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Hilary : 11/30/2021 10:33 am
Chiefs with back - up O line scored 9 points in Super Bowl
Russel Wilson looked awful last night.
What do we expect of Daniel Jones behind this line?
The Giants need to use at least one of two first round picks and at least one of 3 round 2-3 picks on O line.

They are very foolish if they do not take a good look at Peart and Wilson before the draft. If neither of them can play 3-4 of first 5 picks need to be O line.
I heard Wilson was balling last night?????  
George from PA : 11/30/2021 10:39 am : link
Edge and OL are obvious needs....re-enforce DL and TE.

Modernize offense.....and build on defense .....(not tear it down and restart ....as it can not be week 10 before it starts dominating).
every QB  
djm : 11/30/2021 10:49 am : link
goes through stretches where their team doesn't score 28 PPG but Wilson and guys like Wilson don't stay down for too long. Even last night, yeah they scored under 20 but I wouldn't say Wilson played poorly. He led them down the field at the end didn't he?

Wilson will find his way back like he always does. He has a track record. The low scoring games show up but not as frequently as what we see from some of the lesser quality QBs.
I would try to trade down with 1 pick  
Platos : 11/30/2021 10:58 am : link
the first pick should be used on BPA out of the DE/OL class.

then try to trade down with the second 1st rounder.

then every pick between the 2nd and 4th round should be OL/LB/DE heavy with a TE and a punter mixed in

1st
1st (Bears)
2nd
3rd
3rd (Dolphins)
4th
4th (Bears)
5th

the next GM is going to have his work cut out for him. hopefully he doesn't answer Chris Mara's emails or player profiles.
RE: every QB  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 11/30/2021 11:09 am : link
In comment 15474027 djm said:
Quote:
goes through stretches where their team doesn't score 28 PPG but Wilson and guys like Wilson don't stay down for too long. Even last night, yeah they scored under 20 but I wouldn't say Wilson played poorly. He led them down the field at the end didn't he?

Wilson will find his way back like he always does. He has a track record. The low scoring games show up but not as frequently as what we see from some of the lesser quality QBs.


You wouldn't say Wilson played poorly? They went from around 4:20 left in the 2nd Quarter to almost midway through the 4th without getting a 1st down. He airmailed a bunch of throws during that time.

On the game tying drive, he took a HUGE sack instead of just throwing the ball away, wasting 25 seconds of clock. His last minute TD was more the result of Washington completely blowing a coverage and leaving a man wide open in the middle of the field rather than anything Wilson did on that play.

I love Russell Wilson. He doesn't get any help out there from his OLine or running game, but he was awful for most of last night.
RE: I would try to trade down with 1 pick  
Angel Eyes : 11/30/2021 11:10 am : link
In comment 15474050 Platos said:
Quote:
the first pick should be used on BPA out of the DE/OL class.

then try to trade down with the second 1st rounder.

then every pick between the 2nd and 4th round should be OL/LB/DE heavy with a TE and a punter mixed in

1st
1st (Bears)
2nd
3rd
3rd (Dolphins)
4th
4th (Bears)
5th

the next GM is going to have his work cut out for him. hopefully he doesn't answer Chris Mara's emails or player profiles.

I thought we don't have a second pick in the fourth round due to the Bredeson trade.
RE: RE: I would try to trade down with 1 pick  
Platos : 11/30/2021 12:11 pm : link
In comment 15474066 Angel Eyes said:
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In comment 15474050 Platos said:


Quote:


the first pick should be used on BPA out of the DE/OL class.

then try to trade down with the second 1st rounder.

then every pick between the 2nd and 4th round should be OL/LB/DE heavy with a TE and a punter mixed in

1st
1st (Bears)
2nd
3rd
3rd (Dolphins)
4th
4th (Bears)
5th

the next GM is going to have his work cut out for him. hopefully he doesn't answer Chris Mara's emails or player profiles.


I thought we don't have a second pick in the fourth round due to the Bredeson trade.


i copied an old list probably. we traded a 6th or 7th too right? i didn't include those because I wasn't sure.

a trade down with 1 of the 1st picks should net a few mid rounders though
the Giants have invested resources onto the OL  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 11/30/2021 12:15 pm : link
it's not like they've ignored the problem.

The issue is that their scouting and development of these players has been an issue for a decade, despite multiple coaching staffs. Atleast Thomas has shown some potential.

I'd have no problem with a good value OL pick in the 1st round, but I think the bigger issue is that this team needs to get better at identifying and coaching the OL talent.
I'm a Daniel Jones fan  
giantBCP : 11/30/2021 12:22 pm : link
but if we want to build a strong team, why would we devote resources to a unit that isn't performing? I would rather put more resources into a defense that is playing well and could take it up to an elite level with more talent.
RE: every QB  
joeinpa : 11/30/2021 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15474027 djm said:
[quote] goes through stretches where their team doesn't score 28 PPG but Wilson and guys like Wilson don't stay down for too long. Even last night, yeah they scored under 20 but I wouldn't say Wilson played poorly. He led them down the field at the end didn't he?

Wilson will find his way back like he always does. He has a track record. The low scoring games show up but not as frequently as what we see from some of the lesser quality QBs. [/quote

Wilson has. Great track record, he stunk last night, no spin can change that. 5 three and outs in a row! Are you kidding me.

He led them back at the end? I kind of remember an interception in the end-zone with game on line during the 2 pt conversion.

Someone posted yesterday. Jones ‘ mistakes and poor performances are just viewed in a different way by his critics from how other quarterbacks making similar mistakes are viewed
Some of you are so out of touch with reality  
pjcas18 : 11/30/2021 2:57 pm : link
it's amazing you can put a cogent thought together.

In no situation is it a *must* that 3-4 of the Giants first 5 picks have to be OL.

I am not saying I'm better than anyone, but sometimes I do feel like some of you deserve what we see on the field every week.

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