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Downhill Devin Lloyd getting nasty tonight...

bw in dc : 12/3/2021 8:51 pm
He just took in a P6 against Oregon in the PAC12 Championship game.

Just love everything about this guy's game. Three down LB who goes sideline to sideline, blasts through holes, hammers ball carriers, can blitz and plays the passing game.

If you want a serious LB solution for NYG, this is the player.
he's going to move up the board to just before we pick  
markky : 12/3/2021 8:53 pm : link
i swear to god, every year.
Would love to get him  
jeff57 : 12/3/2021 8:57 pm : link
But it’s a decent LB draft with Damone Clark, Nakobe Dean, Brandon Smith and Christian Harris also available.
RE: he's going to move up the board to just before we pick  
bw in dc : 12/3/2021 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15478549 markky said:
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i swear to god, every year.


I hope not, but you are probably right. This is a top ten talent - or higher.

RE: Would love to get him  
bw in dc : 12/3/2021 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15478555 jeff57 said:
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But it’s a decent LB draft with Damone Clark, Nakobe Dean, Brandon Smith and Christian Harris also available.


Good point, especially like Dean and Harris.
Would love Lloyd as one of our picks  
j_rud : 12/3/2021 8:59 pm : link
I believe it was Sy who said the other day that they need to be careful not to get locked into forcing a need pick at OL at the expense of adding a blue chip talent, and Lloyd is one of the guys in that top 10 range who I hope they don't overlook.

It's been a pain in the ass for those of us who banged the Parsons drum all last winter. Hopefully the next GM is from outside the building and brings a fresh approach.
Just keep your eyes on  
Bill in UT : 12/3/2021 9:01 pm : link
Kuithe at TE
RE: Would love Lloyd as one of our picks  
markky : 12/3/2021 9:02 pm : link
In comment 15478563 j_rud said:
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I believe it was Sy who said the other day that they need to be careful not to get locked into forcing a need pick at OL at the expense of adding a blue chip talent, and Lloyd is one of the guys in that top 10 range who I hope they don't overlook.

It's been a pain in the ass for those of us who banged the Parsons drum all last winter. Hopefully the next GM is from outside the building and brings a fresh approach.


I'm with Sy on this. picking for need gets you Flowers. we have the luxury of having holes everywhere. pick the best player, period.
Karlaftis…  
Brown_Hornet : 12/3/2021 9:11 pm : link
…and Lloyd could be an outstanding 1st round.
Markky wrote  
Grizz99 : 12/3/2021 9:28 pm : link
"pick the best player, period."
Saquon was the best player on the board. undeniably so. Called the best and safest prospect since Manning. Little downside, highupside, Most here are still yowling. So, forgive me, but it all has a\ disingenerous feel to it.
Markky wrote  
Grizz99 : 12/3/2021 9:28 pm : link
"pick the best player, period."
Saquon was the best player on the board. undeniably so. Called the best and safest prospect since Manning. Little downside, highupside, Most here are still yowling. So, forgive me, but it all has a\ disingenerous feel to it.
RE: Markky wrote  
jeff57 : 12/3/2021 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15478603 Grizz99 said:
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"pick the best player, period."
Saquon was the best player on the board. undeniably so. Called the best and safest prospect since Manning. Little downside, highupside, Most here are still yowling. So, forgive me, but it all has a\ disingenerous feel to it.


You don’t take a RB that high.
RE: RE: Markky wrote  
markky : 12/3/2021 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15478610 jeff57 said:
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In comment 15478603 Grizz99 said:


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"pick the best player, period."
Saquon was the best player on the board. undeniably so. Called the best and safest prospect since Manning. Little downside, highupside, Most here are still yowling. So, forgive me, but it all has a\ disingenerous feel to it.



You don’t take a RB that high.


Point well taken. Maybe I should have said best value. Or whatever term you want to use to factor in best player/positional value. My point is don't take a red chip OL if there's a blue chip LB. We need to start collecting talent. we have so many needs that it's going to take more than 1 draft anyway.

but good point.

RE: Markky wrote  
bw in dc : 12/3/2021 9:53 pm : link
In comment 15478603 Grizz99 said:
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"pick the best player, period."
Saquon was the best player on the board. undeniably so. Called the best and safest prospect since Manning. Little downside, highupside, Most here are still yowling. So, forgive me, but it all has a\ disingenerous feel to it.


I don't agree with that and I've been a Penn State fan for 30+ years. Barkley was the most exciting player. But not the best football player.

I wrote before the draft that players like Minkah Fitzpatrick, Derwin James, Nelson, Chubb were better football players - and at more important positions - than Barkley. And those players have been better than Barkley.
If lloyd is like a devin white level  
Payasdaddy : 12/3/2021 10:07 pm : link
I would take him
Him and either Purdue DE, ojadbo or possible even fsu ER with a slight trade down May work
We have 3 picks 40 -75 area. Grab highest rated oline and May sign a decent oline with our 1 FA move we may be able to afford
After that fill TE, RB, developmental wr. Whatever is value at the spot
Linebacker? Giants?  
Jersey Heel : 12/3/2021 10:31 pm : link
Pass. Unfortunately.
RE: Linebacker? Giants?  
j_rud : 12/3/2021 10:36 pm : link
In comment 15478649 Jersey Heel said:
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Pass. Unfortunately.


I guess I'm a fool but I'm holding out hope they go with an outsider as the next GM and we see a completely new approach.
RE: Markky wrote  
Jimmy Googs : 12/3/2021 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15478605 Grizz99 said:
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"pick the best player, period."
Saquon was the best player on the board. undeniably so. Called the best and safest prospect since Manning. Little downside, highupside, Most here are still yowling. So, forgive me, but it all has a\ disingenerous feel to it.


Good post...
RE: Linebacker? Giants?  
Big Rick in FL : 12/4/2021 12:22 am : link
In comment 15478649 Jersey Heel said:
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Pass. Unfortunately.


They were going to draft one last year and he got taken one pick before the Giants pick.
RE: RE: Would love Lloyd as one of our picks  
Bryanjints : 12/4/2021 9:52 am : link
In comment 15478575 markky said:
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In comment 15478563 j_rud said:


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I believe it was Sy who said the other day that they need to be careful not to get locked into forcing a need pick at OL at the expense of adding a blue chip talent, and Lloyd is one of the guys in that top 10 range who I hope they don't overlook.

It's been a pain in the ass for those of us who banged the Parsons drum all last winter. Hopefully the next GM is from outside the building and brings a fresh approach.



I'm with Sy on this. picking for need gets you Flowers. we have the luxury of having holes everywhere. pick the best player, period.


Usually I am 100% in favor of best available but O-line needs to be priority #1,2,3,4,5. There seems to be a lack of available talent in big men at the moment. We need to use multiple picks on lineman.

Line takes 3 to 4 years to develop players. Flowers is doing a good job for WFT. Draft a LB at 5 in April and he'll finish his career somewhere else.
I don't know who but I know what the Giants need  
arniefez : 12/4/2021 10:18 am : link
OL and Front 7 LBs and DE's/Edge with the first 3 picks draft. No DTs with the first 3 picks and hopefully 4 out of the first 5 are OL and DE/Edge and ILB. Big and Fast on defense. Big and Nasty for OL.No DBs, no WRs, hell no RBs, I'd understand if they picked a day 2 TE. They'll need one but not with the first 3 picks.
RE: RE: Linebacker? Giants?  
Jersey Heel : 12/4/2021 12:23 pm : link
In comment 15478705 Big Rick in FL said:
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Pass. Unfortunately.



They were going to draft one last year and he got taken one pick before the Giants pick.

And you know this how?
RE: RE: RE: Linebacker? Giants?  
Mike in NY : 12/4/2021 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15478938 Jersey Heel said:
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In comment 15478649 Jersey Heel said:


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Pass. Unfortunately.



They were going to draft one last year and he got taken one pick before the Giants pick.


And you know this how?


From the sources we were prepared to select Jamin Davis and then Washington selected him
RE: RE: RE: RE: Linebacker? Giants?  
Bear vs Shark : 12/4/2021 1:47 pm : link
In comment 15478939 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15478705 Big Rick in FL said:


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Pass. Unfortunately.



They were going to draft one last year and he got taken one pick before the Giants pick.


And you know this how?



From the sources we were prepared to select Jamin Davis and then Washington selected him
Ah bummer this came out, I really wanted Davis before the draft and was pissed when WFT took him
Lloyd is fantastic, but you know who might even be a better off-the  
Anakim : 12/5/2021 12:15 am : link
-ball LB? Nakobe Dean of Georgia. He's an absolute beast. They both are, but Dean is really fuckin' good.
What do we need?  
OC2.0 : 12/5/2021 12:53 am : link
The same fkg thing we ALWAYS do. OL & LB's
Hutchinson won’t be there  
Earl the goat : 12/5/2021 8:22 am : link
Trade down a bit. Acquire some more draft capital

Draft Lloyd and Ojabo in first

Ojabo is a monster

Hopefully with trade downs we will get additional second round picks
Unless DG is  
section125 : 12/5/2021 8:29 am : link
gone, it will not matter where they pick.

But I agree that a side to side ILB is ranked right up there with OL and ER.
RE: Would love Lloyd as one of our picks  
LauderdaleMatty : 12/5/2021 11:48 am : link
In comment 15478563 j_rud said:
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I believe it was Sy who said the other day that they need to be careful not to get locked into forcing a need pick at OL at the expense of adding a blue chip talent, and Lloyd is one of the guys in that top 10 range who I hope they don't overlook.

It's been a pain in the ass for those of us who banged the Parsons drum all last winter. Hopefully the next GM is from outside the building and brings a fresh approach.


Giants have passing on stud Lbs for two decades. One of the reasons why they suck. They lock in on positions and athletes over football studs.
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