and why should we expect anything different from Toney. Not many examples of players who come into this league always injured, miraculously stop getting injured. This organization is the worst. He was hurt in College with one healthy year and stepping up into an even more physical league is suppose to change that?
Patricia Traina
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Judge on why solder is starting ahead of Peart: said they they like they way Nate works. But adds that Peart is progressing.
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@DDuggan21
Judge said he’s not ruling anything out with Daniel Jones. Judge made it sound like Jones will have a normal workload in practice today.
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@RVacchianoSNY
Giants QB Daniel Jones was on the field and stretching with his team during the very short period open to the media today.
Pat Leonard
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@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Giants waited a long time for media to exit before starting their 11 on 11 period (which we are not allowed to report on). A lot of the injured players were on side fields today, but WR John Ross, TE Kaden Smith and edge Trent Harris were absent.
Ralph Vacchiano
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Giants QB Daniel Jones was indeed practicing today. As Joe Judge said, he’s expected to take first-team reps. I’d guess he’ll be listed as “limited” later, but we’ll see.
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Sterling Shepard looked like someone who is on track to play this week. Adoree' Jackson was doing some stuff that makes it seem like he could play Sunday. Would not expect Toney or Rudolph to make it based on my 5 minutes of observations.
1) i don't believe a thing Judge says about Jones in either direction. We shall see Sunday.
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
1) i don't believe a thing Judge says about Jones in either direction. We shall see Sunday.
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
Fromm isn't going to know more about the Phins than our current QB coach (who coached in Miami) and DC (also coached in Miami).
Doesn't Judge go in and ask his training staff why there are so many
1) i don't believe a thing Judge says about Jones in either direction. We shall see Sunday.
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
All the talent in the world (and I am not even saying Toney has that yet because the sample size has been too small) isn't worth a thing if you can't play. I thought I had heard that Toney was oft injured in college and it appears, if that is true, the trend is continuing. I hope this pick was not wasted, but I am starting to fear that it might have been.
1) i don't believe a thing Judge says about Jones in either direction. We shall see Sunday.
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
Fromm isn't going to know more about the Phins than our current QB coach (who coached in Miami) and DC (also coached in Miami).
Eric- he will certainly know more about what they ran play wise- what he was to do scout team wise- come on... The played them twice this year- ie not old information from 2 years ago. I am literally saying Frohm is here for a reason and it isn't for future growth etc., he knows the phins, can help prepare and provide inside info from the two games they played.
1) i don't believe a thing Judge says about Jones in either direction. We shall see Sunday.
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
All the talent in the world (and I am not even saying Toney has that yet because the sample size has been too small) isn't worth a thing if you can't play. I thought I had heard that Toney was oft injured in college and it appears, if that is true, the trend is continuing. I hope this pick was not wasted, but I am starting to fear that it might have been.
Toney really only had two injuries in college and both were his shoulder. The ankle injury this year was unfortunate and I feel like the quad may have been something he tweaked compensating for the ankle. I think he's going to have to deal with these the rest of 2021 and then we'll have to see how he responds after healing up in the offseason.
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Giants are making Daniel Jones available to the media today.
That seems significant.
They usually don’t make players available who are dealing with major injuries.
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Daniel Jones has a strained neck. Nothing beyond that, he says. Thinks there is a chance he plays Sunday vs. #Dolphins. “Yeah, I’m going through the week preparing to play.”
He gets hurt on 2nd play of the game but finishes the game and there is no sign of any injury until Monday. On Tuesday we sign Fromm and there are reports that he's out for sure this week and possibly the rest of the season. Only to have him fully practice and meet with the media on Wednesday, both strong indications that a player is going to play that particular week.
I’m extremely happy it sounds like Jones is not as injured as some reports/tweets were trying to suggest. But I must admit I was kinda looking forward to seeing Glennon get a full weeks practice in and start on Sunday. Just the curious side of me wanting to see if there is any notable difference with Glennon in there. The one thing about Glennon is he’s known to be a guy that likes to throw downfield, for better or worse. I was curious to see if he was capable of this with the OL issues. That would have possibly told us something one way or another. Or not.
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Giants Injury Report 12/1
LIMITED:
QB Daniel Jones (Neck)
DNP:
LB Trent Harris (Ankle)
FB Cullen Gillaspia (Calf)
DB Adoree Jackson (Quad)
WR John Ross (Illness)
TE Kyle Rudolph (Ankle)
WR Sterling Shepard (Quad)
TE Kaden Smith (Knee)
WR Kadarius Toney (Oblique/Quad)
I can't believe what's happened with Shepard and Toney
Well...actually I can believe Shepard based on his history but Toney's rookie season is becoming a wash except for the Dallas game where he looked like a dynamic playmaker.
I understand the people who feel like they want to move on from Jones but if we were supposed to be seeing him with some semblance of an offensive line and/or a healthy compliment of skill players, he's pretty much had neither.
RE: I can't believe what's happened with Shepard and Toney
Well...actually I can believe Shepard based on his history but Toney's rookie season is becoming a wash except for the Dallas game where he looked like a dynamic playmaker.
I understand the people who feel like they want to move on from Jones but if we were supposed to be seeing him with some semblance of an offensive line and/or a healthy compliment of skill players, he's pretty much had neither.
I can't recall ever seeing "Oblique" on an injury report. Good times.
RE: RE: I can't believe what's happened with Shepard and Toney
Well...actually I can believe Shepard based on his history but Toney's rookie season is becoming a wash except for the Dallas game where he looked like a dynamic playmaker.
I understand the people who feel like they want to move on from Jones but if we were supposed to be seeing him with some semblance of an offensive line and/or a healthy compliment of skill players, he's pretty much had neither.
I can't recall ever seeing "Oblique" on an injury report. Good times.
I will probably get laughed at, but I would like to have that Dallas game back. I would like to see how that game plays out if Jones, Barkley and Golladay don't leave the game hurt.
Golladay, Barkley and Toney were all rounding into shape starting with the Saints game the week before after dealing with offseason injuries or recovery from previous injuries. As soon as it looked like they were getting their legs under them, all got hurt again.
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Judge said Fromm was signed as insurance with the Jones injury. They also liked him coming out of college.
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@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge was asked if Daniel Jones’ injury could be season-ending. He said no. #Giants
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@RVacchianoSNY
Asked if he’s concerned the neck injury could be season-ending for Daniel Jones, Joe Judge said “At this moment, no.”
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We’ll see how much Jones does. Still seems like a long shot to play on Sunday.
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@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said Kadarius Toney, Sterling Shepard and Adoree Jackson will just work with trainers today. #Giants
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@Patricia_Traina
Judge on why solder is starting ahead of Peart: said they they like they way Nate works. But adds that Peart is progressing.
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@DDuggan21
Judge said he’s not ruling anything out with Daniel Jones. Judge made it sound like Jones will have a normal workload in practice today.
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Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Jake Fromm wearing No. 17 #Giants
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@RVacchianoSNY
Giants QB Daniel Jones was on the field and stretching with his team during the very short period open to the media today.
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@JordanRaanan
Daniel Jones at practice. Practicing. Taking reps. Sunday is definitely in play. #giants #dolphins
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Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Giants waited a long time for media to exit before starting their 11 on 11 period (which we are not allowed to report on). A lot of the injured players were on side fields today, but WR John Ross, TE Kaden Smith and edge Trent Harris were absent.
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Giants QB Daniel Jones was indeed practicing today. As Joe Judge said, he’s expected to take first-team reps. I’d guess he’ll be listed as “limited” later, but we’ll see.
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Other injuries: Didn’t see WR John Ross (had a quad last week), TE Kaden Smith (knee) or LB Trent Harris (ankle).
FB Cullen Gillaspia (calf), WR Kadarius Toney (quad) and TE Kyle Rudolph (ankle) were on side.
CB Adoree’ Jackson (quad) and WR Sterling Shepard (quad) stretched.
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Sterling Shepard looked like someone who is on track to play this week. Adoree' Jackson was doing some stuff that makes it seem like he could play Sunday. Would not expect Toney or Rudolph to make it based on my 5 minutes of observations.
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Judge said Fromm was signed as insurance with the Jones injury. They also liked him coming out of college.
Man I thought he underwhelmed in college. I know Georgia won a bunch but he did not look like an NFL player to me. Weak arm, not super decisive.
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Patricia Traina
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Judge said Fromm was signed as insurance with the Jones injury. They also liked him coming out of college.
Man I thought he underwhelmed in college. I know Georgia won a bunch but he did not look like an NFL player to me. Weak arm, not super decisive.
The fact that the Giants liked him coming out is all you need to know.
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
Fromm isn't going to know more about the Phins than our current QB coach (who coached in Miami) and DC (also coached in Miami).
Don't these players go through flexibility training as part of their warm-ups.
I heard the Eagles dedicate a great amount of time with their skill players going through flexibility drills before they even go outside.
I haven't seen Davonte Smith go down with any strain injuries this year...or Reagor....I know there are freak injuries...
But my god.....Can we get our training staff up to date on flexibility and leg muscle loosening?
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
All the talent in the world (and I am not even saying Toney has that yet because the sample size has been too small) isn't worth a thing if you can't play. I thought I had heard that Toney was oft injured in college and it appears, if that is true, the trend is continuing. I hope this pick was not wasted, but I am starting to fear that it might have been.
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1) i don't believe a thing Judge says about Jones in either direction. We shall see Sunday.
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
Fromm isn't going to know more about the Phins than our current QB coach (who coached in Miami) and DC (also coached in Miami).
Eric- he will certainly know more about what they ran play wise- what he was to do scout team wise- come on... The played them twice this year- ie not old information from 2 years ago. I am literally saying Frohm is here for a reason and it isn't for future growth etc., he knows the phins, can help prepare and provide inside info from the two games they played.
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1) i don't believe a thing Judge says about Jones in either direction. We shall see Sunday.
2) Toney has missed a ton of time and it is very hard to see what he can bring to the team on a regular basis knowing he gets hurt almost every game he plays and misses a number of games overall.
3) Frohm doesn't mean anything now (in terms of playing) or long term. He is here because of his exposure to the Phins two times already this season.
4) Rudolph being out again and Smith possibly out means once again we have no real blocking from the TE position and will need OLmen as blocking TE's.
5) I don't care who the QB is this week, we need to go up tempo.
All the talent in the world (and I am not even saying Toney has that yet because the sample size has been too small) isn't worth a thing if you can't play. I thought I had heard that Toney was oft injured in college and it appears, if that is true, the trend is continuing. I hope this pick was not wasted, but I am starting to fear that it might have been.
Toney really only had two injuries in college and both were his shoulder. The ankle injury this year was unfortunate and I feel like the quad may have been something he tweaked compensating for the ankle. I think he's going to have to deal with these the rest of 2021 and then we'll have to see how he responds after healing up in the offseason.
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Giants are making Daniel Jones available to the media today.
That seems significant.
They usually don’t make players available who are dealing with major injuries.
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@JordanRaanan
Daniel Jones has a strained neck. Nothing beyond that, he says. Thinks there is a chance he plays Sunday vs. #Dolphins. “Yeah, I’m going through the week preparing to play.”
NY Post - ( New Window )
He gets hurt on 2nd play of the game but finishes the game and there is no sign of any injury until Monday. On Tuesday we sign Fromm and there are reports that he's out for sure this week and possibly the rest of the season. Only to have him fully practice and meet with the media on Wednesday, both strong indications that a player is going to play that particular week.
@Dan_Salomone
Giants Injury Report 12/1
LIMITED:
QB Daniel Jones (Neck)
DNP:
LB Trent Harris (Ankle)
FB Cullen Gillaspia (Calf)
DB Adoree Jackson (Quad)
WR John Ross (Illness)
TE Kyle Rudolph (Ankle)
WR Sterling Shepard (Quad)
TE Kaden Smith (Knee)
WR Kadarius Toney (Oblique/Quad)
I understand the people who feel like they want to move on from Jones but if we were supposed to be seeing him with some semblance of an offensive line and/or a healthy compliment of skill players, he's pretty much had neither.
I understand the people who feel like they want to move on from Jones but if we were supposed to be seeing him with some semblance of an offensive line and/or a healthy compliment of skill players, he's pretty much had neither.
I can't recall ever seeing "Oblique" on an injury report. Good times.
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Well...actually I can believe Shepard based on his history but Toney's rookie season is becoming a wash except for the Dallas game where he looked like a dynamic playmaker.
I understand the people who feel like they want to move on from Jones but if we were supposed to be seeing him with some semblance of an offensive line and/or a healthy compliment of skill players, he's pretty much had neither.
I can't recall ever seeing "Oblique" on an injury report. Good times.
I will probably get laughed at, but I would like to have that Dallas game back. I would like to see how that game plays out if Jones, Barkley and Golladay don't leave the game hurt.
Golladay, Barkley and Toney were all rounding into shape starting with the Saints game the week before after dealing with offseason injuries or recovery from previous injuries. As soon as it looked like they were getting their legs under them, all got hurt again.
Solder needs to ride the damn pine.