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21 Giants have been placed on IR this year

Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/3/2021 4:13 pm
17 remain on IR.

4 have been activated off of IR.

We still have six games to play.

Granted, the liberalized IR rules inflate IR numbers, but this is getting ridiculous.

(And Giants front office, this should not be used as an excuse because you started the season 1-5).
BTW  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/3/2021 4:18 pm : link
IR players count against the cap.
....  
BleedBlue : 12/3/2021 4:19 pm : link
we have been hurt more than most teams. IDC who you are...its not easy to compete when you are consistently missing your starters
RE: ....  
Angel Eyes : 12/3/2021 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15478335 BleedBlue said:
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we have been hurt more than most teams. IDC who you are...its not easy to compete when you are consistently missing your starters

And nobody knows why we're so freaking snakebit.
how do these numbers  
Enzo : 12/3/2021 4:23 pm : link
compare to other teams?
The,Ravens have nearly as many injuries  
islander1 : 12/3/2021 4:23 pm : link
and they are still winning.
Additionally ...  
dancing blue bear : 12/3/2021 4:29 pm : link
guys like barkley, shep, toney, rudolph, golloday, thomas etc have spent signifigant time not realistically available but not on IR

It's been brutal all around.
Following this team,much like life, has become a matter of perspective  
j_rud : 12/3/2021 4:31 pm : link
For instance if you're hoping for the playoffs that's a bummer of a headline. However if your goal is to draft Hutchenson/Green/Neal/Cross well shit, we're making a push!
Stats for IR across the league  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2021 4:34 pm : link
at spotrac.

Giants are not the most injured team, though they are tied with TEN for most current on IR.

When you look at it in terms of cap hit for currently injured players the Giants are not in the top third of the league (they are 11th).

link - ( New Window )
A lot of the kids nowadays  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/3/2021 4:36 pm : link
are shredded like body builders. I think their workout is partially due to vanity and to achieve this look for their instatok and tikgram videos, could be a more supple doughy build is less injury prone.
RE: ....  
Sammo85 : 12/3/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15478335 BleedBlue said:
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we have been hurt more than most teams. IDC who you are...its not easy to compete when you are consistently missing your starters


Yet other teams seem to be able to do it.
RE: Following this team,much like life, has become a matter of perspective  
FStubbs : 12/3/2021 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15478348 j_rud said:
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For instance if you're hoping for the playoffs that's a bummer of a headline. However if your goal is to draft Hutchenson/Green/Neal/Cross well shit, we're making a push!


Hutchinson may as well start looking for real estate in Michigan.
RE: RE: Following this team,much like life, has become a matter of perspective  
FStubbs : 12/3/2021 4:44 pm : link
In comment 15478360 FStubbs said:
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In comment 15478348 j_rud said:


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For instance if you're hoping for the playoffs that's a bummer of a headline. However if your goal is to draft Hutchenson/Green/Neal/Cross well shit, we're making a push!



Hutchinson may as well start looking for real estate in Michigan.


Eh, brain fart.

He may as well get ready to stay in Michigan.
People of Michigan  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/3/2021 4:47 pm : link
will torch the stadium if they don't take Hutch.
Ravens and Titans  
Sammo85 : 12/3/2021 4:47 pm : link
are two of the best teams record wise in AFC.

Cowboys and Packers have had nonstop injury and Covid related issues including to top players, yet are among top teams in NFC.

Making excuses is what losers do.
giants went into the offseason with a bunch of injury prone players  
japanhead : 12/3/2021 4:49 pm : link
in shepard, engram, barkley, jones, slayton, etc., then signed more injury-prone players in free agency in golladay, rudolph, ross, jackson, and then drafted injury-prone college WR toney in the first round.

it really should not be surprising they have a lot of injuries this year.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2021 4:50 pm : link
Don't let John Mara see this thread.
I am less focused on the total number of players injured...  
EricJ : 12/3/2021 4:53 pm : link
and more focused on how many soft tissue injuries we have had. Like a broken record... we have a serious issue with our strength and conditioning program. I have never seen this many hamstring injuries happening to trained athletes.
RE: RE: RE: Following this team,much like life, has become a matter of perspective  
Dinger : 12/3/2021 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15478362 FStubbs said:
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In comment 15478360 FStubbs said:


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In comment 15478348 j_rud said:


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For instance if you're hoping for the playoffs that's a bummer of a headline. However if your goal is to draft Hutchenson/Green/Neal/Cross well shit, we're making a push!



Hutchinson may as well start looking for real estate in Michigan.



Eh, brain fart.

He may as well get ready to stay in Michigan.


Eh we knew what you meant ;)

Plus as a college player they can't own real-estat.....oh wait they changed that didn't they?
Titans lost their best player  
shadow_spinner0 : 12/3/2021 4:55 pm : link
Look at the Ravens, tons of injuries. It's easy to look at the Giants in a vacuum but looking around the league, it seems we get news of a season ending injury every day. Every team has had soul crushing injuries, not just the Giants. Other teams continue to win despite them. Packers played all year without the best LT in football and lost there other good OL last game I believe.
Titans are in the dumpster  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/3/2021 4:57 pm : link
without King Henry.
RE: I am less focused on the total number of players injured...  
japanhead : 12/3/2021 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15478376 EricJ said:
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and more focused on how many soft tissue injuries we have had. Like a broken record... we have a serious issue with our strength and conditioning program. I have never seen this many hamstring injuries happening to trained athletes.


idk what the actual evidence of this serious issue with the strength and conditioning program is other than having a lot of injuries this year. yet they didn't have a lot of injuries last year and in fact were one of the least injured teams iirc.

im betting signing injury-prone guys and sticking with the previous injury-prone guys is more of a factor here.
Some other teams have an identity  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/3/2021 5:02 pm : link
and know what to look for in their players, including their backup. Giants don't have any idea and just pick up random players in a haphazard manner, including their backups. We really should have had a poor man's Blake Martinez to replace him, not Tae Chowder which makes no sense and completely discombulates the defense.
Shep, Toney and Saquon  
Vanzetti : 12/3/2021 5:03 pm : link
have been injured throughout their careers, either in college or NFL.

So, you can't act as if its bad luck when they once again miss time.

Outside of Rodney Hampton and Simms  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/3/2021 5:06 pm : link
can't name a significant injury at the end of the year in any of our super bowl runs off the top of my head.
RE: BTW  
Des51 : 12/3/2021 5:07 pm : link
In comment 15478334 Eric from BBI said:
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IR players count against the cap.
What about Jonotthan Harrison injured/practice squad does he count toward the IR list.
RE: Outside of Rodney Hampton and Simms  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2021 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15478393 Spiciest Memelord said:
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can't name a significant injury at the end of the year in any of our super bowl runs off the top of my head.

Shockey and Kiwi in 2007

RE: Stats for IR across the league  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/3/2021 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15478350 pjcas18 said:
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at spotrac.

Giants are not the most injured team, though they are tied with TEN for most current on IR.

When you look at it in terms of cap hit for currently injured players the Giants are not in the top third of the league (they are 11th). link - ( New Window )


Nice chart, but it doesn't quite capture the injuries to star or highly paid players who aren't put on the IR because of less serious, but nagging injuries, which seems to a big problem for the Giants all year.
RE: RE: Stats for IR across the league  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2021 5:11 pm : link
In comment 15478398 Spiciest Memelord said:
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In comment 15478350 pjcas18 said:


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at spotrac.

Giants are not the most injured team, though they are tied with TEN for most current on IR.

When you look at it in terms of cap hit for currently injured players the Giants are not in the top third of the league (they are 11th). link - ( New Window )



Nice chart, but it doesn't quite capture the injuries to star or highly paid players who aren't put on the IR because of less serious, but nagging injuries, which seems to a big problem for the Giants all year.


Which players for example? Toney? I guess Jones. Are there others? And pretty sure every team has those players - not sure the injury is enough for IR for them to miss 3+ games, but too injured to play short-term.

RE: RE: RE: Stats for IR across the league  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/3/2021 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15478399 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15478398 Spiciest Memelord said:


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In comment 15478350 pjcas18 said:


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at spotrac.

Giants are not the most injured team, though they are tied with TEN for most current on IR.

When you look at it in terms of cap hit for currently injured players the Giants are not in the top third of the league (they are 11th). link - ( New Window )



Nice chart, but it doesn't quite capture the injuries to star or highly paid players who aren't put on the IR because of less serious, but nagging injuries, which seems to a big problem for the Giants all year.



Which players for example? Toney? I guess Jones. Are there others? And pretty sure every team has those players - not sure the injury is enough for IR for them to miss 3+ games, but too injured to play short-term.


Barkley, Golladay, Sheperd have all ridden the bicycle on the sidelines.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Stats for IR across the league  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2021 5:20 pm : link
In comment 15478400 Spiciest Memelord said:
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In comment 15478399 pjcas18 said:


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In comment 15478398 Spiciest Memelord said:


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In comment 15478350 pjcas18 said:


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at spotrac.

Giants are not the most injured team, though they are tied with TEN for most current on IR.

When you look at it in terms of cap hit for currently injured players the Giants are not in the top third of the league (they are 11th). link - ( New Window )



Nice chart, but it doesn't quite capture the injuries to star or highly paid players who aren't put on the IR because of less serious, but nagging injuries, which seems to a big problem for the Giants all year.



Which players for example? Toney? I guess Jones. Are there others? And pretty sure every team has those players - not sure the injury is enough for IR for them to miss 3+ games, but too injured to play short-term.




Barkley, Golladay, Sheperd have all ridden the bicycle on the sidelines.


They didn't know for sure those injuries would definitely last 3 weeks when they happened. That's what I mean about all teams dealing with those types of injuries.

Shepard has had 3 separate injuries.
With the 17 game schedule  
jeff57 : 12/3/2021 5:53 pm : link
You’re going to have semipro guys playing in January.
Keep our guys out of those preseason games  
Jimmy Googs : 12/3/2021 6:29 pm : link
they could get injured...
Injury issues under Coughlin  
Biteymax22 : 12/3/2021 6:58 pm : link
Arron Wellman comes in, injuries start to subside

Arron Wellman leaves, injuries come back

I guess the S&C program is a little more important than we think….


BTW, we’ve all said Sy’ should be GM, he could take over S&C too
RE: A lot of the kids nowadays  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 12/3/2021 8:18 pm : link
In comment 15478352 Spiciest Memelord said:
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are shredded like body builders. I think their workout is partially due to vanity and to achieve this look for their instatok and tikgram videos, could be a more supple doughy build is less injury prone.


The Juan Gonzalez v. Cecil Fielder Conundrum.
RE: With the 17 game schedule  
islander1 : 12/3/2021 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15478416 jeff57 said:
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You’re going to have semipro guys playing in January.


I mean, we already have them now, so.
Easy Solution  
WillVAB : 12/3/2021 11:37 pm : link
Stop drafting and signing injury prone players.
RE: Shep, Toney and Saquon  
Giants73 : 12/4/2021 8:14 am : link
In comment 15478390 Vanzetti said:
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have been injured throughout their careers, either in college or NFL.

So, you can't act as if its bad luck when they once again miss time.


Toney had a shoulder injury in college and missed 6 games, but that was the extent of his HS and college injuries. Barkley rolled his ankle twice in college and missed a total of 1 game. Wouldn’t exactly say they were injury prone.
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