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Mike Florio's comments on Giants win on Strahan's day

jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 11/29/2021 11:31 am
He commented that they had lost when Lawrence Taylor's number was retired. They lost when Phil Simm's number was retired. And they lost this year when Eli Manning's number was retired. He said that made them 1-3 on number retirement games.

He further went on to say that the record should stay at 1-3 for a long time as there was no one on the team presently who would qualify to have their number retired. But he did not stop there. He said the next Giant to have a number retired might not be in college now, or in high school now, or even be born yet.

He also added that John Mara was wise not to speak yesterday.
Did I miss the  
Dnew15 : 11/29/2021 11:38 am : link
reason for why it took the Giants so long to retire Strahan's number?
I'm surprised he even showed his face, but clearly punted on speaking  
regulator : 11/29/2021 11:41 am : link
it looked like he was in disguise, too. Giants baseball hat, Giants coat over his suit, etc. Not immediately recognizable.
Mara was definitely there  
Fast Eddie : 11/29/2021 11:51 am : link
When he left the field I could see the telltale trail that most spineless shell-less terrestrial gastropod mollusks always leave
RE: Did I miss the  
Route 9 : 11/29/2021 12:02 pm : link
In comment 15472144 Dnew15 said:
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reason for why it took the Giants so long to retire Strahan's number?


Do you really expect this organization to do anything competent?
Why care  
cokeduplt : 11/29/2021 12:15 pm : link
What Florio says?
So he makes this point  
UberAlias : 11/29/2021 12:16 pm : link
On the day they win?
RE: Did I miss the  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/29/2021 12:18 pm : link
In comment 15472144 Dnew15 said:
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reason for why it took the Giants so long to retire Strahan's number?


They like to sell these special dates to maximize ticket sales.
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Pork Chop : 11/29/2021 12:31 pm : link
In comment 15472324 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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reason for why it took the Giants so long to retire Strahan's number?



They like to sell these special dates to maximize ticket sales.


Don't know if you're joking or not. The games all sell out already, don't they?
RE: So he makes this point  
ZogZerg : 11/29/2021 12:53 pm : link
In comment 15472317 UberAlias said:
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On the day they win?


To be fair. He had the 0-4 Narrative all worked out and had to change last minute.
I get the tickets sales thing and all...  
Dnew15 : 11/29/2021 12:57 pm : link
BUT

Strahan retire from the NYG after the season in 2007

Gets elected into the NFL HOF in 2014

THe Giants retire his number in 2021.

ELI on the other hand, retires after the season in 2019 and they retire his number in 2021?

WTF is that?

Did they forget?

There must be a reason...
I think part of the delay  
Enzo : 11/29/2021 1:01 pm : link
is that Strahan does the Fox show every Sunday and most days they film it in Los Angeles so maybe it was simply a scheduling thing in part? Or maybe they just wanted to do Eli first?

But yeah, he's been retired for a long time.
the one thing in this league  
Enzo : 11/29/2021 1:01 pm : link
you can always count on is Florio being a miserable prick.
RE: I get the tickets sales thing and all...  
BlackLight : 11/29/2021 1:55 pm : link
In comment 15472496 Dnew15 said:
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BUT

Strahan retire from the NYG after the season in 2007

Gets elected into the NFL HOF in 2014

THe Giants retire his number in 2021.

ELI on the other hand, retires after the season in 2019 and they retire his number in 2021?

WTF is that?

Did they forget?

There must be a reason...


My only theory is that they honestly never planned to retire any more numbers. Teams have largely moved away from the whole idea, since they only have so many to go around.

But then Eli retired, and he's the best QB the team's ever had, so they had to retire his number. And once you make that decision, it opens the discussion up for guys like Strahan - who, strictly on merit, absolutely deserves the honor.
RE: RE: I get the tickets sales thing and all...  
regulator : 11/29/2021 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15472689 BlackLight said:
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BUT

Strahan retire from the NYG after the season in 2007

Gets elected into the NFL HOF in 2014

THe Giants retire his number in 2021.

ELI on the other hand, retires after the season in 2019 and they retire his number in 2021?

WTF is that?

Did they forget?

There must be a reason...



My only theory is that they honestly never planned to retire any more numbers. Teams have largely moved away from the whole idea, since they only have so many to go around.

But then Eli retired, and he's the best QB the team's ever had, so they had to retire his number. And once you make that decision, it opens the discussion up for guys like Strahan - who, strictly on merit, absolutely deserves the honor.


Bingo. Every time prior to this, when retiring 92 was raised, the response was something to the effect of, “we are going to run out of numbers.” I think that was part of the reason they started the Ring of Honor.

Now that the NFL is much more liberal in allowing players to wear single digit and non-traditional numbers for various positions, it’s easier to make the case for retiring 10 and 92. With that said, I suspect these are the last two numbers the franchise ever retires. As Florio correctly points out, nobody worthy of this distinction is coming down the pike any time soon.
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joeinpa : 11/29/2021 3:05 pm : link
In comment 15472246 Route 9 said:
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reason for why it took the Giants so long to retire Strahan's number?



Do you really expect this organization to do anything competent?


If you look at the history of the Giants retiring numbers, Gifford, Simms, Taylor, there was a considerable wait for them as well, Eli was the exception not the rule.
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mikeinbloomfield : 11/29/2021 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15472386 Pork Chop said:
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reason for why it took the Giants so long to retire Strahan's number?



They like to sell these special dates to maximize ticket sales.



Don't know if you're joking or not. The games all sell out already, don't they?


No, they don't. I just got an email for special season-ticket holder pricing on tickets for the remaining games. The old stadium was 100% season tickets. I don't think this one is.
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mikeinbloomfield : 11/29/2021 3:28 pm : link
In comment 15472852 joeinpa said:
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reason for why it took the Giants so long to retire Strahan's number?



Do you really expect this organization to do anything competent?



If you look at the history of the Giants retiring numbers, Gifford, Simms, Taylor, there was a considerable wait for them as well, Eli was the exception not the rule.


Not sure this is true. They retired Simms' number two years after he was cut. They retired Taylor's the year after he retired. In addition, Simms left the team on bad terms.

But for Strahan they waited 14 years. He pissed someone off, would be my guess.
For one thing, I thought they weren't going to retire any more numbers  
Greg from LI : 11/29/2021 4:40 pm : link
after the whole Ring of Honor thing.

For another, I'm sure this will piss a lot of people off but I'm not sure why Michael Strahan gets his number retired but Harry Carson didn't.
Greg.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 4:44 pm : link
Both 92 & 53 should be retired.
I agree  
Greg from LI : 11/29/2021 4:47 pm : link
I don't know why the organization doesn't.
Greg...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 4:49 pm : link
Also same organization that doesn't have Leonard Marshall in ROH.
yeah, I started a thread on that subject a while back  
Greg from LI : 11/29/2021 4:50 pm : link
That's an even easier call than retiring 53. Makes absolutely no sense at all.
I would think retire 53  
Matt M. : 11/29/2021 4:51 pm : link
and then call it a day; no more #s retired.

There is no excuse for Leonard Marshall still not being in the Ringo of Honor other than pettiness on part of ownership.
Just speculating  
JohnF : 11/29/2021 5:53 pm : link
but the difference between Strahan and the other guys could be that MS had some really nasty contract negotiations with the Front Office (back then, BBI was calling him $trahan). I could see some long memories there that didn't mind making Michael wait for his number to be retired.
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Route 9 : 11/29/2021 5:54 pm : link
In comment 15472852 joeinpa said:
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If you look at the history of the Giants retiring numbers, Gifford, Simms, Taylor, there was a considerable wait for them as well, Eli was the exception not the rule.


Yeah but those guys were all but done when Strahan walked through the door. I guess I should have been more clear in what I meant which was questioning why it took the Giants so long to retire his number.

Meaning they've been a poorly run organization in the last decade or so in general - not so much to do with the proper time the team takes to retire a number. Mainly, not ones retired years ago.
Next number to be retired - Gano  
Ivan15 : 11/29/2021 6:13 pm : link
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Florio  
Ron Johnson : 11/29/2021 6:20 pm : link
Is a snot nosed Viking fan who never got over 41-0
RE: RE: So he makes this point  
santacruzom : 11/29/2021 6:25 pm : link
In comment 15472480 ZogZerg said:
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On the day they win?



To be fair. He had the 0-4 Narrative all worked out and had to change last minute.


What point of his should be modified after yesterday's win? That Mara was wise not to speak before a crowd that likely would have booed him? That there's no one on the team who's likely to be enough of a Giants fixture to have his number retired?
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