I was thinking this before I read the game preview and agree completely about the importance of Barkley in this game.
Barkley has been debated endlessly and I am not going to disagree with the negatives that people have stated. There is a lot of validity there--probably more so than I want to admit. Also, not looking to debate signing him or not.
However, I still love Barkley and think he can do big things for the Giants. Last game, on the one long run, I felt like I saw the burst the first time this season. Obviously that was the only one he broke, but there was a sign that he got his feet under him.
I get that he is still not 100%, but this is his game to shine. Going up against a strong run defense, backup QB, and a target on his back. I want to see one of those Tiki games where he carries the team and the defense has no answers. He needs to beat the odds and prove himself. Run pissed off.
I hope we even see a little wildcat or creativity with Toney taking snaps at the QB.
Now is the time and the Giants should look on riding him as long as they can. I want to see 25 touches or more.
I realize this may be a major fail and he doesn't preform and there is more material for the naysayers, but I know what my optimist side is expecting.
I say Giants win and Barkley has 200 plus yards of total offense and 2 TDs. If I am wrong, which is may very well be the case, I dont't care--the benefits of being a fan.
that's his basic problem
he would be great in a flag football league- not in the NFL
that's his basic problem
he would be great in a flag football league- not in the NFL
Lol. Except for the times he’s pushed the pile and stiff armed defenders into the dirt. Clown.
Barkley’s problem is the offensive line. He doesn’t trust them, and for good reason. We shouldn’t have drafted playmakers without fixing the line first. Period. For a good analysis of Barkley’s issues, watch Bobby Skinner’s Oline report against the Eagles.
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He disdains contact, he is frightened to take the D head on
that's his basic problem
he would be great in a flag football league- not in the NFL
Lol. Except for the times he’s pushed the pile and stiff armed defenders into the dirt. Clown.
Barkley’s problem is the offensive line. He doesn’t trust them, and for good reason. We shouldn’t have drafted playmakers without fixing the line first. Period. For a good analysis of Barkley’s issues, watch Bobby Skinner’s Oline report against the Eagles.
Dear God, I watched that report and you are taking a few things he said as evidence that Barkley is this stud, physical back. Bobby never said that. He said Barkley was the direct blame on a number of runs but still said he needs to take those 3-4 yard gains and not dance and look for stuff that isn't there and lose yardage or at best gain a yard. It was hardly a ringing endorsement of Barkley .
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In comment 15478719 Batenhorst7 said:
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He disdains contact, he is frightened to take the D head on
that's his basic problem
he would be great in a flag football league- not in the NFL
Lol. Except for the times he’s pushed the pile and stiff armed defenders into the dirt. Clown.
Barkley’s problem is the offensive line. He doesn’t trust them, and for good reason. We shouldn’t have drafted playmakers without fixing the line first. Period. For a good analysis of Barkley’s issues, watch Bobby Skinner’s Oline report against the Eagles.
Dear God, I watched that report and you are taking a few things he said as evidence that Barkley is this stud, physical back. Bobby never said that. He said Barkley was the direct blame on a number of runs but still said he needs to take those 3-4 yard gains and not dance and look for stuff that isn't there and lose yardage or at best gain a yard. It was hardly a ringing endorsement of Barkley .
Was=wasn't
Would you say Barkley is an injury-prone Ron Dayne?
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In comment 15478719 Batenhorst7 said:
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He disdains contact, he is frightened to take the D head on
that's his basic problem
he would be great in a flag football league- not in the NFL
Lol. Except for the times he’s pushed the pile and stiff armed defenders into the dirt. Clown.
Barkley’s problem is the offensive line. He doesn’t trust them, and for good reason. We shouldn’t have drafted playmakers without fixing the line first. Period. For a good analysis of Barkley’s issues, watch Bobby Skinner’s Oline report against the Eagles.
Dear God, I watched that report and you are taking a few things he said as evidence that Barkley is this stud, physical back. Bobby never said that. He said Barkley was the direct blame on a number of runs but still said he needs to take those 3-4 yard gains and not dance and look for stuff that isn't there and lose yardage or at best gain a yard. It was hardly a ringing endorsement of Barkley .
You need to watch it again. He said Barkley on about 3 plays could have gotten a couple yards by just getting what he could get. Aside from the 32 yarder, he said the rest of his 13 carries were on the poor blocking. So basically of 13 carries 8-9 were bad blocks.
Like every other game
Sometimes we need your superstar, which is what he is supposed to be, to step up regardless the situation. I am always quick to point out how they get him in the backfield and he doesn’t get a chance to get going.
I want to see our captain step up with the offense hurting, qb out and just find a way. You can’t expect that to happen every game and it is a team effort but every now and then a player can take over a game.
When Barkley was on fire as a rookie, it felt like the online raised their level, held their blocks longer and took more pride.
Sometimes momentum can raise up a group.
This game will be different if Barkley can break one on the opening drive.
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In comment 15478725 Keaton028 said:
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In comment 15478719 Batenhorst7 said:
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He disdains contact, he is frightened to take the D head on
that's his basic problem
he would be great in a flag football league- not in the NFL
Lol. Except for the times he’s pushed the pile and stiff armed defenders into the dirt. Clown.
Barkley’s problem is the offensive line. He doesn’t trust them, and for good reason. We shouldn’t have drafted playmakers without fixing the line first. Period. For a good analysis of Barkley’s issues, watch Bobby Skinner’s Oline report against the Eagles.
Dear God, I watched that report and you are taking a few things he said as evidence that Barkley is this stud, physical back. Bobby never said that. He said Barkley was the direct blame on a number of runs but still said he needs to take those 3-4 yard gains and not dance and look for stuff that isn't there and lose yardage or at best gain a yard. It was hardly a ringing endorsement of Barkley .
You need to watch it again. He said Barkley on about 3 plays could have gotten a couple yards by just getting what he could get. Aside from the 32 yarder, he said the rest of his 13 carries were on the poor blocking. So basically of 13 carries 8-9 were bad blocks.
You are arguing the wrong point- he never said Barkley was this back (as described above) just that the blocking was poor. He still mentioned how Barkley doesn't take the small gains which are huge to continuing drives.
Do not confuse last weeks blocking as a pass to Barkley overall and that he is this bigtime RB who is only held back by the Oline- that is NOT what Skinner said!
I could not have put it any better myself
The guy is not a "Baller".... he indeed as you described him
and it will never change. It's there for all to see but some refuse to believe their eyes and blame the Oline for his lack of courage and determination
Like the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz, you cannot buy Courage
Glennon is going to have to win this game through the air. They need to hurt the Miami defense for stacking against the run by hitting them over the top. So I don't think this game will be about Barkley, it will be about Glennon.
And unfortunately, if the Giants try and make this game about Barkley then chalk up another loss. He needs to part of an offense with some runs, a few catches in mismatches and some screens but he shouldn't be the primary focus.
It's not efficient.
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He disdains contact, he is frightened to take the D head on
that's his basic problem
he would be great in a flag football league- not in the NFL
Lol. Except for the times he’s pushed the pile and stiff armed defenders into the dirt. Clown.
You're calling someone a clown for suggesting Barkley doesn't like the physical part of the game? Get some new glasses. Bad OLine or not, it's on full display. If he needs a great OLine to be effective he's JAG.
Glennon is going to have to win this game through the air. They need to hurt the Miami defense for stacking against the run by hitting them over the top. So I don't think this game will be about Barkley, it will be about Glennon.
This sounds closer to the truth. Miami has found something lately with their defensive schemes and they are blitzing a hell of a lot. Particularly from their secondary.
Glennon (and the WRs) are going to have to be sharp on their reads, hot routes and taking some shots downfield to make Miami pay for being too aggressive. With our crappy OL he is going to take some hits too so hopefully Fromm learned a lot this week, just in case.
let's see how they do...
I like what Mike Shanahan said eons ago
"we are going to open two lanes for you- pick one and hit it hard and quickly
If you cannot do that, you are going to the bench"
Shanahan would have cut Barkley at halftime
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With our oline that style does not work. The best thing the Giants could do for Barkley is trade him to a team with a good oline. Then his elusive style would be more effective. At least until he gets hurt again.
I like what Mike Shanahan said eons ago
"we are going to open two lanes for you- pick one and hit it hard and quickly
If you cannot do that, you are going to the bench"
Shanahan would have cut Barkley at halftime
Even with our current line, it would be nice to see us with all our skilled players healthy.
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With our oline that style does not work. The best thing the Giants could do for Barkley is trade him to a team with a good oline. Then his elusive style would be more effective. At least until he gets hurt again.
I like what Mike Shanahan said eons ago
"we are going to open two lanes for you- pick one and hit it hard and quickly
If you cannot do that, you are going to the bench"
Shanahan would have cut Barkley at halftime
Lol, you have to open 1 lane before you can open two. It would be nice if they could at least do that.
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With our oline that style does not work. The best thing the Giants could do for Barkley is trade him to a team with a good oline. Then his elusive style would be more effective. At least until he gets hurt again.
I like what Mike Shanahan said eons ago
"we are going to open two lanes for you- pick one and hit it hard and quickly
If you cannot do that, you are going to the bench"
Shanahan would have cut Barkley at halftime
Lol, you have to open 1 lane before you can open two. It would be nice if they could at least do that.
I think you misread my point. Shanahan had zero patience for a guy who did not make a very quick decision and then put his back into it or front in this case
There are holes and creases...we know this from watching Booker and Penny blast through them
Barkley is tentative, cant process the situation, wants to find a lane where he wont get smacked....I guess at Penn State he had wide open holes and college guys dont hit as hard......I cannot wait til we find a new home for this guy or just part ways. He will occasionally make a great play- he is terrific once he clears the front 7. and all his fans will celebrate.
The worst of it management is hell bent on proving Barkley was worth the #2 pick in that draft
What will be the final resolution?
Likely Barkley is traded or cut, Gettleman is fired and Mara stays right where he is.
The team will struggle and fail to move the chains and Barkley will fail to block for the QB til this is accomplished
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didn’t finish their first contract. Think man! You can still find better ways to shit on Barkley and sound reasonably informed.
They will most likely bring 8 and 9 guys at glennon multiple times. Screen pass is the answer. And even the DHC has to admit Barkley is still a weapon in open space. 20 pts should win this game so 2 of these oughta do it
Lol Yes and then called someone a clown for suggesting otherwise. It’s like some people don’t watch the games but come here and defend players that are good on Madden.
Yeah NO
Other teams have had someone waiting for him out there
which welcomes a pick six or a quick tackle of Barkley for no gain
He has to show the other team he can hurt them up the middle or they will just keep putting a spy out there