Andy Martino
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Sources: Mets have offered Scherzer more than $40 million per year. Length unknown. Doesn’t mean he’ll sign there; that’s still unclear.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
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Growing indications that Scherzer is headed to Mets, sources tell @TheAthletic. NYM “making progress,” per @Joelsherman1.
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
Growing indications that Scherzer is headed to Mets, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. NYM “making progress,” per
@JoelSherman1
.
Andy Martino @martinonyc
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Growing industry expectation Scherzer goes to Mets. Other teams falling out of bidding, per sources. Not done deal.
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Adam Rubin @AdamRubinMedia
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I honestly think this could be the start of a pipeline of Scott Boras clients to the Mets in future years, like there seemed to be at one point with the Nationals. Deep-pocketed, relatively new owner. Makes sense to me.
Kumar Rocker out there somewhere listening to my chemical romance on repeat.
Doug Rush
@TheDougRush
UPDATE: The belief around MLB right now is that Max Scherzer is signing with the Mets. It’s a matter of for how many years. 3 hours ago, it was at 2. Then it went to 3. A fourth year might end this and signs the deal.
Is crazy to think about. Especially since anyone over the age of 1 knows what it's like to be a Mets fan and know you never, ever, ever had a chance at a player like this in free agency.
Times have changed.
assuming this goes through they need to next focus on finding youth
with whatever value hunting they do the rest of the way. I think the 3 every day guys they got were solid values and have no crazy risk factors, but a team that faded down the stretch is adding 3 guys getting close to their "mid 30s".
Would love to see them try to find a few gambles like Nick Senzel or other similarly talented guys who haven't figured it out yet.
McNeil, Davis, and Dom for pennies on the dollar IMO. Hope we keep them around.
agreed. anyone is tradeable if the return is good enough but no reason to give up on any of them unless there's someone they think is a real find.
I'd prefer to try to grab a guy like Senzel from a team looking to save some $ by taking back another contract with him and paying a non-top 15 prospect cost.
prime, free agent. This is a soon to be 38 year old pitcher, at the end of his career, looking at his last big contract.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
He is being signed so the Mets can pitch him and deGrom 4 out of 7 times in a playoff series. Plus Citi is a pitchers park, which will help with any decline.
To be honest I'm not sure what a "decline" would look like for him anyway. He can get people out just fine with his offspeed stuff, so even if there is a velocity dip I don't know how negative it would actually be.
RE: RE: Lol, I’m sorry but let’s not act like this is some massive, in their
prime, free agent. This is a soon to be 38 year old pitcher, at the end of his career, looking at his last big contract.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
And a dime to the Mets now is not important... Its not like with the Wilpons when we had very limited dimes.
im gonna need to call the Dr about this boner not going away 😂
Just read some of Cooper Dash's posts, that will bring you down
Happy to inject a bit of reality into everyone’s wet dream. Talking like we just signed 27 year old Max Scherzer.
we have a money bags owner willing to do it. its not my money and the guys who it is doesnt seem to care how much he throws to him. I'll enjoy deGrom and Scherzer as long as possible, thanks though. mets fans will complain they do t spend and when they do spend. cant win. will you hate being the big spenders everyone hates also?
RE: RE: RE: Lol, I’m sorry but let’s not act like this is some massive, in their
prime, free agent. This is a soon to be 38 year old pitcher, at the end of his career, looking at his last big contract.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
And a dime to the Mets now is not important... Its not like with the Wilpons when we had very limited dimes.
So just to be clear…you are saying that we have an unlimited budget and money is no issue no matter how high the payroll gets? I just want to be clear. Is that correct?
im gonna need to call the Dr about this boner not going away 😂
Just read some of Cooper Dash's posts, that will bring you down
Happy to inject a bit of reality into everyone’s wet dream. Talking like we just signed 27 year old Max Scherzer.
we have a money bags owner willing to do it. its not my money and the guys who it is doesnt seem to care how much he throws to him. I'll enjoy deGrom and Scherzer as long as possible, thanks though. mets fans will complain they do t spend and when they do spend. cant win. will you hate being the big spenders everyone hates also?
It isn’t about spending as much as how much we spend to sign a pitcher that’s 38 years old. Guys like Cohen don’t get were they are by losing money. It’s great that we are spending big on a player, but at some point the bill needs to be paid. We don’t have an unlimited budget…as much as many of you want to believe. If we get Scherzer…I hope we get as much out of him as we can…while we can.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Lol, I’m sorry but let’s not act like this is some massive, in their
prime, free agent. This is a soon to be 38 year old pitcher, at the end of his career, looking at his last big contract.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
And a dime to the Mets now is not important... Its not like with the Wilpons when we had very limited dimes.
So just to be clear…you are saying that we have an unlimited budget and money is no issue no matter how high the payroll gets? I just want to be clear. Is that correct?
You have to understand what's happening...they are going to spend A LOT on free agents while they rebuild the farm, just like Dodgers did. And yeah, they will probably be limited more by roster size than $$ in the near term.
prime, free agent. This is a soon to be 38 year old pitcher, at the end of his career, looking at his last big contract.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
And a dime to the Mets now is not important... Its not like with the Wilpons when we had very limited dimes.
So just to be clear…you are saying that we have an unlimited budget and money is no issue no matter how high the payroll gets? I just want to be clear. Is that correct?
You have to understand what's happening...they are going to spend A LOT on free agents while they rebuild the farm, just like Dodgers did. And yeah, they will probably be limited more by roster size than $$ in the near term.
I'm not ruling out Baez or Stroman here still...
Richest owner in sports man.
From your lips to gods ears. Funny that all that money couldn’t also get them some of those other pitchers too? But we’ll see I guess.
if they get max that should rule out stroman + baez
they should have already ruled out stroman because he is revealing himself to be exactly the type of non-winner they should not want in their clubhouse.
but the fact is they get Scherzer for $40m+ and the payroll is up to $260m and highest in MLB.
I'm not saying stop spending. Far from it. Add depth wherever you can. But don't spend risky money. Add glue guys and worthy gambles. Take on cash for talented young players wherever possible.
This is a gamble on the present. Spend the rest of the money gambling on guys who can possibly contribute and add depth now and maybe have the talent to be more in the future. That's the LAD model.
That if this is a three or four year contract, that the third and fourth year salaries are based on the previous years performance. Incentive based for last year or two.
while we wait to hear officially Stroman is busy beclowning himself
Marc Carig called him out for liking a tweet by someone that used a slur against Anthony Dicomo.
Stro lied and claimed it was photoshopped. Called out Carig for believing a fake image.
And then Carig came in with the KO punch because he took the screenshot himself (so it's not faked), and Stro not only liked it but then put on a show lying about it.
Doug Rush
@TheDougRush
UPDATE: Steve Cohen and Billy Eppler have submitted their offer to Max Scherzer and his agent, Scott Boras, which is likely a 3-year, $126 million deal ($42M). The Mets are awaiting to hear back from Scherzer’s camp.
RE: while we wait to hear officially Stroman is busy beclowning himself
Marc Carig called him out for liking a tweet by someone that used a slur against Anthony Dicomo.
Stro lied and claimed it was photoshopped. Called out Carig for believing a fake image.
And then Carig came in with the KO punch because he took the screenshot himself (so it's not faked), and Stro not only liked it but then put on a show lying about it.
Im really over Stroman. Really hope we can finish this Sherzer deal so he's no longer an option.
Obviously I don't know Stroman personally, but I'm not bothered by his social media...I thin she's a fine 3rd or 4th starter and I love how he competes on the field..However, I understand why a lot of what he does and says would rub people the wrong way and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
2 FA (if Sherzer is 1 of the FA, the other can be a bargain hunt)
JDG/Carrasco/Walker
Hill
Peterson/Megill in AAA. I think Williams may have 1 option left too.
Luchessi and Yamamoto may not be worth 40 man spots depending on their recoveries. Spots are going to get tight.
We are all hoping for the best, but in the interest of planning for the worst what's the best backup plan for $120m?
Rodon, Baez, trade McNeil or Dom for a young pitcher?
it would. but malpractice happens sometimes. Matz and Thor's agents didn't think to let the Mets top their current offers.
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Growing indications that Scherzer is headed to Mets, sources tell @TheAthletic. NYM “making progress,” per @Joelsherman1.
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Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
Growing indications that Scherzer is headed to Mets, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. NYM “making progress,” per
@JoelSherman1
.
now
Growing industry expectation Scherzer goes to Mets. Other teams falling out of bidding, per sources. Not done deal.
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I honestly think this could be the start of a pipeline of Scott Boras clients to the Mets in future years, like there seemed to be at one point with the Nationals. Deep-pocketed, relatively new owner. Makes sense to me.
Kumar Rocker out there somewhere listening to my chemical romance on repeat.
@TheDougRush
UPDATE: The belief around MLB right now is that Max Scherzer is signing with the Mets. It’s a matter of for how many years. 3 hours ago, it was at 2. Then it went to 3. A fourth year might end this and signs the deal.
Jon Morosi
@jonmorosi
Max Scherzer and the #Mets are close to finalizing a multiyear deal, source confirms.
@MLBNetwork
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You think their agents rush to get those deals done right before Mets lose out on Max? That’d be malpractice, wouldn’t it?
One of the Mets or Dogders are going to lose out on scherzer. Why wouldn't they wait to see who, and what they'd offer?
With Seager out there they aren't wasting money on what is for them a back of the rotation starter.
Scherzer proved last year that even for them he's top of rotation but nobody else out there fits that for them.
when Boras is the agent and you are willing to write the biggest check there is always a chance.
Doug Rush
@TheDougRush
UPDATE: Max Scherzer and the Mets are on the verge of finalizing a deal.
Unless any unforeseen things happen, Scherzer is coming to the Mets.
@robertbrender
The Mets are operating like the richest team in baseball. It’s almost hard to believe but it’s real.
Yeah you got it right ..they had to have known Mets were on verge of getting Max..
This is crazy!
With Seager out there they aren't wasting money on what is for them a back of the rotation starter.
Scherzer proved last year that even for them he's top of rotation but nobody else out there fits that for them.
That makes sense. Thanks
Sign Showalter!
Times have changed.
Would love to see them try to find a few gambles like Nick Senzel or other similarly talented guys who haven't figured it out yet.
Joe Pantorno
@JoePantorno
Source on Scherzer to #Mets: “I think it’s done.”
Will need confirmation, however.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
agreed. anyone is tradeable if the return is good enough but no reason to give up on any of them unless there's someone they think is a real find.
I'd prefer to try to grab a guy like Senzel from a team looking to save some $ by taking back another contract with him and paying a non-top 15 prospect cost.
Just read some of Cooper Dash's posts, that will bring you down
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
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im gonna need to call the Dr about this boner not going away 😂
Just read some of Cooper Dash's posts, that will bring you down
Happy to inject a bit of reality into everyone’s wet dream. Talking like we just signed 27 year old Max Scherzer.
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I know everyone wants to know if they can go to bed but the team has not heard Scherzer's decision yet.
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According to two sources, the Mets offer is for about 42 million per year over either 3 or 4 years.
To be honest I'm not sure what a "decline" would look like for him anyway. He can get people out just fine with his offspeed stuff, so even if there is a velocity dip I don't know how negative it would actually be.
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prime, free agent. This is a soon to be 38 year old pitcher, at the end of his career, looking at his last big contract.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
And a dime to the Mets now is not important... Its not like with the Wilpons when we had very limited dimes.
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im gonna need to call the Dr about this boner not going away 😂
Just read some of Cooper Dash's posts, that will bring you down
Happy to inject a bit of reality into everyone’s wet dream. Talking like we just signed 27 year old Max Scherzer.
we have a money bags owner willing to do it. its not my money and the guys who it is doesnt seem to care how much he throws to him. I'll enjoy deGrom and Scherzer as long as possible, thanks though. mets fans will complain they do t spend and when they do spend. cant win. will you hate being the big spenders everyone hates also?
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prime, free agent. This is a soon to be 38 year old pitcher, at the end of his career, looking at his last big contract.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
And a dime to the Mets now is not important... Its not like with the Wilpons when we had very limited dimes.
So just to be clear…you are saying that we have an unlimited budget and money is no issue no matter how high the payroll gets? I just want to be clear. Is that correct?
This isn't your average 37 year old.
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im gonna need to call the Dr about this boner not going away 😂
Just read some of Cooper Dash's posts, that will bring you down
Happy to inject a bit of reality into everyone’s wet dream. Talking like we just signed 27 year old Max Scherzer.
we have a money bags owner willing to do it. its not my money and the guys who it is doesnt seem to care how much he throws to him. I'll enjoy deGrom and Scherzer as long as possible, thanks though. mets fans will complain they do t spend and when they do spend. cant win. will you hate being the big spenders everyone hates also?
It isn’t about spending as much as how much we spend to sign a pitcher that’s 38 years old. Guys like Cohen don’t get were they are by losing money. It’s great that we are spending big on a player, but at some point the bill needs to be paid. We don’t have an unlimited budget…as much as many of you want to believe. If we get Scherzer…I hope we get as much out of him as we can…while we can.
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prime, free agent. This is a soon to be 38 year old pitcher, at the end of his career, looking at his last big contract.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
And a dime to the Mets now is not important... Its not like with the Wilpons when we had very limited dimes.
So just to be clear…you are saying that we have an unlimited budget and money is no issue no matter how high the payroll gets? I just want to be clear. Is that correct?
You have to understand what's happening...they are going to spend A LOT on free agents while they rebuild the farm, just like Dodgers did. And yeah, they will probably be limited more by roster size than $$ in the near term.
I'm not ruling out Baez or Stroman here still...
Richest owner in sports man.
This isn't your average 37 year old.
Sure…he was one of the best pitchers in the history of the game. I can name you a thousand pitchers that fell off a cliff after 30. What’s your point?
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Was pretty damn good in his age 37-40 seasons for the DBacks...go ahead and look that up Cooper.
This isn't your average 37 year old.
Sure…he was one of the best pitchers in the history of the game. I can name you a thousand pitchers that fell off a cliff after 30. What’s your point?
That Max Scherzer is one of the best pitchers in the history of the game...
That was exactly my point
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prime, free agent. This is a soon to be 38 year old pitcher, at the end of his career, looking at his last big contract.
I hope he can replicate what he’s done, but odds are he will decline at some point…and likely on the Mets dime.
Of course he will decline. You are signing him full well knowing that. He was absolutely dominant the 2nd half of last year. You are going all in for a championship in 2022. Nobody's dreaming of building a future team around Sherzer.
And a dime to the Mets now is not important... Its not like with the Wilpons when we had very limited dimes.
So just to be clear…you are saying that we have an unlimited budget and money is no issue no matter how high the payroll gets? I just want to be clear. Is that correct?
You have to understand what's happening...they are going to spend A LOT on free agents while they rebuild the farm, just like Dodgers did. And yeah, they will probably be limited more by roster size than $$ in the near term.
I'm not ruling out Baez or Stroman here still...
Richest owner in sports man.
From your lips to gods ears. Funny that all that money couldn’t also get them some of those other pitchers too? But we’ll see I guess.
but the fact is they get Scherzer for $40m+ and the payroll is up to $260m and highest in MLB.
I'm not saying stop spending. Far from it. Add depth wherever you can. But don't spend risky money. Add glue guys and worthy gambles. Take on cash for talented young players wherever possible.
This is a gamble on the present. Spend the rest of the money gambling on guys who can possibly contribute and add depth now and maybe have the talent to be more in the future. That's the LAD model.
Stro lied and claimed it was photoshopped. Called out Carig for believing a fake image.
And then Carig came in with the KO punch because he took the screenshot himself (so it's not faked), and Stro not only liked it but then put on a show lying about it.
@TheDougRush
UPDATE: Steve Cohen and Billy Eppler have submitted their offer to Max Scherzer and his agent, Scott Boras, which is likely a 3-year, $126 million deal ($42M). The Mets are awaiting to hear back from Scherzer’s camp.
Stro lied and claimed it was photoshopped. Called out Carig for believing a fake image.
And then Carig came in with the KO punch because he took the screenshot himself (so it's not faked), and Stro not only liked it but then put on a show lying about it.
Im really over Stroman. Really hope we can finish this Sherzer deal so he's no longer an option.
Also...
Obviously I don't know Stroman personally, but I'm not bothered by his social media...I thin she's a fine 3rd or 4th starter and I love how he competes on the field..However, I understand why a lot of what he does and says would rub people the wrong way and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.