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Danny Shelton on Holmes INT

Tuckrule : 11/29/2021 12:01 pm
Haven’t seen this mentioned but on the Holmes INT if Shelton has any football iq he would have blocked the incoming OL who has a clear shot at Darnay. Instead Shelton decides to stare down darnay and jog towards him. Every other defensive players is looking upfield except for Danny Shelton. He allowed his teammate to get lit up and ultimately injured. Just another play where Shelton sucks.
Yup  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/29/2021 12:03 pm : link
he actually looks like the guy who caused the injury.
Dude is just  
BigBlueJ : 11/29/2021 12:03 pm : link
here to collect a check. He had like 9 snaps, played Gentleman and the personnel office, jokes on them.
Also dude  
BigBlueJ : 11/29/2021 12:07 pm : link
was getting BLOWN off the ball.
RE: Yup  
ImThatGuy : 11/29/2021 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15472250 Eric from BBI said:
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he actually looks like the guy who caused the injury.

eh, I don't think he caused the injury. But his slow trot to Darnay + the pile-on at the end didn't help
ImThatGuy  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/29/2021 12:08 pm : link
I'll have to re-watch the play, but my immediate reaction was the two actually collided with each other.
RE: ImThatGuy  
Brown_Hornet : 11/29/2021 12:10 pm : link
In comment 15472266 Eric from BBI said:
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I'll have to re-watch the play, but my immediate reaction was the two actually collided with each other.
That's what I thought as well.
RE: ImThatGuy  
FranknWeezer : 11/29/2021 12:22 pm : link
In comment 15472266 Eric from BBI said:
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I'll have to re-watch the play, but my immediate reaction was the two actually collided with each other.

Link to clip of INT - ( New Window )
There isn't a DT on the practice squad  
aquidneck : 11/29/2021 12:30 pm : link
they could internally scout and potentially groom as a replacement.

I wonder why.
People  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/29/2021 12:44 pm : link
are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.

RE: People  
Jeff : 11/29/2021 12:57 pm : link
In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:
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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.

Not trying to be a dick but if they didnt have him who would be playing Center right now ? Sakura (sp?)?
How this guy is playing for us still  
mattlawson : 11/29/2021 12:59 pm : link
after what he's put on tape this season is absolutely pathetic.
He might  
mittenedman : 11/29/2021 1:00 pm : link
be the worst DT I've ever seen.
RE: Also dude  
mattlawson : 11/29/2021 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15472263 BigBlueJ said:
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was getting BLOWN off the ball.


what else is new.... every damn game
As cmon, the big guy was looking to make the tackle…  
Spider56 : 11/29/2021 1:01 pm : link
on Holmes
RE: People  
Dankbeerman : 11/29/2021 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:
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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.


I wouldnt trade Danny Shelton for Billy Price
RE: RE: People  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/29/2021 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15472499 Jeff said:
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In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:


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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.



Not trying to be a dick but if they didnt have him who would be playing Center right now ? Sakura (sp?)?


Or Spencer Pulley. He sucks just as much as Price, but we'd still have Hill, who doesn't suck.
When I saw the play I thought that Shelton  
Bubba : 11/29/2021 1:07 pm : link
hit Holmes too.
I won’t blame Gettleman here  
Sammo85 : 11/29/2021 1:07 pm : link
The Shelton signing and continued playing time (even one snap too much) is on Judge and Graham. They pushed the signing from his time in NE and playing against him and we’re blah-blah-blah about “multiples” and fronts and all that good gibberish he could help with.
RE: RE: People  
ColHowPepper : 11/29/2021 1:08 pm : link
In comment 15472499 Jeff said:
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In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.//////
Not trying to be a dick but if they didnt have him who would be playing Center right now ? Sakura (sp?)?
Jeff, true, but after the fact. I still want to understand why and how the fxxk the decision was made to move Gates to LG in the first place. The injury happened in a matter of one or two series after the switch, two new players in new positions on the OL, shocker there's no chemistry or cohesion, but it went far worse.

There was not one valid or rational reason to make that switch, Gates was playing reasonably well, certainly not a disaster, and Price had a slew of ???s, you had other LG candidates.
RE: RE: ImThatGuy  
ImThatGuy : 11/29/2021 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15472347 FranknWeezer said:
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In comment 15472266 Eric from BBI said:


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I'll have to re-watch the play, but my immediate reaction was the two actually collided with each other.

Link to clip of INT - ( New Window )


I love watching him belly flop on the pile at the end
Like everyone else...  
Kanavis : 11/29/2021 1:17 pm : link
I thought he collided with Holmes when it first happened. I immediately replayed it on the DVR a few times. If you look closely, the Eagles player comes in right in front of him, and lower and the collision happens with him.

However, it was possible he could have altered the play with effort to block and perhaps we aren't looking at Holmes being out. It looks like he was trying to tackle Holmes and missed. I have no idea what he is thinking.

Let's see if the king of accountability decides to keep him in the lineup. Everyone is accountable, except the HC with timeouts, or the right tackle who simply can't play, or EE who reverted to EE yesterday, and now Shelton. Also, I have no clue as to why Price started initially instead of just replacing the LG.
RE: People  
Ben in Tampa : 11/29/2021 1:52 pm : link
In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:
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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.


You are right.

It’s pretty clear the organization lacks an ability to evaluate its own talent.
For all the coaches on this team, I expect  
ZogZerg : 11/29/2021 1:53 pm : link
smarter football played on the Field.

I don't see it.
RE: People  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/29/2021 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:
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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.



I don’t think anyone would argue with you there. Billy Price fucking sucks.
JoeyBigBlue  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/29/2021 2:15 pm : link
I took a ton of grief when they made that trade and said it was a bad one.

"What option do we have?"

I was told the same when we signed Nate Solder. I thought that was a bad move.
RE: JoeyBigBlue  
Matt M. : 11/29/2021 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15472742 Eric from BBI said:
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I took a ton of grief when they made that trade and said it was a bad one.

"What option do we have?"

I was told the same when we signed Nate Solder. I thought that was a bad move.
I agree with you 100%. I was not in favor of trading Hill when it happened and obviously not a fan now. Hill provided a solid option as part of a rotation on the DL. Right now, they are thin. The giants seemed to be consumed with the fact that Price was drafted in the 1st round instead of recognizing he has not provided anywhere near 1st round play.

This also goes back to a drum I've beaten about depth on the OL. The Giants completely ignored it. It was one thing to say they are rolling the dice on Thomas-Lemieux-Gates-Hernandez-Peart/Solder. But, they had no legitimate depth anywhere on the OL before Lemieux got hurt. Then when he did get hurt, they ignored it until the eve of the season. It as if they just assumed he will be healthy and they'd be fine. So within a couple of weeks they needed LG replacements and then were forced to find an OC replacement when Gates got hurt because they had NOBODY competent ehading into the season.
RE: People  
Ivan15 : 11/29/2021 2:44 pm : link
In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:
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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.


Giants were desperate at that time and I don’t think Skura had been made available. The fact that they were desperate is a different issue.
RE: JoeyBigBlue  
Sammo85 : 11/29/2021 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15472742 Eric from BBI said:
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I took a ton of grief when they made that trade and said it was a bad one.

"What option do we have?"

I was told the same when we signed Nate Solder. I thought that was a bad move.


It’s why nobody from this front office deserves to earn a paycheck or survive a necessary purge.

Abrams, Pettit, Koncz, Sternfeld, and pretty much anybody else involved in the college scouting, pro personnel, self evaluation realms needs to go.
RE: JoeyBigBlue  
section125 : 11/29/2021 3:51 pm : link
In comment 15472742 Eric from BBI said:
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I took a ton of grief when they made that trade and said it was a bad one.

"What option do we have?"

I was told the same when we signed Nate Solder. I thought that was a bad move.


Solder I knew was a bad move.
RE: RE: People  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/29/2021 3:55 pm : link
In comment 15472499 Jeff said:
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In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:


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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.



Not trying to be a dick but if they didnt have him who would be playing Center right now ? Sakura (sp?)?

Skura (Google?)?

Then who would play the other OG spot? It's not like Skura (Google?) is waiting in the wings; he's also starting right now.
RE: How this guy is playing for us still  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/29/2021 3:56 pm : link
In comment 15472508 mattlawson said:
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after what he's put on tape this season is absolutely pathetic.

He played for the Patriots, ever. That might also be why Solder is still starting at RT.
 
christian : 11/29/2021 4:03 pm : link
There were a number of posts in the off season predicting Shelton would replace Tomlinson in the rotation. Turns out he was replacing Hill, and as Eric points out, it’s a big step backward.
RE: RE: People  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/29/2021 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15472810 Ivan15 said:
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In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:


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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.




Giants were desperate at that time and I don’t think Skura had been made available. The fact that they were desperate is a different issue.


So re-sign Spencer Pulley. He was a FA at the time (and is now too).
Ok what i see is the defender riding Holmes and  
rasbutant : 11/29/2021 8:40 pm : link
Shelton running towards them probably trying to figure out in his head how do I get that guy off him and just as the are approaching each other. The other defender comes crashing in and they all fall down. Could he have done different sure but it wasn’t a lack of effort. He was going for the immediate treat and not thinking ahead to the secondary treat with the assumption that Holmes could deal with the immediate treat on his own.
RE: People  
Johnny5 : 11/29/2021 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:
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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.

Me neither
RE: People  
Johnny5 : 11/29/2021 11:30 pm : link
In comment 15472980 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15472810 Ivan15 said:


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In comment 15472436 Eric from BBI said:


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are going to get pissed at me because I'm raising this again, but I would not have traded B.J. Hill for Billy Price.




Giants were desperate at that time and I don’t think Skura had been made available. The fact that they were desperate is a different issue.



So re-sign Spencer Pulley. He was a FA at the time (and is now too).

I would have kept BJ Hill and Jon Harrison. They cut Harrison and I thought he was better than Price by a lot. I know they brought him back and he got hurt, but I was shocked when they cut him on the last cutdowns. Especially when you look at what we got for losing BJ Hill. We could have kept Gates at Center, Harrison as backup, and BJ Hill on the DL rather than than the ghost of Dan SHelton.
He's trash  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/2/2021 12:19 pm : link
everytime he's on the field, team run right at him. He's like a upright freezer on wheels
Based on some write ups Shelton  
bc4life : 12/2/2021 1:42 pm : link
has had some quality reps.
Thanks for posting  
weaverpsu : 12/2/2021 6:52 pm : link
After watching that video, I'm super annoyed lol. Holmes is one of my faves. Ugh. Great job dummy.
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