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Giants defense last 5 games

Breeze_94 : 11/29/2021 12:14 am
allowing 15.2 ppg with 12 takeaways. And this has not been against a bunch of schmucks.

played road games vs Mahomes and Brady, and Carr is a pretty good QB in his own right. That Eagles offense they held to 7 today has scored over 34 ppg over their past 4 (coming into today), and was a top 10 offense in scoring on the year.

They haven't been perfect by any means, but this defense is starting to click under PG just like they did last year down the stretch.

I think a guy like Aidan Hutchinson and a LB like Blake Martinez would make this a very good defense next year.

Hutchinson  
ryanmkeane : 11/29/2021 12:17 am : link
is likely a pipe dream by now. He’s probably a top 3-4 pick. My guess is Giants win between 6-8 games
 
ryanmkeane : 11/29/2021 12:18 am : link
Bears pick is a better option for Hutchinson. Just not sure it’s gonna matter.
RE: …  
Breeze_94 : 11/29/2021 12:24 am : link
In comment 15471629 ryanmkeane said:
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Bears pick is a better option for Hutchinson. Just not sure it’s gonna matter.


Agreed Hutchinson is looking more and more like a pipe dream scenario but there are plenty of good edge rushers in this upcoming class.

Really hoping Bears lose out and Giants are able to get Hutchinson or Neal with that Bear pick, and then grab best OL/EDGE with the next pick.
Top 5 picks  
Giantimistic : 11/29/2021 12:49 am : link
I see Detroit at #1 and I do think they may go QB with Goff not cutting it.

Houston could go QB as well, but may miss having a player like Watt.

Jets could be in the top 5 but will not be taking a QB.

Jacksonville will not need a QB. I think they go online and go with Evan Neal. They need to protect Lawrence.

I think the Bears pick has a good chance at being the 5th pick.
Hutchinson  
Don Said : 11/29/2021 5:01 am : link
I would also love him but his stock is rocketing each week, at this rate I wouldn't be surprised to see him leapfrog Thibodeaux, to go as the first overall pick.
I think the front seven is really bad.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/29/2021 5:49 am : link
They can’t rush the passer or set the edge, and they get gashed up the middle. Shelton is a sled. Tae Crowder tries hard, but he’s overmatched against linemen. Leonard Williams is good, but maybe not $20MM good.

The secondary may actually be underrated. It’s hard to judge coverage when QBs have all day to scan the field.

The turnovers have been a nice windfall, but they are unlikely to continue without a more consistent pass rush.
The biggest problem for the Giant defense is the Giant offense.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/29/2021 6:12 am : link
How many times did the defense win yesterday’s game? Five? Six? The previous wins were similar, though less extreme.

Opponents can be patient against the Giants because the offense doesn’t score. The upcoming opponents are mostly mediocre, but they will know they can wear down the Giant D with time-consuming drives, even if the result is a field goal or just flipping field position. There’s no reason to throw balls up for grabs, like Carr and Hurts did. As bad a game as the Eagle staff called, they still ran over the Giants, and gave the players multiple opportunities to win. The holding call and the fumble may have been bigger than the three INTs and the drops.

So I think that’s the book on the Giants: patience and ball security. Wear them down and run them over in the second half when their tongues are hanging out. You can spot these Giants a 6-3 halftime lead and still have them right where you want them.
If the Giants had one guy  
section125 : 11/29/2021 6:32 am : link
that could get to the QB they would be really hard to beat. Need at least one ER and a really fast tackling machine ILB.
RE: The biggest problem for the Giant defense is the Giant offense.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/29/2021 7:35 am : link
In comment 15471653 Big Blue Blogger said:
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How many times did the defense win yesterday’s game? Five? Six? The previous wins were similar, though less extreme.

Opponents can be patient against the Giants because the offense doesn’t score. The upcoming opponents are mostly mediocre, but they will know they can wear down the Giant D with time-consuming drives, even if the result is a field goal or just flipping field position. There’s no reason to throw balls up for grabs, like Carr and Hurts did. As bad a game as the Eagle staff called, they still ran over the Giants, and gave the players multiple opportunities to win. The holding call and the fumble may have been bigger than the three INTs and the drops.

So I think that’s the book on the Giants: patience and ball security. Wear them down and run them over in the second half when their tongues are hanging out. You can spot these Giants a 6-3 halftime lead and still have them right where you want them.


Overall, I agree. But yesterday the offense and defense finally played complementary football. The offense seemed to have a lot more sustained drives than normal. The time of possession in the first half was basically even. And when you consider that our D gives up long drives then I think that speaks volumes for how our offense improved. Don't get me wrong, the offense is still sub par. They can't score TDs. But the long drives helped our defense get rest and gain field position. It isn't something I want to strive for with this offense long term. We need way more. But the offense helped us win yesterday.
Point taken, Robbie. I just think you're setting the bar too low.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/29/2021 9:24 am : link
A winning offense scores a touchdown on the last FG drive, and/or ends the game with a first down in the final 1:15. They did neither. Did they do the bare minimum? Sure, but they kept putting the defense in a position to lose.
RE: Point taken, Robbie. I just think you're setting the bar too low.  
Thunderstruck27 : 11/29/2021 9:33 am : link
In comment 15471832 Big Blue Blogger said:
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A winning offense scores a touchdown on the last FG drive, and/or ends the game with a first down in the final 1:15. They did neither. Did they do the bare minimum? Sure, but they kept putting the defense in a position to lose.


I know we don't want to settle for FGs, but the missed one yesterday should be taken into account.
It’s a shame  
Les in TO : 11/29/2021 9:59 am : link
They were awol at the start of the season when the team dug a big hole
With J.G.s firing Graham saw the handwriting on the wall.  
TLong : 11/29/2021 12:18 pm : link
He charged up his troops and they played better.
Not great, but better.
Now we need a NY Giants Tackling School.
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