If I am Dawgs fan right now...I am spooked. Between Bennett & no show D...
Spooked for sure. But undeserving of the 2nd chance that every other elite 1 loss team (most of whom didn't have nearly as impressive of a resume otherwise) has gotten this year?
That's all I'm saying.
Not saying they're definitely still title-bound. But many great teams over the years have laid a big fat stinker at some point. Every '85 Bears has their MNF against Marino. Now, usually those come in the middle of the season and not the SEC title game, but at the same time I think this is different because Georgia was in a unique position where literally anything could happen today and they would've still gotten in. Like an exhibition game at that point.
Also I'm gonna say one more thing: I have to imagine it seemed psychologically daunting realizing that if they had beaten Alabama, but hadn't beaten them by ENOUGH, it was very likely that Alabama would've gotten in as #4 and Georgia would've had to play them again regardless. I have to imagine that sucks especially against a team like Alabama, you're daunted rival. Like-- after all Georgia has done, if they'd found a way to beat Alabama by 3 points today, they would've had to turn around and just play them all over again? Like they would've had to beat them by like 17 to kill them? It's like shooting the T-1000 with that bazooka gun thing that Terminator had and he just kept coming back. haha
ND is not making the CFP. And as an ND fan, I am fine with that. NY 6 bowl...Peach or Fiesta...is fine with me.
ND will be back in CFP soon enough with a loaded roster. Just hoping Marcus is better game day coach than Kirby.
BTW-- What do you think happens if Michigan loses tonight? (Even though I'm already on the record basically saying it is categorically impossible for that to happen in this space-time reality as we know it-- what do I know lol.)
likely see Bama-Georgia again on January 10th. Georgia I would assume would be much more prepared for Bama's passing attack but still dont think they'd win.
There is NO comparison between the Georgia coaching staff and Bamas.
Saban, O'Brien, Marrone, Golding, etc.
Congratulations bw, you said "Book it" last week and were dead on (as much as I would have liked to have seen Georgia win). I should have listened to you and bet big $$ today.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
There is NO comparison between the Georgia coaching staff and Bamas.
Saban, O'Brien, Marrone, Golding, etc.
Congratulations bw, you said "Book it" last week and were dead on (as much as I would have liked to have seen Georgia win). I should have listened to you and bet big $$ today.
Thanks. I had a feeling Marrone would get the OL right and Young would he can make more winning plays than Bennett.
And Saban knows how to win these games. Let's face it - Bama is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent at every position. It's an amazing amount of depth.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
Cinci will have to play Alabama in the semi-final.
Talk about trial by fire for the Group of 5 amirite??? lol. Well no better way to learn how to swim than jumping in the deep end. First group of 5 CFP game against the most successful program in the history of the CFP. Carrying the torch is never easy.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
Michigan beat Wisconsin by 3 TDs, Iowa lost to Wisconsin by 3 TDs. Iowa would have to have a big one to knock out Michigan.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
Michigan beat Wisconsin by 3 TDs, Iowa lost to Wisconsin by 3 TDs. Iowa would have to have a big one to knock out Michigan.
Oh ok so that should absolutely matter more than Iowa beating Michigan tonight if it were to happen, right? Clearly the way they each played against the same opponent would matter more than an actual head to head meeting in the conference title game.
Michigan wouldnt even be in the mix if they lose tonight. I very much doubt they will lose, but if it happens they have as much chance to play in the playoffs as Rutgers does
Simply put Michigan loses badly, or not even badly
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
Michigan beat Wisconsin by 3 TDs, Iowa lost to Wisconsin by 3 TDs. Iowa would have to have a big one to knock out Michigan.
Oh ok so that should absolutely matter more than Iowa beating Michigan tonight if it were to happen, right? Clearly the way they each played against the same opponent would matter more than an actual head to head meeting in the conference title game.
Michigan wouldnt even be in the mix if they lose tonight. I very much doubt they will lose, but if it happens they have as much chance to play in the playoffs as Rutgers does
Ask Michigan state if the committee gave a fuck that they’d beaten Michigan head to head. Once Michigan state lost in week 10, it didn’t matter that they had 1 loss equal to Michigan’s 1 loss while having the head to head win, the CFP ranked Michigan ahead of MSU that week and the following week as well regardless.
They just put in the team that they believe is better— and they do base it on a lot of quantitative and qualitive analysis that is real, it’s just that I don’t think head to head holds the executive significance you imagine it holds and that I guess it holds in other sports’ tiebreakers.
I think they are more spooked that Saban lives in Kirby’s head.
Ask Kirby Smart LOL
Spooked for sure. But undeserving of the 2nd chance that every other elite 1 loss team (most of whom didn't have nearly as impressive of a resume otherwise) has gotten this year?
That's all I'm saying.
Not saying they're definitely still title-bound. But many great teams over the years have laid a big fat stinker at some point. Every '85 Bears has their MNF against Marino. Now, usually those come in the middle of the season and not the SEC title game, but at the same time I think this is different because Georgia was in a unique position where literally anything could happen today and they would've still gotten in. Like an exhibition game at that point.
Also I'm gonna say one more thing: I have to imagine it seemed psychologically daunting realizing that if they had beaten Alabama, but hadn't beaten them by ENOUGH, it was very likely that Alabama would've gotten in as #4 and Georgia would've had to play them again regardless. I have to imagine that sucks especially against a team like Alabama, you're daunted rival. Like-- after all Georgia has done, if they'd found a way to beat Alabama by 3 points today, they would've had to turn around and just play them all over again? Like they would've had to beat them by like 17 to kill them? It's like shooting the T-1000 with that bazooka gun thing that Terminator had and he just kept coming back. haha
ND will be back in CFP soon enough with a loaded roster. Just hoping Marcus is better game day coach than Kirby.
ND will be back in CFP soon enough with a loaded roster. Just hoping Marcus is better game day coach than Kirby.
BTW-- What do you think happens if Michigan loses tonight? (Even though I'm already on the record basically saying it is categorically impossible for that to happen in this space-time reality as we know it-- what do I know lol.)
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Notre Dame is in.
They’d have to lose by at least 3 TDs
On what planet would Michigan be in even with a loss?
Saban, O'Brien, Marrone, Golding, etc.
Congratulations bw, you said "Book it" last week and were dead on (as much as I would have liked to have seen Georgia win). I should have listened to you and bet big $$ today.
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Notre Dame is in.
They’d have to lose by at least 3 TDs
On what planet would Michigan be in even with a loss?
This one
Michigan has to win to get in.
ND will be back in CFP soon enough with a loaded roster. Just hoping Marcus is better game day coach than Kirby.
For the love of God, there’s another poll on Monday that will decide it.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
No. Alabama is #1
No. Bama is going to #1.
I just don't see them losing.
Iowa 2 losses. Iowa conference title. Iowa beat Michigan.
Michigan has to win to get in.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
It makes our current offense look like the '99 Rams.
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no conference championship.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
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There is NO comparison between the Georgia coaching staff and Bamas.
Saban, O'Brien, Marrone, Golding, etc.
Congratulations bw, you said "Book it" last week and were dead on (as much as I would have liked to have seen Georgia win). I should have listened to you and bet big $$ today.
Thanks. I had a feeling Marrone would get the OL right and Young would he can make more winning plays than Bennett.
And Saban knows how to win these games. Let's face it - Bama is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent at every position. It's an amazing amount of depth.
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no conference championship.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
All good points and likely true.
Michigan ain't losing though.
Michigan is out if they lose. I just don't see them losing.
Talk about trial by fire for the Group of 5 amirite??? lol. Well no better way to learn how to swim than jumping in the deep end. First group of 5 CFP game against the most successful program in the history of the CFP. Carrying the torch is never easy.
Michigan is out if they lose. I just don't see them losing.
And I was right too.
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no conference championship.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
Michigan beat Wisconsin by 3 TDs, Iowa lost to Wisconsin by 3 TDs. Iowa would have to have a big one to knock out Michigan.
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no conference championship.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
Michigan beat Wisconsin by 3 TDs, Iowa lost to Wisconsin by 3 TDs. Iowa would have to have a big one to knock out Michigan.
Oh ok so that should absolutely matter more than Iowa beating Michigan tonight if it were to happen, right? Clearly the way they each played against the same opponent would matter more than an actual head to head meeting in the conference title game.
Michigan wouldnt even be in the mix if they lose tonight. I very much doubt they will lose, but if it happens they have as much chance to play in the playoffs as Rutgers does
Nope.
Iowa isn’t the #1 team in the nation. You keep disregarding massive details for some reason.
Except Michigan has no where near the clout that Bama does in the committee's eyes.
And again, please tell me how they would get in over Iowa if they lost. Both would be 11-2. One would have had to head and a title and one would not.
If your argument is what they did against Wisconsin, then you already lost.
Neither Iowa or Michigan will be considered if Michigan loses. It will come down to ND and Baylor.
Baylor beat the number 5,team with a goal line stand. Notre Dame was watching the games on TV. They deserve it imo.
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The same way Alabama would have been in with 2 losses.
Iowa isn’t the #1 team in the nation. You keep disregarding massive details for some reason.
He's delusional
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The same way Alabama would have been in with 2 losses.
Except Michigan has no where near the clout that Bama does in the committee's eyes.
And again, please tell me how they would get in over Iowa if they lost. Both would be 11-2. One would have had to head and a title and one would not.
If your argument is what they did against Wisconsin, then you already lost.
Neither Iowa or Michigan will be considered if Michigan loses. It will come down to ND and Baylor.
Baylor would not get in over Iowa. ND might
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Assuming Michigan wins...they are in. Along with Bama. UGA. & Cincy.
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no conference championship.
They aren't getting in. If you want to put a 2 loss team in over ND, it certainly wont be Michigan. It would be Baylor.
There's not an argument to be made for Michigan being in with a loss. You can't have amnesia and forget that they have two losses if they were to lose. One great performance at home wouldn't change the fact that they had two losses and no conference title.
1 loss by 1 point. Dominating win over a top 4 team. And there’s nobody else. Notre Dame has a weak schedule and conference championship game
If they lose tonight, they'd have two losses. And please explain how the committee could justify putting Michigan in over Iowa if Michigan loses tonight. Forget ND and everyone else. If both teams are 11-2, one has a conference title and that same team beat Michigan, you couldn't even justify putting them in over Iowa.
Michigan played a great game against Ohio State. That doesn't mean you would just ignore that they have 2 losses and didnt win the conference title.
There isnt a path for michigan getting in with a loss
Michigan beat Wisconsin by 3 TDs, Iowa lost to Wisconsin by 3 TDs. Iowa would have to have a big one to knock out Michigan.
Oh ok so that should absolutely matter more than Iowa beating Michigan tonight if it were to happen, right? Clearly the way they each played against the same opponent would matter more than an actual head to head meeting in the conference title game.
Michigan wouldnt even be in the mix if they lose tonight. I very much doubt they will lose, but if it happens they have as much chance to play in the playoffs as Rutgers does
Ask Michigan state if the committee gave a fuck that they’d beaten Michigan head to head. Once Michigan state lost in week 10, it didn’t matter that they had 1 loss equal to Michigan’s 1 loss while having the head to head win, the CFP ranked Michigan ahead of MSU that week and the following week as well regardless.
They just put in the team that they believe is better— and they do base it on a lot of quantitative and qualitive analysis that is real, it’s just that I don’t think head to head holds the executive significance you imagine it holds and that I guess it holds in other sports’ tiebreakers.
Here's why - they are a historic program with a great fan base that draws ratings. If you don't think that matters than you are naive...
Here's why - they are a historic program with a great fan base that draws ratings. If you don't think that matters than you are naive...
I don’t think that will have any bearing - if Michigan loses they fall out of the top 4 and ND is next team up, simple as that.