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Daniel Jones is out for Sunday

Essex : 12/3/2021 11:28 am
not cleared for contact according to Judge per all the beats on twitter.
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Would rather watch Fromm play  
Sean : 12/3/2021 11:30 am : link
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Ugh...  
trueblueinpw : 12/3/2021 11:36 am : link
Need to see him play. But the ONE thing NO ONE can question about DJ is his toughness. He's tough as a $2 steak. No doubt! If the man could play, there's no doubt in my mind that he would play.

Get better as soon as possible DJ!

I'd love to see the rest of the Giants step the fuck up and make some plays. Special Teams, Defense, Coaching and the rest of the Offense. Step the fuck up!
Kind of strange  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/3/2021 11:39 am : link
he's healthy enough to practice (granted he wears a red shirt), but not healthy enough to play.

I've got to think that if this was 1986 or even 2005, the quarterback would be playing.

If the neck is bad enough that they don't want any contact, I'm surprised they didn't IR him.
Any word on Toney?  
JFIB : 12/3/2021 11:41 am : link
Looked like he nd Glennon had a rapport on the field. Maybe we can see another big game out of him.
There's a massive difference between non-contact practice  
UberAlias : 12/3/2021 11:41 am : link
And live game though.
RE: Ugh...  
japanhead : 12/3/2021 11:41 am : link
In comment 15477980 trueblueinpw said:
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Need to see him play. But the ONE thing NO ONE can question about DJ is his toughness. He's tough as a $2 steak. No doubt! If the man could play, there's no doubt in my mind that he would play.

Get better as soon as possible DJ!

I'd love to see the rest of the Giants step the fuck up and make some plays. Special Teams, Defense, Coaching and the rest of the Offense. Step the fuck up!


i honestly don't understand praising the "toughness" of a player who misses time with injury every year - injuries that are a direct result of his playing with reckless abandon and not playing smart football.
I have a feeling this is a season ender  
Sean : 12/3/2021 11:43 am : link
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RE: Kind of strange  
Scooter185 : 12/3/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15477982 Eric from BBI said:
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he's healthy enough to practice (granted he wears a red shirt), but not healthy enough to play.

I've got to think that if this was 1986 or even 2005, the quarterback would be playing.

If the neck is bad enough that they don't want any contact, I'm surprised they didn't IR him.


This whole situation is very strange, starting with the carpenter tweet, Fromm signing, but DJ practicing and looking normal, and now not cleared by the docs. Also the wording I've seen twice now in tweets when Judge was asked if it's considered a season ending injury is "not yet"
Pat Leonard  
Essex : 12/3/2021 11:44 am : link
tried to start something at the press conference that the Giants mismanaged him by not checking it earlier. I think what he was trying to say was well it was a neck injury and shouldn't he have been checked out for a concussion given the prior neck injury. I mean Leonard just is looking to start the narrative we mismanaged him. I am critical of Judge, but come on. The dude showed no signs of being injured or concussed to any observer watching the game.
RE: Would rather watch Fromm play  
Walker Gillette : 12/3/2021 11:44 am : link
In comment 15477974 Sean said:
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Figure out what Arena League team he's going to be on and you can probably watch the games on Face Book.
Seems more and more like that tweet  
Blue Dream : 12/3/2021 11:45 am : link
A few days ago from that guy who is supposedly friends with Mara's Butler or whoever it was might be true and Jones is done for the year.
RE: Any word on Toney?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/3/2021 11:46 am : link
In comment 15477985 JFIB said:
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Looked like he nd Glennon had a rapport on the field. Maybe we can see another big game out of him.


He hasn't practiced all week. If he doesn't practice today, he's not playing.
Neck injuries are no joke  
BeckShepEli : 12/3/2021 11:47 am : link
Judge is trying to be mysterious, the carpenter could be right and be a season ending injury
RE: RE: Kind of strange  
UberAlias : 12/3/2021 11:48 am : link
In comment 15477989 Scooter185 said:
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he's healthy enough to practice (granted he wears a red shirt), but not healthy enough to play.

I've got to think that if this was 1986 or even 2005, the quarterback would be playing.

If the neck is bad enough that they don't want any contact, I'm surprised they didn't IR him.



This whole situation is very strange, starting with the carpenter tweet, Fromm signing, but DJ practicing and looking normal, and now not cleared by the docs. Also the wording I've seen twice now in tweets when Judge was asked if it's considered a season ending injury is "not yet"


This was covered: Joe Judge says at this time he still doesn’t believe injury is season ending. Asked what accounts for his hedging/gray area, Judge says “There’s no final decision on that. … There’s a gray area on when he could be cleared.”
RE: I have a feeling this is a season ender  
The Jake : 12/3/2021 11:48 am : link
In comment 15477988 Sean said:
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There's been some chatter on Twitter all week (nothing worth reposting here) that this is a season-ending injury.

If that's the case it's probably a Giants career-ending injury as well.
Sadly it does not matter  
averagejoe : 12/3/2021 11:49 am : link
He is not a difference maker when he plays. Giants have the fewest TD's in NFL. Hard to imagine this offense can be less effective .
In Glennon we trust  
jeff57 : 12/3/2021 11:50 am : link
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RE: Sadly it does not matter  
simgiant : 12/3/2021 11:52 am : link
In comment 15477998 averagejoe said:
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He is not a difference maker when he plays. Giants have the fewest TD's in NFL. Hard to imagine this offense can be less effective .

Sadly it can always get worse.
Daniel Jones is not proving he's the guy  
90.Cal : 12/3/2021 11:54 am : link
He's missed games due to injury every single year... His stats are the definition of pedestrian.
If we lose  
Aaroninma : 12/3/2021 11:55 am : link
I think its almost a lock that he will be shutdown for the season.

If we win, I think they will see what happens a bit.
Look for Jaelen Phillips  
jeff57 : 12/3/2021 11:56 am : link
To have a couple of sacks.
RE: RE: RE: Kind of strange  
Scooter185 : 12/3/2021 11:57 am : link
In comment 15477996 UberAlias said:
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he's healthy enough to practice (granted he wears a red shirt), but not healthy enough to play.

I've got to think that if this was 1986 or even 2005, the quarterback would be playing.

If the neck is bad enough that they don't want any contact, I'm surprised they didn't IR him.



This whole situation is very strange, starting with the carpenter tweet, Fromm signing, but DJ practicing and looking normal, and now not cleared by the docs. Also the wording I've seen twice now in tweets when Judge was asked if it's considered a season ending injury is "not yet"



This was covered: Joe Judge says at this time he still doesn’t believe injury is season ending. Asked what accounts for his hedging/gray area, Judge says “There’s no final decision on that. … There’s a gray area on when he could be cleared.”


Even with that comment this whole situation just feels bizarre
RE: Daniel Jones is not proving he's the guy  
cjac : 12/3/2021 11:58 am : link
In comment 15478001 90.Cal said:
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He's missed games due to injury every single year... His stats are the definition of pedestrian.


A pedestrian on crutches
Say what you want about Daniel Jones  
M.S. : 12/3/2021 11:58 am : link

The giANTS paltry number of TDs also comes at a time when they are fielding the worst O-Line in the league.
RE: Kind of strange  
Victor in CT : 12/3/2021 11:59 am : link
In comment 15477982 Eric from BBI said:
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he's healthy enough to practice (granted he wears a red shirt), but not healthy enough to play.

I've got to think that if this was 1986 or even 2005, the quarterback would be playing.

If the neck is bad enough that they don't want any contact, I'm surprised they didn't IR him.


agreed.
RE: RE: Ugh...  
trueblueinpw : 12/3/2021 11:59 am : link
In comment 15477987 japanhead said:
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i honestly don't understand praising the "toughness" of a player who misses time with injury every year - injuries that are a direct result of his playing with reckless abandon and not playing smart football.


Looking for the positive, just looking for the positive brother. But I’ve been plenty critical of other aspects of Jones’ work. Just not his toughness or work ethic or commitment.
RE: Pat Leonard  
Victor in CT : 12/3/2021 12:00 pm : link
In comment 15477990 Essex said:
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tried to start something at the press conference that the Giants mismanaged him by not checking it earlier. I think what he was trying to say was well it was a neck injury and shouldn't he have been checked out for a concussion given the prior neck injury. I mean Leonard just is looking to start the narrative we mismanaged him. I am critical of Judge, but come on. The dude showed no signs of being injured or concussed to any observer watching the game.


Leonard is an asshole. Sniveling little shit stirrer without a clue
Another week  
bronxct1 : 12/3/2021 12:00 pm : link
I guess while he can practice without issue if he's still feeling something it makes sense to not expose him to any hits and get him another week of healing.
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UberAlias : 12/3/2021 12:00 pm : link
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he's healthy enough to practice (granted he wears a red shirt), but not healthy enough to play.

I've got to think that if this was 1986 or even 2005, the quarterback would be playing.

If the neck is bad enough that they don't want any contact, I'm surprised they didn't IR him.



This whole situation is very strange, starting with the carpenter tweet, Fromm signing, but DJ practicing and looking normal, and now not cleared by the docs. Also the wording I've seen twice now in tweets when Judge was asked if it's considered a season ending injury is "not yet"



This was covered: Joe Judge says at this time he still doesn’t believe injury is season ending. Asked what accounts for his hedging/gray area, Judge says “There’s no final decision on that. … There’s a gray area on when he could be cleared.”



Even with that comment this whole situation just feels bizarre
Is it really? Not knowing the full extent of injury on day 1 is nothing unusual.
RE: Would rather watch Fromm play  
Go Terps : 12/3/2021 12:00 pm : link
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That would be something interesting to look forward to in an otherwise bleak season. I hope they can get a start out two out of him before the season is out.

Tough to see the Giants picking up Jones's option.
*Start or two  
Go Terps : 12/3/2021 12:01 pm : link
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I agree with JapanH  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/3/2021 12:01 pm : link
Some of his injuries have been being reckless. This one, if it is the play I am thinking of was on the coaches.

What is a trend is when he runs and you have contact it is iffy if he will get hurt or not. He is too big a target and he does not have a natural ability of protecting himself imo.
Love the finger pointing  
UberAlias : 12/3/2021 12:03 pm : link
It's football. There will be injuries.
The availability is the nail in the coffin  
j_rud : 12/3/2021 12:03 pm : link
It would be very difficult for even the most ardent supporter to support a second contract.
RE: I agree with JapanH  
Essex : 12/3/2021 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15478018 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Some of his injuries have been being reckless. This one, if it is the play I am thinking of was on the coaches.

What is a trend is when he runs and you have contact it is iffy if he will get hurt or not. He is too big a target and he does not have a natural ability of protecting himself imo.

When he slides, it appears he kind of hunches over leaving his neck vulnerable. That is always what I wince at when I watch him.
...  
broadbandz : 12/3/2021 12:03 pm : link
So that random guy was right, the giants would say he's not playing this week but really his is out for the yr. Never doubt the carpenter.
I certainly don’t want to lose Jones for the season  
cosmicj : 12/3/2021 12:03 pm : link
But Glennon starting will help us all better understand the Giants personnel status. A/B testing.
Get well DJ  
CV36 : 12/3/2021 12:04 pm : link
If he is out the remainder of this year it would be interesting to see Fromm play. Maybe he can be a decent backup for us going in to next year.
The Carpenter  
NoPeanutz : 12/3/2021 12:04 pm : link
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Looking forward  
Sammo85 : 12/3/2021 12:05 pm : link
to a significant/real QB competition next year. Giants have to investigate more options this offseason to compete/push Jones. If they don't, it's malpractice.
RE: ...  
Essex : 12/3/2021 12:05 pm : link
In comment 15478024 broadbandz said:
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So that random guy was right, the giants would say he's not playing this week but really his is out for the yr. Never doubt the carpenter.

I am curious, I never saw the original tweet, does anyone have a link or screenshot of it.
What the heck is so hard about sliding??  
Dave : 12/3/2021 12:05 pm : link
hasn't every kid learned that in little league?

I understand the game is fast but so are the players, Eli never could and now Jones too, if jones had slid properly he wouldn't have gotten hurt imo. aggravating
What a bust  
MtDizzle : 12/3/2021 12:07 pm : link
And some of you fools still wanna hitch our wagon to this guy.
If the team knew for fact he was out for the year  
UberAlias : 12/3/2021 12:07 pm : link
There is zero reason he would be practicing and taking reps from someone else. It's clear the extent of injury is not fully known at this point and could be back as early as next week or could be out for the year. But because some people think every detail of injuries have to be known right away, we prefer crazy conspiracy theories instead of accepting the obvious.
Dumb coach doing dumb things  
ghost718 : 12/3/2021 12:14 pm : link
When he comes back,let's line him up at receiver again,and the opposing team can bring Ronnie Lott out of retirement.
No big deal  
Route 9 : 12/3/2021 12:17 pm : link
Just shut him down for the year ...
Glennon  
jeff57 : 12/3/2021 12:17 pm : link
Mike Glennon is 2-15 in his last 17 starts, dating back to 2013.

His last win was with the Bears, on Sept. 24, 2017.
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GiantsRage2007 : 12/3/2021 12:17 pm : link
In comment 15478029 Essex said:
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So that random guy was right, the giants would say he's not playing this week but really his is out for the yr. Never doubt the carpenter.




I am curious, I never saw the original tweet, does anyone have a link or screenshot of it.


From Twitter “D0uble J0e Se7en” that has been deleted:

“Bookmark this. I am not a source. But my carpenter is apparently friends w one of the Mara sons. Daniel Jones is done for the season but they aren't saying anything. He will be "out" for Sunday. But he's actually done for season. I dunno if I believe it. But let's see.“
What  
AcidTest : 12/3/2021 12:19 pm : link
is this sudden interest in Fromm? He was a fifth round pick and couldn't even beat out Davis Webb or Mitch Trubisky. Of course some people here were saying just a few days ago that we should replace Jones with Trubisky.
Kadarius Toney can't be worse at QB than Taysom Hill  
90.Cal : 12/3/2021 12:20 pm : link
I know he's not healthy rn so it's kind of pointless at the moment but I'm going to keep beating this drum... I'd rather see Toney playing QB than Glennon. True 11 v 11 football. RPO/Wildcat/Read option/QB Power football. Let him get 20 passing attempts and 20 carries. Lamar Jackson/Taysom Hill style of play.
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