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Dolphins vs Giants eerie similarities

gogiants : 12/2/2021 6:32 pm
The Dolphins are the Giants semi-identical AFC twin.

  • They are both ranked by PFF as having the two worst offensive lines as of week 10.
  • They both started the season at 1-5.
  • They have both come on strong in the last six weeks especially on defense.
  • They are both the 13th seed in the playoff race.
  • Over the last six weeks they both rank as a top ten defense.
  • For the year they are both ranked 13th in their conference for offense by Pro Football Reference based on a Simple Rating System.
  • Both head coaches are former Patriots coaches
  • Over last 6 weeks they rank 3rd and 4th in opponent passer rating.
  • Over the last 6 weeks they rank 5th ad 6th in takeaways.
  • Over the last 6 weeks they rank 4th and 5th in opponent completion percentage.

Here are the two teams stat rankings over the last six weeks.

Miami played ATL, BUF, HOU, BAL, NYJ, CAR
Giants Played CAR, KAN, LVR, TAM, PHI

Defense
NYG - 4th - Yards allowed per play
MIA - 10th

NYG - 2nd- Opponent Yards per pass attempt
MIA - 7th

NYG - 3rd - Opponent Passer Rating
MIA - 4th

NYG - 3rd - Points allowed
MIA - 10th

NYG - 6th - Takeaways
MIA - 5th

NYG - 6th - Opponent 3rd down conversion percent
MIA - 9th

NYG - 3rd - Opponent TD %
MIA - 6th

NYG - 5th - Opponent Comp %
MIA - 4th

NYG - 26th - Opponent Yds/Rush
MIA - 13th

NYG - 25th - QB Hits
MIA - 1st

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Offense
NYG - 26th - 3rd down conversion percent
MIA - 7th

NYG - 7th - Turnovers
MIA - 27th

NYG - 24th - Points scored
MIA - 17th

NYG - 18th - Passer Rating
MIA - 16th

NYG - 27th- Net Yards per pass attempt
MIA - 15th

NYG - 28th - Yards per play
MIA - 24th

NYG - 18th - TD%
MIA - 20th

NYG -11th - Completion %
MIA - 8th

NYG - 26th - Yds/Rush Att
MIA - 31st

The Giants have shown a bend but don't break mentality in leading the league over those games in opponent drives of 4+ first downs that did not result in a score.

Where the teams diverge on defense is pressure to the QB. Over the last six weeks the Dolphins lead the league in QB hits. The Giants are 26th in that time-frame.For the year the Dolphins have the second highest blitz percentage - second only to the Bucs. Both teams rank high on takeaways. However over the last six weeks the Dolphins rank 27th in turnovers to the Giants 7th place ranking with better ball control. The other big difference on defense is that the Giants over the last six weeks rank 26th in opponent yards per rush attempt to the Dolphins rank of 13th. The good news is the Dolphins rank 31st in offensive yards per rush attempt.

On offense over the last six weeks the Dolphins are ranked seventh in 3rd down conversion % to the Giants 26th ranking. The other big difference is the Dolphins rank 17th in points scored to the Giants 26th ranking.

In relation to red zone performance offensively the Dolphins get into the red zone more often averaging 3.66 trips per game over these six weeks. The Giants averaged 2.6 trips per game. For drives ending in the red zone the Dolphins came away with a touchdown on 59% of the drives to the Giants 46%. Defensively the Giants allowed more drives into the red zone averaging 4 per game to the Dolphins two per game. Once the drives entered the red zone the Giants were better defensively allowing a touchdown on just 35% of those drives to the Dolphins 50%.

The Giants and Dolphins over the last six weeks both had one drive that resulted in a touchdown from outside the red zone. The Dolphins gave up one such touchdown and the Giants had given up zero.

Though not the best of the league these two teams have a lot in common and are both fighting to move into playoff contention. This should be a close battle. One would think a low scoring game. They have the lowest over/under last I checked. But you can never tell - otherwise we'd all be rich.

The are also  
Bill in UT : 12/2/2021 7:05 pm : link
Erie similarities between Cleveland and Buffalo
LMAO.  
Red Dog : 12/2/2021 7:08 pm : link
Thanks, Bill. I needed that.
Lincoln's vice president was named Johnson.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/2/2021 7:13 pm : link
So was JFK. Lincoln was shot on a Friday. So was JFK. Lincoln was elected in the 1860 presidential election. JFK was elected in the 1960 presidential election. Lincoln lost a son while president. JFK lost a son while president.

Shall I go on?
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PakistanPete : 12/2/2021 8:22 pm : link
In comment 15477452 Bill in UT said:
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Erie similarities between Cleveland and Buffalo


In comment 15477460 Red Dog said:
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Thanks, Bill. I needed that.


In comment 15477464 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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So was JFK. Lincoln was shot on a Friday. So was JFK. Lincoln was elected in the 1860 presidential election. JFK was elected in the 1960 presidential election. Lincoln lost a son while president. JFK lost a son while president.

Shall I go on?


BBI in a nutshell. Go on, please, we'll all be dumber for it.
“You never wondered  
Chris684 : 12/2/2021 11:12 pm : link
about the back thing at No-chra Dame!?”
Good post  
armstead98 : 12/3/2021 4:53 am : link
Probably in for a low scoring affair
Here is a poster who writes a nice, thoughtful post  
Essex : 12/3/2021 6:36 am : link
and he gets ridiculed for it. Smh
Another similarity has been an injury-depleted receiving corps.  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/3/2021 8:15 am : link
Ironically, the guy whose supposed fragility was a concern, Jaylen Waddle, has been the mainstay. (The Dolphins mostly throw him short stuff and hope he can create - similar to our use of Toney.) Meanwhile, Will Fuller and DeVante Parker have made a total of one appearance since October 3rd. Parker returns this week, which could be a big deal with Adoree Jackson limping and the Giants' #3 and #4 CBs on IR. Fortunately, Logan Ryan is back.

As for the Giant receivers. it's another week where we just have to wait and see who makes the trip, and who dresses on Sunday.
RE: Lincoln's vice president was named Johnson.  
chick310 : 12/3/2021 8:28 am : link
In comment 15477464 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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So was JFK. Lincoln was shot on a Friday. So was JFK. Lincoln was elected in the 1860 presidential election. JFK was elected in the 1960 presidential election. Lincoln lost a son while president. JFK lost a son while president.

Shall I go on?


My other favorites on this

- Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy and told him not to go to the theater that night. Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln and told him not to go to Dallas.

- John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln in a theater and was later captured in a warehouse. Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy in a warehouse and was captured in a theater.
For me, the 2 most glaring differences  
Matt M. : 12/3/2021 8:37 am : link
are points scored and QB pressure. The Dolphins on offense get to the red zone a little more and score TDs there at a higher rate. Their O our D are an interesting matchup there. Jackson must be able to go 100% and Robinson needs to step up.

What worries me most is the Miami D. They are super aggressive. 2nd most blitzes overall and most blitzes by DBs. Unless we are both able to pick it up and/or able to make them pay, that will be the difference in the game, un my opinion. I hope I'm wrong, but this is where I see our undoing.
Both teams have bad O-lines  
X : 12/3/2021 8:56 am : link
Neither are good at running the ball. It should be a close game. Flores is a better coach than Judge IMO and that could decide the game.
Chick310: There's no evidence that Abe had a secretary named Kennedy.  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/3/2021 9:02 am : link
Much of that list has always been BS. The Snopes fact-check is almost as much fun as the list itself.
Snopes on the "Amazing" Lincoln-Kennedy coincidences - ( New Window )
RE: Chick310: There's no evidence that Abe had a secretary named Kennedy.  
chick310 : 12/3/2021 9:17 am : link
In comment 15477825 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Much of that list has always been BS. The Snopes fact-check is almost as much fun as the list itself. Snopes on the "Amazing" Lincoln-Kennedy coincidences - ( New Window )


Thanks BBB. I never knew that wasn't true when I first read it, and have mentioned it before in conversation so thanks for setting me straight!

I do like the theater/warehouse thing though.
RE: Here is a poster who writes a nice, thoughtful post  
BlueHurricane : 12/3/2021 9:43 am : link
In comment 15477742 Essex said:
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and he gets ridiculed for it. Smh


It’s the current world we live in. Thoughtfulness and conversation shot down for “hot takes” and snide comments. Social media and forums are fucking cesspools of faceless posters with no fear of repercussions for anything they type.

Back to the OP.

The one thing that post had me thinking about is the bend but don’t break D the Giants have been playing. It has been keeping points off the board but it is also keeping the D on the field and the O off of it.

Well SHIT. Now that I type that I can understand why they are doing it. I don’t want to watch our O either.
The one thing that stands out  
PakistanPete : 12/3/2021 7:25 pm : link
to me about BBI is that it often doesn't reflect the Giants fans I meet IRL.

Love the fact that the people who posted after me do. *bow*
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2021 7:42 pm : link
Some of y'all need to lighten up. The OP made some very good points about the SIMILARITIES between the 'Fins & Giants. I was just having some tongue in cheek fun at the word 'eerie'.
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gogiants : 12/4/2021 10:12 am : link
Thanks for the replies. I did not have a problem with them. They appeared as mild ribbing compared to some of the replies I see on this site. I appreciate all the replies that spoke up about antagonistic replies in general. Not related to the replies on this thread, but in general I often see posters attacked and insulted for having differing opinions and views. For mid-season to me there does not appear to be a lot of op posts compared to number of views. Granted the Giants are playing bad. But I wonder if more would post but don't want the hassle of being attacked and insulted. Anyway enjoy the game (hopefully).
Well, the NY Post appears to agree with the premise of this thread,  
Angel Eyes : 12/4/2021 5:22 pm : link
at least on the defense.
Giants, Dolphins’ defenses share common DNA: ‘Doesn’t happen by accident’ - ( New Window )
RE: ...  
River Mike : 12/5/2021 8:58 am : link
In comment 15478830 gogiants said:
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Thanks for the replies. I did not have a problem with them. They appeared as mild ribbing compared to some of the replies I see on this site. I appreciate all the replies that spoke up about antagonistic replies in general. Not related to the replies on this thread, but in general I often see posters attacked and insulted for having differing opinions and views. For mid-season to me there does not appear to be a lot of op posts compared to number of views. Granted the Giants are playing bad. But I wonder if more would post but don't want the hassle of being attacked and insulted. Anyway enjoy the game (hopefully).


Well, I have been on this site since it was Pete's Corner and before we had registration. I used to either start threads or comment on others on a regular basis, but no more. After a very long hiatus I decided a couple of weeks ago to post something I thought was mildly interesting ... not important, but interesting. The responses persuaded me that there is no reason for me to post and open myself to that nonsense from obvious assholes.
And yes,  
River Mike : 12/5/2021 9:00 am : link
I did just post and insult, but not personal
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