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NGT: Brian Kelly leaves Norte Dame for LSU

BeckShepEli : 11/29/2021 8:02 pm
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:04 pm : link
ME?
This is almost as crazy as soccer summer transfer window.  
DCGMan : 11/29/2021 8:05 pm : link
Almost.
good riddance...  
JCin332 : 11/29/2021 8:07 pm : link
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Bad move for  
ajr2456 : 11/29/2021 8:08 pm : link
LSU
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:08 pm : link
Promote Freeman.

& FU Kelly. I'm so sick of these fucking coaches lying about being 'happy' where they are & then days later sticking it to the fan base.
Fickell...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:10 pm : link
Make a run @ him.

Fuck it. Coaches leaving left & right. Enjoy being Bama's & UGA's bitch Brian.
Good riddance?  
Mook80 : 11/29/2021 8:10 pm : link
I'm not about to trash the guy on his way out. It sounds like Kelly wanted the administration to put a lot more into the facilities and also significantly up his salary and his assistants as well and they didn't meet his demands. Can't say I blame him with what LSU was reportedly offering.

2016 not withstanding he did a great job. It's not an easy place to succeed in todays landscape and he has done a terrific job since 2017.

It’s a weird thing about college football..  
Sean : 11/29/2021 8:10 pm : link
These coaches coach all season and then bail before the bowl game. Very strange.
If true, I am  
section125 : 11/29/2021 8:12 pm : link
surprised. Thought he was going to be the long term coach at ND.
I don't get it.  
FStubbs : 11/29/2021 8:12 pm : link
Don't these coaches usually leave for a bigger name program? Notre Dame is arguably the biggest.
RE: I don't get it.  
ajr2456 : 11/29/2021 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15473327 FStubbs said:
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Don't these coaches usually leave for a bigger name program? Notre Dame is arguably the biggest.


You can bring in much better players at LSU because of the admission standards. He’d never be able to recruit well enough at Notre Dame to win a title.
Kelly  
Mook80 : 11/29/2021 8:13 pm : link
didn't owe ND anything. If they weren't willing to make a greater commitment to the program and give him the tools needed to get to the next level which is national title contender, I can't blame him for leaving.

LSU is one of the 5 best jobs in the country.

I would promote Marcus Freeman. I think Weis flopping will prevent them from doing that and Swarbick has made it clear he prefers someone with HC experience, but Dabo had no HC experience, Ryan Day was only a sole offensive coordinator for one season, before they got the Clemson and Ohio State jobs.

Terrible move by him  
Dankbeerman : 11/29/2021 8:14 pm : link
He may have maxed out at ND but was a great fit there. He will not be a good fit in the SEC. He will struggle ti make the SEC championship.

This is a case of LSU chasing a big name. Doesnt make a good match but at least he will run a clean program for them.


From ND perspective its a massive blow if they lose some of the really good recruits they have recently landed but They may need somthing else to get them a chance to win a Playoff game.

Swarbick better have Fickell on the  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:14 pm : link
phone right now.
RE: It’s a weird thing about college football..  
Mook80 : 11/29/2021 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15473323 Sean said:
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These coaches coach all season and then bail before the bowl game. Very strange.


The new recruiting dates make it very important to bail before the bowl game if you're going to leave. Early signing period is like a week away.

Which is it  
Mook80 : 11/29/2021 8:15 pm : link
SFGF? First you said promote Freeman, now you want Fickell.

I'm not sure Fickell will be willing to bail before the playoff. And ND can't afford to wait, recruiting for 2022 will fall apart if they do so.

Mook.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:15 pm : link
I think Fickell is top choice, but I'd seriously consier Freeman too.
RE: If true, I am  
bw in dc : 11/29/2021 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15473326 section125 said:
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surprised. Thought he was going to be the long term coach at ND.


Well, he was there for a decade +. ;)

He's going restore LSU. Kelly can coach, Louisiana is a talent rich state, and he'll get more players due to easier academics.
Mook.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:16 pm : link
My brain is out of whack, Haha. I had a buddy text me this morning about Kelly going to Baton Rouge & I didn't believe it...now that it's seemingly a reality, my mind is scrambling.
Does Meyer bail Jax for ND?  
Sean : 11/29/2021 8:18 pm : link
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RE: Does Meyer bail Jax for ND?  
bw in dc : 11/29/2021 8:20 pm : link
In comment 15473343 Sean said:
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I don't see it. He wants a lot of talent and ND's standards put a limit on their talent pool.
RE: RE: If true, I am  
section125 : 11/29/2021 8:20 pm : link
In comment 15473339 bw in dc said:
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surprised. Thought he was going to be the long term coach at ND.



Well, he was there for a decade +. ;)

He's going restore LSU. Kelly can coach, Louisiana is a talent rich state, and he'll get more players due to easier academics.


Didn't work out well for Jimbo Fisher going from FSU to Texas A&M.

Well cannot be angry. He has the right to coach any place he wants.
I still don’t believe it.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/29/2021 8:21 pm : link
I’m shocked he would leave a place where his job security is damn near guaranteed for a place you can get fired two years after winning a title. Strikes me as a move a guy makes when he doesn’t think he’ll be coaching much longer.

I think Fickell to ND and Freeman back to Cinncy would be the corresponding moves. If true. Which I still refuse to believe.
If 'The Snake-Urban-leaves Jacksonville  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:22 pm : link
for South Bend...have the wife call the EMT because all this craziness might have me croak.

RE: Does Meyer bail Jax for ND?  
Mook80 : 11/29/2021 8:22 pm : link
In comment 15473343 Sean said:
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Maybe I'll be shocked but I just don't see the ND administration even considering Meyer. Some feel like Meyer used them 16 years ago or whenever it was and the scandals following him certainly dont help either.

I just want to promote freeman. It's risky but less risky in todays game than it used to be. Smart, Day and Dabo are 3 of the best coaches in the sport and never lead a program before they got those jobs.

RE: I still don’t believe it.  
bw in dc : 11/29/2021 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15473346 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I’m shocked he would leave a place where his job security is damn near guaranteed for a place you can get fired two years after winning a title. Strikes me as a move a guy makes when he doesn’t think he’ll be coaching much longer.

I think Fickell to ND and Freeman back to Cinncy would be the corresponding moves. If true. Which I still refuse to believe.


ND doesn't pay him a lot. LSU will increase his salary by 4-5X...easily.
I believe BK was making like $1.5 million.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:25 pm : link
I'm sure LSU..uh..threw a lot more $ @ at him.

Fickell & Freeman are probably top candidates to replace him. And the thought of Kelly eating gumbo...LOL.
RE: I still don’t believe it.  
Mook80 : 11/29/2021 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15473346 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I’m shocked he would leave a place where his job security is damn near guaranteed for a place you can get fired two years after winning a title. Strikes me as a move a guy makes when he doesn’t think he’ll be coaching much longer.

I think Fickell to ND and Freeman back to Cinncy would be the corresponding moves. If true. Which I still refuse to believe.


I thought Kelly had 5 years tops at ND left. I dont think he's a guy that wants to coach forever. And he very well may feel like he can't win a title at ND.

LSU is a very underrated job. One of the top 5 jobs in the entire sport imo.

Orgeron never should have been hired by LSU. He was way in over his head and made so many terrible decisions off the field. He caught lightning in a bottle one year, he got the right coordinators that year and as soon as they left LSU imploded. LSU had no choice but to let him go with the things going on within that program.
Kelly. Lost all respect for him  
Ike#88 : 11/29/2021 8:26 pm : link
when the student was put up in a lift to film practice in high winds and lost his life. Everyone covered his butt. Shameful.
RE: ...  
UConn4523 : 11/29/2021 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15473317 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Promote Freeman.

& FU Kelly. I'm so sick of these fucking coaches lying about being 'happy' where they are & then days later sticking it to the fan base.


They aren’t going to tell you what they are actually thinking, it would be a terrible, no win scenario for them. And if talks backfire you now work at a place where everyone including fans know you don’t want to be there.

It’s a much larger scale and not exactly apples to apples, but would you be honest with your boss and all of your peers while you were interviewing elsewhere?
There’s no way he was making just 1.5 million.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/29/2021 8:27 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: If true, I am  
bw in dc : 11/29/2021 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15473345 section125 said:
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He's going restore LSU. Kelly can coach, Louisiana is a talent rich state, and he'll get more players due to easier academics.



Didn't work out well for Jimbo Fisher going from FSU to Texas A&M.

Well cannot be angry. He has the right to coach any place he wants.


That was LSU's main target - oddly enough - Fisher. It's a fair point, but every situation is different. A&M isn't LSU and they are battling in-state rivals Texas, TTech, Baylor, etc for the top recruits. But Fisher has really increased A&M's recruiting. He's getting close...
No one really  
Mook80 : 11/29/2021 8:27 pm : link
knows what Kelly makes but I'm very confident he was making a hell of a lot more than 1.5 million.

But the LSU number is rumored to be in the 8 figure per year. ND isn't paying that.
RE: RE: I still don’t believe it.  
section125 : 11/29/2021 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15473351 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15473346 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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I’m shocked he would leave a place where his job security is damn near guaranteed for a place you can get fired two years after winning a title. Strikes me as a move a guy makes when he doesn’t think he’ll be coaching much longer.

I think Fickell to ND and Freeman back to Cinncy would be the corresponding moves. If true. Which I still refuse to believe.



ND doesn't pay him a lot. LSU will increase his salary by 4-5X...easily.


$2.7 mill at ND - yeah LSU will go $6-$8 mill.
RE: RE: I still don’t believe it.  
Dankbeerman : 11/29/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15473351 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15473346 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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I’m shocked he would leave a place where his job security is damn near guaranteed for a place you can get fired two years after winning a title. Strikes me as a move a guy makes when he doesn’t think he’ll be coaching much longer.

I think Fickell to ND and Freeman back to Cinncy would be the corresponding moves. If true. Which I still refuse to believe.



ND doesn't pay him a lot. LSU will increase his salary by 4-5X...easily.


If bringing Fickel in loses Freeman I wouldnt do it.
Most people  
Mook80 : 11/29/2021 8:28 pm : link
seem to think Kelly makes around 6-7 million at ND. They dont have to disclose what they pay him because its not a state school.
If ND sneaks into the playoffs...  
bw in dc : 11/29/2021 8:31 pm : link
who coaches?
Mook.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:31 pm : link
Who do you want replacing BK?
RE: If ND sneaks into the playoffs...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:32 pm : link
In comment 15473373 bw in dc said:
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who coaches?


If I had a guess...Rees.
Don’t sleep on Matt Campbell going to ND as HC  
Rick in Dallas : 11/29/2021 8:33 pm : link
Would be a terrific hire as he has done an amazing job at Iowa State
RE: RE: If ND sneaks into the playoffs...  
bw in dc : 11/29/2021 8:34 pm : link
In comment 15473375 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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who coaches?



If I had a guess...Rees.


Is Rees even 30? That would be unbelievable...
RE: RE: If ND sneaks into the playoffs...  
Dankbeerman : 11/29/2021 8:34 pm : link
In comment 15473375 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15473373 bw in dc said:


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who coaches?



If I had a guess...Rees.


Would be interesting to see if Rees goes with Kelly.
RE: Mook.  
Mook80 : 11/29/2021 8:35 pm : link
In comment 15473374 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Who do you want replacing BK?


Freeman. I dont buy the need for experience in todays college football. I think HC experience matters less in college these days than it used to.

Freeman is a midwest guy, has been at ND for a year and is very highly thought of.

Fickell would be the other option, but even if he would be willing to come tomorrow I would still prefer Freeman.
RE: Kelly. Lost all respect for him  
GF1080 : 11/29/2021 8:36 pm : link
In comment 15473360 Ike#88 said:
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when the student was put up in a lift to film practice in high winds and lost his life. Everyone covered his butt. Shameful.


Yup basically negligent homicide and he still gets to make millions a year. Awful.
RE: RE: I still don’t believe it.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/29/2021 8:37 pm : link
In comment 15473359 Mook80 said:
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In comment 15473346 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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I’m shocked he would leave a place where his job security is damn near guaranteed for a place you can get fired two years after winning a title. Strikes me as a move a guy makes when he doesn’t think he’ll be coaching much longer.

I think Fickell to ND and Freeman back to Cinncy would be the corresponding moves. If true. Which I still refuse to believe.



I thought Kelly had 5 years tops at ND left. I dont think he's a guy that wants to coach forever. And he very well may feel like he can't win a title at ND.

LSU is a very underrated job. One of the top 5 jobs in the entire sport imo.

Orgeron never should have been hired by LSU. He was way in over his head and made so many terrible decisions off the field. He caught lightning in a bottle one year, he got the right coordinators that year and as soon as they left LSU imploded. LSU had no choice but to let him go with the things going on within that program.


LSU isn’t underrated. Everyone knows it’s one of the top 3-5 jobs in the country. The problem is the expectations are SO high that a coach can find himself out of a job even after winning it all, like at Auburn.

Like I said before, I’d be shocked if he did this. Far more shocked than I was about Lincoln Riley. I do hope Notre Dame gets killed for this because having assistants and now a successful head coach leave for other schools like they’re fucking SUNY Buffalo is embarrassing. Open up the wallets and really embrace trying to win.
Rees is super young. Not sure if 30.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:38 pm : link
I actually bought him a beer at O'Rourke's a couple of years ago. Nice dude.
ND should call Fitzgerald...  
bw in dc : 11/29/2021 8:39 pm : link
up at Northwestern.
RE: ...  
djstat : 11/29/2021 8:40 pm : link
In comment 15473317 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Promote Freeman.

& FU Kelly. I'm so sick of these fucking coaches lying about being 'happy' where they are & then days later sticking it to the fan base.
Do not care about the fanbase personally, but i do feel awful for the players, who are recruited and then abandoned before the season is over.
And if I'm ND...  
bw in dc : 11/29/2021 8:42 pm : link
I'm also calling Ryan Day. And giving him a blank check.
bw in DC.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2021 8:42 pm : link
Wouldn't mind Pat Fitzgerald. But I am with Mook...Freeman or Fickell.
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