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pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 11:04 am
any surprises?

For me it's the Penguins and Islanders, I expect those two to be reversed (at least in the standings).

Latest Athletic power rankings (top 10):

1. Panthers
2. Hurricanes
3. Maple Leafs
4. Capitals
5. Flames
6. Avs
7. Lightning
8. Bruins
9. Oilers
10. Wild

4 of the top 10 from the Atlantic, 6 from the East. I think he stretched to include MIN over NYR or PIT just to keep it from seeming more lopsided.

other notables:
12. Rangers
13. GKs
18. Devils
23. Islanders
29. Habs
31. Senators


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RE: This will be terrible  
BrettNYG10 : 12/10/2021 8:44 am : link
In comment 15488979 pjcas18 said:
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Andrew Peters
@TheInstigator76
· 6m
I’m told the NHL doesn’t want to send its players to the Olympics.

Will be discussed today.

Should get interesting.


COVID concerns or because China sucks?
RE: RE: This will be terrible  
pjcas18 : 12/10/2021 8:51 am : link
In comment 15488980 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 15488979 pjcas18 said:


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Andrew Peters
@TheInstigator76
· 6m
I’m told the NHL doesn’t want to send its players to the Olympics.

Will be discussed today.

Should get interesting.



COVID concerns or because China sucks?


Not sure, probably COVID. I read that there is a threshold of canceled games, where if the NHL reaches it then they would rescind players going to the Olympics.

Not sure what the threshold is.
RE: RE: RE: This will be terrible  
NYerInMA : 12/10/2021 10:20 am : link
In comment 15488983 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15488979 pjcas18 said:


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Andrew Peters
@TheInstigator76
· 6m
I’m told the NHL doesn’t want to send its players to the Olympics.

Will be discussed today.

Should get interesting.



COVID concerns or because China sucks?



Not sure, probably COVID. I read that there is a threshold of canceled games, where if the NHL reaches it then they would rescind players going to the Olympics.

Not sure what the threshold is.


I was reading that if a player tests positive, even if they are fully vaccinated and boosted, they must quarantine in China for 3 (!) weeks, so it's possible that they would miss NHL games after the Olympics if they are stuck in China quarantining. I wouldn't want to go either, honestly.
Read it here  
NYerInMA : 12/10/2021 10:24 am : link
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What we're hearing about the NHL, COVID-19 and the Olympics - ( New Window )
Nice!  
Jay on the Island : 12/10/2021 11:17 am : link
The Devils have recalled goaltender Akira Schmid from Uitca of the American Hockey League Friday morning. He will join the Devils for their morning skate ahead of facing the Nashville Predators.
RE: Read it here  
BrettNYG10 : 12/10/2021 11:28 am : link
In comment 15489100 NYerInMA said:
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. What we're hearing about the NHL, COVID-19 and the Olympics - ( New Window )


Thanks.

The Olympics shouldn't be in China anyway. Thanks a lot Nixon.
RE: Nice!  
Stu11 : 12/10/2021 11:59 am : link
In comment 15489153 Jay on the Island said:
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The Devils have recalled goaltender Akira Schmid from Uitca of the American Hockey League Friday morning. He will join the Devils for their morning skate ahead of facing the Nashville Predators.

Interesting. Yeah just saw Bernier to IR with a hip. Sounds like it's been bothering him all year. Could be long term
An the Devs have no luck signing these back up vet goalies. Hopefully one of the kids- Schmid or Dawes will fill the spot adequately. You could see Bernier wasn't himself the last few starts
RE: RE: Nice!  
Jay on the Island : 12/10/2021 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15489204 Stu11 said:
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In comment 15489153 Jay on the Island said:


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The Devils have recalled goaltender Akira Schmid from Uitca of the American Hockey League Friday morning. He will join the Devils for their morning skate ahead of facing the Nashville Predators.


Interesting. Yeah just saw Bernier to IR with a hip. Sounds like it's been bothering him all year. Could be long term
An the Devs have no luck signing these back up vet goalies. Hopefully one of the kids- Schmid or Dawes will fill the spot adequately. You could see Bernier wasn't himself the last few starts

When I heard that it was his hip I immediately thought of Cory Schneider. Hopefully it’s not as severe as that. I am excited to see Amira Schmid play. He’s been the best goaltender in the AHL this season. I actually have tickets to the Islanders Devils game tomorrow so I hope I get to see his NHL debut.
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pjcas18 : 12/10/2021 2:15 pm : link
John Shannon
@JShannonhl
·
3m
Hearing there are a few more changes occurring today in hockey ops with the Canucks.
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pjcas18 : 12/10/2021 2:22 pm : link
Hockey Hound
@HockeyHoundShow
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2m
Breaking News: The #Canucks have relieved Executive Director of Hockey Ops. Jonathan Wall and AGM Chris Gear from their positions.

-Per @ThomasDrance
Bettman  
pjcas18 : 12/11/2021 9:47 am : link
says Olympic decision is primarily up to the players.

Just based on player commentary in the past I'd expect an overwhelmingly positive response (meaning the players by and large opt to play)
Tyler Toffoli out 8 weeks  
pjcas18 : 12/11/2021 7:31 pm : link
MTL injury list could win some games.

Price
Weber
Petry
Edmunson
Anderson
Toffoli
Byron

that's over $40M on IR.
Pretty likeable  
JayBinQueens : 12/11/2021 10:09 pm : link
Devils team.

We should all have the job security of Mark Rechi  
Stu11 : 12/11/2021 10:24 pm : link
The Devil's pp was embarrassing a month ago. At this point it's a blight against humanity. -1 again tonight. Kind of depressing at this point. The Devils just have too much young talent to be scoring 2 goals a night.
RE: We should all have the job security of Mark Rechi  
JayBinQueens : 12/12/2021 1:53 am : link
In comment 15490474 Stu11 said:
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The Devil's pp was embarrassing a month ago. At this point it's a blight against humanity. -1 again tonight. Kind of depressing at this point. The Devils just have too much young talent to be scoring 2 goals a night.


To be fair, you were missing hischier, Graves and a goalie, yet made it mostly a game. You guys have pieces to look forward to
RE: We should all have the job security of Mark Rechi  
Jay on the Island : 12/12/2021 10:15 am : link
In comment 15490474 Stu11 said:
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The Devil's pp was embarrassing a month ago. At this point it's a blight against humanity. -1 again tonight. Kind of depressing at this point. The Devils just have too much young talent to be scoring 2 goals a night.

I was at the game last night. The power play is even more embarrassing in person. I can’t believe Recchi still has a job, it blows my mind.

Geersten continuing to play is further indication that Ruff should not be a HC in todays NHL. This isn’t the 90’s or early 2000’s anymore.
Ben Bishop  
pjcas18 : 12/12/2021 10:18 am : link
career over, cannot come back from the knee injury.

I thought TBL was nuts letting him go for Vasilevskiy, but obviously that was the right move, but I still expected Bishop to be great, but he never really was after TBL and now he's retiring at 35.
A couple of more things  
Jay on the Island : 12/12/2021 10:21 am : link
I don’t know what is going on with Ty Smith. He looks like a completely different player from last season. He needs time in the AHL I think. The Devils should promote Colton White, Reilly Walsh, or Nikita Okhotiuk to replace him.

Secondly I was very excited to see Schmid but I don’t think he’s ready for the NHL. The devils season is like over now with Nico and Graves on the COVID list so they can afford to keep Schmid in the NHL.

As for Schmid, I hope that I am wrong but I don’t think that he will ever be a full time starter in the NHL. He has great size but he lacks the quickness and athleticism that Blackwood and Nico Daws have.
apparently Kaiden Guhle  
pjcas18 : 12/12/2021 11:39 am : link
is developing better than predicted and he's one of the favorites to be Canada captain or at least alternate at WJC. Habs could use some good news/luck.

Sportsnet
@Sportsnet
· 1h
“You don’t find guys who are six-two, six-three and 200 pounds who can move like the wind.”

A key piece of Canada’s world junior roster, quick yet steady defenseman Kaiden Guhle is blazing a path to the Canadiens lineup.
Canada announces  
pjcas18 : 12/12/2021 10:45 pm : link
their roster for the WJC, which begins next week.

Holy stacked (as usual), they could probably have two teams.

highlights:
Owen Power (#1 pick in 2021)
Shane Wright (presumptive #1 pick in 2022)
Mason MacTavish (3rd overall in 2021)
Cole Perfetti (10th pick in 2020)
Dylan Guenther (9th pick in 2021)
Will Cuylle (NYR 2nd round pick in 2020)
Kaiden Guhle (MTL 16th pick in 2020)

link - ( New Window )
RE: A couple of more things  
Stu11 : 12/13/2021 12:32 am : link
In comment 15490613 Jay on the Island said:
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I don’t know what is going on with Ty Smith. He looks like a completely different player from last season. He needs time in the AHL I think. The Devils should promote Colton White, Reilly Walsh, or Nikita Okhotiuk to replace him.

Secondly I was very excited to see Schmid but I don’t think he’s ready for the NHL. The devils season is like over now with Nico and Graves on the COVID list so they can afford to keep Schmid in the NHL.

As for Schmid, I hope that I am wrong but I don’t think that he will ever be a full time starter in the NHL. He has great size but he lacks the quickness and athleticism that Blackwood and Nico Daws have.

Yeah his debut was kind of meh. The 2nd goal was inexcusable. An Andry Green un-screened snap shot really? I saw on Twitter that the Devs are in talks with Bratt on an extension in the Nikolaj Ehlers range of like 6 yrs at 6 per. Not sure how I feel about it. I do like Bratt, and he is starting to finish this season, I just think we should be careful to throw that kind of term and $ around. Jack is one thing, but between Jack, Nico and Bratt that's a ton of $ for 3 players. None that of the kids in goal have proven what Blackwood has in net yet, and he needs to be paid soon as well.
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pjcas18 : 12/13/2021 9:47 am : link
Mark Scheig
@markscheig
·
1m
Breaking: Calgary Flames games are postponed through at least 12/16 due to six players and on staff entering Covid protocol.
RE: Tyler Toffoli out 8 weeks  
5BowlsSoon : 12/13/2021 9:54 am : link
In comment 15490396 pjcas18 said:
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MTL injury list could win some games.

Price
Weber
Petry
Edmunson
Anderson
Toffoli
Byron

that's over $40M on IR.


Looks as big as our NY giants list….not a good year for you, pj….sorry….
...  
BrettNYG10 : 12/13/2021 9:56 am : link
Bruce Boudreau going 4-0 with the Canucks is hilarious. I've always thought he was a good coach.

Seeing Bishop's name reminds me of how a broken Bishop shutout the Rangers twice in three games in the ECF. Painful. Feel bad his career ended this way.
RE: RE: Tyler Toffoli out 8 weeks  
pjcas18 : 12/13/2021 9:57 am : link
In comment 15493552 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 15490396 pjcas18 said:


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MTL injury list could win some games.

Price
Weber
Petry
Edmunson
Anderson
Toffoli
Byron

that's over $40M on IR.



Looks as big as our NY giants list….not a good year for you, pj….sorry….


Pity from a Leafs fans is about as low as it could get for a Habs fan. I reject your pity.

I would prefer if you just pointed at the habs and laughed.
RE: RE: RE: Tyler Toffoli out 8 weeks  
5BowlsSoon : 12/13/2021 10:12 am : link
In comment 15493564 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15490396 pjcas18 said:


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MTL injury list could win some games.

Price
Weber
Petry
Edmunson
Anderson
Toffoli
Byron

that's over $40M on IR.



Looks as big as our NY giants list….not a good year for you, pj….sorry….



Pity from a Leafs fans is about as low as it could get for a Habs fan. I reject your pity.

I would prefer if you just pointed at the habs and laughed.


I can’t laugh at misfortune due to injury…...I don’t hate Habs, in fact if you recall, I told you I was pulling for your boys to go all the way last year after you beat my boys because I wanted to see the Cup in Canada…..I hate seeing that (injuries) for most teams (but not all)…and of course I especially hate seeing injuries for my team, which it is for NY Giants.
RE: RE: A couple of more things  
Jay on the Island : 12/13/2021 11:38 am : link
In comment 15493307 Stu11 said:
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Yeah his debut was kind of meh. The 2nd goal was inexcusable. An Andry Green un-screened snap shot really? I saw on Twitter that the Devs are in talks with Bratt on an extension in the Nikolaj Ehlers range of like 6 yrs at 6 per. Not sure how I feel about it. I do like Bratt, and he is starting to finish this season, I just think we should be careful to throw that kind of term and $ around. Jack is one thing, but between Jack, Nico and Bratt that's a ton of $ for 3 players. None that of the kids in goal have proven what Blackwood has in net yet, and he needs to be paid soon as well.

I understand your concern but if Bratt keeps playing like this he’s worth 6x6. The Devils do have a lot of cap room tied to Nico, Hughes, and Hamilton but Subban is coming off the books after this season plus Bernier will be off next year which is over $13 million in cap room.

The contract I am most concerned about is Miles Wood. He’s a restricted free agent and the Devils need to be careful not to pay a 4th line player $3-4 million per season. That’s how they will get in trouble with the cap. Fill the 4th line with prospects or Vesey types for the league minimum.
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JayBinQueens : 12/13/2021 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15493541 pjcas18 said:
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Mark Scheig
@markscheig
·
1m
Breaking: Calgary Flames games are postponed through at least 12/16 due to six players and on staff entering Covid protocol.


Bullshit that there is no actual rule and the NHL is spinning the wheel when deciding how soon to shut a team down. SJ, Ottawa and Isles owners probably furious w league
Backstrom  
pjcas18 : 12/13/2021 7:21 pm : link
close to making his season debut (this week). Lavy doing an incredible job with WAS, like Sully with PIT. I underestimated both.

More bad news for NJ  
Jay on the Island : 12/13/2021 8:44 pm : link
Ruff admitted that he is concerned about Bernier's long term health due to the hip injury.

It looks like the Devils will be looking for another veteran backup this offseason.

It would be very nice if either Schmid or Daws earned that job to save some cap space.
I feel like the players  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 10:12 am : link
are going to bail on the Olympics.

I'm not sure a 6 week quarantine in China for a positive test is a risk I would take if I were them.

Khudobin placed on waivers. I know some Rangers fans (Anakim) were suggesting a Stars goalie trade.

Laine back skating, could return soon.
Thomas Bordeleau  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 11:29 am : link
left off USA WJC roster due to a positive COVID test.

Tough luck for Bordeleau because he was left off last year (very late) due to being John Beecher's roommate and deemed a close contact when Beecher tested positive (falsely).

He would be a top 2 or 3 best player for USA.
Flames  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 1:09 pm : link
COVID issues now spreading to other teams, Bruins lose Marchand and Smith.
Flames have infected  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 1:14 pm : link
Hurricanes, Bruins and Canucks (via Hurricanes).

this could snowball
....  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2021 1:46 pm : link
So the Rangers game tonight is not on MSG. I didn't realize they had an exclusive arrangement with ESPN+/Hulu.

I'm too much of a Boomer to bother.
Shesterkin  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 2:07 pm : link
back at practice
RE: ....  
Stu11 : 12/14/2021 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15495553 BrettNYG10 said:
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So the Rangers game tonight is not on MSG. I didn't realize they had an exclusive arrangement with ESPN+/Hulu.

I'm too much of a Boomer to bother.

It's horrific. The Devils have had 6 games in the last month exclusively on ESPN+. The broadcast is like a bad college broadcast. I have a smart tv but LG doesn't let you download the app. I stream it from my tablet onto Chromecast and the stream is awful. Buffers constantly. If I do it through my kid's ps5 it's a little better. Pray you don't get Leah Hextall on pbp. She's awful. It really is a disgrace that they pulled this shit with the national package.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15495553 BrettNYG10 said:
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So the Rangers game tonight is not on MSG. I didn't realize they had an exclusive arrangement with ESPN+/Hulu.

I'm too much of a Boomer to bother.


Is it on Center Ice? I can provide real time updates, lol.

Habs are on at 7, so maybe only a slight overlap
....  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2021 2:16 pm : link
My dad (in Florida) says it's not.

I actually have Hulu but I won't be home. So any summary would be helpful lol.

Agreed with what Stu said, it's such bullshit.
I don't have cable, so I stream every game  
Greg from LI : 12/14/2021 3:23 pm : link
nhlbite.com.....best one linked on there is Weak Spell. You always get a choice of the home or road broadcasts, so I never have to listen to someone else's homer announcers.
COVID hits  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 3:26 pm : link
the Preds, wonder if the Rangers are next.

I think it's just a matter of days before the NHLPA pulls out of the Olympics.
RE: COVID hits  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2021 3:29 pm : link
In comment 15495748 pjcas18 said:
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the Preds, wonder if the Rangers are next.

I think it's just a matter of days before the NHLPA pulls out of the Olympics.


Wouldn't be shocked if they suspend games league wide.
RE: I don't have cable, so I stream every game  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2021 3:29 pm : link
In comment 15495740 Greg from LI said:
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nhlbite.com.....best one linked on there is Weak Spell. You always get a choice of the home or road broadcasts, so I never have to listen to someone else's homer announcers.


Thanks.
It's not perfect but it works pretty well  
Greg from LI : 12/14/2021 3:33 pm : link
Usually it will lock up once or twice a game. I just refresh when that happens. It's usually only a minute or two behind the live broadcast.
I feel like a shut down is coming  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 5:39 pm : link
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
·
18m
Hearing that the doctors from the NHL and NHLPA are having a call tonight to discuss the latest Covid happenings and I presume to recommend next steps.
@TSNHockey
@TheAthletic


Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
·
3h
We've seen 23 players added to the NHL's Covid Protocol list inside the last 36 hours.
I'm two hours ahead of you pj.  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2021 5:55 pm : link
Shutdown and league dodging the Olympics seems likely.
Well at least we should get  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 5:57 pm : link
a WJC.

Though for some reason Russia cut all the Russian CHL players. I mean they're already in Canada, and some are the best Russia has to offer, I wonder if that was some sort of message to stay in Russia.
Also notable  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 6:23 pm : link
for Russia is every skater is a left handed shot.

WTF?
These are the Habs  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2021 7:01 pm : link
lines and i like Suzuki, but holy shit, I don't remember a worse lineup top to bottom.

Arpon Basu
@ArponBasu
Canadiens lines in warmups:

Perreault-Suzuki-Hoffman
Drouin-Dauphin-Ylönen
Lehkonen-Poehling-Caufield
Pezzetta-Paquette-Armia

Chiarot-Savard
Romanov-Petry
Kulak-Clague

Allen
Montembeault
Amazon Firestick  
Rob in Rockaway : 12/14/2021 7:50 pm : link
works really well for streaming ESPN+ as well as many other services. Lots of content too if you are a Prime member.
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