A strained neck . . . A STRAINED NECK??!!

...a VAG Man.

is a cracked vertebrae in the neck...

But if he cannot go, it’s because he cannot go...

for Most Poorly Thought-Out Handle goes to...

He has about 90 million reasons to tough it out. So whatever the reality is to the injury, I think it must be pretty severe.

I wish him well.

I can see this being a problem.

I had a strain which just needed muscle relaxers. Better in a few days.
I had a strain which needed 3 weeks of physical therapy.
I had a spine/shoulder issue which needed intense chiropractic work because relaxers and massage didn't work. This took about 6 months to recover. I'm lucky, I got all my strength/motion back.

So in summary, since we don't know what it is, we don't know what is needed.

but seriously-- you have no idea what the extent of the injury is or how painful it is. A strained neck is vague and it could be so bad that it makes it painful for a person to even get out of bed. Just like any injury-- the devil is in the details: not all broken legs and sprained ankles are are created equally either. All depends on the nature and severity of the injury.

And a neck injury in particular is one you DO NOT want to mess around with possibly exacerbating /injuring further. Could literally end a person's career.

I say this as someone who has had neck issues all of my adult life going back to slipping a disc in my neck about 8 years ago and even prior to that. I honestly would say I have a fairly high tolerance for pain in most locations of my body, but anything regarding neck and back can be particularly debilitating for anyone, even the toughest sonofabitches.

I agree with adam-- the guy came back from a bad concussion just a week later. That takes guts. And Jones may indeed be worth of the "injury-prone" moniker at this point but I sure as hell wouldn't question his toughness over this one.

In comment 15478580 TheEvilLurker said:

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I can see this being a problem. I had a strain which just needed muscle relaxers. Better in a few days. I had a strain which needed 3 weeks of physical therapy. I had a spine/shoulder issue which needed intense chiropractic work because relaxers and massage didn't work. This took about 6 months to recover. I'm lucky, I got all my strength/motion back. So in summary, since we don't know what it is, we don't know what is needed.

+1

for making me better understand the severity of the injury. Again, as I said in the original post, I’m not saying Jones isn’t tough; he’s proved over and over how tough he is.
Is it that serious that some of you seem to think he’s done with the Giants?
Personally, if he’s healthy, I don’t think we need to draft a QB, especially since this year’s crop leaves a lot to be desired.
Thanks again.

So let’s show how much of a douche we are why don’t we

I like how you started off saying you’re not questioning his toughness, the proceeded on a rant questioning his toughness. Two thumbs up, would recommend.

with a neck issue...

You sir are a clown...

that he has a nerve pinch and if he takes another hit to the area he could have a blood supply problem. A little more serious than a simple “ neck strain”. Obviously I have no knowledge about this injury just postulating a more serious scenario.

In comment 15478584 VaGman said:

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for making me better understand the severity of the injury. Again, as I said in the original post, I’m not saying Jones isn’t tough; he’s proved over and over how tough he is. Is it that serious that some of you seem to think he’s done with the Giants? Personally, if he’s healthy, I don’t think we need to draft a QB, especially since this year’s crop leaves a lot to be desired. Thanks again.

What was the point of this unknowledgable thread? You don't know anything about the subject, yet you start a thread bashing Jones about it.

As someone posted, on another thread, the reason a lot of people don’t post anymore, is the name calling and “smarter than thou” attitudes. No one can have an opinion or vent without the “special people “ calling them names or telling them how dumb they are or are a clown.
Geez, maybe someday I can grow up to be as smart as you all.

(similar to what Peyton Manning had). Neck issues are NOT to be fucked around with. I can't hold a pen properly to write anymore. (Sounds way worse than it is, I'm fine.) This thread is incredibly misguided.

The OP tells us he's just venting and frustrated That ha rdly seems to warrant the personal attacks that we're seeing.
He provoked a discussion that was interesting and I enjoyed and profited from some of the follow up posts. So no need to apologize, you're in a place that like to dengrate and attack.

In comment 15478613 Grizz99 said:

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The OP tells us he's just venting and frustrated That ha rdly seems to warrant the personal attacks that we're seeing. He provoked a discussion that was interesting and I enjoyed and profited from some of the follow up posts. So no need to apologize, you're in a place that like to dengrate and attack.

He's well within his rights to vent and we're well within our rights to tell him his vent is misguided and reflects a lack of knowledge.

at “we’ve got a shot at the playoffs.”

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

In comment 15478613 Grizz99 said:

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The OP tells us he's just venting and frustrated That ha rdly seems to warrant the personal attacks that we're seeing. He provoked a discussion that was interesting and I enjoyed and profited from some of the follow up posts. So no need to apologize, you're in a place that like to dengrate and attack.

Nihilists, right?

You’re a dink...

Hey Mike from SI, I thanked the posters who educated me on the injury. I learned some things. There were some insightful comments. Unfortunately, yours weren’t one of them. I won’t reply or post anymore because oddly enough I come to this forum for insight on the Giants, movies, TV, food, cooking, etc. and give my opinions and thoughts (right or wrong). You “cool kids” can have it.
This certainly ain’t Pete’s Corner anymore.

if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on?

I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it.

In comment 15478635 Eric from BBI said:

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if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on? I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it.

More conspiracy theories...really?

In comment 15478635 Eric from BBI said:

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if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on? I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it.

Mara pulled the same exact thing in 2019. Jones had a small ankle problem, but they benched him to give Eli some more home games before he retired. The fact that the carpenter had direct contact with the Maras before he broke the news tells me this thing is almost planned out behind the scenes. Judge might already be ready to draft The Ole Miss QB.

If the Giants are so smart and conniving, how come they can’t win more than 6 damn games a year
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You all kill me...

And as I mentioned before, as someone who has c4-c7 fused (two surgeries) I can you it is no joke. It can cause severe arm pain, headaches, loss of strength and dexterity in your arms, shoulders and hands. The issue isn't vertebrae per SE it is disc between vertebrae. Most likely they were hoping numbness, tingling etc would subside and that way they could be certain nerves were not being pinched.

I doubt it is a concocted story because why would Jones play along. They moved very fast to sign a QB which tells me they knew the severity. I think if anything Judge is probably hoping Glennon plays well enough to say Jones was part of the problem. If Judge is going to stay here I am willing to bet he wants his own QB.

And this is the shit he decides to make a stand with...LMAO

In comment 15478675 montanagiant said:

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And this is the shit he decides to make a stand with...LMAO

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pressing on a nerve root or maybe a brachial plexus injury?

Just guessing.

In comment 15478609 VaGman said:

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As someone posted, on another thread, the reason a lot of people don’t post anymore, is the name calling and “smarter than thou” attitudes. No one can have an opinion or vent without the “special people “ calling them names or telling them how dumb they are or are a clown. Geez, maybe someday I can grow up to be as smart as you all.

No. You won't grow up like that. That's not how smartness works.

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I’m so flattered you researched me. Maybe it’s because of people like you that I haven’t posted in 3 yrs. Thought I’d give it a try, but I didn’t get permission from you and your pals who write the rules and decide the topics. Funny . . . I don’t hear any of you tough guys going after Eric , nor should you, for his theory.
Happy holidays fellas.

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In comment 15478635 Eric from BBI said: Quote: if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on? I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it. More conspiracy theories...really?

just a sign o’ the times

threads about cat puke and another about cats in shopping carts with homeless ladies and possibly some where I also acknowledge how bad my thread is because it had the words "rather be sodomized by a goat with a yeast infection and a smile" after exclaiming my displeasure at our current situation.

I deleted most of them at around 1am roughly an hour after posting them.

You should have done the same.

But props for accepting your well deserved abuse.

In comment 15478662 jvm52106 said:

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And as I mentioned before, as someone who has c4-c7 fused (two surgeries) I can you it is no joke. It can cause severe arm pain, headaches, loss of strength and dexterity in your arms, shoulders and hands. The issue isn't vertebrae per SE it is disc between vertebrae. Most likely they were hoping numbness, tingling etc would subside and that way they could be certain nerves were not being pinched. I doubt it is a concocted story because why would Jones play along. They moved very fast to sign a QB which tells me they knew the severity. I think if anything Judge is probably hoping Glennon plays well enough to say Jones was part of the problem. If Judge is going to stay here I am willing to bet he wants his own QB.

Except Jones has practiced all week. He also said he thinks he should play.

Again, odds are the trainers are just being cautious. But something doesn't add up. Even in non-contact drills, Jones has to drop back, scan the field, run around, and throw the ball further than you or I could ever hope to dream.

If his neck really was bad, bad, bad, why would he be practicing?

when they said he could miss the season, yet they're calling it a "strained neck," was spinal stenosis, which David Wilson had and retired from football over. If you recall, Wilson could've played with the stenosis but another neck injury could've paralyzed him, so he obviously made the right choice.

I'm really hoping that's not what it is for Daniel's sake, but just saying that if you read between the lines, that kind of diagnosis wouldn't be a surprise to me.

I don't understand what they think they're going to move on TO.

Next year will almost certainly be make or break for Judge. The team really needs to take a significant step forward, or he's going to be out of here. Knowing that, what QB is going to shake loose in FA or the draft that Judge is going to want to roll the dice with, risking his job security?

bone injury we don’t have a clue because we haven’t seen the imaging studies and other studies. it’s almost certainly more than a muscle strain/tear and may we’ll be a FX part of a vertebrae ( most likely) an injury to the brachial plexus or other nerve injury, severe soft tissue injury to supporting tissues of cervical spine, etc etc.

the medical staff knows and has determined it’s probably a longer term than 2 -3 week injury.mWe’ll never know unless there is a big leak. Giants go forward with # 2 and 3 qb for at least next several weeks.

and we citizens dont have all the facts

Good Luck to Glennon. Of the two, I think Glennon is the better pocket passer. There career QB stats are near identical

We will see tomorrow

In comment 15478635 Eric from BBI said:

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if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on? I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it.

No Eric... if you want to go there, then why not say it is an excuse to give him another year because we did not have a chance to evaluate him without a shitty OC? I mean... if you want a conspiracy theory.

than practice with a red shirt. DJ is for sure a tough dude and if is not medically cleared to play that's it no conspiracy theories.
I'm sure the Giants coaches would like for him to finish the last 6 games as the starter at QB. Regardless of his play this year IMHO DJ gives the Giants the best chance to win. No disrespect to Mike Glennon.

It more likely that the Giants know Jones is the QB next year barring something unforeseen and don’t want to risk long term injury for short term gain in a season unlikely to go anywhere?

the more I consider that the coaching staff might feel that Jones is shell shocked, his confidence is shattered and any further play with the current offensive line would just make things worse.

It could very well be likely that the Giants are trying to avoid "Derek Carr syndrome".

Just a thought based a thin air...

The whole Sidney Crosby concussion situation was a lot like this. He actually had a broken neck that was missed when he got his concussion. In reality he had a small neck fracture that was contributing to his symptoms and a took a while for specialists to figure it out.

It's very possible that DJ injured his neck in the Cowboys and it was undiagnosed and last game it made it worse.

Actually plays like 2018 Barkley? Could Glennon take them to the playoffs?

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Actually plays like 2018 Barkley? Could Glennon take them to the playoffs?

sure... and my mother can win a NASCAR race. She is 83 by the way

In comment 15478766 Ivan15 said:

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Actually plays like 2018 Barkley? Could Glennon take them to the playoffs?

Now that I think about it, any one of these three “what ifs” is equally unlikely. So I guess the odds of all 3 events happening is about 1 in 100,000.

Everyday they don't never come correct
You can ask my man right here with the broken neck
He's a witness to the job never bein' done
He would've been in full effect

In comment 15478728 EricJ said:

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In comment 15478635 Eric from BBI said: Quote: if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on? I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it. No Eric... if you want to go there, then why not say it is an excuse to give him another year because we did not have a chance to evaluate him without a shitty OC? I mean... if you want a conspiracy theory.

So wait, you think them wanting to hide Jones for the rest of the year so they can bring him back next year is as plausible as Eric’s comment? Jeezus man.

Im not sure why you guys are giving Eric such a hard time. His scenario would actually fit right into the operation that we’ve witnessed for the past decade. Would you really be all that surprised if this were true?

I’m not saying it’s true or that I believe it, but I could absolutely see a scenario where the coaching staff is extremely frustrated with Jones’ production, or lack thereof and would like to see if another QB can spark the offense before it’s too late. I guarantee you that the staff and front office see the Giants basically a game out of a wild card and still view this season as on going. And there is no way Mara is going to allow them to potentially embarrass Jones by benching him. He’s been a good soldier. So the simple solution all parties is to over play an injury. It gives them a free shot to evaluate the offense with someone else running it and still allows them to go back to Jones easily enough if Glennon/Fromm stink up the joint. Which is likely.

Again, I’m not saying this is what’s happening but I’d be lying if I said it hasn’t crossed my mind.

He returned before he should last year from his hamstring injury. He returned too soon this year with the concussion. Jones may have a ton of questions, but his toughness is not one of them.

This seems like it was not his call. I won't question it if an NFL doctor won't clear him. It's not as simple as a strained muscle. We can only hope it will not linger or prove a long term concern.