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QB Daniel Jones strained his neck; not sure if he will play

Anakim : 11/30/2021 6:16 pm
Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero

#Giants QB Daniel Jones suffered a strained neck early in last week’s win over the #Eagles and his status is TBD for Sunday’s game against the #Dolphins, per sources.
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Injured on the second play  
jeff57 : 11/30/2021 7:09 pm : link
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A few things with this happening  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:11 pm : link
1) If Glennon plays even decently and Giants win a few games adn the offense scores more points then Jones's time here could come to an end.

2) if the team struggles mightily Judge gets a pass- injuries and then losing Jones.

3) If #2 happens our draft position flies up the charts.
RE: Injured on the second play  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15474933 jeff57 said:
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I feel bad for the guy but, maybe this is needed to force a QB change for next year.
Toth029  
afann : 11/30/2021 7:14 pm : link
Thanks
RE: RE: Injured on the second play  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/30/2021 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15474937 jvm52106 said:
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I feel bad for the guy but, maybe this is needed to force a QB change for next year.


Do not force the pick! BPA
Yeah I concur about his running style.  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2021 7:16 pm : link
He just runs in a straight line until he gets popped. Reminds me of Forrest Gump's style at Alabama. I applaud his courage but it's uncomfortable to watch and it's not the first time it's caused an injury.
 
christian : 11/30/2021 7:18 pm : link
If Mike Glennon leads this team to the playoffs, that’ll be something.
RE: RE: RE: Injured on the second play  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15474940 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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I feel bad for the guy but, maybe this is needed to force a QB change for next year.



Do not force the pick! BPA


BPA is nevr real but, I never said PICK a QB..
The person who tweeted it  
BeckShepEli : 11/30/2021 7:19 pm : link
Deleted it and protected his tweets. He tweeted it at 2pm, about 4 hours prior to news breaking. Tweet said “bookmark this, I am not a source. But my carpenter is friends with one of Maras sons. Daniel Jones is done for the season But they aren’t saying anything. He will be “out” for Sunday. But he’s actually done for the season, I dunno if I believe it. But let’s see”

Like I said 4 hours prior to everything heating up. I know people will dismiss it on this board but definitely had some traction to it
given the suspect nature  
BigBlueCane : 11/30/2021 7:26 pm : link
of the Giants medical staff, I think he should take care of his own health.

He won't of course but he should.
The second I saw Frohm signed  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:27 pm : link
To the actual roster I knew something was up. Made no sense otherwise. If that is the case, and he was injured that early in the game, then that sure cements how tough that dude is..
Second play was a 5 yard Jones run.  
jeff57 : 11/30/2021 7:28 pm : link
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Frohm's signing makes even more sense  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:32 pm : link
As Bills have played the Phone and Frohm can help immediately with Glennon on what they will be facing..
RE: Frohm's signing makes even more sense  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15474975 jvm52106 said:
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As Bills have played the Phone and Frohm can help immediately with Glennon on what they will be facing..


Stupid auto correct- PHINS!
I still bet  
Biteymax22 : 11/30/2021 7:45 pm : link
A whopping $1.90 on the Giants to cover…
Joking aside  
Biteymax22 : 11/30/2021 7:46 pm : link
If he does indeed miss time it will be the 3rd year in a row and the 3rd time it was done out of the pocket with him running.

We need a real running game so we don’t have to rely on his legs…
c'mon already...QB Steve Grogan played with a neck brace!!  
BillKo : 11/30/2021 7:46 pm : link
LOL....someone help me out with a picture from the mid 80s!!!!!!
RE: The person who tweeted it  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/30/2021 7:51 pm : link
In comment 15474949 BeckShepEli said:
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Deleted it and protected his tweets. He tweeted it at 2pm, about 4 hours prior to news breaking. Tweet said “bookmark this, I am not a source. But my carpenter is friends with one of Maras sons. Daniel Jones is done for the season But they aren’t saying anything. He will be “out” for Sunday. But he’s actually done for the season, I dunno if I believe it. But let’s see”

Like I said 4 hours prior to everything heating up. I know people will dismiss it on this board but definitely had some traction to it


Weirder stuff has happened. A random user broke Steve Smith to the Eagles and never posted again hours before it happened.
Miserable  
uconngiant : 11/30/2021 7:52 pm : link
people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent
RE: ...  
Dave in PA : 11/30/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15474894 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Man...makes one appreciate Eli & his consecutive games start even more. And the fact Eli was much, much better than DJ...that too.
you missed a few much’s
RE: Yeah I concur about his running style.  
Dave in PA : 11/30/2021 8:01 pm : link
In comment 15474941 bceagle05 said:
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He just runs in a straight line until he gets popped. Reminds me of Forrest Gump's style at Alabama. I applaud his courage but it's uncomfortable to watch and it's not the first time it's caused an injury.
lol great Gump reference and very apt
If Grogan can,  
BillKo : 11/30/2021 8:02 pm : link
why not DJ?

https://twitter.com/NFL_Journal/status/772610833792823296/photo/1
1-2 weeks  
AdamBrag : 11/30/2021 8:07 pm : link
My buddy is a sports surgeon, he said this week he's likely doubtful, next week would be questionable.
If they get the skill guys back  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/30/2021 8:22 pm : link
I’ll be interested to see how he does. If they don’t expect another ugly performance. He is not very mobile. Perhaps they implement some packages with Toney taking the ball.

RE: A few things with this happening  
sharp315 : 11/30/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15474935 jvm52106 said:
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1) If Glennon plays even decently and Giants win a few games adn the offense scores more points then Jones's time here could come to an end.

2) if the team struggles mightily Judge gets a pass- injuries and then losing Jones.

3) If #2 happens our draft position flies up the charts.

Jones will be back for year 4 but this could negatively impact their decision to pick up the 5th year. In my opinion he needed tonplay lights out down the stretch to get the option year and now he may not play much or at all.
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section125 : 11/30/2021 8:31 pm : link
In comment 15474929 jvm52106 said:
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Reminds me of Vin Scully talking about some player paraphrasing here,...'They say he's day to day. Then again, aren't we all?'



I remember that and and read your post with Scully's voice in my head. Man, we used to have such great announcers, great story tellers..


I did the same...
RE: First let me start by saying I hope Jones is okay and can play.  
clatterbuck : 11/30/2021 8:32 pm : link
In comment 15474840 FStubbs said:
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However, if he indeed is out, it allows a different way to evaluate him in 2021 - we can see what the offense looks like for an extended period with Glennon or Fromm running it. If the offense does about the same, that will also say a lot. If it does worse, then we know Jones was adding some value. If it does better, that screams a lot.


Is Fromm even in the building yet? C'mon man.
RE: …  
bw in dc : 11/30/2021 8:32 pm : link
In comment 15474947 christian said:
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If Mike Glennon leads this team to the playoffs, that’ll be something.


Beat me to the punch. ;)
RE: Miserable  
joeinpa : 11/30/2021 8:36 pm : link
In comment 15475014 uconngiant said:
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people is what I see on this site

I hope he is okay and wish he had an offensive line that was actually decent


Been a fan a long time, have never seen the vitriol towards a player I ve seen towards Jones, I suspect it has something to do with his drafting accelerating Eli s retirement.

Some here still believe Eli had years left, even though the team s performance for the two years prior to Jones would suggest otherwise
I'd expect with Gettleman  
Breeze_94 : 11/30/2021 8:36 pm : link
gone that the Giants will do their due diligence on QB's this offseason.

Judge was not here when Jones was drafted. He has zero ties to Jones and neither will the new FO.

Whether it's the trade market (Wilson, Garopollo) or the draft (Corral, Pickett), don't expect the Giants to sit on their hands instead of looking to upgrade.
If he isn’t even  
Dave on the UWS : 11/30/2021 8:38 pm : link
Testing it at practice tomorrow that speaks volumes.
Neck injuries, pinched nerves in throwing shoulders have ended careers. You Jones haters may get your wish.
RE: I'd expect with Gettleman  
Sean : 11/30/2021 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15475108 Breeze_94 said:
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gone that the Giants will do their due diligence on QB's this offseason.

Judge was not here when Jones was drafted. He has zero ties to Jones and neither will the new FO.

Whether it's the trade market (Wilson, Garopollo) or the draft (Corral, Pickett), don't expect the Giants to sit on their hands instead of looking to upgrade.

This is how I see it.
RE: RE: I'd expect with Gettleman  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2021 8:53 pm : link
In comment 15475125 Sean said:
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gone that the Giants will do their due diligence on QB's this offseason.

Judge was not here when Jones was drafted. He has zero ties to Jones and neither will the new FO.

Whether it's the trade market (Wilson, Garopollo) or the draft (Corral, Pickett), don't expect the Giants to sit on their hands instead of looking to upgrade.


This is how I see it.


I have a feeling it will be trade market or FA.. Wilson or Rodgers..
I hope this is not a repeat  
SJGiant : 11/30/2021 8:57 pm : link
of what happened to David Wilson's career as a running back for the Giants.

RE: I hope this is not a repeat  
SJGiant : 11/30/2021 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15475134 SJGiant said:
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of what happened to David Wilson's career as a running back for the Giants.


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In 2013, Wilson was placed on season-ending injured reserve after he suffered what doctors called spinal stenosis in Week 5 against the Philadelphia Eagles. Doctors had told Wilson that he faced an increased risk of a neck injury if he ever played again. Wilson underwent neck surgery on January 16, 2014. On August 4, 2014, he was ruled out for the year due to his neck again. He was advised not to play football again because of recurring neck injuries and announced his retirement from the NFL on August 6, 2014.
Sick of Jones and Barkley constantly being injured.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/30/2021 9:04 pm : link
Time to move on from both.
First of all the Giants medical staff is excellent and highly regarded  
plato : 11/30/2021 9:08 pm : link
The fool who suggested otherwise is twice a fool because he knows nothing and yaks about it.
2. We don’t know where Jones is in the evaluation process. What have the Giants found on physical exam, anything to question nerve injury. What imaging studies have been done and what do they show. We don’t know.
3. So everything is speculation. My guess is it’s more than a sore neck, as the Giants have said “may” as far as I can tell and not “won’t. The pick up of another qb though certainly leads one to conclude ‘won’t” is the more likely thought of the medical staff.
4. It just makes this season like those previous seasons of horror when the Giants were limited by ineptititude compounded by bad luck.
RE: Sick of Jones and Barkley constantly being injured.  
Sean : 11/30/2021 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15475149 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Time to move on from both.

People will think this is insensitive, but how do you argue it? I hope Jones recovers, but I don’t want to rely on him at QB beyond this season.
RE: I hope this is not a repeat  
Bill in UT : 11/30/2021 9:28 pm : link
In comment 15475134 SJGiant said:
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of what happened to David Wilson's career as a running back for the Giants.


Wilson had a genetic disorder not related to any football injury, although a football injury afterwards could cause him severe problems
I miss Eli  
aimrocky : 11/30/2021 9:31 pm : link
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RE: First of all the Giants medical staff is excellent and highly regarded  
Bill in UT : 11/30/2021 9:34 pm : link
In comment 15475154 plato said:
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The fool who suggested otherwise is twice a fool because he knows nothing and yaks about it.


Highly regarded by who? The NY populace who think that any doctor with a high class hospital affiliation is a genius? The Giants' medical staff is a bunch of high-priced hacks under the thumb of the organization. In all the years I've been watching, they get a lot more wrong than they get right.
I didnt like  
Mark from Jersey : 11/30/2021 10:08 pm : link
the match up against Miami...I ran to get the -3. I see its already to -5.
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christian : 11/30/2021 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15475101 bw in dc said:
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If Mike Glennon leads this team to the playoffs, that’ll be something.



Beat me to the punch. ;)


I believe we’ve discussed before — I love a controlled test.

If Mike Glennon gives you similar results, that will require serious quarterback soul searching.
This is what I think for someone in high levels of Corp America  
NJBlueTuna : 11/30/2021 10:20 pm : link
Look, no matter what you think of Jones, we all agree he is tough as nails. Anyone who says otherwise, going back to his Duke days, is a full of crap agenda pumper.

Considering DJ played the rest of the game; hard to tell what that meant tbh. He is a tough gamer and wanted the win?

Did it feel worse the next day? Likely.

But hearing about this on a Tuesday is weird especially cause it became obvious we signed Fromm.

If Fromm does well, I think Jones can get Pipped and lose his job. How can he not? Coaches are fighting for their lives right now. I know I the DJ love feast clan will stone me. But this is a bigger sign than most think.

In full transparency, I was the one who said Loerenzo Carter was done after his injury and production the last couple of years. I got stoned for that. I think this is the first time that I ever thought DJ wasn’t in the plans. This will be a massive blow if that’s true Re what the organization has to do now in addition to fixing the OL and getting another edge rusher. I guess que the Wilson zealots? What a mistake that would be.

I just saw a tweet that Jones is OUT for REST of season.  
Kev in Cali : 11/30/2021 10:24 pm : link
Shutting him down for this "neck"injury. All the QB moves make more sense now.
As long as we get the highlight freaks  
bluewave : 11/30/2021 10:25 pm : link
drooling over other running QBs our quarterback will continue to get hurt. Doesn't take a ton of smarts or research to compare the health of drop back quarterbacks to running quarterbacks. Stop running Daniel Jones! Get an OL and let the running backs do that job! That's why their called 'Running' backs!
RE: RE: First of all the Giants medical staff is excellent and highly regarded  
dancing blue bear : 11/30/2021 10:32 pm : link
In comment 15475188 Bill in UT said:
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The fool who suggested otherwise is twice a fool because he knows nothing and yaks about it.




Highly regarded by who? The NY populace who think that any doctor with a high class hospital affiliation is a genius? The Giants' medical staff is a bunch of high-priced hacks under the thumb of the organization. In all the years I've been watching, they get a lot more wrong than they get right.


The giants medical staff is the hospital for special surgery in Manhattan. It’s renowned. Google it.
RE: I just saw a tweet that Jones is OUT for REST of season.  
NJBlueTuna : 11/30/2021 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15475257 Kev in Cali said:
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Shutting him down for this "neck"injury. All the QB moves make more sense now.


IF this is true, we may have seen the last of DJ as it allows a clean reset under Judge

Facts:

DJ was not judges pick
Front office LOVES judge
OC gone and it’s coming out it was Bc of Judge
A new QB buys Judge more time

It’s not hard math
RE: RE: I just saw a tweet that Jones is OUT for REST of season.  
Scooter185 : 11/30/2021 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15475272 NJBlueTuna said:
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Shutting him down for this "neck"injury. All the QB moves make more sense now.



IF this is true, we may have seen the last of DJ as it allows a clean reset under Judge

Facts:

DJ was not judges pick
Front office LOVES judge
OC gone and it’s coming out it was Bc of Judge
A new QB buys Judge more time

It’s not hard math


Loves is an understatement. Kay said today on his show that he heard Judge could "take a ball peen hammer to the windows of John Mara's car, and relieve himself on the leather seats and not get fired"
Here's the play where he got hurt  
Go Terps : 11/30/2021 11:08 pm : link
People criticize the thought of having a mobile quarterback, but part of it is the guy has to know how to avoid contact. Know when, where, and how to slide.

Jones basically offers himself up to get decapitated, and it's lucky it wasn't worse.
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