What happened
Why Did he not receive a new contract
Did he leave for his own reasons
Was there some backstory that led to his departure. Locker room issue?
How could we let a guy go who averaged 4.6 YPC for 700 yds and 6 TDs just walk out the door. Also Gallman had breakaway speed Booker does not....he ran one touch fo 60 yds
Did he threaten Barkleys time on the field
Did Gettleman think he could easily plug that hole with a cheaper Booker?
What about Alfred Morris...was he considered eminently replaceable too?
Seems we traded Gallman and Morris for Booker and a gimpy Barkley.
BTW Gallman is averaging 3.6 YDS not 4.6 for Atlanta
I guess we have a superior Oline to Atlanta
I dont think we will ditch Barkley or take him off the field until Gettleman is gone. Gettleman will not stop trying to prove he didnt make the biggest over-reach in Giants Draft history
Having a back who can only get you 2 or 3 yds in two carries puts a tremendous burden on Jones to complete a pass on 3rd and long. Not to mention Barkley is a lightweight blocker to be his last defense before the pocket collapses
In my opinion, Gettleman consciously or unconsciously is sabatoging his own QB pick by insisting we play his "generational back" all day long....therefore having two judgements to account for
We fans now have to hope our D creates 4-5 turnovers per game to pull out a win. That is highly unlikely.
I hope Barkley, at least, becomes service-able before the entire season implodes. I dont think its a physical issue
as much as a mental one. He has to start trying to out-fineses the defense and just blow them backwards. Pick a hole quickly and Hit the hole with maximum force. No more dancing.
Gallman couldn't make the 49ers and he's basically been nothing in Atlanta. He's a fringe roster player in the NFL.
Listen, he was not a gamebreaker or #1 RB but at the vet minimum he would have been a solid pickup and reliable backup.
LOL he fumbled once last year
are you kidding me? If he dove for the ground before any contact as one back does-
He would never fumble. Give me a break, just admit we miss Gallman (another Gettleman miscue)
No matter, Gallman was exposed by Giants counter-intelligence ops and summarily dismissed from the team despite his great talent.
Pictured Giants counter-intelligence operative:
He sucked. They let him walk. Now he’s on different team where, guess what? He hasn’t done shit and still sucks.
Get the fuck over it already.
1. The 49ers did not think enough of him to keep him on their roster - on a run first style of offense
2. He could not crack the starting lineup in Atlanta where they have a horrible running game.
Maybe... he was just a bad draft pick. George Kittle was taken a few picks later and then Aaron Jones in the 5th round. So much for "best player available".
Listen, he was not a gamebreaker or #1 RB but at the vet minimum he would have been a solid pickup and reliable backup.
I was just thinking most of this post could have been rewritten nearly word for word, while inserting Perkins for Gallman, and then right on cue, somebody brings up Perkins. And Darkwa too. Oh boy.
And he didn't make any big plays or really show the potential for being a big play back (no breakaway speed) and isn't that kind of what you'd like in a back-up?
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Maybe they knew he would not be able to replicate that 4.6 and he couldn't.
I liked Gallman as a back up. I felt they should have signed him as one once it became obvious no one wanted him to be a starter. Or even start him here. Pretty much anyone is better than Barkley at this point. Also I am convinved you never need to draft RB. It is just a waste of a pick. They are a dime a dozen and you can win Lobardis with ones you can find on a scrap pile.
why could he not replicate the 4.6? He did it all year in 2020
Also what effect do you think Barkleys lack of production is having on Jones?
I'd imagine the answer to the latter is the constant third and longs that result from 0-2 yard carries.
Right, What NFL QB could deal with constant 3rd and long either by Barkley or penalties? Jones is getting a raw deal
here
Get off of it already. Yes Jones is playing on a bad team . Jones getting a raw deal? He is getting millions of dollars to play as a starting NFL QB which he clearly has no business doing. If it were not for his coach ; Elway would have drafted him in round 3 or whatever ; played him for 4 games realized that he can't throw and sat him behind Bridgewater.
The only reason he is playing is because of where he was draqfted. Same with Barkley. Reason #2 this team sucks. Reason #1 Jones. Garret might be reason # 6. Total shit show.
Same with Gallman. He earned the starting job. I said this and people were laughing at me at the time. Now we have the generational RB who always was like this. basically mailing it in and people wondering wtf. Some dude at a bar was telling me about Barkley years ago. "I been a Giant fan for 50 years " he says : Barkley cares more about how his hair looks than playing football. ..."
The dude was right.
He sucked. They let him walk. Now he’s on different team where, guess what? He hasn’t done shit and still sucks.
Get the fuck over it already.
Shut up already. At least he had breakaway games. We have pleny of mediocre players people like you talk bullsit about...
1. Jones
2. Barkley
3. Gates
4. Lemiuex
Total jags. At least Gallman had some good games and could give you 5 years of 1 st down or just smash it in for a TD. have not had that since Ahmad Bradshaw played here 10 years ago!
Get off of it already. Yes Jones is playing on a bad team . Jones getting a raw deal? He is getting millions of dollars to play as a starting NFL QB which he clearly has no business doing. If it were not for his coach ; Elway would have drafted him in round 3 or whatever ; played him for 4 games realized that he can't throw and sat him behind
All well and good except it is pretty well known that he would have been drafted by Denver or Miami in round 1. If you are going to bash someone, at least get your facts close to correct.
I do not dispute that he has not played up to his draft slot, just that he would have been a 1st round pick not 3rd round.
So you're changing it now? First it was Darnold; then everyone was like Cam Netwon this and that and Darnold will never start again. Newton will throw a bunch of picks like Darnold will. It happens on a bad team. Bad teams will make good QBs look bad. Eli and maybe Darnold. But bad teams should never be an excuse for bad QB like Jones .
Give me a break. Lol.
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The Giants wound up missing the playoffs anyway, because the Eagles went in the tank that night. But Gallman was never the most reliable ball-handler anyway, and he came within a random bounce of ending the Giants’ season.
Right! That proved he was part of the sleeper cell injected by Jerrah into the Giants in order to destroy them from within. Either that or he was recruited by Garrett, the double agent, to be part of the destruction of the Giants franchise by rotting it from within or perhaps he was just Garrett's useful idiot.
No matter, Gallman was exposed by Giants counter-intelligence ops and summarily dismissed from the team despite his great talent.
Pictured Giants counter-intelligence operative:
OMG NOW thats funny....guilty as charged
BUT Garrett is gone now. Jerrahs team is tanking on cue
Maybe Garrett is up in Jerrys booth calling the plays for Dallas now LOL
Despite my ramblings (stuck over in Europe and retired)
I wish everyone on the Giants well and all our fans too
Perhaps the D continues to fly high, the WRs come back into play, and Barkley learns to simply follow his blockers
Maybe we will still be relevant by the Dallas game and beyond
He's an ordinary RB.
Give me a break. Lol.
Pretty sure everyone but you knows that Darkwa and Perkins weren't good. But hey, if you don't want to admit it feel free to keep taking shots, doesn't bother me in the least.
What are your thoughts on Wayne Gallman blowing ass in Atlanta? Or getting cut in San Fran? Are they in on it too to cover up our mistake?
Have a great day. Out.
Gallman gave us something we hadn't had since Bradshaw? Lol, you've outdone yourself. And that's a high bar!
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I’ve never seen so much ridiculous bullshit for such a mediocre player.
He sucked. They let him walk. Now he’s on different team where, guess what? He hasn’t done shit and still sucks.
Get the fuck over it already.
Shut up already. At least he had breakaway games. We have pleny of mediocre players people like you talk bullsit about...
1. Jones
2. Barkley
3. Gates
4. Lemiuex
Total jags. At least Gallman had some good games and could give you 5 years of 1 st down or just smash it in for a TD. have not had that since Ahmad Bradshaw played here 10 years ago!
You continue to be an embarrassing moron. Congrats. Did you order a Gallman jersey for Xmas?
But please, continue to tell us how great Gallman would be on the Giants.
Fucking clueless.
Have a great day. Out.
I didn’t insult anyone and you haven’t answer my question either, one I asked without insulting you.
In my very first post I answered the OPs question, in sum - Gallman isn’t good and since leaving he’s done nothing to prove the Giants wrong.
I mean, that complete and utter fucking moronic nonsense but, maybe if you say it enough times, it’ll be true!
I mean, that complete and utter fucking moronic nonsense but, maybe if you say it enough times, it’ll be true!
Also, the dipshit who is constantly ragging on Jones and refusing to even entertain the idea that the struggles of the offense can be multifactorial rather than solely the fault of Jones had the audacity to say "bad teams make good QBs look bad" in defense of Wilson.
Like...yeah, they do. So apply some of that logic to Jones who, in fairness, I don't believe is great and may not be good. But I would also wager looks worse than he is because his supporting cast BLOWS.
There is no point in attacking other posters for just expressing their opinions
Maybe,just maybe, we turned the corner and can go on a nice little run now
Our defense showed real effort Sunday. Now if Freddy can get the offense flying right we can still have a positive ending
Its at least interesting now...gotta beat Miami
Yeah, trolls and/or people with terrible takes can’t answer simple questions and then blame it on me as a defense mechanism.
The starting RBs since Bradshaw went to Indy were
Orleans Darkwa
Rashad Jennings
Andre Brown
and the generation RB future gold jacket Barkley
So now tell me Gallman is not better than those guys?
Dipshit #2
Firstly I could argue Jones would look even worse on a team like the LA Rams. Secondly, this team is not as bad as many here believe. Thirdly, I really don't believe Jones could even handle any pressure let alone playing behind a bad oline. To sum up ; multiple things can be true. Jones could be playing on a bad team and yes he could look better playing on a good team ; but that does not mean he is good. And who cares at this point? We're really going to fire Gettleman but keep his shit QB hanngin around ? [i[Why?[/]
But please, continue to tell us how great Gallman would be on the Giants.
Fucking clueless.
Meanwhile you can say the same thing about Brandon Jacobs. Went to the 9ers as a 3rd string back. He fit here with what they were doing.
But continue to tell us we should coontinue with Jones and not start another QB as the most moronic thing ever. Meanwhile we ahve Darnold benched and Cam Netwon too for that matter for jackson; Montana benched for Steve Young ; and Brees was benched for Doug Floutie but why shoudl we see what another QB could do besides his only TD throw is a seam route line drive throw or a little dump off. He stil cannot throw effectively inthe red zone/ throw TDs unless it is said passes.
A lot of QBs would not go along with alternating
I believe these 2 guys are mature enough to handle it
The only bad rap on Clement was fumbles and he didn’t show that in preseason.
That said, of all things to nitpick right now! That is like fuckup #88 on the DG top 100 blunders list.
That said, of all things to nitpick right now! That is like fuckup #88 on the DG top 100 blunders list.
Fuckup #88. now thats funny :0)
Did you listen to lawrence tynes podcast this week
He was laughing and incredulous that Barkley could run 12 times for only 8 Freeakingg YDs!!!!!!
Suggested puting Booker in the same backfield with The Generational Back.....I never thought of that one
I think Tynes was saying Mara and Gettleman would never take
Barkley off the field, so at least put a real RB with him to share the football....also Booker can BLOCK
The only bad rap on Clement was fumbles and he didn’t show that in preseason.
uhhhh i think he did fumble in pre-season....but yeah clement was a burner
whaaaaaaa he fumbled once last year???????? look it up
Barkley never fumbles, he curls up on the ground before 1st touch
Back ups to these guys are better than top 10 draft picks and it is really embarrassing. Mara and Gettle are hoping you don't pay attention and used car salesman Joey timeouts playing right along.
Bottom line is all these guys should go. Mara ; Gettle ; Joe Judge; Jones; Barkley. Instead you sent the cowboys double agent packing / Like that was problem #17 on this team compared to the others I just mentioned.
Gallman didn't fill the role they were looking for, which was a backup running back. He didn't block, he didn't catch much.
Booker is a guy who, if he comes in, you can basically keep calling the running game, whereass Galmman, although a better pure running back, line Barkley, wasn't particularly well rounded.
It's one thing to work around limitations with your starter if he does certain awesome things fairly often, it's another thing entirely to not have the personell to run a simple functional running attack, without making all kinds of compensatory adjustments because your backup can't block or catch.
Gallman is a good back. I liked him. I wish we could have kept him, yet I understand why they had to let him go. He took time to warm up. Booker you can just kinda parachute him in and he's ready to go. Nothing special, but he functions, consistently, and forces the opponent to honor the run, and THAT's what they wanted, needed, out of a backup QB, with Barkley as the starter. When healthy. They knew he wouldn't be, so they paid Booker, cause he could do what they needed to not have their playcalling options chopped to hell if and when Saquon goes down, or needs to be spelled. Wasn't a good fit in the minds of the coaches, at the time.
Gallman didn't fill the role they were looking for, which was a backup running back. He didn't block, he didn't catch much.
Booker is a guy who, if he comes in, you can basically keep calling the running game, whereass Galmman, although a better pure running back, line Barkley, wasn't particularly well rounded.
Took time to warm up?? Huh
When will Saquon be warmed up BTW. 2027?
He had 12 rushes for 8 yds last Sunday
Give me a break
It's one thing to work around limitations with your starter if he does certain awesome things fairly often, it's another thing entirely to not have the personell to run a simple functional running attack, without making all kinds of compensatory adjustments because your backup can't block or catch.
Gallman is a good back. I liked him. I wish we could have kept him, yet I understand why they had to let him go. He took time to warm up. Booker you can just kinda parachute him in and he's ready to go. Nothing special, but he functions, consistently, and forces the opponent to honor the run, and THAT's what they wanted, needed, out of a backup QB, with Barkley as the starter. When healthy. They knew he wouldn't be, so they paid Booker, cause he could do what they needed to not have their playcalling options chopped to hell if and when Saquon goes down, or needs to be spelled. Wasn't a good fit in the minds of the coaches, at the time.