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Feels Like Forever Since the Giants Were Good

christian : 12/3/2021 6:36 pm
I remember the pre-game thread before the 2016 playoff game. That’s the last moment I felt like the Giants were any good.

How about you guys?
2012 season to me.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2021 6:40 pm : link
2016 seemed, to me, a fluky team even as the season was even going on.
I thought that 2016 Defense  
dancing blue bear : 12/3/2021 6:56 pm : link
was gonna be good for a while. The offense was so bad that year, my only hope in that game was playoff Eli would show up. He did, but the yachtsmen were not up to the challenge.

As for now, I am enjoying watching the defense this year. There are a bunch of good young players I hope will lead the next good period of giants football. I think a stud edge and the continued development of aziz and X man will put these guys to the next level
2016 defense carried them and it was a mirage  
mattlawson : 12/3/2021 6:56 pm : link
2011-12 that was the last really good team and they played down most of the time.

2008-10 missing rings. Boy what a great nucleus they had.

The best team in my adult years was 2008. No question about it. Plax shooting himself and the ensuing tailspin was a brutal collapse
It’s been  
Sammo85 : 12/3/2021 7:00 pm : link
literally almost a decade. Even in few years where offense was good, the defense was terrible. That 2016 season was a fluky year. They were mostly a mediocre team. Division was mostly bad which helped. Defense carried them. Offense and specials were pretty bad.
Too many of us  
Biteymax22 : 12/3/2021 7:01 pm : link
Made the “I don’t care if we suck for 10 years, just let us win this SuperBowl” prayer in 2011…
RE: Too many of us  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2021 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15478462 Biteymax22 said:
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Made the “I don’t care if we suck for 10 years, just let us win this SuperBowl” prayer in 2011…


Haha, I did.
Feels like forever since they were exciting..  
Sean : 12/3/2021 7:03 pm : link
It’s one thing to be bad, they aren’t even interesting. Remember when we all thought 2012-2015 was bad? This is so much worse.
RE: Too many of us  
Sean : 12/3/2021 7:04 pm : link
In comment 15478462 Biteymax22 said:
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Made the “I don’t care if we suck for 10 years, just let us win this SuperBowl” prayer in 2011…

Hey, it should be expiring soon!
RE: I thought that 2016 Defense  
Matt M. : 12/3/2021 7:10 pm : link
In comment 15478455 dancing blue bear said:
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was gonna be good for a while. The offense was so bad that year, my only hope in that game was playoff Eli would show up. He did, but the yachtsmen were not up to the challenge.

As for now, I am enjoying watching the defense this year. There are a bunch of good young players I hope will lead the next good period of giants football. I think a stud edge and the continued development of aziz and X man will put these guys to the next level
X man? Continued development? He's terrible.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2021 7:12 pm : link
To me, this organization has been in a complete rut since October 2012, right when Sandy whacked the Northeast. We were 6-2 when Sandy hit & finished 3-5. That Washington game on MNF-I believe we lost by 1-still pisses me off.
I miss it  
Breeze_94 : 12/3/2021 7:18 pm : link
In my childhood, there was nothing better than those late season games with major playoff implications.

The Giants would always be on the 4pm games with Buck/Aikman on the call, or even SNF games. And there would be that bottled up excitement while waiting all day for the Giants to play.

I don't get that anymore, even when the Giants did play on MNF a couple weeks ago. They aren't fun to watch and there isn't any potential for this current team to do anything special.

I'd say the last time I felt that was 2012. Maybe a bit in 2016, but deep down we all knew that team wasn't going anywhere because the only way they could score was Odell taking a slant to the house.
RE: ...  
Sean : 12/3/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15478473 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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To me, this organization has been in a complete rut since October 2012, right when Sandy whacked the Northeast. We were 6-2 when Sandy hit & finished 3-5. That Washington game on MNF-I believe we lost by 1-still pisses me off.

I vaguely recall a questionable holding call detailing a late drive.
Last time the Giants were special  
joeinpa : 12/3/2021 7:57 pm : link
During the regular season, 2007 and 2008. Actually think the 08 team was better than 07 until Plax shot himself.
RE: Last time the Giants were special  
Sean : 12/3/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15478498 joeinpa said:
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During the regular season, 2007 and 2008. Actually think the 08 team was better than 07 until Plax shot himself.

Those 2005-2012 teams were always relevant. Maximum SNF games each of those seasons. I miss it.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2021 8:02 pm : link
Agree with Sean. From '05-'12, the Giants were in contention throughout. '08...that season still pisses me off.
RE: RE: Too many of us  
Brown_Hornet : 12/3/2021 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15478466 Sean said:
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In comment 15478462 Biteymax22 said:


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Made the “I don’t care if we suck for 10 years, just let us win this SuperBowl” prayer in 2011…


Hey, it should be expiring soon!
Billiant!
RE: 2012 season to me.  
Route 9 : 12/3/2021 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15478449 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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2016 seemed, to me, a fluky team even as the season was even going on.


The saddest part at the end of 2012 was being completely puzzled by the no-shows against Atlanta and Baltimore. I thought they were way better than that.

I remember the Giants had a legit chance at finding their way to the playoffs that year and to ... defend their Super Bowl title?

I remember being stunned by the 34-0 embarrassment against the Falcons. Just could not believe that was the same team the Giants waxed at home 24-2.

Now? If I were to sleep in during a game or see 34-0 or 51-0 on my phone? I'd think nothing of it.
......  
Route 9 : 12/3/2021 8:18 pm : link
Also I think that their spot wound up dropping to some shitty Minnesota team who looked dead in the water by the end of the year. Nope. Easy clincher when the Giants shoot themselves in the foot.
Route 9.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2021 8:20 pm : link
I remember watching that 2012 Giants Falcons game @ a random bar in metro Nashville-had a wedding that weekend down there-& the Giants just no showing. Pathetic performance. That was a good ATL team, but the Giants didn't even put up a fight.
You could see the leaks in 2012..  
Sean : 12/3/2021 8:24 pm : link
They got smoked in Cincinnati 31-13, that’s when you could start to really see the cracks.
I found that 2016 tough to like  
Go Terps : 12/3/2021 8:35 pm : link
The last time I can remember really liking this team was the kids in Philly where Tynes came up short on the 51 yard game winner. I think that was 2012, but who knows. Can barely see in this wilderness of bad football.
*2016 team  
Go Terps : 12/3/2021 8:36 pm : link
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2008  
Les in TO : 12/3/2021 8:39 pm : link
Was the last ass-kicking dominant season. Every week we dominated the trenches on both sides of the ball and Eli had a superb year. 2011 was shaky until Cruz’s 99 yard TD flipped the script. 2016 was Beckham and a stout D.
 
christian : 12/3/2021 8:40 pm : link
Lowest moment for me was 2013 against the Panthers. That’s when I realized the Giants sucked. I’ve had that feeling at least 50 times since then. Thinking, yup this makes sense because the Giants suck.
The worst for me is I can't remember much  
Go Terps : 12/3/2021 8:43 pm : link
There is just no football worth remembering these last ten years since the Super Bowl. It's just a big void. No games or players with remembering.
*worth  
Go Terps : 12/3/2021 8:43 pm : link
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These games where they are just nowhere  
Jimmy Googs : 12/3/2021 8:57 pm : link
- Tampa this year
- Baltimore last year
- Patriots in 2019
- Titans in 2018
- Rams in 2017

They are just grating examples of how this franchise is lost in space. Cannot compete against the better teams in any of these years. Embarrassed by halftime in many. Posters living in denial. Sad.

Find a new GM that is good at player evaluation. Make smart decisions with available cap money and try to find value in every single draft pick. Every one. This will make the family crap irrelevant and the turn this thing around...
RE: RE: 2012 season to me.  
FStubbs : 12/3/2021 9:07 pm : link
In comment 15478512 Route 9 said:
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In comment 15478449 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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2016 seemed, to me, a fluky team even as the season was even going on.



The saddest part at the end of 2012 was being completely puzzled by the no-shows against Atlanta and Baltimore. I thought they were way better than that.

I remember the Giants had a legit chance at finding their way to the playoffs that year and to ... defend their Super Bowl title?

I remember being stunned by the 34-0 embarrassment against the Falcons. Just could not believe that was the same team the Giants waxed at home 24-2.

Now? If I were to sleep in during a game or see 34-0 or 51-0 on my phone? I'd think nothing of it.


I think literally Hurricane Sandy is when the team collapsed.
Matt M.: I think DBB meant X-avier (McKinney), not X-imines.  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/3/2021 9:09 pm : link
Different X-Man.

Anyway, The last time I thought the Giants were good was early in the fourth quarter of a game against Pittsburgh in 2012.
I liked the 2016 team  
Jerry in_DC : 12/3/2021 9:22 pm : link
They were good, not great, kind on the tier of the better Fassel teams. Odell was just awesome. The Giants never had anyone like him and maybe never will. Shame that his body and mind did not sustain. I liked Snacks, Collins, JPP.

They were not a great team, didn't really have playoff upside. I found the GB loss easy to take because we just weren't as good as them. But it was an enjoyable season.
I see  
darren in pdx : 12/3/2021 9:24 pm : link
people mention the offense being good some years recently..and I don't agree at all. The offense has been a complete shit-show since Hurricane Sandy. I still remember the first few weeks of 2013 and the o-line could not even execute a simple play. It was a shock to the system and now I'm numb to it. Feel like I've said for the past four seasons, "If they get it right this offseason they can be competitive in about two years." They haven't had that get it right offseason yet. If a good GM is hired, we may have competitive football in 2024, otherwise, maybe 2030 if we're lucky.
that's because it HAS been forever  
islander1 : 12/3/2021 10:50 pm : link
we're the new Browns of yesteryear.
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Route 9 : 12/4/2021 2:47 am : link
Sandy ... but didn't they beat the Saints and the Packers at home weeks after? They lost that Monday Night Football game against the Redskins around this time of year because Washington had a horseshoe up their asses on one of their touchdowns.

My point is after the 34-0 Falcons game, something just didn't add up. That one still had me puzzled the next day at work.

There were playoff implications on the line going into that one. They showed up and get shut out even though they just scored 50 something points the week before? I know New Orleans defense was terrible but at least back then it was surprising when they got blown out. You don't see shutouts too often in the NFL. Who would have thought that game would be one of SIX that the Giants would be on the wrong end of from 2012-2018? Fucking pathetic.
RE: Too many of us  
bradshaw44 : 12/4/2021 5:30 am : link
In comment 15478462 Biteymax22 said:
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Made the “I don’t care if we suck for 10 years, just let us win this SuperBowl” prayer in 2011…


This is true. And lucky for us, 10 years is just about up come February 5th!!
To anyone who thinks a future HoF QB in his prime can lift this team:  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/4/2021 7:22 am : link
32-year-old Eli Manning has entered the chat.

I realize Eli had his particular limitations, but the last eight years of his career suggest that a quarterback can only do so much. For all the deserved venom directed at Reese and Ross for the supporting cast they assembled in those years, I'm not sure the current depth chart is any better.
RE: To anyone who thinks a future HoF QB in his prime can lift this team:  
Jimmy Googs : 12/4/2021 7:59 am : link
In comment 15478741 Big Blue Blogger said:
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32-year-old Eli Manning has entered the chat.

I realize Eli had his particular limitations, but the last eight years of his career suggest that a quarterback can only do so much. For all the deserved venom directed at Reese and Ross for the supporting cast they assembled in those years, I'm not sure the current depth chart is any better.


Roster is better on the defensive side although it's not an impactful because of type of scheme and no pass rush.

The difference is these latest few Offensive teams just don't score touchdowns, it's beyond ridiculous. Even when they do it is painful to watch like taking 4 downs from the 1 yard line to do it, or a TE catching a ball that slips between his legs. At least Eli scored points for a number of years after those Super Bowls.

Now, if the Defense plays well, it's still a one score game down to the wire and we lose some of them. And if they face a good opposing Offense who can put up points then we get blown out since our guys can't possibly keep up.
I liked the 2016 team (not loved) because they really got  
Jimmy Googs : 12/4/2021 8:04 am : link
some good momentum playing shut down Defense, and they beat the Cowboys twice that year. But you could see the issues coming on Offense with Flowers being a joke, Eli declining and nobody other than OBJ stepping up to make plays.

They really haven't been good as an overall team since that stretch run in 2011/2012...
Hey Googs  
Debaser : 12/4/2021 9:01 am : link
Did you root against Eli because you wanted a QB change ?
I saw a fire in the D against the Eagles  
Batenhorst7 : 12/4/2021 11:36 am : link
I had not seen in quite some time

kind of came out of nowhere

If the Offense can do the same this Sunday we might be going somewhere
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