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pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 11:04 am
any surprises?

For me it's the Penguins and Islanders, I expect those two to be reversed (at least in the standings).

Latest Athletic power rankings (top 10):

1. Panthers
2. Hurricanes
3. Maple Leafs
4. Capitals
5. Flames
6. Avs
7. Lightning
8. Bruins
9. Oilers
10. Wild

4 of the top 10 from the Atlantic, 6 from the East. I think he stretched to include MIN over NYR or PIT just to keep it from seeming more lopsided.

other notables:
12. Rangers
13. GKs
18. Devils
23. Islanders
29. Habs
31. Senators


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The Sabres are in full tank mode  
Jay on the Island : 12/2/2021 6:00 pm : link
so they should be taking chances on players like Malcolm Subban in hopes that they strike it rich with a late bloomer.
RE: The Sabres are in full tank mode  
pjcas18 : 12/2/2021 6:47 pm : link
In comment 15477375 Jay on the Island said:
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so they should be taking chances on players like Malcolm Subban in hopes that they strike it rich with a late bloomer.


lol, so sad when I watched BUF spank MTL twice it was obvious BUF was a much better team. or at least they played much better.
Ben Chiarot  
pjcas18 : 12/2/2021 8:03 pm : link
allegedly generating a ton of interest, as many as 10-12 teams have checked in.

If I were the NYR and BOS I'd be on the phone with Gorton.
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pjcas18 : 12/2/2021 8:18 pm : link
JFresh
@JFreshHockey
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3m
Ben Chiarot will almost certainly be traded for a 1st round pick before the trade deadline. #GoHabsGo

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pjcas18 : 12/2/2021 9:30 pm : link
Craig Morgan
@CraigSMorgan
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9h
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman on the Coyotes sale/relocation rumor: "Completely false."
Very disheartening back to back games for the Devs  
Stu11 : 12/2/2021 10:38 pm : link
Game is 5-2, the Wild could easily be winning 8 or 9-2. Just when I thought they were turning the corner a bit with Jack no back they've looked awful the past 2.
" Jack now back"  
Stu11 : 12/2/2021 10:39 pm : link
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RE: Ben Chiarot  
Greg from LI : 12/2/2021 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15477514 pjcas18 said:
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allegedly generating a ton of interest, as many as 10-12 teams have checked in.

If I were the NYR and BOS I'd be on the phone with Gorton.


Seen a whole bunch of speculation that Kravtsov will end up in Montreal with Gorton there now.
RE: RE: Ben Chiarot  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2021 7:52 am : link
In comment 15477707 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 15477514 pjcas18 said:


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allegedly generating a ton of interest, as many as 10-12 teams have checked in.

If I were the NYR and BOS I'd be on the phone with Gorton.



Seen a whole bunch of speculation that Kravtsov will end up in Montreal with Gorton there now.


Makes sense IMO and Kravtsov's juniors teammate Alexander Romanov in MTL now - so maybe some comfort there.

RE: Very disheartening back to back games for the Devs  
Jay on the Island : 12/3/2021 1:02 pm : link
In comment 15477700 Stu11 said:
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Game is 5-2, the Wild could easily be winning 8 or 9-2. Just when I thought they were turning the corner a bit with Jack no back they've looked awful the past 2.

Sure is, Ruff continues to make some boneheaded lineup decisions and once again played Mason Geersten over Kuokkanen and Boqvist. He kept Hughes at wing with Nico and Zacha again after it was a huge failure the game before.

Ty Smith is really struggling and he could use some time in Utica. Let Colton White play in his place for a couple of weeks until he turns it around.

And why the hell hasn't Mark Recchi been fired yet? The pathetic powerplay is now 0-18 in the past 7 games.
Jack Eichel  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2021 7:10 pm : link
back on the ice three weeks after neck surgery.

it's amazing, that's it, 3 weeks and BUF wouldn't allow him to have this surgery. of course he still has a long road back, with rehab, etc. and he's obviously non-contact, but point stands IMO.
Important chart  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2021 7:55 pm : link
injury bug seems to hit everyone at some point, some teams pretty healthy/lucky so far.

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NHLInjuryViz
@NHLInjuryViz
Team injury rank and breakdown by position (CHIP) through 2 December


RE: RE: Very disheartening back to back games for the Devs  
Stu11 : 12/3/2021 8:03 pm : link
In comment 15478123 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 15477700 Stu11 said:


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Game is 5-2, the Wild could easily be winning 8 or 9-2. Just when I thought they were turning the corner a bit with Jack no back they've looked awful the past 2.


Sure is, Ruff continues to make some boneheaded lineup decisions and once again played Mason Geersten over Kuokkanen and Boqvist. He kept Hughes at wing with Nico and Zacha again after it was a huge failure the game before.

Ty Smith is really struggling and he could use some time in Utica. Let Colton White play in his place for a couple of weeks until he turns it around.

And why the hell hasn't Mark Recchi been fired yet? The pathetic powerplay is now 0-18 in the past 7 games.

Jay at least the penalty killing has improved, but yeah the PP is a joke. It's been basically league worst for going on 2 seasons and yet Mark Recchi has the best job security in North America. I agree Hughes on the wing and with Nico is flat out bizarre.
Does this mean join them to play?  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2021 10:27 pm : link
that would be incredible I think.

Justin Emerson
@J15Emerson
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3m
Jack Eichel, who is skating, said he can do everything but take contact right now, according to @Buccigross
. Then @emilymkaplan
said the recovery timeline hasn’t changed, and he’s expected to join the team in Vegas before Christmas
RE: RE: RE: Very disheartening back to back games for the Devs  
Jay on the Island : 12/4/2021 10:25 am : link
In comment 15478506 Stu11 said:
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Jay at least the penalty killing has improved, but yeah the PP is a joke. It's been basically league worst for going on 2 seasons and yet Mark Recchi has the best job security in North America. I agree Hughes on the wing and with Nico is flat out bizarre.

The Devils with their third terrible performance in a row. The goaltending has struggled mightily the past few games. If this continues I would like to see them give a chance to Akira Schmid.

21year old Schmid probably isn't ready but he has been the best goaltender in the AHL this season with an 8-0 record and a 1.24 GAA and .956 save %. The year before Schmid burst onto the prospect list when he was the best goaltender in the USHL.
RE: Jack Eichel  
Jay on the Island : 12/4/2021 10:25 am : link
In comment 15478471 pjcas18 said:
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back on the ice three weeks after neck surgery.

it's amazing, that's it, 3 weeks and BUF wouldn't allow him to have this surgery. of course he still has a long road back, with rehab, etc. and he's obviously non-contact, but point stands IMO.

This is just remarkable and it makes Buffalo look that much worse.
I thought Eichel  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2021 10:43 am : link
would be the equivalent of a deadline acquisition for Vegas, now it seems like he could be on the ice in games before New Years.

that is amazing IMO.
Some interesting jfresh charts  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2021 12:13 pm : link
the first one shows how I disagreed with valiquette (?) about Igor being Vezina leader. Markstrom and Campbell doing a little more right now. Look how bad TOR is scoring goals over expected. Campbell is carrying the Leafs to an extent.

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JFresh
@JFreshHockey
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Team Goaltending Rankings - December 4





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JFresh
@JFreshHockey
Team Finishing - December 4


Ovi  
pjcas18 : 12/5/2021 10:23 am : link
nets his 750th

Kucherov back to the ice

I think TBL may have a cap issue if he returns soon.

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pjcas18 : 12/5/2021 8:37 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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30m
Hearing tonight that Bruce Boudreau will be the next coach of the Vancouver Canucks.
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pjcas18 : 12/5/2021 9:04 pm : link
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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1m
Darren Dreger on TSN just now - “Sources suggesting that Jim Benning as GM may be out, we’re working on final confirmation for that.” #Canucks
So the coach  
pjcas18 : 12/5/2021 9:57 pm : link
and GM take the fall for the locker room mutiny.

I wonder if they clean house.

Some good pieces in VAN if they do.

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pjcas18 : 12/5/2021 10:37 pm : link
Irfaan Gaffar
@irfgaffar
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47m
Believe the changes in Vancouver will include Jim Benning and John Weisbrod out as GM and AGM. Chris Gear likely steps into an interim role. Travis Green and Nolan Baumgartner out on the coaching side. Bruce Boudreau and Scott Walker in on coaching staff.
Islanders  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 7:59 am : link
have lost 11 in a row.

the last three they got points in, so that's a good sign, but no idea what's going on with the NYI.

I wonder if the long road trip to start the season, plus the COVID issues have had more of an impact.

They really need to do away with the loser point  
Anakim : 12/6/2021 8:30 am : link
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Philadelphia just fired Alain Vigneault  
Anakim : 12/6/2021 9:53 am : link
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And Therrien  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 10:22 am : link
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please no, MTL, please no.....
RE: Islanders  
JayBinQueens : 12/6/2021 10:38 am : link
In comment 15483285 pjcas18 said:
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have lost 11 in a row.

the last three they got points in, so that's a good sign, but no idea what's going on with the NYI.

I wonder if the long road trip to start the season, plus the COVID issues have had more of an impact.


They had run out of gas the last 2 games of the trip (Tampa & Florida) and then had a bunch of games w half of an AHL roster. Nelson, Pulock and Czikas are still out, but every team deals with injuries. Problem with the Isles is, they used older vets as a stop gap, and the age is getting expose (Parise, Chara etc) and they can't score to save their lives
Tuukka  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 11:16 am : link
Rask back practicing with the Bruins.

I thought Swayman has been good, not sure about Ullmark, but apparently Rask is the EBUG tonight.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
· 12m
Rask has not signed with the Bruins (yet). He is an EBUG goalie today with Ullmark and a few other players absent for non-Covid illness twitter.com/FlutoShinzawa/…
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pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 2:50 pm : link
Matt Smith
@Snakebite350
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3m
Petry and Armia are doubtful for Tuesday, Toffoli to miss “weeks” with an unspecified injury.

The injury plagued season continues.

#GoHabsGo @HabsUnfiltered
would Rangers fans want DeBrusk...  
BillKo : 12/6/2021 3:43 pm : link
..for Ryan Strome?
RE: Tuukka  
BillKo : 12/6/2021 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15483668 pjcas18 said:
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Rask back practicing with the Bruins.

I thought Swayman has been good, not sure about Ullmark, but apparently Rask is the EBUG tonight.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
· 12m
Rask has not signed with the Bruins (yet). He is an EBUG goalie today with Ullmark and a few other players absent for non-Covid illness twitter.com/FlutoShinzawa/…


I think Sway has played pretty good, except for a few softies he's left in.

Really think the Bruins overplayed it by signing Ullmark. I know they wanted a vet presence and potential #1, but I think 5 years is just too much.

Rask and Swayman would make a nice duo for second half in 2022 but what would they do w/ Ullmark?
RE: would Rangers fans want DeBrusk...  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15484207 BillKo said:
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..for Ryan Strome?


I think the Rangers would need a C if they deal Strome.

Otherwise it bumps Chytil up to 2C, which he's not ideally suited for, and leaves no 3C.

Some other news...  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 5:05 pm : link
Lehner pulls his name out of the Olympics, didn't get specific from what I read but he said it didn't sound like the set up would be good for his mental health.

In other goalie news, Ben Bishop takes next step in return to the ice. Maybe a Stars goalie is what the Rangers should pursue. Khudobin, Holtby, Oettinger and Bishop....none long-term or expensive (relatively speaking).



I'm not a big Strome fan but yeah, that deal doesn't make sense  
Greg from LI : 12/6/2021 5:12 pm : link
They don't have any other centers waiting in the wings to replace Strome.

I'm sure any deals they're looking into will have them trying to build a package around Kravtsov.
This is beautiful  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 7:05 pm : link
between Gainey and Gorton they can try and one-up each other with who got less in their trades of Ryan McDonagh.

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Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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Guillaume reports Bob Gainey will be part of committee to help choose new Habs GM twitter.com/glefrancoislp/…
Holy shit  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 8:11 pm : link
that Makar goal was awesome.

coast to coast on the PP top shelf deke.

I imagine that's what Bobby Orr looked like (since I never saw Orr when he was playing).


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pjcas18 : 12/7/2021 1:20 pm : link
Hockey Hound
@HockeyHoundShow
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Injury Update: #TimeToHunt Aleksander Barkov will make his return from injury tonight against the #StlBlues

Barkov hasn’t played since mid-November
these players are so skilled it's amazing  
pjcas18 : 12/7/2021 8:43 pm : link
Zegras to Milano, holy shit.
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Isles win their first game  
JayBinQueens : 12/7/2021 9:33 pm : link
in over a month.

let's see if they can make some noise the rest of the way
MTL dominated the Lightning  
pjcas18 : 12/7/2021 9:36 pm : link
for 58 minutes, then gave up 2 goals so they didn't even get the loser point.

I'd say it was on purpose to tank for Wright, but we all know tanking doesn't result in the top pick anymore and MTL is so bad it didn't need to be on purpose.
World Juniors  
pjcas18 : 12/8/2021 8:36 am : link
rosters trickling out.

I have read many opinions that Sweden is underwhelming and they shouldn't medal, I know zero players on Sweden (haven't looked at the roster), but I would be surprised. Sweden dominates this tournament.
VAN  
pjcas18 : 12/8/2021 1:35 pm : link
interested in Marc Bergevin as GM.

Sounds like things are going great in Arizona  
Mad Mike : 12/9/2021 12:24 am : link
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The Arizona Department of Revenue have filed a tax lien notice vs the company that owns the Coyotes for more than $1.3M in unpaid state and city taxes. If the Coyotes don't pay by Dec. 20, the team may be locked out of its home arena.

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I see no reason  
pjcas18 : 12/9/2021 8:46 am : link
to have a hockey team in Phoenix without one in Quebec (or Hartford).

As a player I'd probably prefer living in Phoenix to either other city, but from a hockey fan base standpoint it's not really comparable.
Running a tight ship  
Mad Mike : 12/9/2021 11:10 am : link
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Coyotes statement: We have already launched an investigation to determine how this could have happened and initial indications are that it appears to be the result of an unfortunate human error. Regardless, we deeply regret the inconvenience this has caused... We will make sure that by tomorrow morning, the Arizona Coyotes are current on all of our bills and owe no state or local taxes whatsoever. And we will take immediate steps to ensure that nothing like this can ever possibly happen again.

As I saw someone say on twitter, I want to find someone who believes in me as much as Gary Bettman believes in hockey in Arizona.

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pjcas18 : 12/9/2021 1:03 pm : link
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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Things are escalating between veteran NHL executive, Jim Rutherford and the Vancouver Canucks. A deal is expected to get done, although sources won’t confirm if it’s for the presidents role or both president and GM.
MTL  
pjcas18 : 12/9/2021 9:28 pm : link
is in 31st place right now, with 15 points.

but last place Arizona (12 points) has two games in hand on MTL.

I knew it would be bad once the injuries hit, I didn't think this bad.
Chara  
pjcas18 : 12/10/2021 8:22 am : link
put an ass whoopin on Yakov Trenin last night. Couldn't really tell if Trenin's hit was clean or not, but as much as I hate Chara, I am continually amazed at the shape he's in at his age.

I also think Trenin's helmet/mask contributed to the leakage, but it was brutal
This will be terrible  
pjcas18 : 12/10/2021 8:40 am : link
Andrew Peters
@TheInstigator76
· 6m
I’m told the NHL doesn’t want to send its players to the Olympics.

Will be discussed today.

Should get interesting.
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