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NFT: Scherzer to Mets $130M over 3 years , eminent per Heyman

Archer : 11/29/2021 12:18 pm
As per Jon Heyman


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"Max Scherzer and the Mets are finalizing $130M, 3-year deal. Minor details to go only."

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Why whenever there is big Mets news does Dave invade these threads?  
moespree : 11/29/2021 1:39 pm : link
And then hilariously suggest Mets fans suffer from little brother syndrome. Always unprovoked, and always on his own, which is kind of ironic if you think about it.

He was banned for a few weeks during the 2015 World Series for the same thing. I and many others remember that.

It's weird Dave. Especially for anyone over the age of 12.
RE: Why whenever there is big Mets news does Dave invade these threads?  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/29/2021 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15472636 moespree said:
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And then hilariously suggest Mets fans suffer from little brother syndrome. Always unprovoked, and always on his own, which is kind of ironic if you think about it.

He was banned for a few weeks during the 2015 World Series for the same thing. I and many others remember that.

It's weird Dave. Especially for anyone over the age of 12.


I've never been banned. There's also been plenty of times over the years Mets fans have posted on Yankees threads.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Anyone on this forum  
Chris684 : 11/29/2021 1:52 pm : link
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Hating on the Mets is likely a miserable F. Enjoy Mets fans. Since 1962 it’s 8 rings to 2. We’ll never catch up. The big brother complex is only a few guys who probably have issues outside this forum.



The hypocrisy is hilarious.



Go find a Yankees thread if you can find one, might not be though since nothing is going on in the Bronx at the moment. All is quiet over there.



Is that supposed to be an insult or something?



Just your mere presence on this thread (especially to throw cold water) shows us all how obviously twisted your panties are over this.

Which I have to say, really makes me happy.

Enjoy the positive attention the Mets are going to get the next several weeks!



You summed up the Met fan better than I even could. Enjoy that 'positive attention' over the next several weeks. I guess that makes up for not winning anything barely ever as a franchise. Very Jet-esque. :)


Dude why are you even on this thread? The Mets and their fans don't get by on "positive attention". But I do know that you hate it when we get it. I would flip it back on you and say again that just you being here on this thread proves that you care very much about what the Mets are doing and it's all based on your insecurities as a Yankee fan. All that winning over the years and you're still a little bitch of a Yankee fan.
Dave is angry because the Mets  
johnnyb : 11/29/2021 1:52 pm : link
made a huge acqusition. If it were the Yankees making this acquisition, not so sure the anger would be there.

Cheer up Dave. Don't be so hostile to Met fans. It is not a good look.
Actually I thought Yankees fans were excited  
Rory : 11/29/2021 2:15 pm : link
And Had their hopes on Marte. Whoops

Playing, here’s to one fucking hell of a subway series next season.

-r
Just wanna say the bukkake reference is exceptional  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/29/2021 2:22 pm : link
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Yep, fans actually celebrate winning championships.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/29/2021 2:28 pm : link
What that has to do with bukkake, that might be a you issue.
Not that...ah, nevermind. :)
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Dave in Hoboken : 11/29/2021 2:29 pm : link
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Hating on the Mets is likely a miserable F. Enjoy Mets fans. Since 1962 it’s 8 rings to 2. We’ll never catch up. The big brother complex is only a few guys who probably have issues outside this forum.



The hypocrisy is hilarious.



Go find a Yankees thread if you can find one, might not be though since nothing is going on in the Bronx at the moment. All is quiet over there.



Is that supposed to be an insult or something?



Just your mere presence on this thread (especially to throw cold water) shows us all how obviously twisted your panties are over this.

Which I have to say, really makes me happy.

Enjoy the positive attention the Mets are going to get the next several weeks!



You summed up the Met fan better than I even could. Enjoy that 'positive attention' over the next several weeks. I guess that makes up for not winning anything barely ever as a franchise. Very Jet-esque. :)



Dude why are you even on this thread? The Mets and their fans don't get by on "positive attention". But I do know that you hate it when we get it. I would flip it back on you and say again that just you being here on this thread proves that you care very much about what the Mets are doing and it's all based on your insecurities as a Yankee fan. All that winning over the years and you're still a little bitch of a Yankee fan.


You seem like the angry one, my friend. Please tell us more how great of a GM DG is and how the Giants have been on the right path over his tenure?

Impotent dipshit.
RE: $43.3 Million a year for a guy pushing 40 with no tread on his tires?  
speedywheels : 11/29/2021 2:30 pm : link
In comment 15472415 Stan in LA said:
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Good luck with that.


Pushing 40? He won't even be 38 until next summer.

No tread on his tires? His 2021 stats: 15-4, 2.46 ERA (and ERA+ of 166), 0.864 WHIP. Finished 3rd in Cy Young voting, finished 14th in MVP voting.

Oh, and here are the leaders in fWAR for pitchers for the last 6 years:

1. Max Scherzer 33.2
2. Jacob deGrom 30.5
3. Gerrit Cole 25.9
4. Chris Sale 23.5
5. Aaron Nola 22.7
6. Justin Verlander 22.5
7. Clayton Kershaw 22.4

If Scherzer doesn't have any tread left, what does it say about your boy Cole, who trails Scherzer by a wide margin??

Stan talking out of his ass, example #642....

Hang in there Stan - you'll get something right. Eventually....
Trade with the A's for pitching  
Archer : 11/29/2021 2:33 pm : link


The Mets need to reduce the workload on Scherzer and deGrom.
So they will need to have more middle of the order depth.

I like the moves the Mets have made but I doubt they are done
I would love the Mets to trade with the A's

The A's are in a full money dump and as such are a good match with the Mets

The Mets have stated that they will take on bad contracts to facilitate a trade. The Mets should take on some bad contracts, trade Dom, Davis, and or McNeil, along with lower level pitching prospects for Sean Manaea (29) , who is represented by Scott Boras or Chris Bassitt (32)

Manaea, is projected to earn $10.3 million and is 3rd-Year Arb Eligible and will not be a free agent until 2023. He would be perfect for the Mets. A left handed power pitcher. He is a 2-3 starter on a good team.

Chris Bassitt is (32) is projected to make $8.8 million



RE: Yankees fan here  
speedywheels : 11/29/2021 2:36 pm : link
In comment 15472628 M.S. said:
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With three sentiments:

(1) Congrats to Mets fans for getting a top flight starter;

(2) Very exciting day;

(3) I’ve seen a lotta big money tossed around by my team and it doesn’t always work.


Regarding #3 - true, but us Met fans have had such a shitty owner for so long, it's great to finally have one who's willing to spend!
I see both sides of the argument  
islander1 : 11/29/2021 2:39 pm : link
but the term being three years is pretty fair. He's durable and still dominant.

It's a LOT of money though, feels like yesterday A-Rod was signing his 10 year deal.
Reality is ...  
KDavies : 11/29/2021 2:40 pm : link
Cohen probably makes $130 million on a good day in the stock market.
Mets have checked in on Rodon and Kikuchi  
Metnut : 11/29/2021 2:43 pm : link
per Mayer
God I love this signing!!!!  
GiantBlue : 11/29/2021 3:32 pm : link
Because Max is a Met killer and not having to face him 5 times a year is worth 5 wins right there!!!!

Great offseason so far!

Let's keep the creativity going, Mets Management.

Time to turn the corner finally!
This is fantastic news for Met fans  
arniefez : 11/29/2021 3:33 pm : link
on several levels. Aside from being a top 10 MLB pitcher Scherzer is one of the most respected players in MLB by his peers. Best of health to him and deGrom in 2022. Nice to see Cohen use his $ advantage to shake things up.

As a Yankee fan who also roots for the Mets the better they are, the more noise they make, the more eye balls they draw away from the Yankees the better at this point. Because IMO to Hal and family the Yankees are just an ATM funded by hopeful suckers. All that Hal cares about is spending just enough to keep the suckers spending. Winning a championship isn't important to him. The bottom line is his business. Maybe losing attention to Cohen and the Mets can change that thinking.
all these contracts are absurd no matter who is giving/getting them  
Victor in CT : 11/29/2021 3:35 pm : link
just have to hope as a baseball fan that they work out and the players stay healthy and perform.
If he wants another name stater  
Joe Beckwith : 11/29/2021 4:00 pm : link
He can have Chris Sale for a 5th rd pick.
- - Red Sox FO
😉
RE: RE: Yankees fan here  
M.S. : 11/29/2021 5:24 pm : link
In comment 15472789 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15472628 M.S. said:


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With three sentiments:

(1) Congrats to Mets fans for getting a top flight starter;

(2) Very exciting day;

(3) I’ve seen a lotta big money tossed around by my team and it doesn’t always work.



Regarding #3 - true, but us Met fans have had such a shitty owner for so long, it's great to finally have one who's willing to spend!

I hear you! Absolutely!!! Having an owner that’s willing to spend is a great sign and generates tremendous excitement for the next season.
RE: RE: Yankees fan here  
M.S. : 11/29/2021 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15472789 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15472628 M.S. said:


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With three sentiments:

(1) Congrats to Mets fans for getting a top flight starter;

(2) Very exciting day;

(3) I’ve seen a lotta big money tossed around by my team and it doesn’t always work.



Regarding #3 - true, but us Met fans have had such a shitty owner for so long, it's great to finally have one who's willing to spend!

And one mo’ thing: in just a few days the Mets are a much better team!
Dave showing off his high IQ like usual  
adamg : 11/29/2021 5:50 pm : link
Making Yankees fans look bad. Congrats Mets fans. Hope DeGrom can get a ring for his HOF resume. Good luck. Beat the fucking Dodgers will ya?
RE: RE: RE: Yankees fan here  
Mike in NY : 11/29/2021 5:53 pm : link
In comment 15473143 M.S. said:
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With three sentiments:

(1) Congrats to Mets fans for getting a top flight starter;

(2) Very exciting day;

(3) I’ve seen a lotta big money tossed around by my team and it doesn’t always work.



Regarding #3 - true, but us Met fans have had such a shitty owner for so long, it's great to finally have one who's willing to spend!


I hear you! Absolutely!!! Having an owner that’s willing to spend is a great sign and generates tremendous excitement for the next season.


Not just spending for the sake of spending, but short term deals and not sacrificing picks when comparable non-Qualified players are available.
RE: RE: RE: Yankees fan here  
speedywheels : 11/29/2021 5:54 pm : link
In comment 15473149 M.S. said:
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With three sentiments:

(1) Congrats to Mets fans for getting a top flight starter;

(2) Very exciting day;

(3) I’ve seen a lotta big money tossed around by my team and it doesn’t always work.



Regarding #3 - true, but us Met fans have had such a shitty owner for so long, it's great to finally have one who's willing to spend!


And one mo’ thing: in just a few days the Mets are a much better team!


Oh, I don't know about that. But I'm so tired of the Mets wasting deGrom's prime, it's great to see them really going for it now...
RE: RE: $43.3 Million a year for a guy pushing 40 with no tread on his tires?  
Stan in LA : 11/29/2021 6:00 pm : link
In comment 15472776 speedywheels said:
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Good luck with that.



Pushing 40? He won't even be 38 until next summer.

No tread on his tires? His 2021 stats: 15-4, 2.46 ERA (and ERA+ of 166), 0.864 WHIP. Finished 3rd in Cy Young voting, finished 14th in MVP voting.

Oh, and here are the leaders in fWAR for pitchers for the last 6 years:

1. Max Scherzer 33.2
2. Jacob deGrom 30.5
3. Gerrit Cole 25.9
4. Chris Sale 23.5
5. Aaron Nola 22.7
6. Justin Verlander 22.5
7. Clayton Kershaw 22.4

If Scherzer doesn't have any tread left, what does it say about your boy Cole, who trails Scherzer by a wide margin??

Stan talking out of his ass, example #642....

Hang in there Stan - you'll get something right. Eventually....

And he had a 'dead arm' in the playoffs. Huge pass.
RE: RE: RE: Yankees fan here  
Vanzetti : 11/29/2021 6:40 pm : link
In comment 15473149 M.S. said:
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With three sentiments:

(1) Congrats to Mets fans for getting a top flight starter;

(2) Very exciting day;

(3) I’ve seen a lotta big money tossed around by my team and it doesn’t always work.



Regarding #3 - true, but us Met fans have had such a shitty owner for so long, it's great to finally have one who's willing to spend!


And one mo’ thing: in just a few days the Mets are a much better team!



Thanks M.S. Been a long time for us Mets fans. And I always appreciate the class you show in your posts.
The “Stan Seal of Disapproval” makes me more comfortable with  
CooperDash : 11/29/2021 6:41 pm : link
this deal. This dude is wrong about literally everything. I’m fully onboard now. LFGM!
RE: RE: RE: $43.3 Million a year for a guy pushing 40 with no tread on his tires?  
speedywheels : 11/29/2021 6:48 pm : link
In comment 15473186 Stan in LA said:
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Good luck with that.



Pushing 40? He won't even be 38 until next summer.

No tread on his tires? His 2021 stats: 15-4, 2.46 ERA (and ERA+ of 166), 0.864 WHIP. Finished 3rd in Cy Young voting, finished 14th in MVP voting.

Oh, and here are the leaders in fWAR for pitchers for the last 6 years:

1. Max Scherzer 33.2
2. Jacob deGrom 30.5
3. Gerrit Cole 25.9
4. Chris Sale 23.5
5. Aaron Nola 22.7
6. Justin Verlander 22.5
7. Clayton Kershaw 22.4

If Scherzer doesn't have any tread left, what does it say about your boy Cole, who trails Scherzer by a wide margin??

Stan talking out of his ass, example #642....

Hang in there Stan - you'll get something right. Eventually....


And he had a 'dead arm' in the playoffs. Huge pass.


Sigh.....

Of course, you're completely ignoring the fact that a lot of pitchers had arm issues at the end of the year, given they threw so few innings in 2020 and then ramped up to so many in 2021.

And even with that, his playoff numbers: 2.2 ERA, 1.1 WHIP and 23K's in 16.2 innings, including a game vs SFG where he threw 8 innings, giving up 1 run on 3 hits.


Does it hurt being that stupid?
Stupid is giving $43 M to an ancient pitcher  
Stan in LA : 11/29/2021 7:11 pm : link
Figures the Mets would do it.
As a Yankees fan  
Mike from SI : 11/29/2021 7:32 pm : link
I say congrats to you guys on finally getting an owner you deserve. I think the signing will work out fine but there is of course a risk with age.
If Cohen's moves make the Mets win the WS...  
PA Aggie : 11/29/2021 7:44 pm : link
Is he wealthy enough to buy the Giants?
RE: Stupid is giving $43 M to an ancient pitcher  
johnnyb : 11/29/2021 7:46 pm : link
In comment 15473237 Stan in LA said:
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Figures the Mets would do it.


Stan, do you realize the Yankees gave a nine year deal worth $324 Million to a 30 year old pitcher, which will take him to age 39. The Mets on the other hand gave $130 Million to a 37 year old for three years. Both Cole and Scherzer will be of similar age when their respective contracts expire. In fact, the Mets will be past Scherzer after the 2024 season, while the Yankees will still have Cole until 2028 season ends.

And, Scherzer was the better pitcher last year.
Freakin Yankee trolls  
Debaser : 11/29/2021 8:11 pm : link
Let the Mets fans enjoy this ... george bought you guys plenty of World Series over the years So just zip it
lol this thread has almost zero discussion about Sherzer  
ZGiants98 : 11/29/2021 8:15 pm : link
Got hung up earlier today. Congrats Mets fans! Best 1 2 punch in the game and its not really close. :)
Seriously the mets Have two  
Debaser : 11/29/2021 9:51 pm : link
Aces now ... sweet
RE: RE: Stupid is giving $43 M to an ancient pitcher  
speedywheels : 11/29/2021 9:55 pm : link
In comment 15473273 johnnyb said:
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Figures the Mets would do it.



Stan, do you realize the Yankees gave a nine year deal worth $324 Million to a 30 year old pitcher, which will take him to age 39. The Mets on the other hand gave $130 Million to a 37 year old for three years. Both Cole and Scherzer will be of similar age when their respective contracts expire. In fact, the Mets will be past Scherzer after the 2024 season, while the Yankees will still have Cole until 2028 season ends.

And, Scherzer was the better pitcher last year.


It's Stan - he can't help being stupid...
Look at Heineken  
Debaser : 11/29/2021 10:04 pm : link
Playin smart
SEriously yank fans worst nightmare is a salary cap in baseball  
Debaser : 11/29/2021 10:09 pm : link
Last place for 20yrs
RE: RE: Yankee-fan BBIers  
schabadoo : 11/29/2021 11:43 pm : link
In comment 15472529 JayBinQueens said:
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being shitty on a positive, even celebratory Mets thread?

Never happen!



Hey, they've won 1 championship in the last 20 years... They're clearly the best team anyone could ever hope to root for, and their success clearly makes the people who root for them better than everyone else.


Wow, this is sadness on display.
Vanzetti  
M.S. : 11/30/2021 4:47 am : link

Thanks for your kind words, much appreciated.
Looks like Mets are out on Baez...  
moze1021 : 11/30/2021 7:55 am : link
Eric in Li seems to be correct...additions from now will be minor pieces.

Can't complain w/ a payroll that will be pushing $300M!
RE: RE: RE: Yankee-fan BBIers  
JayBinQueens : 11/30/2021 8:17 am : link
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being shitty on a positive, even celebratory Mets thread?

Never happen!



Hey, they've won 1 championship in the last 20 years... They're clearly the best team anyone could ever hope to root for, and their success clearly makes the people who root for them better than everyone else.



Wow, this is sadness on display.


Sadness is going into a thread of another team to be a wet blanket. Especially when you try to make fun of the fans for not having won in 35 years when 'his team' (one he does nothing for) hasn't won in a while either
It's kind of like...  
moze1021 : 11/30/2021 8:26 am : link
when there is that rich kid who always gets the best toys...

The other kids look up to him with envy at what his parents bought him..

Then a poor kid finally get some luck and his parents get a great new job and get him a new, awesome toy that even the aforementioned rich kid didn't get..

Then the rich kid (instead of being happy for the poor kid), tells the poor kid that his toy sucks and it doesn't matter that his parents have money now because his toys will always suck
JayBin, moespree  
Drewcon40 : 11/30/2021 8:51 am : link
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Sadness is going into a thread of another team to be a wet blanket.


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Then the rich kid (instead of being happy for the poor kid), tells the poor kid that his toy sucks and it doesn't matter that his parents have money now because his toys will always suck


great posts - there were some classy posts from other teams. There is one dude on this site that certainly has some anger or inferiority issues. To troll Mets fans on a NY Giants site with such vitriol means that person must have some shortcomings outside this forum. Like moespree mentioned, these fans likely weren't around to remember the late 80s where both teams were legitimate. They only know Yankee dominance and now Cohen is trying to change the culture and it annoys some.

Being a fan of the Yankees or the Mets doesn't add inches to the ol' pishadeel.
Good get for the Mets  
HomerJones45 : 11/30/2021 9:00 am : link
who have a had a nice offseason.

When you think of it, these ballplayers are getting staggering amounts of money. Some of these guys are going to have great grandchildren sitting on their yachts talking about how great grandad played for the Dodgers, left the family a pile of money and no one in the family has had to work since.
The Yanks trolling here is laughable and  
csb : 11/30/2021 9:38 am : link
Stan is either having fun trying to get arise out of Mets fans by stirring the pot or is just an insecure loser. Of course there is always risk in giving a 37 year old pitcher $40M+ for 3-years; but if there's one 37-year old pitcher you invest in it is Scherzer.

I'm fine with Javy to Detroit; it feels wrong to trade McNeil when his value is at it's lowest and think he should be in-line for a bounceback year. Now we just need a mid-rotation inning eater and a lefty out of the pen and this offseason would be a huge success. Nobody wins the WS in the offseason but the Mets are a much better team and 180-degrees different from where they were when Noah took the LA deal. Mets fans should be excited - we've been waiting for a move like Scherzer since Cohen took over.
RE: Stupid is giving $43 M to an ancient pitcher  
Rory : 11/30/2021 10:21 am : link
In comment 15473237 Stan in LA said:
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Figures the Mets would do it.


Stupider is betting against Max Scherzer.

K thanks
43  
DanMetroMan : 11/30/2021 10:25 am : link
million values Scherzer at a roughly 5 win SP (5.375) to be exact.. he was worth 5.4 million in 2021, projected 5.1 in 2022. Obviously this deal has little to no surplus and will likely be a slight overpay but you don't win games based on value.
Baez...  
moze1021 : 11/30/2021 11:03 am : link
6 for 140 to Detroit..

Can't blame Mets for not going there.
RE: Baez...  
Debaser : 11/30/2021 12:53 pm : link
In comment 15474056 moze1021 said:
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6 for 140 to Detroit..

Can't blame Mets for not going there.


I liked Baez. And they are going to need some sluggers. Cano is like 40 freakin years old.

I wish they could have retained Baez. What was up with that booing thumbs down thing he did. Kinda douchey but, he would also do it to the opposing teams fans too like at Dodgers stadium.
RE: It's kind of like...  
Vanzetti : 12/2/2021 4:51 pm : link
In comment 15473836 moze1021 said:
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when there is that rich kid who always gets the best toys...

The other kids look up to him with envy at what his parents bought him..

Then a poor kid finally get some luck and his parents get a great new job and get him a new, awesome toy that even the aforementioned rich kid didn't get..

Then the rich kid (instead of being happy for the poor kid), tells the poor kid that his toy sucks and it doesn't matter that his parents have money now because his toys will always suck


great parable Moze!
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