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Solder a game time decision and other injury notes

armstead98 : 12/4/2021 3:00 pm
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Dan Duggan
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What I’ve gathered on the Giants injuries:

• WR Sterling Shepard and WR Kadarius Toney (both doubtful) won’t play.

• Of the questionable group, WR John Ross is expected to play. RT Nate Solder will likely be a game-time decision after a pregame workout…
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Interesting  
mattlawson : 12/4/2021 3:11 pm : link
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It would be funny, after all the bitching  
Bill in UT : 12/4/2021 3:13 pm : link
about Peart, if they end up having to start him at RT
RE: It would be funny, after all the bitching  
armstead98 : 12/4/2021 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15479148 Bill in UT said:
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about Peart, if they end up having to start him at RT


Especially if he plays well
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I am Ninja : 12/4/2021 3:27 pm : link
it would be funnier if toney played, ever.
Up to  
Toth029 : 12/4/2021 3:28 pm : link
Seven missed games now for ol Shepard.
Shep and Toney are worthless.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/4/2021 3:29 pm : link
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I'll go ahead and say it  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 12/4/2021 3:41 pm : link
Shep's a bust.
We should have just IR'd  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/4/2021 4:04 pm : link
Shep and Toney in preseason. Would have benefited the team more.
RE: I'll go ahead and say it  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2021 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15479198 Bavaro_the_Mafioso said:
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Shep's a bust.

Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.
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jvm52106 : 12/4/2021 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15479237 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Shep's a bust.


Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.


Yeah, can't say bust. Now bad contract , absolutely!
RE: RE: I'll go ahead and say it  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 12/4/2021 4:40 pm : link
In comment 15479237 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Shep's a bust.


Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.


Ok,he's been a huge disappointment. The contract, the play, and the injury history. Happy?
RE: RE: It would be funny, after all the bitching  
Mdgiantsfan : 12/4/2021 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15479154 armstead98 said:
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about Peart, if they end up having to start him at RT



Especially if he plays well


Yeah especially how emphatic Sale was in saying Nate was better. If he is marektedly better, then the quality of the coaching could come into play.
RE: RE: RE: It would be funny, after all the bitching  
section125 : 12/4/2021 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15479248 Mdgiantsfan said:
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about Peart, if they end up having to start him at RT



Especially if he plays well



Yeah especially how emphatic Sale was in saying Nate was better. If he is marektedly better, then the quality of the coaching could come into play.


Good Lord. He said Solder was, at this time, better because Peart practices like shit.
It is a motivational tool to wake Peart up.
This may not age well  
arniefez : 12/4/2021 5:14 pm : link
but if Peart and Glennon play better than Jones and Solder (hopefully he'll be scratched) I won't be surprised.
RE: RE: RE: I'll go ahead and say it  
BigBlueJ : 12/4/2021 5:29 pm : link
In comment 15479247 Bavaro_the_Mafioso said:
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In comment 15479198 Bavaro_the_Mafioso said:


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Shep's a bust.


Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.



Ok,he's been a huge disappointment. The contract, the play, and the injury history. Happy?


Is this not the definition of a bust. Yes other Giant receivers were cut short due to injury but they lived up to their billing.

Hicks
Steve Smith
Cruz


RE: RE: RE: RE: I'll go ahead and say it  
bradshaw44 : 12/4/2021 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15479322 BigBlueJ said:
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Shep's a bust.


Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.



Ok,he's been a huge disappointment. The contract, the play, and the injury history. Happy?



Is this not the definition of a bust. Yes other Giant receivers were cut short due to injury but they lived up to their billing.

Hicks
Steve Smith
Cruz



Who is Hicks? Did you mean Nicks or Hixon?
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Chocco : 12/4/2021 6:14 pm : link
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Shep's a bust.


Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.



Ok,he's been a huge disappointment. The contract, the play, and the injury history. Happy?



Is this not the definition of a bust. Yes other Giant receivers were cut short due to injury but they lived up to their billing.

Hicks
Steve Smith
Cruz





Who is Hicks? Did you mean Nicks or Hixon?

On Shepard, on Hilliard on Smith and on Hixon. On Barden on Cruz, on Nicks and on Dixon
Ho Ho Ho
How do I get out of this chickenshit outfit?  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/4/2021 6:23 pm : link
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BigBlueJ : 12/4/2021 6:57 pm : link
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Shep's a bust.


Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.



Ok,he's been a huge disappointment. The contract, the play, and the injury history. Happy?



Is this not the definition of a bust. Yes other Giant receivers were cut short due to injury but they lived up to their billing.

Hicks
Steve Smith
Cruz





Who is Hicks? Did you mean Nicks or Hixon?


On Shepard, on Hilliard on Smith and on Hixon. On Barden on Cruz, on Nicks and on Dixon
Ho Ho Ho


Dammit it haunts me to this day! Nicks!
Best thing for this franchise  
Dave on the UWS : 12/4/2021 8:02 pm : link
is for Glennon to play well, and Peart to “have” to start and play well.
Shep isn't a bust  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2021 8:52 pm : link
A bust is a guy who can't play in the league. Brian Alford was a bust.
RE: Shep isn't a bust  
Ned In Atlanta : 12/4/2021 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15479707 Greg from LI said:
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A bust is a guy who can't play in the league. Brian Alford was a bust.


He’s an above average WR the 5 games he plays a year. But being available is part of the job, which he is not good at. Amazing they restructured his contract after drafting Toney and signed Golloday
I'll go ahead and say it......  
thrunthrublue : 12/4/2021 9:49 pm : link
DG is a bust. "2022....done with you!".
RE: RE: RE: I'll go ahead and say it  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2021 9:56 pm : link
In comment 15479247 Bavaro_the_Mafioso said:
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Shep's a bust.


Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.



Ok,he's been a huge disappointment. The contract, the play, and the injury history. Happy?



Words have correct meanings.
There's nothing wrong with his play. That's how he got his second contract. It's the injuries.

What were these expectations you had for him? He was never a WR1 type of player. Ever. He wasn't supposed to be.

Slot guys aren't going to put up big numbers on shit offenses with no OL and no QB.
Golden Tate signing ruined his career  
WillieYoung : 12/4/2021 10:03 pm : link
Lost two years in his prime trying to play outside, Great kid, but he's lost the ability to stay on the field. It won't get better.
Steve smith was a better player but didn't last as long. Brutal sport.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'll go ahead and say it  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 12/4/2021 10:30 pm : link
In comment 15479815 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Shep's a bust.


Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.



Ok,he's been a huge disappointment. The contract, the play, and the injury history. Happy?




Words have correct meanings.
There's nothing wrong with his play. That's how he got his second contract. It's the injuries.

What were these expectations you had for him? He was never a WR1 type of player. Ever. He wasn't supposed to be.

Slot guys aren't going to put up big numbers on shit offenses with no OL and no QB.


Semantics, great. You apparently believe he's lived up to his draft status and contract, I dont.

This isn't personal; I like the person but he's JAG and is an average Joe. In my eyes he fell way short of expectations = bust.
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Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 12/4/2021 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15479829 Bavaro_the_Mafioso said:
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In comment 15479247 Bavaro_the_Mafioso said:


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Shep's a bust.


Hes on his 6th season. Weird time to make this comment.

Just like the half dozen other Giants players that had their careers cut short by injuries, he's a good player that was broken by the sport.



Ok,he's been a huge disappointment. The contract, the play, and the injury history. Happy?




Words have correct meanings.
There's nothing wrong with his play. That's how he got his second contract. It's the injuries.

What were these expectations you had for him? He was never a WR1 type of player. Ever. He wasn't supposed to be.

Slot guys aren't going to put up big numbers on shit offenses with no OL and no QB.



Semantics, great. You apparently believe he's lived up to his draft status and contract, I dont.

This isn't personal; I like the person but he's JAG and is an average Joe. In my eyes he fell way short of expectations = bust.


And to be honest, I always felt like DG rushed to lock him up right after the OBJ trade but we didnt have much else by WR on the roster.

Maybe I'm being harsh but so tired of mediocrity.
i wonder if  
Platos : 12/4/2021 10:55 pm : link
this peart thing is just weird smoke and mirrors from the coaches while trying to get peart revved up.

is solder really hurt? it was a last minute add to the injury list right? maybe its a way to bench him without telling the world he sucks, as if his play didn't do that already...

maybe we can trade him for a late round pick in april?

unbelievable this is our team right now
 
christian : 12/4/2021 11:05 pm : link
Shepard’s extension was probably 10-15% above market for his productivity and it was weird because he had a pedestrian season in 2018.

To command that contract after the 2019 season, he would have needed to really step it up.

I believe the Giants are going to cut Shepard as one of the first orders of business this offseason. There’s no reason to pay him 8.4M.
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Banks : 12/5/2021 2:42 am : link
Glennon must be thrilled. The guy is probably thinking hes still young enough that if she shows something he can get a shot somewhere even as a stop gap and his opportunity comes on a shitty roster where half the team is injured. This has to be one of the least fun years in recent memory and that says something
Come On....Peart....this could be his last chance with Giants!  
George from PA : 12/5/2021 7:46 am : link
Still would draft several OLmen....this OL must be fixed next year.

Sale 1st year as OL coach...now knows what he has (in our case, not have) and knows what he needs.
RE: RE: RE: It would be funny, after all the bitching  
FStubbs : 12/5/2021 7:50 am : link
In comment 15479248 Mdgiantsfan said:
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about Peart, if they end up having to start him at RT



Especially if he plays well



Yeah especially how emphatic Sale was in saying Nate was better. If he is marektedly better, then the quality of the coaching could come into play.


After Sale's comments he almost can't play Peart.
RE: Shep and Toney are worthless.  
FStubbs : 12/5/2021 7:52 am : link
In comment 15479169 Dave in Hoboken said:
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At this point Toney was a wasted pick. We basically just punted the pick into 2022.
Good  
GiantTuff1 : 12/5/2021 8:40 am : link
Step the F up Peart! Take the job and don’t let it go.
Conspiracy theory  
Harvest Blend : 12/5/2021 9:17 am : link
Sale knew about Solder being unable to go and was trying to shame Peart and light a fire under his ass.

Shitty but its all I got. :)
And the Toney  
Harvest Blend : 12/5/2021 9:17 am : link
thing stinks.
Question on Peart  
ScottinMA : 12/5/2021 11:18 am : link
How unusual at the NFL level for a foreign born person to make it to the NFL? Just a random thought on the Cultural aspect and how it plays out with the speculation on his demeanor. The culture around US football is certainly unique compared to soccer for the example
Absurd coaches are waiting for a game time decision  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/5/2021 11:24 am : link
like he's Anthony Munoz. If he's even slightly hurt sit Solder's ass down, he sucks ass when completely healthy.
RE: Absurd coaches are waiting for a game time decision  
BigBlueShock : 12/5/2021 11:44 am : link
In comment 15480218 Spiciest Memelord said:
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like he's Anthony Munoz. If he's even slightly hurt sit Solder's ass down, he sucks ass when completely healthy.

So a player has to be a Hall of Famer in order to see how they feel in pregame warmups to determine whether they can play? Holy shitballs. Brilliant stuff there.
solder  
Hilary : 12/5/2021 11:48 am : link
He is active
RE: Absurd coaches are waiting for a game time decision  
Jimmy Googs : 12/5/2021 11:51 am : link
In comment 15480218 Spiciest Memelord said:
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like he's Anthony Munoz. If he's even slightly hurt sit Solder's ass down, he sucks ass when completely healthy.


So now we have both Anthony Munoz AND Jonathan Ogden look-a-likes playing Right Tackle for the Giants...
 
christian : 12/5/2021 11:54 am : link
I know there a lot of fans who think Sale is some kind of revelation— but I think he kind of sucks.
It's not  
PaulN : 12/5/2021 12:04 pm : link
Bullshit, they are trying everything to get Peart on the field, he is a marshmallow.
The first post  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/5/2021 12:11 pm : link
Dave in Hoboken makes that isn’t cunty will be the first.

Worthless poster
They  
AcidTest : 12/5/2021 12:43 pm : link
just don't want to play Peart unless it's absolutely necessary. Even a game time decision about Solder is preferable to Peart.
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