Same problems that were evident Week 1-sloppiness, soft defense to end half, no offense, no clue what he is doing on TOs, lack of balls in terms of going for it on 4th down-are evident December 5th. No improvement whatsoever from JJ.
I can accept lots of growing pains with a new HC. It is about acknowledging, making the corrections and progressing.
This lack of killer instinct is tough for me to continue patience. I was livid at the end of the WFT and mentioned it than with the passive coaching.
It just keeps continuing. Unfortunately it is just who he is. I would hate playing for that type of coach and wonder what the players true feelings are.
is they think they can coach the same way as Bill without the personnel. Belichik forces the other team to make mistakes on the field or in decisions. Judge doesn't have the personnel to play conservative, but coaches as if he does - clearly should've went for it on 4th and 2.
as others said, he doesn't. Roster may suck, but he has a say in that and he's made a lot of bad decisions. I haven't seen a single reason he should stay
Let him go back to Belichick or join the staff at Mississippi state.
I was buying way too long what he way selling.
You aren't the only one he got. I certainly bought what he was selling.
I'm usually pretty good at seeing through the fluff. But because I think I have been so beaten down by Gettleman's idiocy, I just gravitated towards someone/something sounding competent/professional...
is similar to evaluating Jones. The roster sucks, they are not in good situations. However, there should be some evidence that they are elevating those around them. Neither show any sign of that.
Let him go back to Belichick or join the staff at Mississippi state.
I was buying way too long what he way selling.
You aren't the only one he got. I certainly bought what he was selling.
I'm usually pretty good at seeing through the fluff. But because I think I have been so beaten down by Gettleman's idiocy, I just gravitated towards someone/something sounding competent/professional...
The thirsty say muddied water tastes good.
It isn't a lack of talent (and there is) but he just can't coach those
players on the field. He's clueless. All the talent in the world isn't going to make him a better coach. I've been on the JJ bandwagon for a long time. I'm good with firing his a$$ at the end of the year.
for the massive injury situation at WR, and OL. But... he just doesn't seem to have what it takes.
The team hasn't quit, but it isn't exactly playing inspired football.
A lot depends on his role behind the scene. It was widely speculated that he had a loud voice in draft/player acquisition. IF true, he's part of the problem in the team that has been assembled.
All in all, go with a clean slate. New GM, new coaching staff.
That feel like Judge doesn’t deserve another year doesn’t really understand football.. he has been held back by a barbaric offensive system that was forced on him by management and a gm who will have one of the worst quality of personnel I’ve ever seen.
People will have the audacity to say what about these last two weeks as if it’s still not Garrett’s Fred Flinstone of a playbook. If you wanna see what Judge is made of give him 2 seasons where he has a competent GM and allow him to put his desired offense in place. If it pisses you off to think of having to give Judge more years then blame the Mara’s for their continued ineptitude.
probably two top ten picks and a good amount of picks overall in the first 100. You have to be totally on board. You wait a year too long the cycle continues. On top of that they need to address the QB. How confident is everyone with Judge selecting/breaking in a new QB?
RE: It should be a lesson on not judging a coach by
How he speaks in front of a microphone or even what he says. He said all the right things in the right way. The media bought into him too.
Guilty.
Can't wait to hear Judge's presser where we are: "...going back to work...."; "...need to see the film before I comment..."; "...going to make this work and make the fans proud..."
probably two top ten picks and a good amount of picks overall in the first 100. You have to be totally on board. You wait a year too long the cycle continues. On top of that they need to address the QB. How confident is everyone with Judge selecting/breaking in a new QB?
Look, Gettleman and Judge need to be out. But, given that we will have two first round picks we really need to have a front office that is functional. We hire one in January, they go get a head coach and by May we are drafting. Doesn't seem like a lot of time to get a huge turnarounds, but whatever.
How he speaks in front of a microphone or even what he says. He said all the right things in the right way. The media bought into him too.
Guilty.
Can't wait to hear Judge's presser where we are: "...going back to work...."; "...need to see the film before I comment..."; "...going to make this work and make the fans proud..."
That feel like Judge doesn’t deserve another year doesn’t really understand football.. he has been held back by a barbaric offensive system that was forced on him by management and a gm who will have one of the worst quality of personnel I’ve ever seen.
People will have the audacity to say what about these last two weeks as if it’s still not Garrett’s Fred Flinstone of a playbook. If you wanna see what Judge is made of give him 2 seasons where he has a competent GM and allow him to put his desired offense in place. If it pisses you off to think of having to give Judge more years then blame the Mara’s for their continued ineptitude.
It's that there is no way the Giants will fire their 3rd coach in 6 years. That more than anything else will be why he's here next season. They will bring in a new GM and everyone will be on notice this next season
It's that there is no way the Giants will fire their 3rd coach in 6 years. That more than anything else will be why he's here next season. They will bring in a new GM and everyone will be on notice this next season
I don't love Judge. But, to me, the ONLY reason he should be the3 HC next year is if the next GM truly believes he should be. Not because Mara doesn't want to fire another HC. Because that just waters down the GM search right out of the gate.
It's that there is no way the Giants will fire their 3rd coach in 6 years. That more than anything else will be why he's here next season. They will bring in a new GM and everyone will be on notice this next season
It's that there is no way the Giants will fire their 3rd coach in 6 years. That more than anything else will be why he's here next season. They will bring in a new GM and everyone will be on notice this next season
This is not how successful organizations operate. The new GM should be able to make whatever decision he pleases.
RE: It should be a lesson on not judging a coach by
It's that there is no way the Giants will fire their 3rd coach in 6 years. That more than anything else will be why he's here next season. They will bring in a new GM and everyone will be on notice this next season
This is not how successful organizations operate. The new GM should be able to make whatever decision he pleases.
Unfortunately the real decision makers (John Mara, Chris Mara) aren't going anywhere.
I was all in on him up until very recently but he has fully lost me. Can't ever see him being a good NFL coach.
I was buying way too long what he way selling.
I was buying way too long what he way selling.
You aren't the only one he got. I certainly bought what he was selling.
This lack of killer instinct is tough for me to continue patience. I was livid at the end of the WFT and mentioned it than with the passive coaching.
It just keeps continuing. Unfortunately it is just who he is. I would hate playing for that type of coach and wonder what the players true feelings are.
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Let him go back to Belichick or join the staff at Mississippi state.
I was buying way too long what he way selling.
You aren't the only one he got. I certainly bought what he was selling.
I'm usually pretty good at seeing through the fluff. But because I think I have been so beaten down by Gettleman's idiocy, I just gravitated towards someone/something sounding competent/professional...
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Let him go back to Belichick or join the staff at Mississippi state.
I was buying way too long what he way selling.
You aren't the only one he got. I certainly bought what he was selling.
I'm usually pretty good at seeing through the fluff. But because I think I have been so beaten down by Gettleman's idiocy, I just gravitated towards someone/something sounding competent/professional...
The thirsty say muddied water tastes good.
This guy blew away the maras in interviews. Between that and Belichick's rec, that's what got him the job.
All he has done is hire his friends and lose.
The team hasn't quit, but it isn't exactly playing inspired football.
A lot depends on his role behind the scene. It was widely speculated that he had a loud voice in draft/player acquisition. IF true, he's part of the problem in the team that has been assembled.
All in all, go with a clean slate. New GM, new coaching staff.
He can talk the talk, but he can't actually coach a football team.
People will have the audacity to say what about these last two weeks as if it’s still not Garrett’s Fred Flinstone of a playbook. If you wanna see what Judge is made of give him 2 seasons where he has a competent GM and allow him to put his desired offense in place. If it pisses you off to think of having to give Judge more years then blame the Mara’s for their continued ineptitude.
Guilty.
Can't wait to hear Judge's presser where we are: "...going back to work...."; "...need to see the film before I comment..."; "...going to make this work and make the fans proud..."
You get the picture.
He has no clue how to manage a game almost 2 yeats into it.
Look, Gettleman and Judge need to be out. But, given that we will have two first round picks we really need to have a front office that is functional. We hire one in January, they go get a head coach and by May we are drafting. Doesn't seem like a lot of time to get a huge turnarounds, but whatever.
Gettleman should have been fired after the 2019 season. He didn't deserve a 3rd year never mind a 4th
This guy blew away the maras in interviews. Between that and Belichick's rec, that's what got him the job.
All he has done is hire his friends and lose.
What you said here highlights how I likely have no idea what I'm looking at when evaluating.
This.
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How he speaks in front of a microphone or even what he says. He said all the right things in the right way. The media bought into him too.
Guilty.
Can't wait to hear Judge's presser where we are: "...going back to work...."; "...need to see the film before I comment..."; "...going to make this work and make the fans proud..."
You get the picture.
He is encouraged! Players making “big plays” lol
People will have the audacity to say what about these last two weeks as if it’s still not Garrett’s Fred Flinstone of a playbook. If you wanna see what Judge is made of give him 2 seasons where he has a competent GM and allow him to put his desired offense in place. If it pisses you off to think of having to give Judge more years then blame the Mara’s for their continued ineptitude.
You are either Judge or a moron.
Agreed.
This is not how successful organizations operate. The new GM should be able to make whatever decision he pleases.
This guy blew away the maras in interviews. Between that and Belichick's rec, that's what got him the job.
All he has done is hire his friends and lose.
The telling thing is, who else was in on Judge? The Maras were the only people blown away by this guy.
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It's that there is no way the Giants will fire their 3rd coach in 6 years. That more than anything else will be why he's here next season. They will bring in a new GM and everyone will be on notice this next season
This is not how successful organizations operate. The new GM should be able to make whatever decision he pleases.
Unfortunately the real decision makers (John Mara, Chris Mara) aren't going anywhere.