You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
If gettleman stays in the building, I could see it. Important to remember what big fans Mara and others are of Jones as well. They like him as a person and want to believe in him.
How can DG stay in the building? I could see it if they had to fire him, but they don't --his contract is over. No way DG gets EXTENDED, and if there was any glimmer of chance at that, DJ being hurt only increases odds that DG is gone. The only chance DG had was for NYG to make some kind of run and DJ being big reason for it.
has not made a determination on Jones. The question is what type of team needs to be built to win with him if that is what the option is.
If it is clear he does not have enough of a baseline talent then you have to seek other options and hope you choose better next time. Reality is that it is exceptionally difficult finding this "franchise" QB everyone seeks. You still have to find a way to win. This is just the way of the NFL.
Teams that consistently put it all on the QB usually stay in the dumpster a very long time with multiple round 1 QB's selected ignoring the bigger issues.
is this sudden interest in Fromm? He was a fifth round pick and couldn't even beat out Davis Webb or Mitch Trubisky. Of course some people here were saying just a few days ago that we should replace Jones with Trubisky.
Fromm is going to be starting for us soon.
They need to get him up to speed…
Are Glennon and Lewerke going to get hurt? That's the only pathway for Fromm to start. A QB picked up midseason isn't starting over the backups.
You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
If gettleman stays in the building, I could see it. Important to remember what big fans Mara and others are of Jones as well. They like him as a person and want to believe in him.
How can DG stay in the building? I could see it if they had to fire him, but they don't --his contract is over. No way DG gets EXTENDED, and if there was any glimmer of chance at that, DJ being hurt only increases odds that DG is gone. The only chance DG had was for NYG to make some kind of run and DJ being big reason for it.
It's the Giants. I am simply not staking my mortgage that Mara would never shuffle DG into a different role. He's been Giants family for decades.
Glennon is a career below average journeyman backup. But Mara is delusional and Gettleman is desperately trying to save his ass so I’m sure the team is still “all in” on snagging that last playoff spot
Someone who is also close to Mara and did so mid season. DG has been here for twice of long and at this point bleeding out on the Jones and Barkley picks. Even Mara's blind loyalty can't hold up against this and he has the easy out --have the man retire with his dignity.
I really want to see someone else....anyone else.... run this offense. I think it will be very revealing to a lot of Giants fans. I actually think a career backup like Glennon may show he runs the offense better than Jones. It would be a total home run if Jones AND Barkley were out but beggers can't be choosers.
I really want to see someone else....anyone else.... run this offense. I think it will be very revealing to a lot of Giants fans. I actually think a career backup like Glennon may show he runs the offense better than Jones. It would be a total home run if Jones AND Barkley were out but beggers can't be choosers.
If Glennon has a very good game there will be a Three-Mile-Island level meltdown here.
RE: RE: Kadarius Toney can't be worse at QB than Taysom Hill
I know he's not healthy rn so it's kind of pointless at the moment but I'm going to keep beating this drum... I'd rather see Toney playing QB than Glennon. True 11 v 11 football. RPO/Wildcat/Read option/QB Power football. Let him get 20 passing attempts and 20 carries. Lamar Jackson/Taysom Hill style of play.
He hasn't played QB since high school
PLUS- look at Hill and look at Toney.. Toney would get KILLED at QB, especially with our line. Hill could be a RB or TE with his build.
Glennon is a career below average journeyman backup. But Mara is delusional and Gettleman is desperately trying to save his ass so I’m sure the team is still “all in” on snagging that last playoff spot
Likely hood of playoffs is slim. But I hope the team is all in on snagging that last play off spot. Glennon gives them better chance I would think.
You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Matt, maybe BUT, I would include Barkley in trade offers, just to see if they take it. Might me less draft capital.
On a not exactly related topic, if Rodgers gets traded and Adams becomes a FA, do you see the team trading for Rodgers also signing Adams? if I had the cap space I sure would.
You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
Should the NYG be eliminated from playoff contention before week 17...
How sweet would it be if the NYG are playing the WFT in the last game of the season and they are game behind PHL for the last wildcard, but hold the tiebreaker.
We go up 7 at halftime w/ DJ or Glennon, but then "want to see what we have with Fromm" in the second half...
You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
Patricia Traina's recent article on SI.com
"Don't do it. Don't give that money. Let him play next year. Let's prove it. You're going to know then, for sure, do you want to sign him to a long-term deal? Or you can franchise him. So again, why do we have to go out there and give the option with all that money and commit ourselves to it? Go ahead and get one more year--what do we want to know? And then make your decision from there. I think it's okay. That's fair to him. I don't think he's going to sit there and go, 'Oh my gosh, the pressure.' No, he's just going to play."
You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
It's a good listen. not sure if this is the interveiw referenced. I haven't listened this week. His general opinion on the QB does not align with yours so you might want to skip it.
He shouldn't be "given" 2022 to prove anything. Shit, we just "gave" him 2021 after a miserable 2020.
Trade Jones. Draft a quarterback (doesn't have to be a first rounder though Corral would be a good pick), enter 2022 with Fromm, a rookie, and Lewerke.
Reboot this damn position already. It's been a disaster for years.
You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
It's a good listen. not sure if this is the interveiw referenced. I haven't listened this week. His general opinion on the QB does not align with yours so you might want to skip it.
He shouldn't be "given" 2022 to prove anything. Shit, we just "gave" him 2021 after a miserable 2020.
Trade Jones. Draft a quarterback (doesn't have to be a first rounder though Corral would be a good pick), enter 2022 with Fromm, a rookie, and Lewerke.
Reboot this damn position already. It's been a disaster for years.
We made the kid a multi-millionaire. The team comes first, not the player. We owe him nothing.
I think you bring legit (draft and FA) guys in to compete with him and make it an open competition - end the scholarship.
I don't think this team is a complete and total lost cause from a roster talent POV.
The defense has some legit pieces and will keep them in games.
I don't know what the going rate for a backup QB is, but that's probably what we can get. The jets hosed Carolina in the Darnold deal. I don't think we'll be so lucky.
He shouldn't be "given" 2022 to prove anything. Shit, we just "gave" him 2021 after a miserable 2020.
Trade Jones. Draft a quarterback (doesn't have to be a first rounder though Corral would be a good pick), enter 2022 with Fromm, a rookie, and Lewerke.
Reboot this damn position already. It's been a disaster for years.
Who would want to give up anything for Daniel Jones? I've said this before. He'd be a good back up for KC, GB or the two LA teams. I don't think the Rams have anything to give up.
But if I'm any of those teams I'm not giving up anything for Jones. He'd be good to fill in for 1 or 2 games when my QB is hurt but eh other than that, pass.
Don’t replace him and start this all over again with the next QB until you have an above average top 10 OL. Once we do replace fine, but I don’t care if it’s Aaron Rodgers don’t make him play behind this pile of dog shit and blame the QB. There are higher drafted players (like SB who all of a sudden can’t run behind them). DJ or not I don’t care. Giant fan first (like we all should be). The game is won at the line of scrimmage. Fix the fucking problem. Don’t say we invested picks, free agents etc. FIND THE RIGHT GUYS AND PROBLEM SOLVED.
Exactly. The Cardinals are learning their offense is more a product of Kingsbury than Murray.
It’s up to them if they have the guts to use those learnings when extending Murray.
Don’t be ridiculous, of course they will pick up Murray’s option and negotiate an extension. McCoy played well, but there was a definite lack of the explosiveness Murray provides.
The demand for QBs around the league is enormous. Look at what Darnold (who isn't appreciably better than Jones) got the Jets in trade.
I'm sure there's a team that would part with at least a third round pick based on their college scouting of Jones and a belief that Jones was a victim of shitty surroundings on a dysfunctional team.
Don’t replace him and start this all over again with the next QB until you have an above average top 10 OL. Once we do replace fine, but I don’t care if it’s Aaron Rodgers don’t make him play behind this pile of dog shit and blame the QB. There are higher drafted players (like SB who all of a sudden can’t run behind them). DJ or not I don’t care. Giant fan first (like we all should be). The game is won at the line of scrimmage. Fix the fucking problem. Don’t say we invested picks, free agents etc. FIND THE RIGHT GUYS AND PROBLEM SOLVED.
You don’t not improve the QB position until everything is perfect. If we can’t get a new QB until we have a top 10 line we’ll be waiting awhile.
A good QB can make your offensive look better or at the worst cover up for its faults.
The demand for QBs around the league is enormous. Look at what Darnold (who isn't appreciably better than Jones) got the Jets in trade.
I'm sure there's a team that would part with at least a third round pick based on their college scouting of Jones and a belief that Jones was a victim of shitty surroundings on a dysfunctional team.
I could see Detroit if they’d rather have Kayvon or an OL.
If Jones is done for the season, there is no way the Giants go into 2022 feeling good about their QB situation. Not just from an injury-prone player perspective, but because Jones simply didn't play all that well (regardless of the reasons).
They shouldn't be feeling good about it regardless if he plays or not.
The demand for QBs around the league is enormous. Look at what Darnold (who isn't appreciably better than Jones) got the Jets in trade.
I'm sure there's a team that would part with at least a third round pick based on their college scouting of Jones and a belief that Jones was a victim of shitty surroundings on a dysfunctional team.
Not even a question. I would bet we could get at least a 2nd.
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You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
If gettleman stays in the building, I could see it. Important to remember what big fans Mara and others are of Jones as well. They like him as a person and want to believe in him.
How can DG stay in the building? I could see it if they had to fire him, but they don't --his contract is over. No way DG gets EXTENDED, and if there was any glimmer of chance at that, DJ being hurt only increases odds that DG is gone. The only chance DG had was for NYG to make some kind of run and DJ being big reason for it.
If it is clear he does not have enough of a baseline talent then you have to seek other options and hope you choose better next time. Reality is that it is exceptionally difficult finding this "franchise" QB everyone seeks. You still have to find a way to win. This is just the way of the NFL.
Teams that consistently put it all on the QB usually stay in the dumpster a very long time with multiple round 1 QB's selected ignoring the bigger issues.
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is this sudden interest in Fromm? He was a fifth round pick and couldn't even beat out Davis Webb or Mitch Trubisky. Of course some people here were saying just a few days ago that we should replace Jones with Trubisky.
Fromm is going to be starting for us soon.
They need to get him up to speed…
Are Glennon and Lewerke going to get hurt? That's the only pathway for Fromm to start. A QB picked up midseason isn't starting over the backups.
I can't imagine Judge wanting to hitch his fate to Jones as his quarterback. Jones has thrown 21 TDs in 25 starts under Judge.
That is pathetic.
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You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
If gettleman stays in the building, I could see it. Important to remember what big fans Mara and others are of Jones as well. They like him as a person and want to believe in him.
How can DG stay in the building? I could see it if they had to fire him, but they don't --his contract is over. No way DG gets EXTENDED, and if there was any glimmer of chance at that, DJ being hurt only increases odds that DG is gone. The only chance DG had was for NYG to make some kind of run and DJ being big reason for it.
It's the Giants. I am simply not staking my mortgage that Mara would never shuffle DG into a different role. He's been Giants family for decades.
If I repeat these things over and over again they become true, right? That's how it works?
If Glennon has a very good game there will be a Three-Mile-Island level meltdown here.
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I know he's not healthy rn so it's kind of pointless at the moment but I'm going to keep beating this drum... I'd rather see Toney playing QB than Glennon. True 11 v 11 football. RPO/Wildcat/Read option/QB Power football. Let him get 20 passing attempts and 20 carries. Lamar Jackson/Taysom Hill style of play.
He hasn't played QB since high school
PLUS- look at Hill and look at Toney.. Toney would get KILLED at QB, especially with our line. Hill could be a RB or TE with his build.
Likely hood of playoffs is slim. But I hope the team is all in on snagging that last play off spot. Glennon gives them better chance I would think.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
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You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
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You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Matt, maybe BUT, I would include Barkley in trade offers, just to see if they take it. Might me less draft capital.
On a not exactly related topic, if Rodgers gets traded and Adams becomes a FA, do you see the team trading for Rodgers also signing Adams? if I had the cap space I sure would.
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You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
How sweet would it be if the NYG are playing the WFT in the last game of the season and they are game behind PHL for the last wildcard, but hold the tiebreaker.
We go up 7 at halftime w/ DJ or Glennon, but then "want to see what we have with Fromm" in the second half...
Which brings me to my last point - F the Eagles.
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You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
Patricia Traina's recent article on SI.com
"Don't do it. Don't give that money. Let him play next year. Let's prove it. You're going to know then, for sure, do you want to sign him to a long-term deal? Or you can franchise him. So again, why do we have to go out there and give the option with all that money and commit ourselves to it? Go ahead and get one more year--what do we want to know? And then make your decision from there. I think it's okay. That's fair to him. I don't think he's going to sit there and go, 'Oh my gosh, the pressure.' No, he's just going to play."
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You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
Here is the link to the tweet with the audio
https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1466114335286124555 - ( New Window )
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You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
It's a good listen. not sure if this is the interveiw referenced. I haven't listened this week. His general opinion on the QB does not align with yours so you might want to skip it.
Trade Jones. Draft a quarterback (doesn't have to be a first rounder though Corral would be a good pick), enter 2022 with Fromm, a rookie, and Lewerke.
Reboot this damn position already. It's been a disaster for years.
I just read that Daniel Jones is "as tough as a $2 steak."
Daniel Jones doesn't know the meaning of tough.
I suspect that Daniel Jones doesn't know the meaning of the word, "Hamantaschen" either.
Or Vulva.
Jones, tough? Don't make me laugh.
You want tough?
How about the time that the Steeler's "Peevish Joe Greenberg" pulverized Eli.
Remember? Eli's flat on his back, trying to catch his breath.
Meanwhile, the play's not dead - there appears to be some sort of scrum.
Did Eli fumble the - oh no, Steeler's ball - Steeler's ball.
Eli must have fum---- wait a minute.. Hold the phone..
The refs are holding a conference.
Look at that angle on the replay.. The Steelers didn't recover a football.
Holy Shit, it's ELI'S SPLEEN.
The Steelers recovered Eli's spleen.
That season, the Giants lead the league in "vital organs fumbled for a loss."
But this time fortune smiled for the Giants.
Giants ball, 3rd and 3.
Eli points to the Mike, barks out a series of gibberish, "Omaha," snap and... and I don't remember anything after that.
But I am quite certain that Eli didn't miss a snap.
Not one snap.
That's tough, my friend.
Like I said, Eli spoiled us.
Spoiled us rotten
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You and I wouldn't pick up his option, but would it shock you if NYG did it? Not me.
Probably not shocked, but surprised, yes.
Phil Simms was interviewed the other day and he said he wouldn't pick up Jones' option after this year if he was the Giants. Let him play next season and if he doesn't have it, you move on. This neck injury might be the tipping point to force the Giants hands not to pick it up. What sucks is that there are no really strong QB prospects in this draft & I hope the Giants don't force one. And as much as Wilson here would be exciting, he's 33 years old and would cost both first rounders, who are needed to improve the talent on this roster.
Did Phil Simms really say this? Is there audio?
When you lose Phil Simms, that's really the end of the party.
It's a good listen. not sure if this is the interveiw referenced. I haven't listened this week. His general opinion on the QB does not align with yours so you might want to skip it.
I'll check it out a little later.
How many years do I have to keep waiting for a winning Giants team again where accountability and development matters?
What is this scholarship Jones is on and where I can get one in my life?
Trade Jones. Draft a quarterback (doesn't have to be a first rounder though Corral would be a good pick), enter 2022 with Fromm, a rookie, and Lewerke.
Reboot this damn position already. It's been a disaster for years.
We made the kid a multi-millionaire. The team comes first, not the player. We owe him nothing.
I just read that Daniel Jones is "as tough as a $2 steak."
Daniel Jones doesn't know the meaning of tough.
I suspect that Daniel Jones doesn't know the meaning of the word, "Hamantaschen" either.
Or Vulva.
Jones, tough? Don't make me laugh.
You want tough?
How about the time that the Steeler's "Peevish Joe Greenberg" pulverized Eli.
Remember? Eli's flat on his back, trying to catch his breath.
Meanwhile, the play's not dead - there appears to be some sort of scrum.
Did Eli fumble the - oh no, Steeler's ball - Steeler's ball.
Eli must have fum---- wait a minute.. Hold the phone..
The refs are holding a conference.
Look at that angle on the replay.. The Steelers didn't recover a football.
Holy Shit, it's ELI'S SPLEEN.
The Steelers recovered Eli's spleen.
That season, the Giants lead the league in "vital organs fumbled for a loss."
But this time fortune smiled for the Giants.
Giants ball, 3rd and 3.
Eli points to the Mike, barks out a series of gibberish, "Omaha," snap and... and I don't remember anything after that.
But I am quite certain that Eli didn't miss a snap.
Not one snap.
That's tough, my friend.
Like I said, Eli spoiled us.
Spoiled us rotten
Eli was a giant among Giant legends.
And he's not toxic.
I think you bring legit (draft and FA) guys in to compete with him and make it an open competition - end the scholarship.
I don't think this team is a complete and total lost cause from a roster talent POV.
The defense has some legit pieces and will keep them in games.
He’s a placeholder in 22 and that’s it.
Is that a satisfactory disruption of "scholarship"
And he's not toxic.
I think you bring legit (draft and FA) guys in to compete with him and make it an open competition - end the scholarship.
I don't think this team is a complete and total lost cause from a roster talent POV.
The defense has some legit pieces and will keep them in games.
I don't know what the going rate for a backup QB is, but that's probably what we can get. The jets hosed Carolina in the Darnold deal. I don't think we'll be so lucky.
He’s a placeholder in 22 and that’s it.
Kylar Murray has not played in a month. Same standard?
I can't imagine Judge wanting to hitch his fate to Jones as his quarterback. Jones has thrown 21 TDs in 25 starts under Judge.
That is pathetic.
What leads you to believe Judge has any clue what he is doing? I wouldn’t hold any hope up to him ever making a correct decision.
Trade Jones. Draft a quarterback (doesn't have to be a first rounder though Corral would be a good pick), enter 2022 with Fromm, a rookie, and Lewerke.
Reboot this damn position already. It's been a disaster for years.
Who would want to give up anything for Daniel Jones? I've said this before. He'd be a good back up for KC, GB or the two LA teams. I don't think the Rams have anything to give up.
But if I'm any of those teams I'm not giving up anything for Jones. He'd be good to fill in for 1 or 2 games when my QB is hurt but eh other than that, pass.
Maybe New England in some wacky world package?
How many years do I have to keep waiting for a winning Giants team again where accountability and development matters?
What is this scholarship Jones is on and where I can get one in my life?
Trying to justify the #6 overall pick.
Oh, and see the Barkley situation also...
Nice mess we're in
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Colt McCoy played like crap.
Plays in Arizona, looks like Dan Fouts.
Exactly. The Cardinals are learning their offense is more a product of Kingsbury than Murray.
It’s up to them if they have the guts to use those learnings when extending Murray.
Don’t be ridiculous, of course they will pick up Murray’s option and negotiate an extension. McCoy played well, but there was a definite lack of the explosiveness Murray provides.
I'm sure there's a team that would part with at least a third round pick based on their college scouting of Jones and a belief that Jones was a victim of shitty surroundings on a dysfunctional team.
You don’t not improve the QB position until everything is perfect. If we can’t get a new QB until we have a top 10 line we’ll be waiting awhile.
A good QB can make your offensive look better or at the worst cover up for its faults.
I'm sure there's a team that would part with at least a third round pick based on their college scouting of Jones and a belief that Jones was a victim of shitty surroundings on a dysfunctional team.
I could see Detroit if they’d rather have Kayvon or an OL.
If Jones is done for the season, there is no way the Giants go into 2022 feeling good about their QB situation. Not just from an injury-prone player perspective, but because Jones simply didn't play all that well (regardless of the reasons).
that's a depressing notion.
I'm sure there's a team that would part with at least a third round pick based on their college scouting of Jones and a belief that Jones was a victim of shitty surroundings on a dysfunctional team.
Not even a question. I would bet we could get at least a 2nd.