Dane Brugler's new Mock at The Athletic

Would love to see him in Blue.

Instant superstar upgrade!

Two great players, but no, not top-10. I’m not taking an C and an off-ball LB in the top-10.

And Kenyon Green. To play LG next to AT
5-7 years of a great left side

The perceived "Top 10" guys are going to change 100 times between now and the draft.

If we can get a couple of long-term, high quality players who fill need and value with those picks and we should all be happy. Who they are at this time in the process doesn't matter.

We need a tackel and starting guard. This o-line cannot go another draft without multiple 1st rnd picks. Just cant do it.

...what/who is his top 10?

unless they just project out to be position-busting players.

generally the Giants should think about spending those picks on EDGE/OT/QB, and in their case maybe a very high level OG. Otherwise, maybe trading back is in order.

A guy like Karlaftis will still be there even if Thibideaux and Hutchinson are gone.

an Edge? Or can he project to be because that is what we need.

1. Detroit Lions — Aidan Hutchinson, edge, Michigan
2. Houston Texans — Kayvon Thibodeaux, edge, Oregon*
3. Jacksonville Jaguars — Evan Neal, OT, Alabama*
4. New York Jets (from Seattle) — Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU*
5. New York Jets — Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State*
6. New York Giants — Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
7. New York Giants (from Chicago) — Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa*
8. Philadelphia Eagles — Kyle Hamilton, DS, Notre Dame*
9. Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami) — George Karlaftis, edge, Purdue*
10. Carolina Panthers — Kenny Pickett, QB, Pittsburgh

In comment 15474570 Terry in CO said:

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1. Detroit Lions — Aidan Hutchinson, edge, Michigan 2. Houston Texans — Kayvon Thibodeaux, edge, Oregon* 3. Jacksonville Jaguars — Evan Neal, OT, Alabama* 4. New York Jets (from Seattle) — Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU* 5. New York Jets — Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State* 6. New York Giants — Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah 7. New York Giants (from Chicago) — Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa* 8. Philadelphia Eagles — Kyle Hamilton, DS, Notre Dame* 9. Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami) — George Karlaftis, edge, Purdue* 10. Carolina Panthers — Kenny Pickett, QB, Pittsburgh

If it went that way, I would do it what the Eagles did there. I’d go with Hamilton and Karlaftis.

matches my opinion of the QBs, so far.

I hate picking an OC or ILB that high, and this basically illustrates why slipping out of the top 5 of this draft is not a great outcome imo.

... going into 2022. I wonder if a 3rd OT is worthy of top 10 status.

I do like Karliftis.

16. Pittsburgh Steelers — Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina*
19. Washington Football Team – Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss*

In comment 15474581 Brown_Hornet said:

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... going into 2022. I wonder if a 3rd OT is worthy of top 10 status. I do like Karliftis.

I know many are high on Charles Cross of Mississippi State. I don’t know much about him, but many think he’s right behind Neal and Ickey

They're just harder to find so I'm not opposed to an overpay on positional value there. You can piggyback off the OL thread from yesterday about how shitty OL play is across the league to support that argument. Not to mention how inept this franchise is at identifying OL talent, a safe choice there that's supported by the consensus isn't the worst thing.

taking an IOWA OL.

Zero chance that happens

is a huge need. I am all for two impact D players in round one with a trade down. Very deep OL draft. You can get two in rounds 2-3 if they pick up an extra pick.

This ILB is a redshirt senior. Usually the exceptionally talented ones come out early. Could be nothing but let's see how the pre draft goes. LB that high needs to have a big impact and be complete.

at a lot of these guys to really have an opinion (out of the top couple of edges) but off ball linebacker is a bigger need than people realize and if Linderbaum is the best OL available I don't care if he's a C, G or T, we need them all and I want the best guy.

Huge needs, but it’s bad positional value to draft those positions in the top-10

Trade down and pile up the picks in this mock.

the Jets and Sheagles picks.
OK , maybe, on Lindenbaum,(Gates return is questionable) but we really need a T.
Lloyd: not when we really need an impactful ER.

Is Devin Lloyd better than Ojabu

He and Linderbaum would be a great duo. We cannot leave legitimate pass rushing talent on the board. It's a 1a/1b need along with OL. If he's a good pick at 9, he's a good pick at 7.

See: last week's game. To be sure, we won based on an incompetent passing game for Philly. HOWEVER, add real ER talent to our massive interior 3 and 1) you put consistent pressure on the qb, which we didn't, and 2) you prevent the offense from spreading the field and giving the rbs ample room, which we didn't.

Surely we look at adding an OL with the other pick, and most likely another one in 2 or 3. Nevertheless, the likely gap up in quality on D from having a real threat on the edge is exciting. The DTs would love it, too.

Their PERCEPTION of the NFL's CURRENT collective consensus -

1. - Kayvon Thibodeau ER
2. - Matt Corral OL
3. - Kyle Hamilton S
4. - Derek Stingley CB
5. - DeMarvin Leal DL
6. - Aidan Hutchinson ER
7. - Matt Corral QB
8. - George Karlaftis ER
9. - Chris Olave WR
10. - Kaiir Elam CB

Has Linderbaum as # 11.

In comment 15474495 M.S. said:

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Would love to see him in Blue. Instant superstar upgrade!

I second that. Devin Lloyd is flat out legit. I’d take him in a heartbeat

GK, imho he’s not a game changing ER like KT or AH. He’s a solid edge, but I like Drake Jackson from USC better.

Can play hand in the dirt and standing up. His athleticism and versatility are off the charts

Devin Lloyd can play now at a very high level also adding pass rush capability.
You can always come back in the second round and draft either Foskey of Notre Dame or Johnson of FSU at the EDGE position which is very deep this year.
I would have no complaints with Linderbaum at the center position because we have no idea at this time what will happen with Gates unfortunately.
I would come back in the third round and find either a OT or OG which also happens to be a deep position this upcoming draft.

In comment 15475314 tyrik13 said:

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GK, imho he’s not a game changing ER like KT or AH. He’s a solid edge, but I like Drake Jackson from USC better.

Agree about GK. But I like Johnson from Florida State better than Jackson

Two really good players at two positions of need.

In comment 15474630 JonC said:

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Trade down and pile up the picks in this mock.

What player is someone trading up for? No Justin Fields here, I guess we have to hope someone falls in love with a QB.

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In comment 15475424 JonC said:

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Hope so...as long as it isn't the Giants.

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happened in the 2019 draft :)

That applies to whether the Giants will be able to upgrade the position themselves without a massive trade up or if they'll have the opportunity to make another trade down.

Texans and Lions are all but locked in to the first two picks and will almost assuredly be looking QB.

when Jets took Nick Mangold late in the 1st.