Has to be Jack Campbell right now, Igor definitely in the discussion (with Markstrom (Markstrom has 5 shutouts already) and Jarry) IMO and obviously a lot of time, but Campbell has been every bit as good as Igor on a team traditionally let down by goaltending and one without stellar D.
Kreider has been great, everything we hoped he would be. Finally.
There was a time period when you could have argued he was Hank's successor. I don't know what's wrong with him. There's plenty out there that he'd like to be a #1 someplace. Rangers have certainly tried to trade him. You're not going to get that opportunity the way he's been playing. He just seems mentally check out.
There was a time period when you could have argued he was Hank's successor. I don't know what's wrong with him. There's plenty out there that he'd like to be a #1 someplace. Rangers have certainly tried to trade him. You're not going to get that opportunity the way he's been playing. He just seems mentally check out.
He looked decent at one point but Shesty was always the heir apparent. His resume was always too good. He was being called the czar before playing a single NHL game by Rangers fans.
Nice to see the Rangers finally have a good goaltender.
Kakko is turning into a beast, wish he was able to get that ENG. 7 points in 7 games. He missed some time, but I'll say he hits 45-50 points this year.
Chytil looks great too but lacks the production.
RE: Nice to see the Rangers finally have a good goaltender.
A bunch of teams apparently are bugging Vancouver about JT Miller. The Rangers are said to be one of them. Never should have dealt him in the first place. Link - ( New Window )
RE: Kakko is quickly becoming my favorite current Ranger
With most everything that was discussed. Rangers had a great 1st period but the Flyers had the better of the play the last 2. Until they can dominate the weaker teams for 60 minutes and not rely on IGOR for most of the game I am still a bit skeptical.
A bunch of teams apparently are bugging Vancouver about JT Miller. The Rangers are said to be one of them. Never should have dealt him in the first place. Link - ( New Window )
trying to capitalize on a locker room mutiny, players lining up behind Bo Horvat or JT Miller.
One of those two (Horvat or Miller) candidates to be moved.
but I think the real problem is Brock Boeser. Maybe a Jake DeBrusk (plus) trade for Brock Boeser.
If I had to guess though I'd say Horvat gets moved before Miller.
A bunch of teams apparently are bugging Vancouver about JT Miller. The Rangers are said to be one of them. Never should have dealt him in the first place. Link - ( New Window )
Eh, pass. I don’t think Miller offers us anything that Strome and Chytil don’t
RE: RE: Kakko is quickly becoming my favorite current Ranger
He's just rock solid in every phase and the points are starting to come.
Hossa clone essentially. He will truly break out when he is on PP1.
This is the name that comes to mind for me often. Now of course that's high praise, Hossa just made the hall of fame. But just that really strong two way player with consistent 60-70ish point production, maybe a season or two here and there with more than that. I think that's a realistic ceiling to be honest. I love his game right now
Rangers have settled in nicely here after that tough road schedule to start the season. Didn't love how reliant they were on Igor to start but those points they banked were valuable and now they're finding their game. If a trade for a second line winger comes about they could really take off. Fun times.
Rangers have settled in nicely here after that tough road schedule to start the season. Didn't love how reliant they were on Igor to start but those points they banked were valuable and now they're finding their game. If a trade for a second line winger comes about they could really take off. Fun times.
Someone like Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues would be great.
A bunch of teams apparently are bugging Vancouver about JT Miller. The Rangers are said to be one of them. Never should have dealt him in the first place. Link - ( New Window )
Eh, pass. I don’t think Miller offers us anything that Strome and Chytil don’t
Serioiusly? Leadership, toughness, money on the face offs, etc.
With most everything that was discussed. Rangers had a great 1st period but the Flyers had the better of the play the last 2. Until they can dominate the weaker teams for 60 minutes and not rely on IGOR for most of the game I am still a bit skeptical.
Agree with the sentiment but its hard to complain in a 4-1 win. Shouldn't have let the penalty throw us off. legit thought it was going to be 6-0 the way it was going. And in reality it should have been 4-0 before the penalty if the refs didn't fuck up.
A bunch of teams apparently are bugging Vancouver about JT Miller. The Rangers are said to be one of them. Never should have dealt him in the first place. Link - ( New Window )
Eh, pass. I don’t think Miller offers us anything that Strome and Chytil don’t
Serioiusly? Leadership, toughness, money on the face offs, etc.
Does Strome even take defensive zone face offs?
What Brett said. We don’t need Miller. I’d rather go after Reilly Smith.
With most everything that was discussed. Rangers had a great 1st period but the Flyers had the better of the play the last 2. Until they can dominate the weaker teams for 60 minutes and not rely on IGOR for most of the game I am still a bit skeptical.
Agree with the sentiment but its hard to complain in a 4-1 win. Shouldn't have let the penalty throw us off. legit thought it was going to be 6-0 the way it was going. And in reality it should have been 4-0 before the penalty if the refs didn't fuck up.
A bunch of teams apparently are bugging Vancouver about JT Miller. The Rangers are said to be one of them. Never should have dealt him in the first place. Link - ( New Window )
Eh, pass. I don’t think Miller offers us anything that Strome and Chytil don’t
Serioiusly? Leadership, toughness, money on the face offs, etc.
Does Strome even take defensive zone face offs?
What Brett said. We don’t need Miller. I’d rather go after Reilly Smith.
Rangers have settled in nicely here after that tough road schedule to start the season. Didn't love how reliant they were on Igor to start but those points they banked were valuable and now they're finding their game. If a trade for a second line winger comes about they could really take off. Fun times.
Someone like Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues would be great.
Lol but is he gritty enough??
Blais was decent in his short time before injury but damn I sort of wish they'd just let Buch walk in UFA after this season and held onto him for one more season for whatever run they might be able to make this year. They could have fit him in for a year. Such an underwhelming return
Strome has never fully won me over either, and playing with Panarin certainly is nice, but our fanbase has been trying to run him out of town for years now and he sort of just keeps producing. 155 points in 201 games as a Ranger is not bad at all. 0.75 PPG is better than Derek Stepan's time here, for example.
Rangers have settled in nicely here after that tough road schedule to start the season. Didn't love how reliant they were on Igor to start but those points they banked were valuable and now they're finding their game. If a trade for a second line winger comes about they could really take off. Fun times.
Someone like Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues would be great.
I have heard he is a good player. Do you think Rangers could get him for someone like Blais and a second rounder?
Rangers have settled in nicely here after that tough road schedule to start the season. Didn't love how reliant they were on Igor to start but those points they banked were valuable and now they're finding their game. If a trade for a second line winger comes about they could really take off. Fun times.
Someone like Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues would be great.
I have heard he is a good player. Do you think Rangers could get him for someone like Blais and a second rounder?
I heard that and so have a few people on Rangers Twitter, apparently.
I'm shocked, a NY team kicks player once he leaves town.
and some people think it's only Boston who does that. They all do, makes trades/non-signs look better.
lol, well I think that's why he was moved from TB so quickly as well.
Definitely possible - but Miller was there for at least a little while before TB signed him long-term. I just took it at face value he was a cap casualty in TB.
He was getting paid 1st line money for being a 3rd line center (on TB). With Stamkos and Point ahead of him and Killorn and Cirrelli providing depth - the Lightning were loaded down the middle, JT Miller was a luxury.
They got a 1st and a 3rd for him from VAN which other than Howden and Hajek (not completely dismissing them) is comparable to what the Rangers got from TB for Miller and McDonagh when those guys were two years younger.
He was crucified early on as the current iteration of late career Staal or Girardi, Jack Johnson, etc. but this guy has really settled in as a solid lockdown 3rd pair defender. He and Lundkvist had their best game last night, in my opinion. Trouba continues to play more and more like the player we thought we were getting when he was acquired as well. Having a 3rd pair that is not a complete liability (except when Tinordi has been in) has made a huge difference.
I'm also really impressed with this forward group, you can see them all coming together. Mika is not scoring goals, but he's generating offense and playing a good two way game. Panarin has really picked it up after a slow start, same with Kakko. I wish Chytil could finish a little better, because he has been electric with and without the puck. They have turned into a legitimate 4-line team. They are getting better as the season progresses, starting to do a better job suppressing opposing shots and generating more of their own, and as long as Igor is in net, they're going to have a chance to win every game.
maybe we underestimate the challenges of moving to new team, system, mates, city, etc. I thought also that one of the reasons for his signing was to give Lundkvist a Swedish speaking backline mate to ease his transition. He's really young...looks the part
I think Nemeth still sucks but that Lunkvist has settled in.
Struggles defensively with gap control and it leads to relying on his athleticism to make up for it, sometimes it doesn't work against speed players (the McDavid play for one but who doesn't struggle with McDavid's speed).
He also still struggles sometimes with coverage, what I mean is which guy is his when there are multiple.
that said, he's a massive improvement over Staal, Brendan Smith, late career Girardi, and the other stiffs they've had on the blue line the past few years and I think he's coachable and oozing athleticism so he's definitely a net positive, but I won't sugarcoat it, he's got some work to do.
I would agree, and a lot of it makes sense considering he's still relatively new to playing defense. Those finer points of playing the position aren't quite there yet. I think he was switched to D at age 16 with the USNTDP. Then jumped right into the NHL from college, he's handled it relatively well all things considered. The skating ability and athleticism is what you dream on for that position though. I'm overall happy with his progress.
My one real gripe is that he plays a very finesse style for a guy of his size and strength. I don't mind that so much with forwards, but with defensemen I'd like to see more physicality to his game.
pj, the way I sum Miller up is: "It's clear he is a converted forward". Clearly uses his athleticism as a crutch, but he's made strides.
Brent Burns took a long time to click.
Absolutely agree, I think Miller is probably ahead of where Burns was at similar age.
I meant what I said to be in no way negative. Miller will be a star in this league if he gets the right coaching and people have some patience. I already like him on the PP.
He's just scratching the surface. His size, length and skating ability have helped him overcome his deficiencies on defense due to a lack of experience. As the years go on, he'll only improve.
RE: Miller's still a work in progress and that's fine
My one real gripe is that he plays a very finesse style for a guy of his size and strength. I don't mind that so much with forwards, but with defensemen I'd like to see more physicality to his game.
it kills me, it killed me with players like Joe Thornton too because people will say a lot of things are not teachable, but I believe the only thing not teachable is size.
but like you say, Thornton is a forward and you can live with his finesse game at F (plus he was putting up Hart level #'s), I'd also like Miller to be more physical, it may be a timing thing and it will come as he gets more comfortable with the NHL pace.
He's going to be an UFA at the end of the year and we likely won't be able to afford to bring him back. So do we trade him now and get something for him or just let him walk at the end of the season? I lean towards the latter because we are "going for it" and his chemistry with Panarin is too valuable. Plus, he's the best 2C option we have.
Just hope he plays Friday. Bringing my Son to his 1st game for his his birthday and I have been dreading seeing Georgiev.
Has to be Jack Campbell right now, Igor definitely in the discussion (with Markstrom (Markstrom has 5 shutouts already) and Jarry) IMO and obviously a lot of time, but Campbell has been every bit as good as Igor on a team traditionally let down by goaltending and one without stellar D.
Hard to argue with that. I just wish he had a more reliable backup.
He looked decent at one point but Shesty was always the heir apparent. His resume was always too good. He was being called the czar before playing a single NHL game by Rangers fans.
Chytil looks great too but lacks the production.
now if they could only get some ping pong ball luck like the f-ing Penguins.
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Hossa clone essentially. He will truly break out when he is on PP1.
trying to capitalize on a locker room mutiny, players lining up behind Bo Horvat or JT Miller.
One of those two (Horvat or Miller) candidates to be moved.
but I think the real problem is Brock Boeser. Maybe a Jake DeBrusk (plus) trade for Brock Boeser.
If I had to guess though I'd say Horvat gets moved before Miller.
Eh, pass. I don’t think Miller offers us anything that Strome and Chytil don’t
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He's just rock solid in every phase and the points are starting to come.
Hossa clone essentially. He will truly break out when he is on PP1.
This is the name that comes to mind for me often. Now of course that's high praise, Hossa just made the hall of fame. But just that really strong two way player with consistent 60-70ish point production, maybe a season or two here and there with more than that. I think that's a realistic ceiling to be honest. I love his game right now
Someone like Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues would be great.
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A bunch of teams apparently are bugging Vancouver about JT Miller. The Rangers are said to be one of them. Never should have dealt him in the first place. Link - ( New Window )
Eh, pass. I don’t think Miller offers us anything that Strome and Chytil don’t
Serioiusly? Leadership, toughness, money on the face offs, etc.
Does Strome even take defensive zone face offs?
Agree with the sentiment but its hard to complain in a 4-1 win. Shouldn't have let the penalty throw us off. legit thought it was going to be 6-0 the way it was going. And in reality it should have been 4-0 before the penalty if the refs didn't fuck up.
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A bunch of teams apparently are bugging Vancouver about JT Miller. The Rangers are said to be one of them. Never should have dealt him in the first place. Link - ( New Window )
Eh, pass. I don’t think Miller offers us anything that Strome and Chytil don’t
Serioiusly? Leadership, toughness, money on the face offs, etc.
Does Strome even take defensive zone face offs?
What Brett said. We don’t need Miller. I’d rather go after Reilly Smith.
Agree with the sentiment but its hard to complain in a 4-1 win. Shouldn't have let the penalty throw us off. legit thought it was going to be 6-0 the way it was going. And in reality it should have been 4-0 before the penalty if the refs didn't fuck up.
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A bunch of teams apparently are bugging Vancouver about JT Miller. The Rangers are said to be one of them. Never should have dealt him in the first place. Link - ( New Window )
Eh, pass. I don’t think Miller offers us anything that Strome and Chytil don’t
Serioiusly? Leadership, toughness, money on the face offs, etc.
Does Strome even take defensive zone face offs?
What Brett said. We don’t need Miller. I’d rather go after Reilly Smith.
Agree. Or Horvat.
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Rangers have settled in nicely here after that tough road schedule to start the season. Didn't love how reliant they were on Igor to start but those points they banked were valuable and now they're finding their game. If a trade for a second line winger comes about they could really take off. Fun times.
Someone like Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues would be great.
Lol but is he gritty enough??
Blais was decent in his short time before injury but damn I sort of wish they'd just let Buch walk in UFA after this season and held onto him for one more season for whatever run they might be able to make this year. They could have fit him in for a year. Such an underwhelming return
Strome has never fully won me over either, and playing with Panarin certainly is nice, but our fanbase has been trying to run him out of town for years now and he sort of just keeps producing. 155 points in 201 games as a Ranger is not bad at all. 0.75 PPG is better than Derek Stepan's time here, for example.
I like Strome. He's underrated.
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Rangers have settled in nicely here after that tough road schedule to start the season. Didn't love how reliant they were on Igor to start but those points they banked were valuable and now they're finding their game. If a trade for a second line winger comes about they could really take off. Fun times.
Someone like Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues would be great.
I have heard he is a good player. Do you think Rangers could get him for someone like Blais and a second rounder?
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Rangers have settled in nicely here after that tough road schedule to start the season. Didn't love how reliant they were on Igor to start but those points they banked were valuable and now they're finding their game. If a trade for a second line winger comes about they could really take off. Fun times.
Someone like Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues would be great.
I have heard he is a good player. Do you think Rangers could get him for someone like Blais and a second rounder?
No way, that's way too low.
I heard that and so have a few people on Rangers Twitter, apparently.
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Is he an issue in the locker room?
I heard that and so have a few people on Rangers Twitter, apparently.
I'm shocked, a NY team kicks player once he leaves town.
and some people think it's only Boston who does that. They all do, makes trades/non-signs look better.
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Is he an issue in the locker room?
I heard that and so have a few people on Rangers Twitter, apparently.
I'm shocked, a NY team kicks player once he leaves town.
and some people think it's only Boston who does that. They all do, makes trades/non-signs look better.
lol, well I think that's why he was moved from TB so quickly as well.
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Is he an issue in the locker room?
I heard that and so have a few people on Rangers Twitter, apparently.
I'm shocked, a NY team kicks player once he leaves town.
and some people think it's only Boston who does that. They all do, makes trades/non-signs look better.
lol, well I think that's why he was moved from TB so quickly as well.
Definitely possible - but Miller was there for at least a little while before TB signed him long-term. I just took it at face value he was a cap casualty in TB.
He was getting paid 1st line money for being a 3rd line center (on TB). With Stamkos and Point ahead of him and Killorn and Cirrelli providing depth - the Lightning were loaded down the middle, JT Miller was a luxury.
They got a 1st and a 3rd for him from VAN which other than Howden and Hajek (not completely dismissing them) is comparable to what the Rangers got from TB for Miller and McDonagh when those guys were two years younger.
I'm also really impressed with this forward group, you can see them all coming together. Mika is not scoring goals, but he's generating offense and playing a good two way game. Panarin has really picked it up after a slow start, same with Kakko. I wish Chytil could finish a little better, because he has been electric with and without the puck. They have turned into a legitimate 4-line team. They are getting better as the season progresses, starting to do a better job suppressing opposing shots and generating more of their own, and as long as Igor is in net, they're going to have a chance to win every game.
Struggles defensively with gap control and it leads to relying on his athleticism to make up for it, sometimes it doesn't work against speed players (the McDavid play for one but who doesn't struggle with McDavid's speed).
He also still struggles sometimes with coverage, what I mean is which guy is his when there are multiple.
that said, he's a massive improvement over Staal, Brendan Smith, late career Girardi, and the other stiffs they've had on the blue line the past few years and I think he's coachable and oozing athleticism so he's definitely a net positive, but I won't sugarcoat it, he's got some work to do.
Brent Burns took a long time to click.
My one real gripe is that he plays a very finesse style for a guy of his size and strength. I don't mind that so much with forwards, but with defensemen I'd like to see more physicality to his game.
Brent Burns took a long time to click.
Absolutely agree, I think Miller is probably ahead of where Burns was at similar age.
I meant what I said to be in no way negative. Miller will be a star in this league if he gets the right coaching and people have some patience. I already like him on the PP.
My one real gripe is that he plays a very finesse style for a guy of his size and strength. I don't mind that so much with forwards, but with defensemen I'd like to see more physicality to his game.
it kills me, it killed me with players like Joe Thornton too because people will say a lot of things are not teachable, but I believe the only thing not teachable is size.
but like you say, Thornton is a forward and you can live with his finesse game at F (plus he was putting up Hart level #'s), I'd also like Miller to be more physical, it may be a timing thing and it will come as he gets more comfortable with the NHL pace.
Rangers have 2 Norris winners, a Vezina winner, a future Art Ross winner (Laf), a current Art Ross Winner (Panerin), future Selke winner (Kakko).
And they'll blow it all up in two years for more grit. My body is ready.