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NFT: Knicks @ Nets tonight TNT 730

nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 1:05 pm
Should be an interesting matchup, Knicks starting Burks and Rose should be back to stabilize the bench...

Nets are carried by KD who is simply the best player in the NBA not only with his scoring but his dishing and getting others involved has been spectacular..

Nets have been going more offensive starting lineup with Harden, Mills, KD, Bembry and Aldridge...Their defense isnt very good but Mills can light it up and Bembry is their dirty work guy...

KD going to get his 35 to 40, cant let the other guys go off to..

Should be a fun game
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Jeff Van Gundy always brings that up during telecasts.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 10:47 pm : link
Big guys get penalized for being big - Shaq used to get pounded too.
So basically Randle needs to flop  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 10:54 pm : link
Same shit happened to Melo
I do like how Thibs did the rotation tonight  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 11:08 pm : link
I liked how he basically rotated Burks, Fournier, Quick and Rose, They all played with each other it wasnt just bench and starters...

Everyone is a good fit with the other now..

I would of liked to see more Toppin and Randle together but hopefully the glut at center can be alleviated by the deadline
Knicks  
five5 : 11/30/2021 11:12 pm : link
Need to deal Mitch for Nurkic.
a lot of winnable games  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 11:19 pm : link
after these next 2..
Remember in “Moneyball”  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 11:33 pm : link
when Billy Beane traded all the possible first basemen on the roster so Art Howe would have no choice but to play Hatteberg? That’s what Leon needs to do with the centers so Obi is guaranteed more minutes. Harden and KD are out there and we’re scared of LaMarcus freaking Aldridge - let him shoot his midrange Js over Obi all night.
As good a scorer as Harden is...  
manh george : 12/1/2021 2:56 am : link
his explosion in the 1H would probably have been significantly less if Barrett were around to defend him at times.
Ticket question.  
Beezer : 12/1/2021 6:51 am : link
Been a while since I’ve had tickets we suddenly cannot use.

Is it completely forbidden to sell at a loss to BBIers here?

If so, what’s the best avenue? We’ve got them for sale on Ticketmaster.

21 rows behind the Knicks bench. 😊
RE: Ticket question.  
JayBinQueens : 12/1/2021 7:22 am : link
In comment 15475341 Beezer said:
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Been a while since I’ve had tickets we suddenly cannot use.

Is it completely forbidden to sell at a loss to BBIers here?

If so, what’s the best avenue? We’ve got them for sale on Ticketmaster.

21 rows behind the Knicks bench. 😊


I like the site TickPick
RE: Ticket question.  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 7:35 am : link
In comment 15475341 Beezer said:
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Been a while since I’ve had tickets we suddenly cannot use.

Is it completely forbidden to sell at a loss to BBIers here?

If so, what’s the best avenue? We’ve got them for sale on Ticketmaster.

21 rows behind the Knicks bench. 😊


pit it right back on ticketmaster
RE: RE: Ticket question.  
Beezer : 12/1/2021 7:53 am : link
In comment 15475356 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15475341 Beezer said:


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Been a while since I’ve had tickets we suddenly cannot use.

Is it completely forbidden to sell at a loss to BBIers here?

If so, what’s the best avenue? We’ve got them for sale on Ticketmaster.

21 rows behind the Knicks bench. 😊



pit it right back on ticketmaster


Yeah. We did. May drop the price. Gonna take a loss but … what can you do. Life.
day after thoughts  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 7:58 am : link
First off its nice to be in these big games and the Knicks actually are a good team, it was fun win or lose..

Second the officiating crew that did this game should be fined or suspended or relegated to doing detroit vs houston, how do you tell a player he is too strong and then you give Durant and Harden ticky tack calls all night? How does Scott Foster continue to get big games? its a joke, Nets won congrats to them but the officiating was a joke last night..

Julius randle played his best all around game this year, he shot well, moved the ball, played defense, rebounded, he played a great game. Id say he has to keep his emotions but lets be real id probably be tossed every game.

Alec Burks 25 5 and 5 good game, cant expect 25 every night but in the 4th you can expect him to show up, never looks like he is going to fast, i like this new starting lineup..

Fournier quiet night but hit 2 big 3s in the 3rd and huge 3 to tie it in the 4th..He has been taken it to the hoop more these past 2 games and i want him to do that more..

Rose is awesome, you can tell he loves these big games and jist loves being in the game at the end. He is not afraid of the moment and i think you can say that aboit most of the players but you can see him raising his game in big moments. I dont know if it was because Rj was sick but i liked the sub of Rose in for Rj with 6 minutes into the 1st and then Rj start the 2nd with the bench..

Quickley is just a good player, wasnt hot or anything but it doesnt matter once the 4th hits, he is all over the court, he is turning into a great player and a closer, him and rose off the bench is such a weapon..

Toppin needs to play more, there is nothing else to say, if Noel is not going to effect the defensive end he is useless and you need to go Toppin and Randle. Bigs cant stay with him and he is not hurting you defensively anymore. He should of finished this game..

Mitch played a good game, he fouled him at the end, im just surprised they called it and the refs completely ignored Aldridge holding Mitch so he couldnt rotate over faster and then shoved him into Johnson but what can you do?

Overally i think this team is about to start winning a lot of games, a lot of winnable games after these next 2 against the bulls and Denver...
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hitdog42 : 12/1/2021 8:14 am : link
when milsap took a charge and it was called a block-- should the officials have been relegated? (BTW milsap is toast as a player)

i mean come on man at some point maybe just watch the game? stop whiniing?--- the nets took their season average on FTs. Randle took 3 less then his average--- and gave the nets 1 on a tech.


RE: day after thoughts  
Stu11 : 12/1/2021 8:18 am : link
In comment 15475371 nygiants16 said:
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Mitch played a good game, he fouled him at the end, im just surprised they called it and the refs completely ignored Aldridge holding Mitch so he couldnt rotate over faster and then shoved him into Johnson but what can you do?

Overally i think this team is about to start winning a lot of games, a lot of winnable games after these next 2 against the bulls and Denver...

Scal and Isola looked at a replay of the last play this morning. Forget the shove, they counted,Aldridge was literally in the paint for 7 seconds. Now of course nobody is expecting a 3 second call there, but 7 seconds??? I know it's not remotely in the same stratosphere but having reffed HS ball for 20 years, in that spot at like 4 or 5 seconds I'd warn the guy let's go keep moving. At 6 or 7 I'm banging him I don't care the situation. That's not "letting the players decide the game" that's deciding not to enforce the rules of the game...
RE: 16  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:26 am : link
In comment 15475376 hitdog42 said:
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when milsap took a charge and it was called a block-- should the officials have been relegated? (BTW milsap is toast as a player)

i mean come on man at some point maybe just watch the game? stop whiniing?--- the nets took their season average on FTs. Randle took 3 less then his average--- and gave the nets 1 on a tech.



you mean the the plays where he slid into the offensive player? or the one he was in the restricted area still moving?

so 25 to 12 free throws is an evenly officiated game? and dont say the Nets attwcked, the Knicks and Randle were attwcking the rim all night..

When an official tells a player he is to strong to get foul calls you know some BS happened..

Dont tell me to watch the games, you know damn well i do and i know what im watching dont disrespect me like that..

The nets won congrats but the officiating was horrible and uneven, you want to call ticky tack shit fine, but do it both ways
you whine  
hitdog42 : 12/1/2021 8:32 am : link
in every game thread- from the opening tip.
the nets shot their average. the nets average is in line with 10 other team averages. there was nothing odd about how the nets were officiated.
if you wanted 2 more fouls at random times of the game to feel better--- 2 FTs when they were down 14 --- would that make you feel better?

looking at every call for the knicks as GOOD CALL--- every non call CORRUPT--- every call against knicks ITS SCOTT FOSTER ITS HAYWOOD WORKMAN OMFG.

give it a fking rest.
OMG RANDLE SAID A REF SAID ---- do you know the sh$t they say to harden all year when they go out of their way to not call fouls that are blatant? and really who cares--- i don't.

THE NETS GOT THEIR SEASON AVERAGE CALLED LAST NIGHT
RE: you whine  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:37 am : link
In comment 15475387 hitdog42 said:
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in every game thread- from the opening tip.
the nets shot their average. the nets average is in line with 10 other team averages. there was nothing odd about how the nets were officiated.
if you wanted 2 more fouls at random times of the game to feel better--- 2 FTs when they were down 14 --- would that make you feel better?

looking at every call for the knicks as GOOD CALL--- every non call CORRUPT--- every call against knicks ITS SCOTT FOSTER ITS HAYWOOD WORKMAN OMFG.

give it a fking rest.
OMG RANDLE SAID A REF SAID ---- do you know the sh$t they say to harden all year when they go out of their way to not call fouls that are blatant? and really who cares--- i don't.

THE NETS GOT THEIR SEASON AVERAGE CALLED LAST NIGHT


Then dont respond...

Dont come at me saying i dont watch the games or dont know ehat i am talking about..

So because the Nets got their average it was a correctly called game and an evenly officiated game? got it, great analysis..

If i see a blatantly missed call yeah i am going tl say something and guess what i am not the only one saying something..
I can come up with a bunch of examples of missed calls  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:38 am : link
your only analysis is they shot their average so there is nothing wrong..

If you actually read what i wrote and stop being a bitch, i said i have no problem calling ticky tack fouls but call it both ways..

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FOULS THEY CALLED ON THE KNICKS, ITS ABOUT CALLING IT EVEN...
my analysis  
hitdog42 : 12/1/2021 8:50 am : link
is i watched the game.
there were zero whistles in the 3rd quarter.
the 4th the knicks and nets went back and fourth- in the end the knicks tied it up- and then they committed a clear foul--- they also got a tech at a very immature time.
the game ended-

first half- harden dominant
mid 3rd- 4th- knicks found rhythm- harden cooled off-

Durant clutch in end- ended a 1 possession game in a good game.

game was not whistle heavy-
RE: my analysis  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:54 am : link
In comment 15475408 hitdog42 said:
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is i watched the game.
there were zero whistles in the 3rd quarter.
the 4th the knicks and nets went back and fourth- in the end the knicks tied it up- and then they committed a clear foul--- they also got a tech at a very immature time.
the game ended-

first half- harden dominant
mid 3rd- 4th- knicks found rhythm- harden cooled off-

Durant clutch in end- ended a 1 possession game in a good game.

game was not whistle heavy-


got it, you think the officiating was fine last night, Nets won, they have Durant and Harden and they won, knicks lost..

Not saying the Nets didnt deserve to win..

But that doesnt mean the officials didnt miss blatant calls late in the game
TNT  
TyreeHelmet : 12/1/2021 8:55 am : link
Does such a great job but Reggie Miller might be the worst analyst in sports. He is clueless. He had no idea what he was talking about. Just consistently lost.

Really fun game. I know there were some bad whistles but Randle can't lose his cool like that. Liked that 5 man of Obi, Randle, Rose, Burks, IQ.
RE: TNT  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:58 am : link
In comment 15475418 TyreeHelmet said:
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Does such a great job but Reggie Miller might be the worst analyst in sports. He is clueless. He had no idea what he was talking about. Just consistently lost.

Really fun game. I know there were some bad whistles but Randle can't lose his cool like that. Liked that 5 man of Obi, Randle, Rose, Burks, IQ.


Stupid tech and he took a stupid foul on KD at halfcourt when the Knicks went up 2 with i think like 4 minutes left
I’m not going to blame  
GMEN46 : 12/1/2021 9:01 am : link
The refs for the loss. Knicks lost end of story. Randle cannot get a tech there, I don’t care how upset you are. Unless Kyrie comes back there is no way the nets are winning a championship. Besides durant and harden that roster is horrible. The Knicks aren’t winning a championship in the next few years, but they are trending in the right direction. The nets have a 2-3 year window assuming harden resigns. Nothing would make me happier to see the nets fall short these next 2-3 years as the Knicks will start to move to the top of the league as their younger guys get better and they will eventually get the missing piece. They are a superstar wing/SG away from being a legit contender.

Still think the Brooookkkllllyyynnnn chant is the worst team chant in tthe history of professional sports. And I still to this day have never met a nets fan in person. Do they exist?
i really hate  
hitdog42 : 12/1/2021 9:05 am : link
having to root for paul milsap/griffin- painful old washed dues.

nets need claxton back- to play cam thomas more --- its really not a great team to watch--- prefer to watch the cavs lol.
I have to say  
aimrocky : 12/1/2021 9:09 am : link
I'm loving how the officials are eating the whistle more this year, and I'm a Knick fan.
RE: I’m not going to blame  
JayBinQueens : 12/1/2021 9:10 am : link
In comment 15475426 GMEN46 said:
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And I still to this day have never met a nets fan in person. Do they exist?


Good one. Maybe try leaving your mom's basement?

Nets fans exist  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:13 am : link
and i have always said the nrts fans on here except for Kentgraham, are really loyal and diehards...there may not be a lot but there are some diehards
Bottom line, there were some bullshit calls.  
Beezer : 12/1/2021 9:32 am : link
I didn't take notes, but I'd estimate 5-6 times the Knicks were tagged, it was a clear WTF moment for me.

On the other end, I recall 2 no-calls going the other way.

Fouls aren't always going to be even. But last night there were some BS moments.

And if an official said that to Randle, that's a suspendable offense, IMO. You shouldn't call games that way, but more egregious? To actually say it to a player, or anyone.
RE: i really hate  
bceagle05 : 12/1/2021 9:43 am : link
In comment 15475429 hitdog42 said:
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having to root for paul milsap/griffin- painful old washed dues.

I was so annoyed when Milsap was trapped and somehow made that ridiculous baseline bounce pass to Jackson for the corner three - I was like how did that washed up guy make a play like that? That was a killer for the Knicks.
RE: Nets fans exist  
Essex : 12/1/2021 9:47 am : link
In comment 15475440 nygiants16 said:
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and i have always said the nrts fans on here except for Kentgraham, are really loyal and diehards...there may not be a lot but there are some diehards

I grew up a Knicks fan, but we live in Park Slope Brooklyn. Like a lot of areas in NYC, it really a neighborhood filled with more people from outside the tri state area than from in it (I grew up in NJ). They have all decided to relocate to NYC and do not want the suburbs, so its just a lot of people from a lot of different cities. In any event, with every sport, be it football, baseball, hockey, colleges etc--the rooting interests are all over the place. The one sport where there is only one team is the NBA and its the Nets. And, this phenomenon has been around longer than the Kyrie, Durant, Harden days. Now these are not diehard fans, but they are growing into it. My kids are diehard Nets fans. I would imagine many of these supporters did not grow up Nets fans, but it is astonishing to see the civic pride in the Nets and how it is growing a fanbase (at least in Brooklyn).
No revenge game for Rivers on Saturday  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:50 am : link
he is in health and safety protocols, a thin team becomes even thinner
The Nets won and the refs didn't hand it to them  
Stu11 : 12/1/2021 10:30 am : link
As expected Durant was superb down the stretch (pathetic missed dunk aside). I just think a bunch of us have followed this team for 3-4 decades or more and have dealt with always losing to another superstar
We all know it's a star run league, and the superstars get the calls. It just would be nice if for once we had one of those guys after all these years. It's not owed to us, and it's mainly due to management gross ineptitude you get what you get and deal with it. It's just our frustration boils over at times. You can call it jealousy, envy, frustration whatever. On what Randle said I'd have to hear the official's side of the story. I'm betting something was lost in translation or context.
I think Durant is a sensational player  
NoGainDayne : 12/1/2021 10:35 am : link
but we made a real bad choice putting Randle on him down the stretch. He was getting to the rim at will. You live with the 3 with him and hope he misses try to limit his daylight.

Those drives were way too easy at the end. Honestly, i'd have strongly preferred Obi on him, or Burks, get Grimes in on Harden maybe.

Huge mistake to let Durant get to the rim like that. He's going to finish or basically hit automatic free throws. Even at the clip he hits 3's those are the lower % shots.
If they were eating the whistle  
Carl in CT : 12/1/2021 10:48 am : link
Then don’t call that on Robinson when it was a clear block. Rose did touch Durant. If you call it that soft then Randle gets killed everytime he has the ball with no whistle. Durant should be embarassed after that call and missing a bunny.
RE: I think Durant is a sensational player  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 10:51 am : link
In comment 15475530 NoGainDayne said:
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but we made a real bad choice putting Randle on him down the stretch. He was getting to the rim at will. You live with the 3 with him and hope he misses try to limit his daylight.

Those drives were way too easy at the end. Honestly, i'd have strongly preferred Obi on him, or Burks, get Grimes in on Harden maybe.

Huge mistake to let Durant get to the rim like that. He's going to finish or basically hit automatic free throws. Even at the clip he hits 3's those are the lower % shots.


Randle was palying durant tough all game, you dont switch that strategy at the end..Durant hit some tough shots but Randle was in his face most of the night
Yep totally agree Randle played him all game  
Stu11 : 12/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
And did a pretty damn good job until the last 5 minutes or so. Listen Durant is near impossible to guard. The last 3 or 4 minutes of a game he's gonna get aggressive and not settle for 3's no matter what you do. The best way to seal.with him is not have it be a close game. None of the guys you mentioned would have guarded him any better.
Forget the officiating or what Harden did in the 1st half  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 12:18 pm : link
If Kbicks just come out any better than they did in the 3rd the Kbicks may win this easy, maybe they dont go on that 11-0 run to cut it to 4 to end the 3rd but they have to get the 3rd better...

They had a great 3rd against the Hawks and ended up winning by 12..

Rose, Quick, Burks, Randle and Mitch has been a good closing unit
RE: Remember in “Moneyball”  
Vanzetti : 12/1/2021 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15475302 bceagle05 said:
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when Billy Beane traded all the possible first basemen on the roster so Art Howe would have no choice but to play Hatteberg? That’s what Leon needs to do with the centers so Obi is guaranteed more minutes. Harden and KD are out there and we’re scared of LaMarcus freaking Aldridge - let him shoot his midrange Js over Obi all night.


LOL. But that was Hollywood fantasy. Art Howe did exactly what Beane told him. Art was not making the lineups BB and Depo were.
NBA really brought down the hammer  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/1/2021 12:31 pm : link
On Heat & Bulls. Haha.
Not taking away what he did the whole game  
NoGainDayne : 12/1/2021 12:48 pm : link
just he kept getting beat at the end. Would have liked to see an adjustment...
RE: NBA really brought down the hammer  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15475771 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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On Heat & Bulls. Haha.


NBA actually thibks this is going to stop tamoering?

Guaranteed there 3 or 4 stars talking to other players or teams right now, they dont think Fox is already trying to figure out his exit from sacramento?

How about zbrown or Tatum out of Boston?

I mean this happens every single day
No Coby White Tomorrow  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 1:10 pm : link
their bench gets a little thinner but Donavon leaves Derozan or Lavinr on the floor at all times
Bam Adebayo out 4 to 6 weeks  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 3:22 pm : link
..
In man cave watching Wolves Wiz.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/1/2021 8:22 pm : link
Man...Wolves have come on.
Nuggets just lost to Orlando  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:28 pm : link
They are struggiling with a lot of injuries
I also predict  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:36 pm : link
the Pacers will be last years magic at the deadline, they will trade off pieces and go into rebuild mode
RE: I also predict  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2021 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15476369 nygiants16 said:
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the Pacers will be last years magic at the deadline, they will trade off pieces and go into rebuild mode


Brogdon - make it happen, Leon!
nba officiating is so bad  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:48 pm : link
Duarte was on a fastbreak, Huerter oulls him down by his jersey, blatant, no call on the play Hawks in, this happened with 3 seconds left pacers down 1..
Not enjoying this at all  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/1/2021 9:56 pm : link

Cleveland Cavaliers
111

Miami Heat
85

Duncan Robinson tonight:

0 points
0 rebounds
0 assists
0/7 FG
0/6 3PT
RE: Nets fans exist  
KentGraham : 12/2/2021 1:25 pm : link
In comment 15475440 nygiants16 said:
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and i have always said the nrts fans on here except for Kentgraham, are really loyal and diehards...there may not be a lot but there are some diehards


Lol, you don’t need to like me or my style, but not loyal or a diehard?
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