that sums up where we are at.
Through 11 games we have allowed the second least amount of points in the NFC East (Philly actually has one more game under their belt), as Dallas has given up 250 and we have given up 253. However, we have scored the least amount of points overall in the division and are a -51 point differential.
Through 11 games we are giving up an average of 23 points per game and scoring an average of 18.36 points per game. The league average for points scored is around 23 points. * Our points against and point differential is a tad skewed as we gave up 80 plus points in two weeks- Cowboys and then Rams but our points for is just bad all around..
Even worse we are averaging 15.3 points per game over the last 3 games.
Regardless of anything else team wise, we do not score points with Jones at QB. We move the ball but we struggle mightily to get it in the endzone.
WFT has scored more points 229 but also given up more 282 for a -53 point differential. Their issue, at least early on, was their defense giving up a lot of points, including our biggest point day (29) in the week 2 loss. That loss, a game we should have won, is the reason WFT is now currently in the 7th spot for the NFC playoffs.
We have an historically bad Offense. It is a perfect storm of mediocrity. Injury prone skill players, mediocre coaching, below average talent at QB, below average Oline. There are no exceptions on this offense except my boy Andrew Thomas when healthy.
I think our defensive statistics got a decent sized boost from that effect last year (also we played a lot of backup QBs) and it inflated the expectations for this year. The Rams last year game is one example where I thought the opponent basically shut it down after getting a lead. We're also never in shootouts or winning in garbage time, which makes our D #s look better compared to the rest of the league.
By the way OP, I love how you mention the points differential is "skewed" because the Giants got their asses kicked in by two of the better NFC teams in the Cowboys and Rams. Definitely try and remove outliers like those before coming up with any conclusions...
By the way OP, I love how you mention the points differential is "skewed" because the Giants got their asses kicked in by two of the better NFC teams in the Cowboys and Rams. Definitely try and remove outliers like those before coming up with any conclusions...
My point to that was those two games actually make the points allowed average a bit higher even though we still are giving up less than most of the teams in the division and on par with the Cowboys. It isn't to prove our defense is better than it is just to point out without those two games being as off as they were, our defense would look to be even better number wise and our offense even worse considering.
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try to allow less. One of those should help and both would be super.
By the way OP, I love how you mention the points differential is "skewed" because the Giants got their asses kicked in by two of the better NFC teams in the Cowboys and Rams. Definitely try and remove outliers like those before coming up with any conclusions...
My point to that was those two games actually make the points allowed average a bit higher even though we still are giving up less than most of the teams in the division and on par with the Cowboys. It isn't to prove our defense is better than it is just to point out without those two games being as off as they were, our defense would look to be even better number wise and our offense even worse considering.
If you did the same thing to all the other teams and took away their two worst games, what do you think would happen?
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In comment 15473897 Jimmy Googs said:
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try to allow less. One of those should help and both would be super.
By the way OP, I love how you mention the points differential is "skewed" because the Giants got their asses kicked in by two of the better NFC teams in the Cowboys and Rams. Definitely try and remove outliers like those before coming up with any conclusions...
My point to that was those two games actually make the points allowed average a bit higher even though we still are giving up less than most of the teams in the division and on par with the Cowboys. It isn't to prove our defense is better than it is just to point out without those two games being as off as they were, our defense would look to be even better number wise and our offense even worse considering.
If you did the same thing to all the other teams and took away their two worst games, what do you think would happen?
Would also have to take away the 25-3 win the Giants had of we’re not counting outliers
The arguments are the why of it.
The reality is what was stated above, skill players that can't stay healthy, a bad OL, questionable playcalling, and the crux of all of the nightmarish discussions over and over and over again... the QB. Everyone on this site knows it's a combination of the above. The arguments are always about it being #1 on the QB.
It is 100% on OL issues first and foremost however, and has been since 2012. Gilbride complained about it as he was scapegoated, and it cost TC and Eli the latter portion of their careers here in blue. Even Shurmur, who got more out of the offense than MacAdoo, could NEVER generate enough ball control and/or points and/or 3rd down conversions when needed.
The coaching and scheme turnover has created havoc but the underlying cause of our offensive woes is 100% on lack of consistently even average OL play.
A man totally unsuited for his role as a starting RB
Put Barkley in the slot on 3rd downs and alternate Booker and Penny at RB and we will be on cruise control
Its not the QB