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The Giants should mimic the Canadiens approach

snickers : 11/29/2021 9:10 am
As we all lament the missteps in the front office and the hopeful departure of DG, my hockey team the Montreal Canadiens clean swept the front office. Mellanby the assistant GM resigned Saturday, and yesterday the GM, head of scouting and his assistants were all relieved of their duty. This comes 4 months after a Stanley cup final and in face of a losing season presently. It is a bold move but necessary and not unlike what must occur with our Giants. As they perused the potential replacements last evening, comments about the downright misses in drafting by Bergevin and his assistants was downright frustrating to listen to. Reminds me so much of all our misses in our recent drafts. New voices and new blood were required.
There are differences for sure in the make up of a hockey franchise when compared to a football team, but the fact remains that a new vision is required. Both franchises are stale and one for now has taken the bold step in an attempt to improve its team. Let us hope for a clear vision from our cadres with a similar outlook for the future. BTW Jeff Gorton formerly of the Rangers is the new executive director of hockey operations.
They can't get their footing in solid ground  
j_rud : 11/29/2021 9:23 am : link
and you wanna put them on ice?
Here is the problem  
Jay on the Island : 11/29/2021 9:53 am : link
I am convinced that if the Giants name Abrams the interim general manager they will keep him in that roll after they do another small round of interviews.
Hire only French  
Scott in Montreal : 11/29/2021 9:56 am : link
speaking people whether they are the best person for the job or not?

Allow the Government dictate who you can put in what management position?

Seems to have worked well for the Habs the last 30 years, so why not?
RE: Hire only French  
pjcas18 : 11/29/2021 9:58 am : link
In comment 15471897 Scott in Montreal said:
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speaking people whether they are the best person for the job or not?

Allow the Government dictate who you can put in what management position?

Seems to have worked well for the Habs the last 30 years, so why not?


Gorton is American, how did he get through the media and government?
I'm a B's fan  
Scooter185 : 11/29/2021 10:01 am : link
So obviously I keep up to date on my most hated rivals 😂

MBs been in the fans crosshairs for awhile, although I suppose that SCF appearance eased that a bit.

While it hurt to see you guys in the SCF last year, it was amusing that the run all started after firing CJ. Now don't get me wrong, as he helped bring the SC to Boston in 2011, but the game certainly seemed to have passed him by in his last couple of years here, and firing him very much needed to happen.
Wow  
ScottinMA : 11/29/2021 10:12 am : link
Another Canadiens and Giants fan. Thought I might be the only one. Here is Massachusetts they hate the Giants and Habs. We will see what happens with Montreal. They are still paying Julien from what I understand. Can’t seem to fire coach. If so, they would be paying 3 coaches
While very different sports, I understand the notion  
Matt M. : 11/29/2021 10:33 am : link
I agree. First of all, I think Gettleman retiring may end up as a cop out to ownership. They really needed to have the balls to fire him for a variety of reasons. But, him being gone is a positive, in my opinion.

That said, it really needed to happen on the team's time table, not his. He needs to be completely removed from the organization already, so his retirement better begin the day after the season ends. My biggest fear is they just promote Abrams, even if on an interim basis. I think they have rotted from the top down and thus need to completely clean house. This would include Abrams, unless he is retained for only cap purposes, and should also include a good portion of the scouts and personnel departments. Look no further than OL. We have swung and missed so many times, not just in the draft, but FA as well. This is with a lot of the same guys on hand for years. This tells me our front office has no ability to judge either college or NFL OL. The same can be said for LB. We need a completely fresh start.
following up  
snickers : 11/29/2021 11:29 am : link
My point is that only a full house cleaning and a paradigm shift in thinking will work for some organizations such as the Giants. Montreal will go down this road with a fresh look at itself. Good or bad remains to be seen but Giants need to do something similar.
RE: RE: Hire only French  
Scott in Montreal : 11/29/2021 12:13 pm : link
In comment 15471901 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15471897 Scott in Montreal said:


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speaking people whether they are the best person for the job or not?

Allow the Government dictate who you can put in what management position?

Seems to have worked well for the Habs the last 30 years, so why not?



Gorton is American, how did he get through the media and government?


They put him in an upper level position (executive vice president of hockey operations). That does not have to deal with the press. Government deals with the owner (Molson) and the press deals with the GM and head coach.

Molson has already said that the new GM that Gorton will choose must be fully bi-lingual in French.
Another Montreal/Giants fan  
skifaster : 11/29/2021 4:24 pm : link
Was nice having both teams get a W last weekend. I think NYG would benefit from a wholesale replacement of the scouting and upper management. They have not been valuing the trench guys properly for the draft for at least a decade. They caught lightning in a bottle with Kareem McKenzie and have been trying to repeat it ever since. Teams other than the Jets don't let quality offensive linemen walk via free agency.

Still like Judge as head coach and until the offensive line is fixed there is no point in drafting skill players for the offense.
And.they have not won the cup in almost 30 years  
SteelGiant : 11/29/2021 6:06 pm : link
So not sure they are the group to model after.
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