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QB Daniel Jones strained his neck; not sure if he will play

Anakim : 11/30/2021 6:16 pm
Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero

#Giants QB Daniel Jones suffered a strained neck early in last week’s win over the #Eagles and his status is TBD for Sunday’s game against the #Dolphins, per sources.
Explains why we picked up Jake Fromm  
90.Cal : 11/30/2021 6:17 pm : link
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Remember when we had a good QB that never missed a game  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/30/2021 6:18 pm : link
What a blessing that was.
So Jones strained his neck early in last week's game...  
Jim in Tampa : 11/30/2021 6:20 pm : link
He went on to finish the game, but may not play 7 days later?

WTF?
Someone posted this on twitter 4 hours ago  
BeckShepEli : 11/30/2021 6:20 pm : link
Have fun with it
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RE: Remember when we had a good QB that never missed a game  
5BowlsSoon : 11/30/2021 6:20 pm : link
In comment 15474814 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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What a blessing that was.


And he never had a 50 yards rushing game or an 80 yard run on one play.
RE: RE: Remember when we had a good QB that never missed a game  
Bear vs Shark : 11/30/2021 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15474818 5BowlsSoon said:
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What a blessing that was.



And he never had a 50 yards rushing game or an 80 yard run on one play.
Lol and just what exactly are you trying to imply here?
RE: Someone posted this on twitter 4 hours ago  
GiantsRage2007 : 11/30/2021 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15474817 BeckShepEli said:
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Have fun with it DJ Tweet Injury - ( New Window )


Oh boy...
RE: Someone posted this on twitter 4 hours ago  
Go Terps : 11/30/2021 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15474817 BeckShepEli said:
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Have fun with it DJ Tweet Injury - ( New Window )


Big news if true.
RE: Someone posted this on twitter 4 hours ago  
The_Boss : 11/30/2021 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15474817 BeckShepEli said:
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Have fun with it DJ Tweet Injury - ( New Window )


If so, DJ ends the year well short of the 30 passing TD total many here were laying down as a benchmark for 2021…
Jones is constantly hurt  
Metnut : 11/30/2021 6:25 pm : link
I’m rooting for the kid but he misses time each year and his running ability is supposed to be one of his assets.
Neck injuries  
Sammo85 : 11/30/2021 6:26 pm : link
are no joke. Even strains can linger and be a real nuisance to sleep/movement/pain etc. I’m dealing with one myself just as a non athlete that’s been on and off for three weeks.
RE: Someone posted this on twitter 4 hours ago  
bw in dc : 11/30/2021 6:27 pm : link
In comment 15474817 BeckShepEli said:
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Have fun with it DJ Tweet Injury - ( New Window )


Carpenters have always been a great source of information in my life, too. ;)
First let me start by saying I hope Jones is okay and can play.  
FStubbs : 11/30/2021 6:29 pm : link
However, if he indeed is out, it allows a different way to evaluate him in 2021 - we can see what the offense looks like for an extended period with Glennon or Fromm running it. If the offense does about the same, that will also say a lot. If it does worse, then we know Jones was adding some value. If it does better, that screams a lot.
He strained it looking at Barkley’s forward progress.  
CV36 : 11/30/2021 6:29 pm : link
Get will soon DJ.
RE: Jones is constantly hurt  
FStubbs : 11/30/2021 6:30 pm : link
In comment 15474830 Metnut said:
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I’m rooting for the kid but he misses time each year and his running ability is supposed to be one of his assets.


Are we sure he hurt it running? Could've just as easily hurt it getting nailed in the pocket.
A strain shouldn’t keep him out.  
Jerz44 : 11/30/2021 6:31 pm : link
If it’s not a disc or a break, there’s no reason a “neck strain” would severely limit him. Also if he played the the rest of the game, he shouldn’t be out a week later (ie, if he had structural damage unsafe to play he would have been pulled).
RE: Explains why we picked up Jake Fromm  
KeoweeFan : 11/30/2021 6:32 pm : link
In comment 15474812 90.Cal said:
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Does it also explain the low score and the "off" passes to Golladay?

How can folks claim DJ is "injury prone" with this OL?
I hope Jones is okay..  
Sean : 11/30/2021 6:33 pm : link
I don’t think we’ll see much of a drop off with Glennon though.
RE: A strain shouldn’t keep him out.  
ajr2456 : 11/30/2021 6:34 pm : link
In comment 15474844 Jerz44 said:
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If it’s not a disc or a break, there’s no reason a “neck strain” would severely limit him. Also if he played the the rest of the game, he shouldn’t be out a week later (ie, if he had structural damage unsafe to play he would have been pulled).


AJ Brown went back into the game a couple weeks ago, finished the game and then went on IR
RE: RE: Explains why we picked up Jake Fromm  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/30/2021 6:34 pm : link
In comment 15474846 KeoweeFan said:
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Does it also explain the low score and the "off" passes to Golladay?

How can folks claim DJ is "injury prone" with this OL?


He got hurt last time ramming head first into a defender. That's not on the OL. That's on him being reckless. Before that he injured himself on an out of the pocket run. That's not on the OL.
RE: RE: A strain shouldn’t keep him out.  
Jerz44 : 11/30/2021 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15474853 ajr2456 said:
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If it’s not a disc or a break, there’s no reason a “neck strain” would severely limit him. Also if he played the the rest of the game, he shouldn’t be out a week later (ie, if he had structural damage unsafe to play he would have been pulled).



AJ Brown went back into the game a couple weeks ago, finished the game and then went on IR


If they’re being honest about the injury thou it shouldn’t put him on IR. If they came out and said he has a fractured neck and he played thru it but now we know, that’s a different story. A neck strain isn’t dangerous
He took a bad hit early  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/30/2021 6:36 pm : link
On a option inside run. He is not a natural runner and being 6’5” doesn’t help. His runs need to be in space. Bad things happen when he makes contact. Just doesn’t have that natural ability.
That Twitter thing is bad news…  
trueblueinpw : 11/30/2021 6:36 pm : link
Right in the middle of a playoff hunt too. Oh well. Weren’t there some guys calling for Glennon to start?
Wait  
ajr2456 : 11/30/2021 6:36 pm : link
Mara is just telling his carpenters about injuries?
RE: So Jones strained his neck early in last week's game...  
Section331 : 11/30/2021 6:37 pm : link
In comment 15474816 Jim in Tampa said:
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He went on to finish the game, but may not play 7 days later?

WTF?


It’s not that unusual. He may not have felt it until the next day, and thought it would resolve itself by Sunday (which it probably will).
RE: Wait  
trueblueinpw : 11/30/2021 6:38 pm : link
In comment 15474865 ajr2456 said:
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Mara is just telling his carpenters about injuries?


Maybe it’s the carpenter who wants to start Solder too?
Those designed runs the other day were  
Jimmy Googs : 11/30/2021 6:39 pm : link
not well executed. He ran into a few "groups" of Eagles on several occasions.

I give DJ a lot of credit for his effort and toughness but you can't have QBs take that many straight-on type of hits out of the pocket.

Shitty offense...
RE: I hope Jones is okay..  
Go Terps : 11/30/2021 6:39 pm : link
In comment 15474850 Sean said:
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I don’t think we’ll see much of a drop off with Glennon though.


What is there to drop off to? They gonna score 10 points/game?
For all we know  
ajr2456 : 11/30/2021 6:40 pm : link
It could have been a lingering thing from the hit that gave him a concussion and it was made worse on Sunday.
RE: He took a bad hit early  
AcidTest : 11/30/2021 6:41 pm : link
In comment 15474863 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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On a option inside run. He is not a natural runner and being 6’5” doesn’t help. His runs need to be in space. Bad things happen when he makes contact. Just doesn’t have that natural ability.


^This. Jones is a straight line runner, like a sprinter. On a track that's great. On a football field it can be a real liability. He takes a lot of hits. They may be hoping it's just a strain but fearful it could be more.
RE: RE: So Jones strained his neck early in last week's game...  
Scooter185 : 11/30/2021 6:47 pm : link
In comment 15474866 Section331 said:
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He went on to finish the game, but may not play 7 days later?

WTF?



It’s not that unusual. He may not have felt it until the next day, and thought it would resolve itself by Sunday (which it probably will).


Yeah I've strained a muscle before and not felt it until the next day.
What does  
afann : 11/30/2021 6:50 pm : link
it say on twitter? The page doesn't exist anymore.
RE: RE: Explains why we picked up Jake Fromm  
Metnut : 11/30/2021 6:51 pm : link
In comment 15474846 KeoweeFan said:
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Does it also explain the low score and the "off" passes to Golladay?

How can folks claim DJ is "injury prone" with this OL?


Eli played with awful OLs his last years and missed little time.
Reports that he is week to week, and expected  
Saos1n : 11/30/2021 6:51 pm : link
To miss Sunday’s game. Glennon will start
Durability matters  
Sean : 11/30/2021 6:52 pm : link
And now this is the third straight season Jones will miss time due to injury.
RE: What does  
Toth029 : 11/30/2021 6:52 pm : link
In comment 15474884 afann said:
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it say on twitter? The page doesn't exist anymore.


This guy has a carpenter who is good friends with one of the Mara's sons, and claimed while not trying to be definitive, feel Jones is not out this Sunday, but the rest of the year.
My guess it was from always  
Bill in UT : 11/30/2021 6:52 pm : link
looking back to check out who was gaining on him
have you seen the pencil neck  
thrunthrublue : 11/30/2021 6:53 pm : link
on Glennon? he's 6'7"......no option running for him!
RE: RE: What does  
Toth029 : 11/30/2021 6:54 pm : link
In comment 15474890 Toth029 said:
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it say on twitter? The page doesn't exist anymore.



This guy has a carpenter who is good friends with one of the Mara's sons, and claimed while not trying to be definitive, feel Jones is not out this Sunday, but the rest of the year.


Not only, that is.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 6:54 pm : link
Man...makes one appreciate Eli & his consecutive games start even more. And the fact Eli was much, much better than DJ...that too.
That sucks  
Tuckrule : 11/30/2021 6:54 pm : link
Yet the keep calling designed runs for him between the tackles. Off tackle he can slide and should. When he’s running between the tackles there’s no opportunity to slide. Especially when the back misses a simple block
RE: He took a bad hit early  
Sammo85 : 11/30/2021 6:55 pm : link
In comment 15474863 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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On a option inside run. He is not a natural runner and being 6’5” doesn’t help. His runs need to be in space. Bad things happen when he makes contact. Just doesn’t have that natural ability.


I agree - know exactly which play you're referring to. Even Schlereth was really taken aback at how hard Jones ran into defenders and head-first.

He did look a little gingerly getting up and going back but still threw decently. Possible it strained further and really tightened up last day or two.

RE: What does  
The_Boss : 11/30/2021 6:59 pm : link
In comment 15474884 afann said:
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it say on twitter? The page doesn't exist anymore.


Yeah it’s been deleted..my guess total bullshit
RE: RE: What does  
ajr2456 : 11/30/2021 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15474908 The_Boss said:
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it say on twitter? The page doesn't exist anymore.



Yeah it’s been deleted..my guess total bullshit


That tweet was out before any injury news came out. Wouldn’t totally dismiss it
The tweet said Jones is done for the year..  
Sean : 11/30/2021 7:03 pm : link
But, the Giants won’t say that.
RE: Neck injuries  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:05 pm : link
In comment 15474832 Sammo85 said:
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are no joke. Even strains can linger and be a real nuisance to sleep/movement/pain etc. I’m dealing with one myself just as a non athlete that’s been on and off for three weeks.


As a person who has c4-c7 fused, yeah, these are no jokes.
Week to week  
jeff57 : 11/30/2021 7:06 pm : link
Sounds like he may not play Sunday.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2021 7:06 pm : link
Reminds me of Vin Scully talking about some player paraphrasing here,...'They say he's day to day. Then again, aren't we all?'
RE: ...  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15474926 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Reminds me of Vin Scully talking about some player paraphrasing here,...'They say he's day to day. Then again, aren't we all?'


I remember that and and read your post with Scully's voice in my head. Man, we used to have such great announcers, great story tellers..
RE: ...  
Jimmy Googs : 11/30/2021 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15474926 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Reminds me of Vin Scully talking about some player paraphrasing here,...'They say he's day to day. Then again, aren't we all?'


haha, good call here SFG.

I loved the old-time baseball announcers. Best characters in the world...
Injured on the second play  
jeff57 : 11/30/2021 7:09 pm : link
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A few things with this happening  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:11 pm : link
1) If Glennon plays even decently and Giants win a few games adn the offense scores more points then Jones's time here could come to an end.

2) if the team struggles mightily Judge gets a pass- injuries and then losing Jones.

3) If #2 happens our draft position flies up the charts.
RE: Injured on the second play  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15474933 jeff57 said:
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I feel bad for the guy but, maybe this is needed to force a QB change for next year.
Toth029  
afann : 11/30/2021 7:14 pm : link
Thanks
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Lines of Scrimmage : 11/30/2021 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15474937 jvm52106 said:
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I feel bad for the guy but, maybe this is needed to force a QB change for next year.


Do not force the pick! BPA
Yeah I concur about his running style.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 7:16 pm : link
He just runs in a straight line until he gets popped. Reminds me of Forrest Gump's style at Alabama. I applaud his courage but it's uncomfortable to watch and it's not the first time it's caused an injury.
 
christian : 11/30/2021 7:18 pm : link
If Mike Glennon leads this team to the playoffs, that’ll be something.
RE: RE: RE: Injured on the second play  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15474940 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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I feel bad for the guy but, maybe this is needed to force a QB change for next year.



Do not force the pick! BPA


BPA is nevr real but, I never said PICK a QB..
The person who tweeted it  
BeckShepEli : 11/30/2021 7:19 pm : link
Deleted it and protected his tweets. He tweeted it at 2pm, about 4 hours prior to news breaking. Tweet said “bookmark this, I am not a source. But my carpenter is friends with one of Maras sons. Daniel Jones is done for the season But they aren’t saying anything. He will be “out” for Sunday. But he’s actually done for the season, I dunno if I believe it. But let’s see”

Like I said 4 hours prior to everything heating up. I know people will dismiss it on this board but definitely had some traction to it
given the suspect nature  
BigBlueCane : 11/30/2021 7:26 pm : link
of the Giants medical staff, I think he should take care of his own health.

He won't of course but he should.
The second I saw Frohm signed  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:27 pm : link
To the actual roster I knew something was up. Made no sense otherwise. If that is the case, and he was injured that early in the game, then that sure cements how tough that dude is..
Second play was a 5 yard Jones run.  
jeff57 : 11/30/2021 7:28 pm : link
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Frohm's signing makes even more sense  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:32 pm : link
As Bills have played the Phone and Frohm can help immediately with Glennon on what they will be facing..
RE: Frohm's signing makes even more sense  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15474975 jvm52106 said:
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As Bills have played the Phone and Frohm can help immediately with Glennon on what they will be facing..


Stupid auto correct- PHINS!
I still bet  
Biteymax22 : 11/30/2021 7:45 pm : link
A whopping $1.90 on the Giants to cover…
Joking aside  
Biteymax22 : 11/30/2021 7:46 pm : link
If he does indeed miss time it will be the 3rd year in a row and the 3rd time it was done out of the pocket with him running.

We need a real running game so we don’t have to rely on his legs…
c'mon already...QB Steve Grogan played with a neck brace!!  
BillKo : 11/30/2021 7:46 pm : link
LOL....someone help me out with a picture from the mid 80s!!!!!!
RE: The person who tweeted it  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/30/2021 7:51 pm : link
In comment 15474949 BeckShepEli said:
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Deleted it and protected his tweets. He tweeted it at 2pm, about 4 hours prior to news breaking. Tweet said “bookmark this, I am not a source. But my carpenter is friends with one of Maras sons. Daniel Jones is done for the season But they aren’t saying anything. He will be “out” for Sunday. But he’s actually done for the season, I dunno if I believe it. But let’s see”

Like I said 4 hours prior to everything heating up. I know people will dismiss it on this board but definitely had some traction to it


Weirder stuff has happened. A random user broke Steve Smith to the Eagles and never posted again hours before it happened.
Miserable  
uconngiant : 11/30/2021 7:52 pm : link
people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent
RE: ...  
Dave in PA : 11/30/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15474894 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Man...makes one appreciate Eli & his consecutive games start even more. And the fact Eli was much, much better than DJ...that too.
you missed a few much’s
RE: Yeah I concur about his running style.  
Dave in PA : 11/30/2021 8:01 pm : link
In comment 15474941 bceagle05 said:
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He just runs in a straight line until he gets popped. Reminds me of Forrest Gump's style at Alabama. I applaud his courage but it's uncomfortable to watch and it's not the first time it's caused an injury.
lol great Gump reference and very apt
If Grogan can,  
BillKo : 11/30/2021 8:02 pm : link
why not DJ?

https://twitter.com/NFL_Journal/status/772610833792823296/photo/1
1-2 weeks  
AdamBrag : 11/30/2021 8:07 pm : link
My buddy is a sports surgeon, he said this week he's likely doubtful, next week would be questionable.
If they get the skill guys back  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/30/2021 8:22 pm : link
I’ll be interested to see how he does. If they don’t expect another ugly performance. He is not very mobile. Perhaps they implement some packages with Toney taking the ball.

RE: A few things with this happening  
sharp315 : 11/30/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15474935 jvm52106 said:
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1) If Glennon plays even decently and Giants win a few games adn the offense scores more points then Jones's time here could come to an end.

2) if the team struggles mightily Judge gets a pass- injuries and then losing Jones.

3) If #2 happens our draft position flies up the charts.

Jones will be back for year 4 but this could negatively impact their decision to pick up the 5th year. In my opinion he needed tonplay lights out down the stretch to get the option year and now he may not play much or at all.
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section125 : 11/30/2021 8:31 pm : link
In comment 15474929 jvm52106 said:
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Reminds me of Vin Scully talking about some player paraphrasing here,...'They say he's day to day. Then again, aren't we all?'



I remember that and and read your post with Scully's voice in my head. Man, we used to have such great announcers, great story tellers..


I did the same...
RE: First let me start by saying I hope Jones is okay and can play.  
clatterbuck : 11/30/2021 8:32 pm : link
In comment 15474840 FStubbs said:
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However, if he indeed is out, it allows a different way to evaluate him in 2021 - we can see what the offense looks like for an extended period with Glennon or Fromm running it. If the offense does about the same, that will also say a lot. If it does worse, then we know Jones was adding some value. If it does better, that screams a lot.


Is Fromm even in the building yet? C'mon man.
RE: …  
bw in dc : 11/30/2021 8:32 pm : link
In comment 15474947 christian said:
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If Mike Glennon leads this team to the playoffs, that’ll be something.


Beat me to the punch. ;)
RE: Miserable  
joeinpa : 11/30/2021 8:36 pm : link
In comment 15475014 uconngiant said:
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people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent


Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise
I'd expect with Gettleman  
Breeze_94 : 11/30/2021 8:36 pm : link
gone that the Giants will do their due diligence on QB's this offseason.

Judge was not here when Jones was drafted. He has zero ties to Jones and neither will the new FO.

Whether it's the trade market (Wilson, Garopollo) or the draft (Corral, Pickett), don't expect the Giants to sit on their hands instead of looking to upgrade.
If he isn’t even  
Dave on the UWS : 11/30/2021 8:38 pm : link
Testing it at practice tomorrow that speaks volumes.
Neck injuries, pinched nerves in throwing shoulders have ended careers. You Jones haters may get your wish.
RE: I'd expect with Gettleman  
Sean : 11/30/2021 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15475108 Breeze_94 said:
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gone that the Giants will do their due diligence on QB's this offseason.

Judge was not here when Jones was drafted. He has zero ties to Jones and neither will the new FO.

Whether it's the trade market (Wilson, Garopollo) or the draft (Corral, Pickett), don't expect the Giants to sit on their hands instead of looking to upgrade.

This is how I see it.
RE: RE: I'd expect with Gettleman  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 8:53 pm : link
In comment 15475125 Sean said:
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gone that the Giants will do their due diligence on QB's this offseason.

Judge was not here when Jones was drafted. He has zero ties to Jones and neither will the new FO.

Whether it's the trade market (Wilson, Garopollo) or the draft (Corral, Pickett), don't expect the Giants to sit on their hands instead of looking to upgrade.


This is how I see it.


I have a feeling it will be trade market or FA.. Wilson or Rodgers..
I hope this is not a repeat  
SJGiant : 11/30/2021 8:57 pm : link
of what happened to David Wilson's career as a running back for the Giants.

RE: I hope this is not a repeat  
SJGiant : 11/30/2021 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15475134 SJGiant said:
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of what happened to David Wilson's career as a running back for the Giants.


From Wikipedia:

In 2013, Wilson was placed on season-ending injured reserve after he suffered what doctors called spinal stenosis in Week 5 against the Philadelphia Eagles. Doctors had told Wilson that he faced an increased risk of a neck injury if he ever played again. Wilson underwent neck surgery on January 16, 2014. On August 4, 2014, he was ruled out for the year due to his neck again. He was advised not to play football again because of recurring neck injuries and announced his retirement from the NFL on August 6, 2014.
Sick of Jones and Barkley constantly being injured.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/30/2021 9:04 pm : link
Time to move on from both.
First of all the Giants medical staff is excellent and highly regarded  
plato : 11/30/2021 9:08 pm : link
The fool who suggested otherwise is twice a fool because he knows nothing and yaks about it.
2. We don’t know where Jones is in the evaluation process. What have the Giants found on physical exam, anything to question nerve injury. What imaging studies have been done and what do they show. We don’t know.
3. So everything is speculation. My guess is it’s more than a sore neck, as the Giants have said “may” as far as I can tell and not “won’t. The pick up of another qb though certainly leads one to conclude ‘won’t” is the more likely thought of the medical staff.
4. It just makes this season like those previous seasons of horror when the Giants were limited by ineptititude compounded by bad luck.
RE: Sick of Jones and Barkley constantly being injured.  
Sean : 11/30/2021 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15475149 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Time to move on from both.

People will think this is insensitive, but how do you argue it? I hope Jones recovers, but I don’t want to rely on him at QB beyond this season.
RE: I hope this is not a repeat  
Bill in UT : 11/30/2021 9:28 pm : link
In comment 15475134 SJGiant said:
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of what happened to David Wilson's career as a running back for the Giants.


Wilson had a genetic disorder not related to any football injury, although a football injury afterwards could cause him severe problems
I miss Eli  
aimrocky : 11/30/2021 9:31 pm : link
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RE: First of all the Giants medical staff is excellent and highly regarded  
Bill in UT : 11/30/2021 9:34 pm : link
In comment 15475154 plato said:
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The fool who suggested otherwise is twice a fool because he knows nothing and yaks about it.


Highly regarded by who? The NY populace who think that any doctor with a high class hospital affiliation is a genius? The Giants' medical staff is a bunch of high-priced hacks under the thumb of the organization. In all the years I've been watching, they get a lot more wrong than they get right.
I didnt like  
Mark from Jersey : 11/30/2021 10:08 pm : link
the match up against Miami...I ran to get the -3. I see its already to -5.
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christian : 11/30/2021 10:15 pm : link
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If Mike Glennon leads this team to the playoffs, that’ll be something.



Beat me to the punch. ;)


I believe we’ve discussed before — I love a controlled test.

If Mike Glennon gives you similar results, that will require serious quarterback soul searching.
This is what I think for someone in high levels of Corp America  
NJBlueTuna : 11/30/2021 10:20 pm : link
Look, no matter what you think of Jones, we all agree he is tough as nails. Anyone who says otherwise, going back to his Duke days, is a full of crap agenda pumper.

Considering DJ played the rest of the game; hard to tell what that meant tbh. He is a tough gamer and wanted the win?

Did it feel worse the next day? Likely.

But hearing about this on a Tuesday is weird especially cause it became obvious we signed Fromm.

If Fromm does well, I think Jones can get Pipped and lose his job. How can he not? Coaches are fighting for their lives right now. I know I the DJ love feast clan will stone me. But this is a bigger sign than most think.

In full transparency, I was the one who said Loerenzo Carter was done after his injury and production the last couple of years. I got stoned for that. I think this is the first time that I ever thought DJ wasn’t in the plans. This will be a massive blow if that’s true Re what the organization has to do now in addition to fixing the OL and getting another edge rusher. I guess que the Wilson zealots? What a mistake that would be.

I just saw a tweet that Jones is OUT for REST of season.  
Kev in Cali : 11/30/2021 10:24 pm : link
Shutting him down for this "neck"injury. All the QB moves make more sense now.
As long as we get the highlight freaks  
bluewave : 11/30/2021 10:25 pm : link
drooling over other running QBs our quarterback will continue to get hurt. Doesn't take a ton of smarts or research to compare the health of drop back quarterbacks to running quarterbacks. Stop running Daniel Jones! Get an OL and let the running backs do that job! That's why their called 'Running' backs!
RE: RE: First of all the Giants medical staff is excellent and highly regarded  
dancing blue bear : 11/30/2021 10:32 pm : link
In comment 15475188 Bill in UT said:
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The fool who suggested otherwise is twice a fool because he knows nothing and yaks about it.




Highly regarded by who? The NY populace who think that any doctor with a high class hospital affiliation is a genius? The Giants' medical staff is a bunch of high-priced hacks under the thumb of the organization. In all the years I've been watching, they get a lot more wrong than they get right.


The giants medical staff is the hospital for special surgery in Manhattan. It’s renowned. Google it.
RE: I just saw a tweet that Jones is OUT for REST of season.  
NJBlueTuna : 11/30/2021 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15475257 Kev in Cali said:
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Shutting him down for this "neck"injury. All the QB moves make more sense now.


IF this is true, we may have seen the last of DJ as it allows a clean reset under Judge

Facts:

DJ was not judges pick
Front office LOVES judge
OC gone and it’s coming out it was Bc of Judge
A new QB buys Judge more time

It’s not hard math
RE: RE: I just saw a tweet that Jones is OUT for REST of season.  
Scooter185 : 11/30/2021 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15475272 NJBlueTuna said:
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Shutting him down for this "neck"injury. All the QB moves make more sense now.



IF this is true, we may have seen the last of DJ as it allows a clean reset under Judge

Facts:

DJ was not judges pick
Front office LOVES judge
OC gone and it’s coming out it was Bc of Judge
A new QB buys Judge more time

It’s not hard math


Loves is an understatement. Kay said today on his show that he heard Judge could "take a ball peen hammer to the windows of John Mara's car, and relieve himself on the leather seats and not get fired"
Here's the play where he got hurt  
Go Terps : 11/30/2021 11:08 pm : link
People criticize the thought of having a mobile quarterback, but part of it is the guy has to know how to avoid contact. Know when, where, and how to slide.

Jones basically offers himself up to get decapitated, and it's lucky it wasn't worse.
Link - ( New Window )
Very difficult to not feel like  
j_rud : 11/30/2021 11:10 pm : link
this team will be spinning its wheels if they spend another year with Jones at the helm.
RE: RE: Miserable  
BH28 : 11/30/2021 11:12 pm : link
In comment 15475107 joeinpa said:
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people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent



Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise


The vitriol is because a lot of people believe Jones was 'overdrafted' and based on results to date, that certainly seems to be the case. If people want to blame the o-line, fine. But if you are going to do that, you should at least extend the same consideration to Eli's last few years as a reason for decline if it's the same reason Jones is 'held back'. The line has been bad for at least half a decade.

I think people have to accept that Jones was a whiff of a pick between the injuries and inconsistent play.
RE: Here's the play where he got hurt  
j_rud : 11/30/2021 11:13 pm : link
In comment 15475286 Go Terps said:
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People criticize the thought of having a mobile quarterback, but part of it is the guy has to know how to avoid contact. Know when, where, and how to slide.

Jones basically offers himself up to get decapitated, and it's lucky it wasn't worse. Link - ( New Window )


Side note: notice not a single member of the Eagles back 7 reacts to the playcfake to Barkley? I mean not a single false step. They couldn't be any less concerned.
RE: RE: RE: Miserable  
Scooter185 : 11/30/2021 11:20 pm : link
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people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent



Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise



The vitriol is because a lot of people believe Jones was 'overdrafted' and based on results to date, that certainly seems to be the case. If people want to blame the o-line, fine. But if you are going to do that, you should at least extend the same consideration to Eli's last few years as a reason for decline if it's the same reason Jones is 'held back'. The line has been bad for at least half a decade.

I think people have to accept that Jones was a whiff of a pick between the injuries and inconsistent play.


Some fans are so afraid of Jones not being the guy and lash out at anyone who dares to say he may be part of the problem. Since Jones hasn't been consistent, those who don't believe in him dig in more from the "pro-Jones" crowds attacks.
RE: RE: Here's the play where he got hurt  
Go Terps : 11/30/2021 11:30 pm : link
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People criticize the thought of having a mobile quarterback, but part of it is the guy has to know how to avoid contact. Know when, where, and how to slide.

Jones basically offers himself up to get decapitated, and it's lucky it wasn't worse. Link - ( New Window )



Side note: notice not a single member of the Eagles back 7 reacts to the playcfake to Barkley? I mean not a single false step. They couldn't be any less concerned.


That's a good point.

It's just an awful looking play, and it's not like the blocking was horrible or anything.

Jones is a tough guy and a real weapon when he's running at or past the second level, but he just doesn't run or pass like he has any instinct or feel for the speed of the game.

He's really lucky this hit wasn't worse.
I honestly thought I was going to open this thread  
NoGainDayne : 12/1/2021 12:17 am : link
and it was going to be about him putting in too many hours in the film room with his legendary work ethic.

Feel bad for the kid but I honestly think the sooner he retires the better. He can definitely take a lick, I'll give him that. But I just feel like I see him slamming into LBs too often where most other QBs are sliding. His field awareness is just some of the worst I've ever seen. Whoever we have coaching him on this doesn't seem to be helping the situation very much...

RE: I honestly thought I was going to open this thread  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 12/1/2021 12:48 am : link
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and it was going to be about him putting in too many hours in the film room with his legendary work ethic.

Feel bad for the kid but I honestly think the sooner he retires the better. He can definitely take a lick, I'll give him that. But I just feel like I see him slamming into LBs too often where most other QBs are sliding. His field awareness is just some of the worst I've ever seen. Whoever we have coaching him on this doesn't seem to be helping the situation very much...


Agree completely.
special surgery  
BigBlueCane : 12/1/2021 4:32 am : link
doesn't automatically equal the best. nor does it being located in Manhatten.

Given the horrific nature and recovery of several Giants players over the past decade plus, I think would think evaluating everything associated with the team is on the table.
RE: Here's the play where he got hurt  
Batenhorst7 : 12/1/2021 4:40 am : link
In comment 15475286 Go Terps said:
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People criticize the thought of having a mobile quarterback, but part of it is the guy has to know how to avoid contact. Know when, where, and how to slide.

Jones basically offers himself up to get decapitated, and it's lucky it wasn't worse. Link - ( New Window )


Hard to tell from that angle but it looked like an Eagles Saftey came in late while Jones was on the ground and delivered a vicious helmet to helmet

He should have been flagged or tossed out of game

Anyway, stats indicate Glennon and Jones are nearly identical.

I liked the way a rusty Glennon came in in the Dallas game and seemed perfectly poised (Although he did throw an INT- understandable as the Giants were in a catch up mode). Hopefully the Giants finally open up the offense- Glennon has a cannon for an arm and is tall enough to have very good field view. We lose mobility but this might force the Giants to play Booker

To play The Tiny Dancer and Glennon together will be a horror show
RE: RE: Here's the play where he got hurt  
riceneggs : 12/1/2021 6:28 am : link
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Side note: notice not a single member of the Eagles back 7 reacts to the playcfake to Barkley? I mean not a single false step. They couldn't be any less concerned.


i counted (4) players who pursued Barkley first. what clip are you watching?
Glennon & Booker  
BigBlueJ : 12/1/2021 6:33 am : link
Better than Jones & Barkley.
RE: Glennon & Booker  
riceneggs : 12/1/2021 6:35 am : link
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Better than Jones & Barkley.


as bad as this reads, it may be true. Glennon will throw the ball more than 5 yards a play. Booker will run str8 ahead and get the yards thats there.

RE: Here's the play where he got hurt  
NYGgolfer : 12/1/2021 7:33 am : link
In comment 15475286 Go Terps said:
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People criticize the thought of having a mobile quarterback, but part of it is the guy has to know how to avoid contact. Know when, where, and how to slide.

Jones basically offers himself up to get decapitated, and it's lucky it wasn't worse. Link - ( New Window )


Yes, recall it and thought he was slow getting up too.

Can't see to the far left but seems like the safer haven was to keep heading towards the sideline versus heading inside into the heart of the defense like he was Earl Campbell. Jones takes too many direct blows for a running QB.
RE: RE: Glennon & Booker  
BigBlueJ : 12/1/2021 7:43 am : link
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Better than Jones & Barkley.



as bad as this reads, it may be true. Glennon will throw the ball more than 5 yards a play. Booker will run str8 ahead and get the yards thats there.


And I don't mean this as a total burn notice. It is that I think both kids are in their heads, lacking confidence and are not playing free, healthy or sharp.
Jones is an odd combination of a tough SOB who also gets hurt a lot  
Heisenberg : 12/1/2021 7:57 am : link
We were so spoiled with Eli and his remarkable durability.

Even if Jones plays better than he has, it's hard to envision him finishing a 16 game season.
RE: Jones is an odd combination of a tough SOB who also gets hurt a lot  
BigBlueJ : 12/1/2021 8:18 am : link
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We were so spoiled with Eli and his remarkable durability.

Even if Jones plays better than he has, it's hard to envision him finishing a 16 game season.


He does not play smart, he seems to play tense and under pressure. If you look at the top mobile QBs they are run smarter than him, they fade out of bounds or slide into to traffic or just drop where they are. I feel for him, good kid, but although he has some elite traits there are just way to many gaps in his game to be consistent across the board.
RE: Glennon & Booker  
Jim in Tampa : 12/1/2021 8:28 am : link
In comment 15475335 BigBlueJ said:
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Better than Jones & Barkley.

Whether this is true or not, the fact that it's even debatable when it should be laughable, speaks volumes as to the current value of Jones and Barkley.
Always  
TommyWiseau : 12/1/2021 8:35 am : link
Hurt or dinged up, check. Turns the ball over a lot, check. Stalls in the red zone nearly every time, check. Does not go through his progressions, check.

We have a bad QB. Maybe he becomes a good backup but I don’t see him having a long career as a starter in this league
RE: RE: Here's the play where he got hurt  
jvm52106 : 12/1/2021 8:38 am : link
In comment 15475354 NYGgolfer said:
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People criticize the thought of having a mobile quarterback, but part of it is the guy has to know how to avoid contact. Know when, where, and how to slide.

Jones basically offers himself up to get decapitated, and it's lucky it wasn't worse. Link - ( New Window )



Yes, recall it and thought he was slow getting up too.

Can't see to the far left but seems like the safer haven was to keep heading towards the sideline versus heading inside into the heart of the defense like he was Earl Campbell. Jones takes too many direct blows for a running QB.


Its funny (and easy to say now) but, I remember a close up of his face after that hit and he was wincing. My thought was oh great now he is going to get hurt and this crappy offense is going to be even worse. But, he played on so never thought about it again. That run, that way he handles the end- gotta stop leading with your head, is scary. careers get ended that way when your 6'5" and going down like that.
RE: RE: Miserable  
SirLoinOfBeef : 12/1/2021 8:47 am : link
In comment 15475107 joeinpa said:
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people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent



Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise


I think some people here just don't care for Eli Manning.
RE: RE: RE: Here's the play where he got hurt  
j_rud : 12/1/2021 8:52 am : link
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Side note: notice not a single member of the Eagles back 7 reacts to the playcfake to Barkley? I mean not a single false step. They couldn't be any less concerned.



i counted (4) players who pursued Barkley first. what clip are you watching?


The down lineman, but watch the LBers and secondary. They ignore the play fake to the back side and immediately key on Jones. The only one who didn't was Slay.
the play where he got hurt  
riceneggs : 12/1/2021 9:15 am : link
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Side note: notice not a single member of the Eagles back 7 reacts to the playcfake to Barkley? I mean not a single false step. They couldn't be any less concerned.



i counted (4) players who pursued Barkley first. what clip are you watching?



The down lineman, but watch the LBers and secondary. They ignore the play fake to the back side and immediately key on Jones. The only one who didn't was Slay.


i wish i knew how to insert a picture. it would be easier to explain

but the only reason DJ kept the ball was because the DLman/LB pursued Saquon. the LBrs and CBs didnt pursue Saquon because they realized DJ had the ball...not because Saquon isnt a threat

but just looking at the play over and over....that was ugly
I love Eli Manning  
Dnew15 : 12/1/2021 9:27 am : link
always have and always will. He's my favorite all-time Giant.

But he was done.
RE: RE: Miserable  
HomerJones45 : 12/1/2021 9:36 am : link
In comment 15475107 joeinpa said:
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people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent



Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise
You haven't been around very long then.

No, it has to do with the 6th pick in the draft playing like Case Keenum thus forcing additional resources to be spent to upgrade and the constant excuse mongering on his behalf. Do try and keep up.

I do wish the kid a speedy and complete recovery.
RE: RE: Miserable  
Debaser : 12/1/2021 10:02 am : link
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people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent



Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise


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people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent



Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise


Guilty! I also did not like that they benched him in week 2. But I was watching Eli on his MNF and they showed a clip of him rooting like crazy for the Giants during a commercial; so I guess maybe we should forgive and forget.

I don't like robotic mechnanical running QBs. I also don't like barking out snap counts till the last second that seem to draw no one offsides but our own lineman. oh yeah IO also don't like losing a shit ton of games with umprooven commodities. I also don't like BBIers doubling down on Jones because they are dug in that it was time to move on from Eli. When by every measure exceppt running Eli was and still is the better qb.

Also anyone else find these injuries of dubious timing? Offense awful ; definitely time to see what another QB could do. He played a whole game like that and now? He played after a concussion a few weeks ago when Glennon got the reps but now?

We were saying Darnold was not really all that hurt after his slump and now it looks like Cam is in a similar boat with a bad team or just a bad QB but, now that it Jones turn to sit with an alleged injury it is "well he didn't feel it till the next day"...Anyway go go Glennon!
RE: RE: Miserable  
Section331 : 12/1/2021 10:05 am : link
In comment 15475107 joeinpa said:
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Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise


You've never seen vitriol like towards Jones? Are you new here? Take a look at any thread involving Engram, and you'd think he was responsible for 9/11, the Kennedy assassination and COVID.

I'll cop to being too slow in acknowledging that Eli was cooked, but if you're going to say that we can't truly evaluate Jones because of the OL, how can you so freely evaluate Eli behind an even worse OL? Everyone here wants to see the Giants winning again. If you think Jones can be a part of that, that's fine, but people need to stop assuming there's some hidden agenda with those of us who question whether Jones is the guy.
Strained neck, not playing?  
David B. : 12/1/2021 10:09 am : link
RE: RE: RE: RE: Here's the play where he got hurt  
BigBlueShock : 12/1/2021 10:14 am : link
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Side note: notice not a single member of the Eagles back 7 reacts to the playcfake to Barkley? I mean not a single false step. They couldn't be any less concerned.



i counted (4) players who pursued Barkley first. what clip are you watching?



The down lineman, but watch the LBers and secondary. They ignore the play fake to the back side and immediately key on Jones. The only one who didn't was Slay.

That’s called assignment football. It wouldn’t make much sense to design your defense to have every player on the defense keying on the same guy especially when you know there’s a good chance the QB may keep it. There is plenty of film on this offense and not many teams are surprised at the plays that are run. And that’s being kind…
RE: RE: RE: Miserable  
NoGainDayne : 12/1/2021 10:20 am : link
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Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise



You've never seen vitriol like towards Jones? Are you new here? Take a look at any thread involving Engram, and you'd think he was responsible for 9/11, the Kennedy assassination and COVID.

I'll cop to being too slow in acknowledging that Eli was cooked, but if you're going to say that we can't truly evaluate Jones because of the OL, how can you so freely evaluate Eli behind an even worse OL? Everyone here wants to see the Giants winning again. If you think Jones can be a part of that, that's fine, but people need to stop assuming there's some hidden agenda with those of us who question whether Jones is the guy.


Lol I remember in his rookie year I had a heated debate with TTH about him not being a TE but a big WR. I really do think his career was wasted, he could have spent all that time he was "learning to block" doing things with body position, practicing fades. I think that this was another player robbed of his full potential by Giants coaches.

All that being said I chuckled at this. Like it seems there is a contingent of fans that Jones could give up a game and they line up the excuses for him and they want to tar and feather Engram for dropping a pass.
RE: RE: I just saw a tweet that Jones is OUT for REST of season.  
FStubbs : 12/1/2021 10:42 am : link
In comment 15475272 NJBlueTuna said:
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Shutting him down for this "neck"injury. All the QB moves make more sense now.



IF this is true, we may have seen the last of DJ as it allows a clean reset under Judge

Facts:

DJ was not judges pick
Front office LOVES judge
OC gone and it’s coming out it was Bc of Judge
A new QB buys Judge more time

It’s not hard math


A new QB didn't buy Shurmur time.
Personally I hope one of 2 things happen  
TheBlueprintNC : 12/1/2021 10:43 am : link
1- They shut young Dan down for the year to get better and rebuild his line in the offseason. Let Glennon and Fromme take the hits. Dan is a stud with an OL. He's shown it and the numbers prove it.

2- They shut Young Dan down and trade him to the Broncos where he will be a stud and get away from NY.

Enjoy the rest of the season.
RE: Personally I hope one of 2 things happen  
Debaser : 12/1/2021 10:54 am : link
In comment 15475549 TheBlueprintNC said:
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1- They shut young Dan down for the year to get better and rebuild his line in the offseason. Let Glennon and Fromme take the hits. Dan is a stud with an OL. He's shown it and the numbers prove it.

2- They shut Young Dan down and trade him to the Broncos where he will be a stud and get away from NY.

Enjoy the rest of the season.


Mr Jones Sr. respectfully sir we all agree that your son is fine young man and you did a great job of raising him but it is time to accept reality that he can't play at this level. Nothing wrong with that. As someone who never got past being a high school all star baseball pitcher I can say that your kid did fine but reality is reality.
RE: Personally I hope one of 2 things happen  
NoGainDayne : 12/1/2021 10:54 am : link
In comment 15475549 TheBlueprintNC said:
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1- They shut young Dan down for the year to get better and rebuild his line in the offseason. Let Glennon and Fromme take the hits. Dan is a stud with an OL. He's shown it and the numbers prove it.

2- They shut Young Dan down and trade him to the Broncos where he will be a stud and get away from NY.

Enjoy the rest of the season.


He has at no point been a stud in college in the pros. You apparently don't understand what the word proof means
RE: RE: Personally I hope one of 2 things happen  
TheBlueprintNC : 12/1/2021 11:01 am : link
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1- They shut young Dan down for the year to get better and rebuild his line in the offseason. Let Glennon and Fromme take the hits. Dan is a stud with an OL. He's shown it and the numbers prove it.

2- They shut Young Dan down and trade him to the Broncos where he will be a stud and get away from NY.

Enjoy the rest of the season.



He has at no point been a stud in college in the pros. You apparently don't understand what the word proof means


Go look at his stats with just 3 legit starting OL and 2 starters on WR. There is your uhh proof.

!- Hes had 2 coaches and 3 OC
2- Never had a middle of the pack OL pass pro and Running game
3- Has played less than 15% of his games with 2 starting WR
4- He has not had a D hold a lead in the 4th Qtr until the last 2 wins!

But yeah its all him.
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Scooter185 : 12/1/2021 11:07 am : link
@RapSheet: #Giants coach Joe Judge, wearing an ugly Ole Miss hat likely due to a lost Egg Bowl bet, says QB Daniel Jones’ neck strain is not considered season-ending as of now. Jones will be limited in practice. https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1466072977217396742
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Scooter185 : 12/1/2021 11:10 am : link
@RVacchianoSNY: QB Daniel Jones will practice today, according to Joe Judge. He’s also expected to practice Thursday and Friday. Judge was vague about Jones’ neck injury but made it clear he’s not ruled out for Sunday. https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1466072977217396742/photo/1
RE: RE: RE: Personally I hope one of 2 things happen  
NoGainDayne : 12/1/2021 11:14 am : link
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1- They shut young Dan down for the year to get better and rebuild his line in the offseason. Let Glennon and Fromme take the hits. Dan is a stud with an OL. He's shown it and the numbers prove it.

2- They shut Young Dan down and trade him to the Broncos where he will be a stud and get away from NY.

Enjoy the rest of the season.



He has at no point been a stud in college in the pros. You apparently don't understand what the word proof means



Go look at his stats with just 3 legit starting OL and 2 starters on WR. There is your uhh proof.

!- Hes had 2 coaches and 3 OC
2- Never had a middle of the pack OL pass pro and Running game
3- Has played less than 15% of his games with 2 starting WR
4- He has not had a D hold a lead in the 4th Qtr until the last 2 wins!

But yeah its all him.


You are making excuses about how he is not good. You aren't proving he's been a "stud"
RE: RE: RE: RE: Personally I hope one of 2 things happen  
TheBlueprintNC : 12/1/2021 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15475618 NoGainDayne said:
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In comment 15475585 TheBlueprintNC said:


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In comment 15475577 NoGainDayne said:


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In comment 15475549 TheBlueprintNC said:


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1- They shut young Dan down for the year to get better and rebuild his line in the offseason. Let Glennon and Fromme take the hits. Dan is a stud with an OL. He's shown it and the numbers prove it.

2- They shut Young Dan down and trade him to the Broncos where he will be a stud and get away from NY.

Enjoy the rest of the season.



He has at no point been a stud in college in the pros. You apparently don't understand what the word proof means



Go look at his stats with just 3 legit starting OL and 2 starters on WR. There is your uhh proof.

!- Hes had 2 coaches and 3 OC
2- Never had a middle of the pack OL pass pro and Running game
3- Has played less than 15% of his games with 2 starting WR
4- He has not had a D hold a lead in the 4th Qtr until the last 2 wins!

But yeah its all him.



You are making excuses about how he is not good. You aren't proving he's been a "stud"


my friend Go look at his stats with just 3 legit starting OL and 2 starters on WR. There is your uhh proof.
RE: RE: RE: Personally I hope one of 2 things happen  
Producer : 12/1/2021 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15475585 TheBlueprintNC said:
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In comment 15475577 NoGainDayne said:


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In comment 15475549 TheBlueprintNC said:


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1- They shut young Dan down for the year to get better and rebuild his line in the offseason. Let Glennon and Fromme take the hits. Dan is a stud with an OL. He's shown it and the numbers prove it.

2- They shut Young Dan down and trade him to the Broncos where he will be a stud and get away from NY.

Enjoy the rest of the season.



He has at no point been a stud in college in the pros. You apparently don't understand what the word proof means



Go look at his stats with just 3 legit starting OL and 2 starters on WR. There is your uhh proof.

!- Hes had 2 coaches and 3 OC
2- Never had a middle of the pack OL pass pro and Running game
3- Has played less than 15% of his games with 2 starting WR
4- He has not had a D hold a lead in the 4th Qtr until the last 2 wins!

But yeah its all him.


Then let him go to Denver and be a stud. I'll drive him to the airport. Jones can't beat Teddy Bridgewater out for the job. Trust me Denver is not waiting for Jones. They're waiting for a guy named Aaron Rodgers.
I learned in business pretty quickly that there are book smarts  
arniefez : 12/1/2021 5:09 pm : link
and business smarts and one has nothing to do with the other or a persons IQ. I'm sure Jones is an intelligent person but his football smarts are lacking. He doesn't know how to protect himself. All of the top QBs have figured it out. Just another example of why he isn't one.
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