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CFB Saturday: Huge day

montanagiant : 12/4/2021 10:41 am
Baylor vs OKS
Georgia vs Bama
Michigan vs Iowa
Cincy vs Houston
Pitt vs Wake Forest

Great day for College Football
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My final top 10  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 7:20 am : link
Alabama
Michigan
Georgia
Cincinnati
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Baylor
Mississippi
Michigan State
Pitt
Although I am  
section125 : 12/5/2021 7:27 am : link
a ND fan, it is probably good for them to miss out on the CFP and just get a New Years Day bowl game. They will end up #5 which is outstanding for what was regarded as a re-build year. As well as they played in the final half season, I do not think they are close to the top 4(well maybe Cinncy).

IMV:
#1 Michigan
#2 Alabama
#3 Georgia
#4 Cincinnati

But I am sure CFP wants a Georgia/Alabama rematch so I will bet 'Bama jumps Michigan to #1. But as well as Michigan is playing and as exposed as Georgia was last night, it would not surprise me to see Michigan beat Georgia.
Metchie  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 7:28 am : link
Might be better off coming back for his senior season now.
RE: question for ND fans (SFG, I'm lookin at you)  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 7:51 am : link
In comment 15479762 Leg of Theismann said:
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No offense but why were you guys saying earlier that if you got a rematch with Cinci you think you'd definitely win? Didn't Cinci put a pretty good beat down on ND when they won that game??


I think ND would win if the two met tomorrow. ND was @ the start of the season; new OL, splitting QBs, etc...hell, ND almost lost to freaking Toledo in mid September. ND right now is a MUCH, MUCH better team in December than it was a couple of months ago. We'll never know & the Bearcats deserve to make the CFP.
I’d love to see Michigan #1  
RCPhoenix : 12/5/2021 8:19 am : link
But I don’t see how that happens - Alabama handled the team that was #1 for most of the season.

It will be:

Alabama
Michigan
Georgia
Cincinnati

Dec 31 will be a fun day of college football
RE: RE: I don't know what Ferentz did to offend Harbaugh  
BigBlueShock : 12/5/2021 8:21 am : link
In comment 15479903 Mook80 said:
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In comment 15479898 dpinzow said:


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with Harbaugh calling passes in a game that's already won



Harbaugh always has been and always will be a jerkoff.

Flea flicker up 25 in a game where Ferentz punted waving the white flag.

It's like Joel Klaat isnt even watching the game. "When you're just handing the football off like this its fair game"

Did he miss the 3rd and 4 throw from the 20 yard line into the endzone? Or the flea flicker on 1st down up 25?

It's a scumbag move from a scumbag coach. Great year but winning with class has never been a thing for him, all the way back to Stanford

Didn’t you always rush to defend Harbaugh when he coached San Fran? It seems I remember you always gushing about him because your brother is a Niners fan and whenever someone on BBI had something negative to say about Harbaugh at the time you’d always push back and tell everyone how awesome he was. I don’t remember you saying these things about him when he was running your brothers favorite team. Though I suppose I could be misremembering
RC...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 8:33 am : link
That's how I see it too...

Bama
Michigan
Georgia
Cincy.
If there is anyway they can prevent Georgia from playing Bama  
Jimmy Googs : 12/5/2021 8:35 am : link
again, that would be helpful.

I don't have time for the pain...
Do Saban or Smart win with class?  
RCPhoenix : 12/5/2021 8:36 am : link
Perhaps Harbaugh should have put in his backups when it was 28-3, but the hate on Harbaugh seems disproportionate here. It’s not like he texted his players goodbye
It’s not farfetched  
GNewGiants : 12/5/2021 8:43 am : link
To say Bama and Georgia are the two best teams in the nation. They have been 1-2 for a lot of the year. However that doesn’t mean they should automatically avoid each other in the semi final either. It showing direct bias towards a conference.

Bama did have the best victory but they struggled against many teams this year (Auburn, Arkansas, Florida…). So while they were absolutely awesome this week… so was Michigan the last two weeks.

I don’t think Michigan would have a chance against either, but they probably deserve the 1 seed for their work for the entire year. Remember their only loss came on a very controversial game where the Big 10 admitted the officials royally screwed them basicaly all game.
RE: RE: question for ND fans (SFG, I'm lookin at you)  
section125 : 12/5/2021 9:27 am : link
In comment 15480015 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15479762 Leg of Theismann said:


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No offense but why were you guys saying earlier that if you got a rematch with Cinci you think you'd definitely win? Didn't Cinci put a pretty good beat down on ND when they won that game??



I think ND would win if the two met tomorrow. ND was @ the start of the season; new OL, splitting QBs, etc...hell, ND almost lost to freaking Toledo in mid September. ND right now is a MUCH, MUCH better team in December than it was a couple of months ago. We'll never know & the Bearcats deserve to make the CFP.


I agree. ND is a much different(better)team then when they met two months ago. And Michigan is a much different team then one month ago.

I still put Cincy in at #4 because at 12-0 they deserve it and they did beat ND which definitely counts.
RE: It’s not farfetched  
UConn4523 : 12/5/2021 9:30 am : link
In comment 15480050 GNewGiants said:
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To say Bama and Georgia are the two best teams in the nation. They have been 1-2 for a lot of the year. However that doesn’t mean they should automatically avoid each other in the semi final either. It showing direct bias towards a conference.

Bama did have the best victory but they struggled against many teams this year (Auburn, Arkansas, Florida…). So while they were absolutely awesome this week… so was Michigan the last two weeks.

I don’t think Michigan would have a chance against either, but they probably deserve the 1 seed for their work for the entire year. Remember their only loss came on a very controversial game where the Big 10 admitted the officials royally screwed them basicaly all game.


Michigan hasn't been crushing it this year though. If we are going by that line of thinking then doesn't the games against Nebraska, Rutgers and Penn St. effect things too?

I don't understand how anyone can come away with this thinking that Michigan would lose to Bama but somehow has earned the #1 seed more than them, doesn't compute.
I think they go with:  
PatersonPlank : 12/5/2021 9:35 am : link
1) Mich, 2)Bama, 3)Cincy, 4) Georgia

May switch Bama and Cincy, but the final effect is the same. This seems fair, and sets up for Semi's of Mich-GA and Cincy-Bama.
RE: RE: It’s not farfetched  
GNewGiants : 12/5/2021 9:39 am : link
In comment 15480089 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15480050 GNewGiants said:


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To say Bama and Georgia are the two best teams in the nation. They have been 1-2 for a lot of the year. However that doesn’t mean they should automatically avoid each other in the semi final either. It showing direct bias towards a conference.

Bama did have the best victory but they struggled against many teams this year (Auburn, Arkansas, Florida…). So while they were absolutely awesome this week… so was Michigan the last two weeks.

I don’t think Michigan would have a chance against either, but they probably deserve the 1 seed for their work for the entire year. Remember their only loss came on a very controversial game where the Big 10 admitted the officials royally screwed them basicaly all game.



Michigan hasn't been crushing it this year though. If we are going by that line of thinking then doesn't the games against Nebraska, Rutgers and Penn St. effect things too?

I don't understand how anyone can come away with this thinking that Michigan would lose to Bama but somehow has earned the #1 seed more than them, doesn't compute.


Cause when you’re doing rankings - you take into consideration a years worth of playing. And while Bama May have been a sleeping Giant, they were not a Giant all year.

My point is that they shouldn’t just separate the two SEC teams from playing each just because they just played. Which you know will be a considerations.

And I just looked at Georgia’s schedule. My god - might be the easiest schedule I’ve ever seen. Clemson sucking ass this year hurt them obviously. But my god. No Ole Miss, Miss St, A&M.
I am looking at the body of work  
UConn4523 : 12/5/2021 10:12 am : link
Michigan had 3 close games as well, one of which was to Rutgers. If you are singing Alabama for their close games than do the same for Michigan.
RE: I think they go with:  
Mike in NY : 12/5/2021 10:14 am : link
In comment 15480091 PatersonPlank said:
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1) Mich, 2)Bama, 3)Cincy, 4) Georgia

May switch Bama and Cincy, but the final effect is the same. This seems fair, and sets up for Semi's of Mich-GA and Cincy-Bama.


I am thinking Bama-Mich-Georgia-Cincy
RE: It’s not farfetched  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 10:22 am : link
In comment 15480050 GNewGiants said:
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To say Bama and Georgia are the two best teams in the nation. They have been 1-2 for a lot of the year. However that doesn’t mean they should automatically avoid each other in the semi final either. It showing direct bias towards a conference.

Bama did have the best victory but they struggled against many teams this year (Auburn, Arkansas, Florida…). So while they were absolutely awesome this week… so was Michigan the last two weeks.

I don’t think Michigan would have a chance against either, but they probably deserve the 1 seed for their work for the entire year. Remember their only loss came on a very controversial game where the Big 10 admitted the officials royally screwed them basicaly all game.


I actually think Michigan has a chance in the playoff. No Metchie for Alabama, plus they are getting Georgia in the midst of a QB controversy
Bama-Cincy  
Del Shofner : 12/5/2021 10:23 am : link
and Mich-GA

should be interesting games. I also think that's how it comes out.
RE: RC...  
Brown_Hornet : 12/5/2021 10:25 am : link
In comment 15480034 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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That's how I see it too...

Bama
Michigan
Georgia
Cincy.

I don’t like leap frogging a team that beat a top 15 team but if the committee does it, Cinn should be at 3.

Nothing wrong with the rematch here.
RE: RE: I think they go with:  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 10:36 am : link
In comment 15480120 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15480091 PatersonPlank said:


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1) Mich, 2)Bama, 3)Cincy, 4) Georgia

May switch Bama and Cincy, but the final effect is the same. This seems fair, and sets up for Semi's of Mich-GA and Cincy-Bama.



I am thinking Bama-Mich-Georgia-Cincy


That’s what it will be.
Bama essentially beat Georgia...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 10:44 am : link
in Georgia's second home stadium. And convincingly. They are undisputed #1.

Cincinnati is a great team. Ridder is now a first round QB. He's far better than either QB for Georgia or Michigan. But they will be #4 because of the conference concern.

So Michigan/Georgia are either 2 or 3.

I have no doubt,btw, if Cincinnati did get seeded higher and played Michigan they would win by a TD. They match up very, very well.

There was a tweet with video catching Harbaugh on his headset  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 10:44 am : link
saying “we have a chance to be the #1 seed” late in the 4th quarter. So that explains why Michigan was still throwing the ball in a game they already won. Confirms what I was thinking last night
RE: Alabama continues to be the gold standard...  
HomerJones45 : 12/5/2021 10:45 am : link
In comment 15479615 bw in dc said:
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The culture Saban has built is one of the greatest in team sports history.
Gold standard for the use of booster money. They've done a great job taking advantage of the Newton rule and buying players from all over.

Who cares about this phoney-baloney playoff system. The idiot sportswriters didn't like the coaches poll and beat the drum for a "playoff", the NCAA saw a tv money bonanza, and here is the result- the Cornpone Invitational. Yawn
RE: RE: Alabama continues to be the gold standard...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 11:04 am : link
In comment 15480156 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 15479615 bw in dc said:


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The culture Saban has built is one of the greatest in team sports history.

Gold standard for the use of booster money. They've done a great job taking advantage of the Newton rule and buying players from all over.

Who cares about this phoney-baloney playoff system. The idiot sportswriters didn't like the coaches poll and beat the drum for a "playoff", the NCAA saw a tv money bonanza, and here is the result- the Cornpone Invitational. Yawn


However Saban/Alabama gets the talent, Saban's ability to develop, motivate and coach that talent is the bigger story.

He's changed with the times and has a record that is unmatched.

The other stuff about the playoffs, money, etc is a different topic. I love a tournament over the BSC system of exhibition bowl system and hope the go to 8 or 12.
I hope they stay at 4  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 11:06 am : link
And not dilute it the way the NFL has done.
I want the playoff to go to 8 at some point  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 11:08 am : link
But not before Notre Dame joins a conference
RE: I hope they stay at 4  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 12:05 pm : link
In comment 15480188 jeff57 said:
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And not dilute it the way the NFL has done.


Going to 8 doesn't dilute anything. It actually helps the smaller conferences, which is a great thing. And will likely lead to auto bids for the bigger conference champions.

So what's not to like?
RE: I want the playoff to go to 8 at some point  
section125 : 12/5/2021 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15480193 dpinzow said:
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But not before Notre Dame joins a conference


Why does that matter?

Just make it 8 teams and be done with it.
RE: RE: I want the playoff to go to 8 at some point  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 12:10 pm : link
In comment 15480281 section125 said:
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In comment 15480193 dpinzow said:


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But not before Notre Dame joins a conference



Why does that matter?

Just make it 8 teams and be done with it.


It matters because an independent Notre Dame can go 10-2 and be the #8 seed every year if they remain independent in an 8 team playoff scenario
RE: I want the playoff to go to 8 at some point  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 12:10 pm : link
In comment 15480193 dpinzow said:
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But not before Notre Dame joins a conference


I think it dilutes. And it’ll be a slippery slope.
RE: RE: I want the playoff to go to 8 at some point  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15480285 jeff57 said:
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In comment 15480193 dpinzow said:


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But not before Notre Dame joins a conference



I think it dilutes. And it’ll be a slippery slope.


I want 8

The 5 auto bids from each conference, provided the conference champion is a 2 loss team or better

An auto bid for the best non-Power 5 team

The best two at-larges
RE: RE: RE: I want the playoff to go to 8 at some point  
section125 : 12/5/2021 12:24 pm : link
In comment 15480284 dpinzow said:
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In comment 15480281 section125 said:


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In comment 15480193 dpinzow said:


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But not before Notre Dame joins a conference



Why does that matter?

Just make it 8 teams and be done with it.



It matters because an independent Notre Dame can go 10-2 and be the #8 seed every year if they remain independent in an 8 team playoff scenario


Not getting your logic. They still need to be ranked. So if they join Conference US or MAAC that is good enough?
RE: RE: RE: RE: I want the playoff to go to 8 at some point  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 12:28 pm : link
In comment 15480298 section125 said:
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In comment 15480284 dpinzow said:


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In comment 15480281 section125 said:


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In comment 15480193 dpinzow said:


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But not before Notre Dame joins a conference



Why does that matter?

Just make it 8 teams and be done with it.



It matters because an independent Notre Dame can go 10-2 and be the #8 seed every year if they remain independent in an 8 team playoff scenario



Not getting your logic. They still need to be ranked. So if they join Conference US or MAAC that is good enough?


Join a Power 5 conference

The end
RE: There was a tweet with video catching Harbaugh on his headset  
Mook80 : 12/5/2021 12:29 pm : link
In comment 15480152 dpinzow said:
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saying “we have a chance to be the #1 seed” late in the 4th quarter. So that explains why Michigan was still throwing the ball in a game they already won. Confirms what I was thinking last night


Michigan had zero chance to be the #1 seed after Bama hammered Georgia. And the committee was actually watching the games together, they weren't going to make them #1 because they ran the score up on Iowa.

College football playoff semifinals  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 12:29 pm : link
#1 Alabama vs. #4 Cincinnati
#2 Michigan vs. #3 Georgia

No surprises there
What is this obsession ND  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 12:30 pm : link
Join a conference?
it's funny  
Mook80 : 12/5/2021 12:31 pm : link
how mad people get about Notre Dame not joining a conference.

For one if they join a conference their schedule most years would be much easier and sometimes significantly easier.

Anyone who wants ND to join a conference better pray the playoff never expands, because if it does they aren't joining a conference ever.
you can't always believe what these chairs  
Mook80 : 12/5/2021 12:33 pm : link
say in the interviews, but doesn't seem like there was even a debate between bama and michigan for the 1 spot.
CFB committee chairman  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 12:35 pm : link
--Alabama beating Georgia the way they did, plus their body of work in the SEC made them #1 going into the playoff, and outweighed Michigan's performances the last two weeks. Committee had a "strong consensus" on this. (Agree with committee)

--Said that they don't talk about setting up potential rematches of conference championship games in the semifinals

--Cincinnati is the last undefeated team that just won a conference championship. Won at ND. There was a strong consensus that Cincinnati was #4

--No discussion on what would have happened if Oklahoma State won and there was a controversy between them and Cincinnati for #4
They would have taken Cincy  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 12:37 pm : link
Over OK State.
Opening Vegas lines: Alabama and Georgia big favorites  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 12:49 pm : link
Alabama -13.5 vs. Cincinnati
Georgia -7 vs. Michigan
Bowl game sites  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 12:52 pm : link
Alabama vs. Cincinnati--Dallas, TX
Michigan vs. Georgia--Miami, FL
Not surprising  
GNewGiants : 12/5/2021 12:54 pm : link
Georgia and Bama probably the two best teams.

The geography of these bowl games suck though. Favors southern teams.

Michigan will need better QB play because Georgia’s secondary isn’t good.
RE: Not surprising  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15480345 GNewGiants said:
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Georgia and Bama probably the two best teams.

The geography of these bowl games suck though. Favors southern teams.

Michigan will need better QB play because Georgia’s secondary isn’t good.


Georgia has a good secondary actually.

But they got exposed yesterday due to the last of pass rush.

Marrone did a great job getting the Bama OL fixed after the Auburn fiasco.
RE: Not surprising  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 1:18 pm : link
In comment 15480345 GNewGiants said:
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Georgia and Bama probably the two best teams.

The geography of these bowl games suck though. Favors southern teams.

Michigan will need better QB play because Georgia’s secondary isn’t good.


I think they are but Georgia has a QB problem right now. Think they'll have to switch to JT Daniels to have a legit shot in the playoff
RE: Bowl game sites  
islander1 : 12/5/2021 2:02 pm : link
In comment 15480340 dpinzow said:
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Alabama vs. Cincinnati--Dallas, TX
Michigan vs. Georgia--Miami, FL


I'm going to cheer like hell for Cinncinnati. I don't expect them to win, but I'd love to see them make a great national showing.
RE: RE: Bowl game sites  
Del Shofner : 12/5/2021 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15480751 islander1 said:
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In comment 15480340 dpinzow said:


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Alabama vs. Cincinnati--Dallas, TX
Michigan vs. Georgia--Miami, FL



I'm going to cheer like hell for Cinncinnati. I don't expect them to win, but I'd love to see them make a great national showing.


Same. Don't really know why, but I spend a lot of time in Cincy years ago, for business, and I'm just rooting for them. It's a serious sports town.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 2:19 pm : link
I'm rooting for the Bearcats & the Dawgs.

Gun to head...I think it is 'Bama-UGA rematch.
anyone  
GiantsLaw : 12/5/2021 2:38 pm : link
but Michigan
ND OK State.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 2:58 pm : link
Fiesta Bowl.

I like that matchup for ND.
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