A strained neck . . . A STRAINED NECK??!!

When he definitely shouldn't have.

Keep it classy though.

The carpenter was right, Jones is out for the yr so it's not a strained neck. Whatever it is the giants are hiding it.

😴

probably another concussion and shoulda been evaluated.

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the fact is this is now 2 end of the season injuries during a potential playoff spot run.

not that i think we can make it, but we'll never know if he's not playing.

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In comment 15478531 jeff57 said:

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Well played

Since those muscles protect the spine, the medical staff would not clear him.

This has nothing to do with Jones toughness or lack thereof.

teams and players are dammned if they do and dammned if they don’t.

He plays and he gets injured, stupid to start him.

He sits out, he’s a pussy and is inevitably compared to the players from an era of the game that doesn’t exist anymore.

to popular opinion, most NFL players respect and are greatly influenced by the opinions of people who watch the games from their couch.

What do you give a shit if the kid suffers a permanent spine injury?

Who are you to question an NFL players toughness?

As long a your entertained on a Sunday afternoon.

Asshole.

In comment 15478520 broadbandz said:

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The carpenter was right, Jones is out for the yr so it's not a strained neck. Whatever it is the giants are hiding it.

yep. his toughness is not debatable, so it's more than a strained neck.

In comment 15478537 Eli Wilson said:

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Since those muscles protect the spine, the medical staff would not clear him. This has nothing to do with Jones toughness or lack thereof.

Eli, so you don’t think it something skeletal? Where did you get this info? Your explanation actually makes a lot of sense. It would explain why they would allow movement associated with practice but not contact

It s actually better news, maybe he can play again this season

In comment 15478550 joeinpa said:

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In comment 15478537 Eli Wilson said: Quote: Since those muscles protect the spine, the medical staff would not clear him. This has nothing to do with Jones toughness or lack thereof. Eli, so you don’t think it something skeletal? Where did you get this info? Your explanation actually makes a lot of sense. It would explain why they would allow movement associated with practice but not contact It s actually better news, maybe he can play again this season

It’s something

...a VAG Man.

is a cracked vertebrae in the neck...

But if he cannot go, it’s because he cannot go...

for Most Poorly Thought-Out Handle goes to...

He has about 90 million reasons to tough it out. So whatever the reality is to the injury, I think it must be pretty severe.

I wish him well.

I can see this being a problem.

I had a strain which just needed muscle relaxers. Better in a few days.
I had a strain which needed 3 weeks of physical therapy.
I had a spine/shoulder issue which needed intense chiropractic work because relaxers and massage didn't work. This took about 6 months to recover. I'm lucky, I got all my strength/motion back.

So in summary, since we don't know what it is, we don't know what is needed.

but seriously-- you have no idea what the extent of the injury is or how painful it is. A strained neck is vague and it could be so bad that it makes it painful for a person to even get out of bed. Just like any injury-- the devil is in the details: not all broken legs and sprained ankles are are created equally either. All depends on the nature and severity of the injury.

And a neck injury in particular is one you DO NOT want to mess around with possibly exacerbating /injuring further. Could literally end a person's career.

I say this as someone who has had neck issues all of my adult life going back to slipping a disc in my neck about 8 years ago and even prior to that. I honestly would say I have a fairly high tolerance for pain in most locations of my body, but anything regarding neck and back can be particularly debilitating for anyone, even the toughest sonofabitches.

I agree with adam-- the guy came back from a bad concussion just a week later. That takes guts. And Jones may indeed be worth of the "injury-prone" moniker at this point but I sure as hell wouldn't question his toughness over this one.

In comment 15478580 TheEvilLurker said:

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I can see this being a problem. I had a strain which just needed muscle relaxers. Better in a few days. I had a strain which needed 3 weeks of physical therapy. I had a spine/shoulder issue which needed intense chiropractic work because relaxers and massage didn't work. This took about 6 months to recover. I'm lucky, I got all my strength/motion back. So in summary, since we don't know what it is, we don't know what is needed.

+1

for making me better understand the severity of the injury. Again, as I said in the original post, I’m not saying Jones isn’t tough; he’s proved over and over how tough he is.
Is it that serious that some of you seem to think he’s done with the Giants?
Personally, if he’s healthy, I don’t think we need to draft a QB, especially since this year’s crop leaves a lot to be desired.
Thanks again.

So let’s show how much of a douche we are why don’t we

I like how you started off saying you’re not questioning his toughness, the proceeded on a rant questioning his toughness. Two thumbs up, would recommend.

with a neck issue...

You sir are a clown...

that he has a nerve pinch and if he takes another hit to the area he could have a blood supply problem. A little more serious than a simple “ neck strain”. Obviously I have no knowledge about this injury just postulating a more serious scenario.

In comment 15478584 VaGman said:

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for making me better understand the severity of the injury. Again, as I said in the original post, I’m not saying Jones isn’t tough; he’s proved over and over how tough he is. Is it that serious that some of you seem to think he’s done with the Giants? Personally, if he’s healthy, I don’t think we need to draft a QB, especially since this year’s crop leaves a lot to be desired. Thanks again.

What was the point of this unknowledgable thread? You don't know anything about the subject, yet you start a thread bashing Jones about it.

As someone posted, on another thread, the reason a lot of people don’t post anymore, is the name calling and “smarter than thou” attitudes. No one can have an opinion or vent without the “special people “ calling them names or telling them how dumb they are or are a clown.
Geez, maybe someday I can grow up to be as smart as you all.

(similar to what Peyton Manning had). Neck issues are NOT to be fucked around with. I can't hold a pen properly to write anymore. (Sounds way worse than it is, I'm fine.) This thread is incredibly misguided.

The OP tells us he's just venting and frustrated That ha rdly seems to warrant the personal attacks that we're seeing.
He provoked a discussion that was interesting and I enjoyed and profited from some of the follow up posts. So no need to apologize, you're in a place that like to dengrate and attack.

In comment 15478613 Grizz99 said:

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The OP tells us he's just venting and frustrated That ha rdly seems to warrant the personal attacks that we're seeing. He provoked a discussion that was interesting and I enjoyed and profited from some of the follow up posts. So no need to apologize, you're in a place that like to dengrate and attack.

He's well within his rights to vent and we're well within our rights to tell him his vent is misguided and reflects a lack of knowledge.

at “we’ve got a shot at the playoffs.”

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

In comment 15478613 Grizz99 said:

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The OP tells us he's just venting and frustrated That ha rdly seems to warrant the personal attacks that we're seeing. He provoked a discussion that was interesting and I enjoyed and profited from some of the follow up posts. So no need to apologize, you're in a place that like to dengrate and attack.

Nihilists, right?

You’re a dink...

Hey Mike from SI, I thanked the posters who educated me on the injury. I learned some things. There were some insightful comments. Unfortunately, yours weren’t one of them. I won’t reply or post anymore because oddly enough I come to this forum for insight on the Giants, movies, TV, food, cooking, etc. and give my opinions and thoughts (right or wrong). You “cool kids” can have it.
This certainly ain’t Pete’s Corner anymore.

if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on?

I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it.

In comment 15478635 Eric from BBI said:

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if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on? I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it.

More conspiracy theories...really?

In comment 15478635 Eric from BBI said:

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if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on? I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it.

Mara pulled the same exact thing in 2019. Jones had a small ankle problem, but they benched him to give Eli some more home games before he retired. The fact that the carpenter had direct contact with the Maras before he broke the news tells me this thing is almost planned out behind the scenes. Judge might already be ready to draft The Ole Miss QB.

If the Giants are so smart and conniving, how come they can’t win more than 6 damn games a year
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You all kill me...

And as I mentioned before, as someone who has c4-c7 fused (two surgeries) I can you it is no joke. It can cause severe arm pain, headaches, loss of strength and dexterity in your arms, shoulders and hands. The issue isn't vertebrae per SE it is disc between vertebrae. Most likely they were hoping numbness, tingling etc would subside and that way they could be certain nerves were not being pinched.

I doubt it is a concocted story because why would Jones play along. They moved very fast to sign a QB which tells me they knew the severity. I think if anything Judge is probably hoping Glennon plays well enough to say Jones was part of the problem. If Judge is going to stay here I am willing to bet he wants his own QB.

And this is the shit he decides to make a stand with...LMAO

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And this is the shit he decides to make a stand with...LMAO

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pressing on a nerve root or maybe a brachial plexus injury?

Just guessing.

In comment 15478609 VaGman said:

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As someone posted, on another thread, the reason a lot of people don’t post anymore, is the name calling and “smarter than thou” attitudes. No one can have an opinion or vent without the “special people “ calling them names or telling them how dumb they are or are a clown. Geez, maybe someday I can grow up to be as smart as you all.

No. You won't grow up like that. That's not how smartness works.

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I’m so flattered you researched me. Maybe it’s because of people like you that I haven’t posted in 3 yrs. Thought I’d give it a try, but I didn’t get permission from you and your pals who write the rules and decide the topics. Funny . . . I don’t hear any of you tough guys going after Eric , nor should you, for his theory.
Happy holidays fellas.

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In comment 15478635 Eric from BBI said: Quote: if Jones isn't really hurt all that badly but the Giants want to move on? I don't think this is what is happening, but I wouldn't completely discount it. More conspiracy theories...really?

just a sign o’ the times

threads about cat puke and another about cats in shopping carts with homeless ladies and possibly some where I also acknowledge how bad my thread is because it had the words "rather be sodomized by a goat with a yeast infection and a smile" after exclaiming my displeasure at our current situation.

I deleted most of them at around 1am roughly an hour after posting them.

You should have done the same.

But props for accepting your well deserved abuse.

In comment 15478662 jvm52106 said:

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And as I mentioned before, as someone who has c4-c7 fused (two surgeries) I can you it is no joke. It can cause severe arm pain, headaches, loss of strength and dexterity in your arms, shoulders and hands. The issue isn't vertebrae per SE it is disc between vertebrae. Most likely they were hoping numbness, tingling etc would subside and that way they could be certain nerves were not being pinched. I doubt it is a concocted story because why would Jones play along. They moved very fast to sign a QB which tells me they knew the severity. I think if anything Judge is probably hoping Glennon plays well enough to say Jones was part of the problem. If Judge is going to stay here I am willing to bet he wants his own QB.

Except Jones has practiced all week. He also said he thinks he should play.

Again, odds are the trainers are just being cautious. But something doesn't add up. Even in non-contact drills, Jones has to drop back, scan the field, run around, and throw the ball further than you or I could ever hope to dream.

If his neck really was bad, bad, bad, why would he be practicing?