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NFT: Knicks @ Nets tonight TNT 730

nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 1:05 pm
Should be an interesting matchup, Knicks starting Burks and Rose should be back to stabilize the bench...

Nets are carried by KD who is simply the best player in the NBA not only with his scoring but his dishing and getting others involved has been spectacular..

Nets have been going more offensive starting lineup with Harden, Mills, KD, Bembry and Aldridge...Their defense isnt very good but Mills can light it up and Bembry is their dirty work guy...

KD going to get his 35 to 40, cant let the other guys go off to..

Should be a fun game
Ugg I may have to miss this one.  
Mike from SI : 11/30/2021 1:18 pm : link
I will ignore all your in-game posts 16, lol.
Brace yourselves  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 1:18 pm : link
for Reggie Miller on TNT.
I think Harden  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 11/30/2021 1:23 pm : link
has a classic Harden game in this one.

I'm really rooting for Randle to get back to his form from last year. Maybe a big game here is the spark he needs.

I literally started a thread about 2-3 weeks ago saying I thought KD was the best player in the NBA. Gun to my head, I'd still probably go with him. But Steph Curry is an absolute monster and easily has an argument as the best in the league. Just mind-blowing how loaded those Warriors were.
Rose and Burks in place of Kemba and Fournier?  
robbieballs2003 : 11/30/2021 2:11 pm : link
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RE: Rose and Burks in place of Kemba and Fournier?  
adamg : 11/30/2021 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15474420 robbieballs2003 said:
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Rose off the bench. Fournier is still starting. Have to read 16 carefully. :)
Please no political BS but this is the best parody account on Twitter  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 2:20 pm : link
@Dolan_J_Trump
If I’m going to BUILD around WALL, then Houston is going to pay for it!
My bad thought it was clear  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 2:21 pm : link
according to Jordan Schultz 3 teams have already inquired on a trade for Kemba
Mitch questionable non covid illness  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 2:23 pm : link
Noel and Gibson already questionable, Nets play small, id start Obi and make Aldridge chase him around the court if all 3 are out
RE: RE: Rose and Burks in place of Kemba and Fournier?  
robbieballs2003 : 11/30/2021 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15474434 adamg said:
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In comment 15474420 robbieballs2003 said:


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Rose off the bench. Fournier is still starting. Have to read 16 carefully. :)


Yeah, I read that too fast. That's why I was like huh?
RE: My bad thought it was clear  
Heisenberg : 11/30/2021 2:26 pm : link
In comment 15474441 nygiants16 said:
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according to Jordan Schultz 3 teams have already inquired on a trade for Kemba


The Knicks managed to trade Dennis Smith for Rose lol. If they want to trade Kemba they certainly can. I'd suspect that if he's really out for good, they will help him find a landing spot where he can play.
The Knicks have got to find a way to get Obi more minutes  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2021 2:27 pm : link
He is playing so well this year.
I am hopeful the Kemba move jump  
larryflower37 : 11/30/2021 2:37 pm : link
starts the starters.
Burks is not my first choice for a PG but that's what we are left with.
I expect we will see a lot of Randle handling the ball which can be a disaster if he starts his ISO ball.
At what point does Thibs go to Rose with the starters and Quickley with the 2nd team?
I mean it just needs to happen at least to see if it works. I was really excited for this season and it feels in disarray that will end poorly. I hope I am wrong.
RE: The Knicks have got to find a way to get Obi more minutes  
adamg : 11/30/2021 2:37 pm : link
In comment 15474450 Greg from LI said:
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He is playing so well this year.


#FreeObi

Small ball with Randle is fun to watch.
RE: The Knicks have got to find a way to get Obi more minutes  
Heisenberg : 11/30/2021 2:40 pm : link
In comment 15474450 Greg from LI said:
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He is playing so well this year.


Well, I have some news then. Looks like Mitch, Taj and Noel all won't play. Will get some Jericho and Obi at the 5 tonight, I'd guess.
Sucks about Kemba but these homecomings rarely end well  
Anakim : 11/30/2021 2:42 pm : link
See Shattenkirk, Kevin
I saw somewhere  
JohninSC : 11/30/2021 2:48 pm : link
"It went from 'Come Home Kemba' to 'Stay Home Kemba' real fast".
RE: I am hopeful the Kemba move jump  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 2:52 pm : link
In comment 15474463 larryflower37 said:
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starts the starters.
Burks is not my first choice for a PG but that's what we are left with.
I expect we will see a lot of Randle handling the ball which can be a disaster if he starts his ISO ball.
At what point does Thibs go to Rose with the starters and Quickley with the 2nd team?
I mean it just needs to happen at least to see if it works. I was really excited for this season and it feels in disarray that will end poorly. I hope I am wrong.


I dont think you will see Rose or Quick start this year unless there are injuries..

I think Quick could be the starter next year if the Kbicks dont trade for a point guard..

I like Burks with the starters, he doesnt need the ball to be effective, he can play catch and shoot or run pick and roll, he defends, rebounds, he is a good fit...Is he going to control the offense? no bit he can handle the point for the 12 to 15 minutes hr is on the court without quick or Rose....

Randle has rrally been moving the ball well lately, he hasnt been forcing to much, with the starters he doesnt habe to shoot a lot..
RE: Sucks about Kemba but these homecomings rarely end well  
Mike from SI : 11/30/2021 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15474469 Anakim said:
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See Shattenkirk, Kevin


See also Noah, Joakim.
Wth several teams apparently showing interest....  
manh george : 11/30/2021 3:50 pm : link
I wonder what the Knicks could get for Kemba.

It feels to me like a high second round, with the Knicks paying a big chunk of the salary, or the other team doing a salary dump in exchange.

Thoughts?

Also, McBride has been having very nice games with Westchester. I wonder if the Knicks leave Quickley at the backup two, and give McBride some time as the third PG, especially against points that are a quickness challenge for Burks.

"McBride made 11 of his 25 attempts from the field - including 5-of-12 from 3-point range - with six rebounds, five assists, three steals and a blocked shot in 41 minutes. He scored 25 with five rebounds and nine assists in his only other game for Westchester."
RE: Brace yourselves  
adamg : 11/30/2021 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15474330 bceagle05 said:
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for Reggie Miller on TNT.


He's the worst
Could Kemba and Knox  
SuperRonJohnson : 11/30/2021 6:28 pm : link
both be on the way out of town?
everyone available tonight  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 6:29 pm : link
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I just heard Jerhico is out.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/30/2021 6:33 pm : link
Who else isn't playing. Someone mentioned Mitch, Taj, and Noel are possibly not playing either.
RE: I just heard Jerhico is out.  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15474851 robbieballs2003 said:
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Who else isn't playing. Someone mentioned Mitch, Taj, and Noel are possibly not playing either.


all active
Good  
robbieballs2003 : 11/30/2021 6:38 pm : link
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Lebron is out with possibly Lecovid  
bubba0825 : 11/30/2021 6:56 pm : link
Sucks for the lakers
It'd be nice to get a W tonight.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 6:58 pm : link
The Nets are damn good & it'd be a good win. Hoping to see more Obi tonight. As for Kemba...it sucks. Helluva career, but it is over.
Nets wearing New Jersey uniforms  
dpinzow : 11/30/2021 7:38 pm : link
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If Harden is shooting step back 3s all game  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 7:39 pm : link
ill take it
RE: Nets wearing New Jersey uniforms  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15474985 dpinzow said:
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Those are sweet unis.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 7:44 pm : link
Nice start. KD super quiet.
here we go with the ticky tack shit for harden  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 7:45 pm : link
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Of course Porky Harden finds his stroke vs the Knicks  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 7:46 pm : link
And getting his ticky tack foul calls too.
Ugh, Harden.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 7:46 pm : link
Couldn’t loaf his way through one more I guess.
Harden.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 7:47 pm : link
Ugh.
here w go with the bs  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 7:48 pm : link
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My god Noel kills everything in the paint  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 7:49 pm : link
literally just standing under the basket not moving
Noel...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 7:50 pm : link
Come on.
RE: Noel...  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 7:52 pm : link
In comment 15475011 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Come on.

“BuT We NeEd RiM PrOtEcTiOn At CeNtEr.” - Thibs
get noel out  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 7:57 pm : link
he literally juat got in Burks way on offense, he doesnt move
Teammates must hate when Randle pounds the ball  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 7:57 pm : link
and gives them some crappy pass with the shot clock about to expire.
Randle  
jmalls23 : 11/30/2021 7:58 pm : link
started fine but why is he always at the top of the key. signature post move at the key. get down low
noel is killing them  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 8:01 pm : link
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Nerlens sucks.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 8:01 pm : link
Good Lord.
Down almost double digits.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 8:02 pm : link
And KD has scored what, 2 points?
RE: Teammates must hate when Randle pounds the ball  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 8:02 pm : link
In comment 15475026 bceagle05 said:
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and gives them some crappy pass with the shot clock about to expire.


to be fair that was on Noel, kills spacing
Obi & D-Rose...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 8:05 pm : link
Need to play more.
no defense on harden guys  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 8:06 pm : link
what a joke and not surprised scott foster is the official
D-Rose.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 8:08 pm : link
Man. This dude better get Sixth Man of the Year love.
Missed ya, DRose.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 8:08 pm : link
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...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 8:09 pm : link
Is D-Rose the best player on this team?

(Ducking!)
RE: ...  
Mike in NJ : 11/30/2021 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15475061 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Is D-Rose the best player on this team?

(Ducking!)


No, Obi Toppin is.
Obi back to playing 10 minutes a night  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 8:12 pm : link
now that all the shitty centers are healthy again.
If they gave Harden THAT call  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 8:14 pm : link
I was turning this off.
Love Randles first half  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 8:28 pm : link
great defense and letting the game come to him
I just can’t stand Fournier  
Earl the goat : 11/30/2021 8:31 pm : link
Does nothing but shoot 3’s
When he’s off he kills this team
Grimes Grimes and more Grimes please
Harden had his best half of the season  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 8:33 pm : link
and knicks up 1 ill take it..

Randle playing great d on Durant..

Does Thibs go with Quick to start second or Rose?
Love that last call porky got  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 8:37 pm : link
Fall over and roll into the lane like a tootsie roll and get the call...
RE: Harden had his best half of the season  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15475103 nygiants16 said:
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and knicks up 1 ill take it..

Randle playing great d on Durant..

Does Thibs go with Quick to start second or Rose?


Also, KD did nothing so...
RE: RE: Harden had his best half of the season  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 8:44 pm : link
In comment 15475115 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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and knicks up 1 ill take it..

Randle playing great d on Durant..

Does Thibs go with Quick to start second or Rose?



Also, KD did nothing so...

yep that's the problem. You know Durant is gonna get his and there's no reason Porky can't roll in another 20 in the 2nd half the way he's on tonight.
RE: RE: Harden had his best half of the season  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 8:44 pm : link
In comment 15475115 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15475103 nygiants16 said:


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and knicks up 1 ill take it..

Randle playing great d on Durant..

Does Thibs go with Quick to start second or Rose?



Also, KD did nothing so...


Because Harden was basically dominating the ball the entire time he was in
Harden had 28  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 8:45 pm : link
only 2 assists
Lol Burks gets clobbared no call  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 8:47 pm : link
if thats Harden its probably a flagrant
Knicks 1st unit flat out can't win a track meet with the Nets  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 8:48 pm : link
They have to play better transition D.
Imploding  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2021 8:51 pm : link
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Fucking fat tootsie roll  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 8:52 pm : link
decided to play hard tonight
No 3 second violation on Aldridge?  
CooperDash : 11/30/2021 8:56 pm : link
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lol what foul?  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:00 pm : link
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I fucking hate  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 9:01 pm : link
the Nets.
Hey Thibs  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:02 pm : link
how about we go Randle and Toppin and make the slow ass Aldridge chase him?
Nice of Reggie Miller  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 9:02 pm : link
to give Harden that pre-game pep talk. Sawed-off prick is the gift that keeps on giving.
Noel where are you backing up to?  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:03 pm : link
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Except for the Atlanta game it's been a month of 3rd quaters  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 9:03 pm : link
Like this. Fucking ponderous man.
Durant’s mother looks ten years younger than him  
steve in ky : 11/30/2021 9:04 pm : link
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Burk experiment worked for one game  
Vanzetti : 11/30/2021 9:04 pm : link
Now Alec throwing up shots like he is Michael Jordoon.

Having Grimes start the third--a truly brilliant move by Thibs.

Lol Kd shoves Burks  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:06 pm : link
and complains about flopping? lol you see who your teammate is
obi Toppin  
jmalls23 : 11/30/2021 9:06 pm : link
Has 5 minutes logged
that was fucking stupid  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:10 pm : link
what are you doing Randle?
Give me a break  
CooperDash : 11/30/2021 9:10 pm : link
The Nets him playing super physical all quarter and they are going to call that on Randle?
RE: obi Toppin  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15475153 jmalls23 said:
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Has 5 minutes logged

Obi is gonna be Thibs’ downfall someday soon.
Lol what the hell is Spike wearing?  
CooperDash : 11/30/2021 9:13 pm : link
So bright!
KD/Harden will probably be too much for us in the fourth  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 9:14 pm : link
but things are looking up for the Knicks - these performances against Brooklyn and Atlanta have been excellent for the most part. Pretty clear Kemba was killing us.
Randle  
jmalls23 : 11/30/2021 9:15 pm : link
When he drives he is a force. He should never be at the key
RE: RE: obi Toppin  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:15 pm : link
In comment 15475160 bceagle05 said:
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Has 5 minutes logged


Obi is gonna be Thibs’ downfall someday soon.


Thibs is matching Randle with Durant, but he should definitely be going small more
RE: RE: obi Toppin  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 9:16 pm : link
In comment 15475160 bceagle05 said:
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Has 5 minutes logged


Obi is gonna be Thibs’ downfall someday soon.

Noel has been less than useless out there tonight. That last run was despite him. Obi needs to fucking play.
Alec Jordan taking over.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 9:24 pm : link
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Horrific challenge  
GNewGiants : 11/30/2021 9:30 pm : link
By Thibs.

Yikes.
Sooo lemme get this straight...  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 9:32 pm : link
Quickly get tackled and held down and no call but that's a foul????
I thought refs werent calling ticky tack stuff?  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:33 pm : link
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RE: Horrific challenge  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15475180 GNewGiants said:
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By Thibs.

Yikes.

Meh it will get upheld, but all it costs you is a timeout. It was a complete joke of a call though
Its amazing  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:38 pm : link
Harden flops and gets the call, Randle goes strong, same contact and no call..

not surprising Scott Foster getting tricked
Rose passes wide open 3  
GNewGiants : 11/30/2021 9:40 pm : link
To give burks a look.

Winning basketball.
James Johnson jist shoulder blocks on the pick  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:43 pm : link
of course no call and now they t up Randle..

Officiating is such a joke
Technical?  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 9:43 pm : link
Swallow the whistle, ref.
Selfish of randle  
GMEN46 : 11/30/2021 9:43 pm : link
May ha we just cost the knicks the game
RE: Technical?  
dpinzow : 11/30/2021 9:43 pm : link
In comment 15475197 bceagle05 said:
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Swallow the whistle, ref.


Harden swiped down on Randle's arm on the last shot, and they didn't call anything
Broookkklllyyynnn chant  
GMEN46 : 11/30/2021 9:46 pm : link
Has to be the worst team chant in the history of any professional sport
RE: Selfish of randle  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15475198 GMEN46 said:
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May ha we just cost the knicks the game


he is getting hacked everytime..
Harden jist blatantly traveked  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:46 pm : link
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Nygiants  
GMEN46 : 11/30/2021 9:47 pm : link
Don’t care you don’t get techs under 2 minutes should be a tie game right now
It’s really just indisputable  
CooperDash : 11/30/2021 9:47 pm : link
We’ve all seen the ticky tack calls on Durant and Harden down the stretch and the plays where the Knicks take a ton of contact with no call.

You can’t really argue it. It decides games. Not the BS the technical they called against Randle.
I guess that’s a foul?  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 9:48 pm : link
Who the fuck knows.
RE: Nygiants  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15475206 GMEN46 said:
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Don’t care you don’t get techs under 2 minutes should be a tie game right now


Maybe the refs should admit they missed the call and swallow their whistle..

you think if that is KD or Harden they call that tech?
Here we go.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 9:50 pm : link
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Fournier!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 9:51 pm : link
!
I always marvel at players coming in cold  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 9:51 pm : link
and knocking down shots like that. Clutch.
RE: I always marvel at players coming in cold  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15475213 bceagle05 said:
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and knocking down shots like that. Clutch.


thats a hell of a shot
Hardens defense as good as ever  
GNewGiants : 11/30/2021 9:52 pm : link
Lol
of course they call a foul  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:54 pm : link
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What a joke  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2021 9:54 pm : link
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There’s no way in hell they call that foul for the Knicks  
CooperDash : 11/30/2021 9:55 pm : link
in the same situation
BS.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 9:56 pm : link
Fuck the Nets.
Randle in the refs' face  
Del Shofner : 11/30/2021 9:56 pm : link
good for him
refs sucked off the nets all night  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 9:57 pm : link
12 free throws to 25, what a joke
Robinson  
Ron Johnson : 11/30/2021 9:57 pm : link
Is just not a smart player
Corrupt officiating is one of many reasons to despise this league  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2021 9:57 pm : link
I love basketball, love the Knicks, but the NBA is a disgrace
Similar to last year’s heartbreaker in Brooklyn.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 9:58 pm : link
Woulda been nice to get that one.
RE: Corrupt officiating is one of many reasons to despise this league  
BigBlueDent : 11/30/2021 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15475226 Greg from LI said:
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I love basketball, love the Knicks, but the NBA is a disgrace


Amen. Well said. Durant whiffing a dunk, that garbage call on Rose that was upheld on the challenge, absolute farce
Stinks the nets won  
GMEN46 : 11/30/2021 9:59 pm : link
No one cares, they don’t deserve to have a good team. I’m happy to not have irving and even harden, durant is so good though. Great game to watch though.
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jrapps : 11/30/2021 10:00 pm : link
Fun game. Randle is a 2 or 3 at best on the team we need to field. He just doesn’t have it to be the man down the stretch.
Fuck I hate losing games like that!  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 10:01 pm : link
Team played hard though. The last play was a clear foul but the whistles the rest of the game were a complete joke. now that Kemba is out of the rotation Noel needs to follow. Obi needs to play. He played 11 minutes tonight, that's a disgrace.
Fuckin crooked refs  
Anakim : 11/30/2021 10:03 pm : link
Fuck them and fuck the Nets
I know Wizards  
GMEN46 : 11/30/2021 10:03 pm : link
Aren’t trading bradley beal, but just curious if Beal was on this team instead of barrett, could Knicks compete with anyone in the east?
Excellent performances by the Knicks against Atlanta and Brooklyn.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 10:03 pm : link
I think we’re gonna start stacking some wins.
Loved how this team played though  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 10:04 pm : link
when toe to toe with probably the best team in the east, got down 16 and didnt fold, fought right back..i like the tighter rotation..

Knicks are big and athletic with goood 3 point shooters, they need a star but they will be tough to beat..

Team has a bunch of guys that likes tough games
We out rebounded them, had more 2nd chance points  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 10:05 pm : link
And out scored them in the paint so please explain to me how that translates into 25-12 for free throws???
Why did Thibs bring Robinson back at the end?  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/30/2021 10:09 pm : link
And Randall needed to be pulled aside, can’t leave him jaw at the refs like that.
RE: Why did Thibs bring Robinson back at the end?  
Stu11 : 11/30/2021 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15475240 Jim in Hoboken said:
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And Randall needed to be pulled aside, can’t leave him jaw at the refs like that.

Randle played really well tonight but he just can't get a technical there. Just can't.
RE: We out rebounded them, had more 2nd chance points  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 10:11 pm : link
In comment 15475237 Stu11 said:
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And out scored them in the paint so please explain to me how that translates into 25-12 for free throws???


and it wasnt like the Knicks were jist chicking 3s, they were attacking all night
Randle was still hot at the refs  
djm : 11/30/2021 10:21 pm : link
After it was over. Weird (shady as fuck) officiating tonight.
Apparently Thibs was critical of the refs in the postgame  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 10:22 pm : link
and Mitch is whining on social media. Hopefully they issue this game as fuel - time to start winning.
Issue = use, sorry.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 10:22 pm : link
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RE: Apparently Thibs was critical of the refs in the postgame  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 10:24 pm : link
In comment 15475253 bceagle05 said:
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and Mitch is whining on social media. Hopefully they issue this game as fuel - time to start winning.


I really like how they played the last 2 games..

I hope they have played Bulls tough, wpuld be nkce to spank them..

Schedule gets a lot easier coming up
The nets  
hitdog42 : 11/30/2021 10:25 pm : link
Shot 2 ft in the 3rd quarter
7 in the 4th- 1 was a tech- 2 were the obvious Mitch hack at the end
You would think per usual reading a Knick game thread- that the nets shot 45 fts- and the game was stolen.
And then there is reality - where the 2nd half saw basically no whistles and it was well played by the the knicks coming back- but fell short.

Yeah, it’s nice to play the Bulls at the Garden  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 10:26 pm : link
after two in Chicago. Hopefully we split the next two and get rolling.
RE: Stinks the nets won  
Bramton1 : 11/30/2021 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15475229 GMEN46 said:
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No one cares, they don’t deserve to have a good team. I’m happy to not have irving and even harden, durant is so good though. Great game to watch though.


There, there. It's OK.
RE: The nets  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 10:31 pm : link
In comment 15475258 hitdog42 said:
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And then there is reality - where the 2nd half saw basically no whistles and it was well played by the the knicks coming back- but fell short.

I’m not losing sleep over the officiating but the reality is the Nets shot twice as many FTs as the Knicks - who cares about the minute by minute whistle breakdown? 25-12. Oh well, good game.
That was a fun game  
Jerry in_DC : 11/30/2021 10:40 pm : link
Probably the most entertaining Nets game of the year. I like these Nets-Knicks games - not life or death because it's a regular season NBA game, but more juice than most games.

Nice to see Harden get going.
Ah just scrolling up and seeing the comments here...  
Jerry in_DC : 11/30/2021 10:42 pm : link
Wow Knicks fans are a bitter bunch
insane if true  
guitarguybs12 : 11/30/2021 10:44 pm : link
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Stefan Bondy
@SBondyNYDN
Julius Randle said he was told by officials he's not getting calls because he's stronger than defenders and contact is not affecting him:

"That's not how you're supposed to referee a game."
Jeff Van Gundy always brings that up during telecasts.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 10:47 pm : link
Big guys get penalized for being big - Shaq used to get pounded too.
So basically Randle needs to flop  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 10:54 pm : link
Same shit happened to Melo
I do like how Thibs did the rotation tonight  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 11:08 pm : link
I liked how he basically rotated Burks, Fournier, Quick and Rose, They all played with each other it wasnt just bench and starters...

Everyone is a good fit with the other now..

I would of liked to see more Toppin and Randle together but hopefully the glut at center can be alleviated by the deadline
Knicks  
five5 : 11/30/2021 11:12 pm : link
Need to deal Mitch for Nurkic.
a lot of winnable games  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2021 11:19 pm : link
after these next 2..
Remember in “Moneyball”  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 11:33 pm : link
when Billy Beane traded all the possible first basemen on the roster so Art Howe would have no choice but to play Hatteberg? That’s what Leon needs to do with the centers so Obi is guaranteed more minutes. Harden and KD are out there and we’re scared of LaMarcus freaking Aldridge - let him shoot his midrange Js over Obi all night.
As good a scorer as Harden is...  
manh george : 12/1/2021 2:56 am : link
his explosion in the 1H would probably have been significantly less if Barrett were around to defend him at times.
Ticket question.  
Beezer : 12/1/2021 6:51 am : link
Been a while since I’ve had tickets we suddenly cannot use.

Is it completely forbidden to sell at a loss to BBIers here?

If so, what’s the best avenue? We’ve got them for sale on Ticketmaster.

21 rows behind the Knicks bench. 😊
RE: Ticket question.  
JayBinQueens : 12/1/2021 7:22 am : link
In comment 15475341 Beezer said:
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Been a while since I’ve had tickets we suddenly cannot use.

Is it completely forbidden to sell at a loss to BBIers here?

If so, what’s the best avenue? We’ve got them for sale on Ticketmaster.

21 rows behind the Knicks bench. 😊


I like the site TickPick
RE: Ticket question.  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 7:35 am : link
In comment 15475341 Beezer said:
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Been a while since I’ve had tickets we suddenly cannot use.

Is it completely forbidden to sell at a loss to BBIers here?

If so, what’s the best avenue? We’ve got them for sale on Ticketmaster.

21 rows behind the Knicks bench. 😊


pit it right back on ticketmaster
RE: RE: Ticket question.  
Beezer : 12/1/2021 7:53 am : link
In comment 15475356 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15475341 Beezer said:


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Been a while since I’ve had tickets we suddenly cannot use.

Is it completely forbidden to sell at a loss to BBIers here?

If so, what’s the best avenue? We’ve got them for sale on Ticketmaster.

21 rows behind the Knicks bench. 😊



pit it right back on ticketmaster


Yeah. We did. May drop the price. Gonna take a loss but … what can you do. Life.
day after thoughts  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 7:58 am : link
First off its nice to be in these big games and the Knicks actually are a good team, it was fun win or lose..

Second the officiating crew that did this game should be fined or suspended or relegated to doing detroit vs houston, how do you tell a player he is too strong and then you give Durant and Harden ticky tack calls all night? How does Scott Foster continue to get big games? its a joke, Nets won congrats to them but the officiating was a joke last night..

Julius randle played his best all around game this year, he shot well, moved the ball, played defense, rebounded, he played a great game. Id say he has to keep his emotions but lets be real id probably be tossed every game.

Alec Burks 25 5 and 5 good game, cant expect 25 every night but in the 4th you can expect him to show up, never looks like he is going to fast, i like this new starting lineup..

Fournier quiet night but hit 2 big 3s in the 3rd and huge 3 to tie it in the 4th..He has been taken it to the hoop more these past 2 games and i want him to do that more..

Rose is awesome, you can tell he loves these big games and jist loves being in the game at the end. He is not afraid of the moment and i think you can say that aboit most of the players but you can see him raising his game in big moments. I dont know if it was because Rj was sick but i liked the sub of Rose in for Rj with 6 minutes into the 1st and then Rj start the 2nd with the bench..

Quickley is just a good player, wasnt hot or anything but it doesnt matter once the 4th hits, he is all over the court, he is turning into a great player and a closer, him and rose off the bench is such a weapon..

Toppin needs to play more, there is nothing else to say, if Noel is not going to effect the defensive end he is useless and you need to go Toppin and Randle. Bigs cant stay with him and he is not hurting you defensively anymore. He should of finished this game..

Mitch played a good game, he fouled him at the end, im just surprised they called it and the refs completely ignored Aldridge holding Mitch so he couldnt rotate over faster and then shoved him into Johnson but what can you do?

Overally i think this team is about to start winning a lot of games, a lot of winnable games after these next 2 against the bulls and Denver...
16  
hitdog42 : 12/1/2021 8:14 am : link
when milsap took a charge and it was called a block-- should the officials have been relegated? (BTW milsap is toast as a player)

i mean come on man at some point maybe just watch the game? stop whiniing?--- the nets took their season average on FTs. Randle took 3 less then his average--- and gave the nets 1 on a tech.


RE: day after thoughts  
Stu11 : 12/1/2021 8:18 am : link
In comment 15475371 nygiants16 said:
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Mitch played a good game, he fouled him at the end, im just surprised they called it and the refs completely ignored Aldridge holding Mitch so he couldnt rotate over faster and then shoved him into Johnson but what can you do?

Overally i think this team is about to start winning a lot of games, a lot of winnable games after these next 2 against the bulls and Denver...

Scal and Isola looked at a replay of the last play this morning. Forget the shove, they counted,Aldridge was literally in the paint for 7 seconds. Now of course nobody is expecting a 3 second call there, but 7 seconds??? I know it's not remotely in the same stratosphere but having reffed HS ball for 20 years, in that spot at like 4 or 5 seconds I'd warn the guy let's go keep moving. At 6 or 7 I'm banging him I don't care the situation. That's not "letting the players decide the game" that's deciding not to enforce the rules of the game...
RE: 16  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:26 am : link
In comment 15475376 hitdog42 said:
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when milsap took a charge and it was called a block-- should the officials have been relegated? (BTW milsap is toast as a player)

i mean come on man at some point maybe just watch the game? stop whiniing?--- the nets took their season average on FTs. Randle took 3 less then his average--- and gave the nets 1 on a tech.



you mean the the plays where he slid into the offensive player? or the one he was in the restricted area still moving?

so 25 to 12 free throws is an evenly officiated game? and dont say the Nets attwcked, the Knicks and Randle were attwcking the rim all night..

When an official tells a player he is to strong to get foul calls you know some BS happened..

Dont tell me to watch the games, you know damn well i do and i know what im watching dont disrespect me like that..

The nets won congrats but the officiating was horrible and uneven, you want to call ticky tack shit fine, but do it both ways
you whine  
hitdog42 : 12/1/2021 8:32 am : link
in every game thread- from the opening tip.
the nets shot their average. the nets average is in line with 10 other team averages. there was nothing odd about how the nets were officiated.
if you wanted 2 more fouls at random times of the game to feel better--- 2 FTs when they were down 14 --- would that make you feel better?

looking at every call for the knicks as GOOD CALL--- every non call CORRUPT--- every call against knicks ITS SCOTT FOSTER ITS HAYWOOD WORKMAN OMFG.

give it a fking rest.
OMG RANDLE SAID A REF SAID ---- do you know the sh$t they say to harden all year when they go out of their way to not call fouls that are blatant? and really who cares--- i don't.

THE NETS GOT THEIR SEASON AVERAGE CALLED LAST NIGHT
RE: you whine  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:37 am : link
In comment 15475387 hitdog42 said:
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in every game thread- from the opening tip.
the nets shot their average. the nets average is in line with 10 other team averages. there was nothing odd about how the nets were officiated.
if you wanted 2 more fouls at random times of the game to feel better--- 2 FTs when they were down 14 --- would that make you feel better?

looking at every call for the knicks as GOOD CALL--- every non call CORRUPT--- every call against knicks ITS SCOTT FOSTER ITS HAYWOOD WORKMAN OMFG.

give it a fking rest.
OMG RANDLE SAID A REF SAID ---- do you know the sh$t they say to harden all year when they go out of their way to not call fouls that are blatant? and really who cares--- i don't.

THE NETS GOT THEIR SEASON AVERAGE CALLED LAST NIGHT


Then dont respond...

Dont come at me saying i dont watch the games or dont know ehat i am talking about..

So because the Nets got their average it was a correctly called game and an evenly officiated game? got it, great analysis..

If i see a blatantly missed call yeah i am going tl say something and guess what i am not the only one saying something..
I can come up with a bunch of examples of missed calls  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:38 am : link
your only analysis is they shot their average so there is nothing wrong..

If you actually read what i wrote and stop being a bitch, i said i have no problem calling ticky tack fouls but call it both ways..

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FOULS THEY CALLED ON THE KNICKS, ITS ABOUT CALLING IT EVEN...
my analysis  
hitdog42 : 12/1/2021 8:50 am : link
is i watched the game.
there were zero whistles in the 3rd quarter.
the 4th the knicks and nets went back and fourth- in the end the knicks tied it up- and then they committed a clear foul--- they also got a tech at a very immature time.
the game ended-

first half- harden dominant
mid 3rd- 4th- knicks found rhythm- harden cooled off-

Durant clutch in end- ended a 1 possession game in a good game.

game was not whistle heavy-
RE: my analysis  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:54 am : link
In comment 15475408 hitdog42 said:
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is i watched the game.
there were zero whistles in the 3rd quarter.
the 4th the knicks and nets went back and fourth- in the end the knicks tied it up- and then they committed a clear foul--- they also got a tech at a very immature time.
the game ended-

first half- harden dominant
mid 3rd- 4th- knicks found rhythm- harden cooled off-

Durant clutch in end- ended a 1 possession game in a good game.

game was not whistle heavy-


got it, you think the officiating was fine last night, Nets won, they have Durant and Harden and they won, knicks lost..

Not saying the Nets didnt deserve to win..

But that doesnt mean the officials didnt miss blatant calls late in the game
TNT  
TyreeHelmet : 12/1/2021 8:55 am : link
Does such a great job but Reggie Miller might be the worst analyst in sports. He is clueless. He had no idea what he was talking about. Just consistently lost.

Really fun game. I know there were some bad whistles but Randle can't lose his cool like that. Liked that 5 man of Obi, Randle, Rose, Burks, IQ.
RE: TNT  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 8:58 am : link
In comment 15475418 TyreeHelmet said:
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Does such a great job but Reggie Miller might be the worst analyst in sports. He is clueless. He had no idea what he was talking about. Just consistently lost.

Really fun game. I know there were some bad whistles but Randle can't lose his cool like that. Liked that 5 man of Obi, Randle, Rose, Burks, IQ.


Stupid tech and he took a stupid foul on KD at halfcourt when the Knicks went up 2 with i think like 4 minutes left
I’m not going to blame  
GMEN46 : 12/1/2021 9:01 am : link
The refs for the loss. Knicks lost end of story. Randle cannot get a tech there, I don’t care how upset you are. Unless Kyrie comes back there is no way the nets are winning a championship. Besides durant and harden that roster is horrible. The Knicks aren’t winning a championship in the next few years, but they are trending in the right direction. The nets have a 2-3 year window assuming harden resigns. Nothing would make me happier to see the nets fall short these next 2-3 years as the Knicks will start to move to the top of the league as their younger guys get better and they will eventually get the missing piece. They are a superstar wing/SG away from being a legit contender.

Still think the Brooookkkllllyyynnnn chant is the worst team chant in tthe history of professional sports. And I still to this day have never met a nets fan in person. Do they exist?
i really hate  
hitdog42 : 12/1/2021 9:05 am : link
having to root for paul milsap/griffin- painful old washed dues.

nets need claxton back- to play cam thomas more --- its really not a great team to watch--- prefer to watch the cavs lol.
I have to say  
aimrocky : 12/1/2021 9:09 am : link
I'm loving how the officials are eating the whistle more this year, and I'm a Knick fan.
RE: I’m not going to blame  
JayBinQueens : 12/1/2021 9:10 am : link
In comment 15475426 GMEN46 said:
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And I still to this day have never met a nets fan in person. Do they exist?


Good one. Maybe try leaving your mom's basement?

Nets fans exist  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:13 am : link
and i have always said the nrts fans on here except for Kentgraham, are really loyal and diehards...there may not be a lot but there are some diehards
Bottom line, there were some bullshit calls.  
Beezer : 12/1/2021 9:32 am : link
I didn't take notes, but I'd estimate 5-6 times the Knicks were tagged, it was a clear WTF moment for me.

On the other end, I recall 2 no-calls going the other way.

Fouls aren't always going to be even. But last night there were some BS moments.

And if an official said that to Randle, that's a suspendable offense, IMO. You shouldn't call games that way, but more egregious? To actually say it to a player, or anyone.
RE: i really hate  
bceagle05 : 12/1/2021 9:43 am : link
In comment 15475429 hitdog42 said:
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having to root for paul milsap/griffin- painful old washed dues.

I was so annoyed when Milsap was trapped and somehow made that ridiculous baseline bounce pass to Jackson for the corner three - I was like how did that washed up guy make a play like that? That was a killer for the Knicks.
RE: Nets fans exist  
Essex : 12/1/2021 9:47 am : link
In comment 15475440 nygiants16 said:
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and i have always said the nrts fans on here except for Kentgraham, are really loyal and diehards...there may not be a lot but there are some diehards

I grew up a Knicks fan, but we live in Park Slope Brooklyn. Like a lot of areas in NYC, it really a neighborhood filled with more people from outside the tri state area than from in it (I grew up in NJ). They have all decided to relocate to NYC and do not want the suburbs, so its just a lot of people from a lot of different cities. In any event, with every sport, be it football, baseball, hockey, colleges etc--the rooting interests are all over the place. The one sport where there is only one team is the NBA and its the Nets. And, this phenomenon has been around longer than the Kyrie, Durant, Harden days. Now these are not diehard fans, but they are growing into it. My kids are diehard Nets fans. I would imagine many of these supporters did not grow up Nets fans, but it is astonishing to see the civic pride in the Nets and how it is growing a fanbase (at least in Brooklyn).
No revenge game for Rivers on Saturday  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:50 am : link
he is in health and safety protocols, a thin team becomes even thinner
The Nets won and the refs didn't hand it to them  
Stu11 : 12/1/2021 10:30 am : link
As expected Durant was superb down the stretch (pathetic missed dunk aside). I just think a bunch of us have followed this team for 3-4 decades or more and have dealt with always losing to another superstar
We all know it's a star run league, and the superstars get the calls. It just would be nice if for once we had one of those guys after all these years. It's not owed to us, and it's mainly due to management gross ineptitude you get what you get and deal with it. It's just our frustration boils over at times. You can call it jealousy, envy, frustration whatever. On what Randle said I'd have to hear the official's side of the story. I'm betting something was lost in translation or context.
I think Durant is a sensational player  
NoGainDayne : 12/1/2021 10:35 am : link
but we made a real bad choice putting Randle on him down the stretch. He was getting to the rim at will. You live with the 3 with him and hope he misses try to limit his daylight.

Those drives were way too easy at the end. Honestly, i'd have strongly preferred Obi on him, or Burks, get Grimes in on Harden maybe.

Huge mistake to let Durant get to the rim like that. He's going to finish or basically hit automatic free throws. Even at the clip he hits 3's those are the lower % shots.
If they were eating the whistle  
Carl in CT : 12/1/2021 10:48 am : link
Then don’t call that on Robinson when it was a clear block. Rose did touch Durant. If you call it that soft then Randle gets killed everytime he has the ball with no whistle. Durant should be embarassed after that call and missing a bunny.
RE: I think Durant is a sensational player  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 10:51 am : link
In comment 15475530 NoGainDayne said:
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but we made a real bad choice putting Randle on him down the stretch. He was getting to the rim at will. You live with the 3 with him and hope he misses try to limit his daylight.

Those drives were way too easy at the end. Honestly, i'd have strongly preferred Obi on him, or Burks, get Grimes in on Harden maybe.

Huge mistake to let Durant get to the rim like that. He's going to finish or basically hit automatic free throws. Even at the clip he hits 3's those are the lower % shots.


Randle was palying durant tough all game, you dont switch that strategy at the end..Durant hit some tough shots but Randle was in his face most of the night
Yep totally agree Randle played him all game  
Stu11 : 12/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
And did a pretty damn good job until the last 5 minutes or so. Listen Durant is near impossible to guard. The last 3 or 4 minutes of a game he's gonna get aggressive and not settle for 3's no matter what you do. The best way to seal.with him is not have it be a close game. None of the guys you mentioned would have guarded him any better.
Forget the officiating or what Harden did in the 1st half  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 12:18 pm : link
If Kbicks just come out any better than they did in the 3rd the Kbicks may win this easy, maybe they dont go on that 11-0 run to cut it to 4 to end the 3rd but they have to get the 3rd better...

They had a great 3rd against the Hawks and ended up winning by 12..

Rose, Quick, Burks, Randle and Mitch has been a good closing unit
RE: Remember in “Moneyball”  
Vanzetti : 12/1/2021 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15475302 bceagle05 said:
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when Billy Beane traded all the possible first basemen on the roster so Art Howe would have no choice but to play Hatteberg? That’s what Leon needs to do with the centers so Obi is guaranteed more minutes. Harden and KD are out there and we’re scared of LaMarcus freaking Aldridge - let him shoot his midrange Js over Obi all night.


LOL. But that was Hollywood fantasy. Art Howe did exactly what Beane told him. Art was not making the lineups BB and Depo were.
NBA really brought down the hammer  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/1/2021 12:31 pm : link
On Heat & Bulls. Haha.
Not taking away what he did the whole game  
NoGainDayne : 12/1/2021 12:48 pm : link
just he kept getting beat at the end. Would have liked to see an adjustment...
RE: NBA really brought down the hammer  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15475771 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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On Heat & Bulls. Haha.


NBA actually thibks this is going to stop tamoering?

Guaranteed there 3 or 4 stars talking to other players or teams right now, they dont think Fox is already trying to figure out his exit from sacramento?

How about zbrown or Tatum out of Boston?

I mean this happens every single day
No Coby White Tomorrow  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 1:10 pm : link
their bench gets a little thinner but Donavon leaves Derozan or Lavinr on the floor at all times
Bam Adebayo out 4 to 6 weeks  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 3:22 pm : link
..
In man cave watching Wolves Wiz.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/1/2021 8:22 pm : link
Man...Wolves have come on.
Nuggets just lost to Orlando  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:28 pm : link
They are struggiling with a lot of injuries
I also predict  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:36 pm : link
the Pacers will be last years magic at the deadline, they will trade off pieces and go into rebuild mode
RE: I also predict  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2021 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15476369 nygiants16 said:
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the Pacers will be last years magic at the deadline, they will trade off pieces and go into rebuild mode


Brogdon - make it happen, Leon!
nba officiating is so bad  
nygiants16 : 12/1/2021 9:48 pm : link
Duarte was on a fastbreak, Huerter oulls him down by his jersey, blatant, no call on the play Hawks in, this happened with 3 seconds left pacers down 1..
Not enjoying this at all  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/1/2021 9:56 pm : link

Cleveland Cavaliers
111

Miami Heat
85

Duncan Robinson tonight:

0 points
0 rebounds
0 assists
0/7 FG
0/6 3PT
RE: Nets fans exist  
KentGraham : 12/2/2021 1:25 pm : link
In comment 15475440 nygiants16 said:
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and i have always said the nrts fans on here except for Kentgraham, are really loyal and diehards...there may not be a lot but there are some diehards


Lol, you don’t need to like me or my style, but not loyal or a diehard?
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