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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/5/2021 4:00 pm
"It can't get worse."

Response: "It can always get worse."
Wait til next week when our “should be franchise QB”  
The_Boss : 12/5/2021 4:01 pm : link
Lights us up in LA…
......  
Route 9 : 12/5/2021 4:01 pm : link
Trash
LoL...  
EricJ : 12/5/2021 4:02 pm : link
this is going to create big changes. Lets just hope Mara is not making any of the decisions.
Good draft pick day  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 4:02 pm : link
.
Two bad football teams.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2021 4:02 pm : link
The Giants are worse.

The end.
Disaster  
Anakim : 12/5/2021 4:03 pm : link
This team is a disaster from top to bottom. We're no better now than where we were 7 years ago. Fire Judge and the coaching staff at the end of the season and fire Gettleman tonight. Abrams can be the interim until we hire a real GM in a couple of months.


Congrats, Gettleman. You actually made Jerry Reese look competent.
Can we start  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/5/2021 4:03 pm : link
Fromm and Peart yet?
1 of 4 teams  
Simms : 12/5/2021 4:03 pm : link
to NOT score 30 points this season....

when the O can't get a play in on time  
jerseyboyLAX : 12/5/2021 4:03 pm : link
and when the O has no up-tempo urgency, THAT'S on coaching

freaking embarassment of an offense today....
3 TDs in 4 games!  
Simms11 : 12/5/2021 4:03 pm : link
LOL.......schedule that looked easier, has become a total disaster. No Jones, I don’t see another win in last 5 games.

4-13 here we come and most likely a top 5 pick.
Bad to worse  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:04 pm : link
It's time to bring in a new GM and let them pick a new coach. Tired of the mistakes, the poor personnel decisions, the embarrassing timeouts for no legit reason. I'd like to kick a trashcan in Mara's general direction. Fuck em all.
RE: 1 of 4 teams  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15481746 Simms said:
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to NOT score 30 points this season....


Only scored that much once last season I believe.
The Glennon is as good as Daniel Jones crowd  
JoeFootball : 12/5/2021 4:04 pm : link
Needs to take the week off. Jim Denton is the only happy person associated with the Giants.
RE: 3 TDs in 4 games!  
Anakim : 12/5/2021 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15481754 Simms11 said:
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LOL.......schedule that looked easier, has become a total disaster. No Jones, I don’t see another win in last 5 games.

4-13 here we come and most likely a top 5 pick.


Hopefully two top-5 picks. Two nice building blocks for another rebuild.
There were people on this website suggesting the Giants  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:05 pm : link
Could go on a run and win 6 of their last games.
This team is pure garbage  
NY-Fan : 12/5/2021 4:05 pm : link
They seriously do not even feel like they belong in the NFL. It feels like an exhibition game between the NFL and another football league when I watch them play.
O-line Sucks.  
youngd1974 : 12/5/2021 4:05 pm : link
Why in the world Hernandez and Solder are still Starting? Only our clueless coaching staff Knows. Defense played solid but unspectacular.
.  
Go Terps : 12/5/2021 4:07 pm : link
There's no baby to throw out with the bathwater. There is only bathwater.
Clean house  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 4:08 pm : link
Top to bottom
Sale  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:08 pm : link
can talk shot about Peart all he wants, but it cannot be worse than Solder. My grandmother blocks better than Hernandez. Gettleman should be locked out of the building.
RE: RE: 3 TDs in 4 games!  
HomerJones45 : 12/5/2021 4:08 pm : link
In comment 15481765 Anakim said:
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In comment 15481754 Simms11 said:


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LOL.......schedule that looked easier, has become a total disaster. No Jones, I don’t see another win in last 5 games.

4-13 here we come and most likely a top 5 pick.



Hopefully two top-5 picks. Two nice building blocks for another rebuild.
not if Moe, Larry and Curly are doing the drafting.
All of folks who think a new GM willl make a difference  
bluesince56 : 12/5/2021 4:08 pm : link
Watch Mara hire Abrams in house. Nothing will change.
I'm on board the tank train  
GFAN52 : 12/5/2021 4:08 pm : link
to get a higher pick and just pray that Gettleman isn't around to make the selection.
RE: O-line Sucks.  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2021 4:09 pm : link
In comment 15481777 youngd1974 said:
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Why in the world Hernandez and Solder are still Starting? Only our clueless coaching staff Knows. Defense played solid but unspectacular.


Who are the more talented guys sitting on the bench that should be playing?

The trash out there playing is the best we have.
Oline is utter disaster  
UberAlias : 12/5/2021 4:09 pm : link
Can’t block for run or pass and not even close. Aside from that Glennon missed on too many throws that were there to be made. That’s story of game. The outrage is odd to me. This is surprising at all, exactly what was expected.
RE: Bad to worse  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 12/5/2021 4:09 pm : link
In comment 15481760 Maggot Brain said:
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It's time to bring in a new GM and let them pick a new coach. Tired of the mistakes, the poor personnel decisions, the embarrassing timeouts for no legit reason. I'd like to kick a trashcan in Mara's general direction. Fuck em all.


Same.

And to those who wanted to see what Glennon could do … hope you’re satisfied.

This offense is broken.
This is some dark days  
larryflower37 : 12/5/2021 4:09 pm : link
I can't remember a time when there was zero positives to watch for. I mean in past dark points there was a player or 2 you wanted to see play.
This season can't end quick enough.
RE: All of folks who think a new GM willl make a difference  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/5/2021 4:09 pm : link
In comment 15481795 bluesince56 said:
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Watch Mara hire Abrams in house. Nothing will change.


I think each loss makes it harder for Mara to follow through on his attention. Expect some harsh criticism in the media this week with Judge.
That  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:10 pm : link
is on Gettleman. Call an Uber for his ass to the airport.
RE: There were people on this website suggesting the Giants  
Thegratefulhead : 12/5/2021 4:10 pm : link
In comment 15481775 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Could go on a run and win 6 of their last games.
lol. It's true. Playoffs....lol
RE: RE: All of folks who think a new GM willl make a difference  
GFAN52 : 12/5/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15481809 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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In comment 15481795 bluesince56 said:


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Watch Mara hire Abrams in house. Nothing will change.



I think each loss makes it harder for Mara to follow through on his attention. Expect some harsh criticism in the media this week with Judge.


New GM and Coach needed without ANY previous ties to the Giants.
RE: RE: All of folks who think a new GM willl make a difference  
UberAlias : 12/5/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15481809 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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In comment 15481795 bluesince56 said:


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Watch Mara hire Abrams in house. Nothing will change.



I think each loss makes it harder for Mara to follow through on his attention. Expect some harsh criticism in the media this week with Judge.
It’s we’ll beyond that. As bad as this season has been, getting a new GM from the outside is pretty much guaranteed.
Hutchinson and Neal  
WillVAB : 12/5/2021 4:11 pm : link
Would be great building blocks if the Giants and Bears keep losing. The foundation of this roster needs to be rebuilt.
RE: .  
Dennis : 12/5/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15481786 Go Terps said:
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There's no baby to throw out with the bathwater. There is only bathwater.


+1. LOL.
Really deep problems in the org  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/5/2021 4:12 pm : link
if they were debating whether to start a gimpy Solder or not.
Ticket Upgrade  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:12 pm : link
The Giants had the nerve to try to sell me this week on ticket upgrades. The only way to watch this team is from far away in the upper deck.
Lions win  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 4:12 pm : link
On last play
Lions just won at last second  
bluesince56 : 12/5/2021 4:13 pm : link
They scored 29 points. Wow!
The  
AcidTest : 12/5/2021 4:13 pm : link
Dolphins are terrible, but we are horrific. That was absolutely disgraceful, comical, and beyond bad. We have now scored one TD in eight quarters.

Glennon was awful. He didn't see the field, missed throws, threw repeatedly into double coverage, and held the ball much too long on several sacks. The QB of the Giants is very likely not even on the team.

The OL was bad. The pass blocking was OK in the first half but deteriorated rapidly in the second half. There was no run blocking. Solder and Hernandez were poor and beaten often. We still can't handle a stunt.

Barkley had one run, got run over in pass protection, and had at least two drops.

Engram got turned around on one play.

Very little pressure on Tua and let him dink and dunk his way down the field the entire game.

More terrible clock management and bad use of TOs.
John Mara and Mike Zimmer  
St. Jimmy : 12/5/2021 4:13 pm : link
as the next Giants coach should be trending right about now.
RE: Hutchinson and Neal  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/5/2021 4:13 pm : link
In comment 15481821 WillVAB said:
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Would be great building blocks if the Giants and Bears keep losing. The foundation of this roster needs to be rebuilt.


Firmly pushed us into double blue chip territory.

Mineshew as our "vet" QB next year  
LG in NYC : 12/5/2021 4:15 pm : link
as we build out the rest if the team?

There is not a single individual on this team (player or coach) who I would waste a breath trying to defend.

losing is one thing... being boring, pathetic and having a pu$$y HC is an entirely different thing altogether.
With apologies to Saints fans of yesteryear  
dlauster : 12/5/2021 4:15 pm : link
At what point do we start wearing paper bags on our heads?
Another  
PaulN : 12/5/2021 4:15 pm : link
Football Season ruined, another season of purchasing the Sunday wasted on the piece of shit franchise. Ticket
RE: .  
jvm52106 : 12/5/2021 4:15 pm : link
In comment 15481786 Go Terps said:
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There's no baby to throw out with the bathwater. There is only bathwater.


I wouldn't say bath water but maybe another bathroom source.
RE: when the O can't get a play in on time  
Blue21 : 12/5/2021 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15481748 jerseyboyLAX said:
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and when the O has no up-tempo urgency, THAT'S on coaching

freaking embarassment of an offense today....


This
If  
AcidTest : 12/5/2021 4:16 pm : link
only because of our bad cap situation we are much worse now than we were when DG was hired. We are the worst or next to worst team (the Jets might be the worst) since 2017. I agree he should be fired. I'd also fire Judge. I can't tolerate a head coach who every week botches TOs. The new GM should have total freedom to decide who he wants to keep.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 4:17 pm : link
This organization is an embarrassment in all aspects. An embarrassment. Just blow the whole thing up.
Remember when we said it can't get any worse?  
Blue21 : 12/5/2021 4:18 pm : link
.
I guess  
PaulN : 12/5/2021 4:19 pm : link
Jason Garrett wasn't the problem after all, and Joe Judge threw him under the bus. That tells you something about his character.
Only five games left.  
bceagle05 : 12/5/2021 4:20 pm : link
Hope everyone enjoys the holiday season with friends and family, and this will all be over.
Didn't think the Giants would have much chance to win today  
US1 Giants : 12/5/2021 4:20 pm : link
Time to look for the draft seeding. Want a new GM and ready to let Judge go if that is what the new GM wants. Gotta believe Judge will be gone.

Would like to see Fromm play next week.
RE: Mineshew as our  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 12/5/2021 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15481851 LG in NYC said:
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as we build out the rest if the team?

There is not a single individual on this team (player or coach) who I would waste a breath trying to defend.

losing is one thing... being boring, pathetic and having a pu$$y HC is an entirely different thing altogether.



If Philadelphia FO has any brains, they’ll re-sign him. Meanwhile our FO is still sold on Lloyd Christmas as our qb.
RE: I guess  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15481904 PaulN said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't the problem after all, and Joe Judge threw him under the bus. That tells you something about his character.


This is still Garrett's offense. He just isn't calling the plays. This offense needs a new vision. Which means new coaching. New players would also help too.
Raanan  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:21 pm : link
A 20-9 loss to Miami. With only 250 yards of total offense.

The Giants are now 4-8. Even the biggest dreamers can't sell the hope of the playoffs.

It's time to start thinking about next year.
3 touchdowns in the last 4 games  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/5/2021 4:23 pm : link
You have to try and suck that much.

Just pathetic all around
Unfortunately, whatever GM comes in  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2021 4:23 pm : link
will still have Chris Mara fooling around in scouting, and John Mara “suggesting” who he’d like to have on the coaching staff and as draft picks.

I know everyone prefers the up and coming coach and GM, but I feel like there is a better chance that “retreads” will not be exposed to as much Mara meddling which makes them immediately better choices.

We can fire many of the problems with this team, but we can’t fire root of the problems which are all named Mara.
Schneier  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:23 pm : link
The #Giants have three offensive touchdowns in their last four games. I’ve never seen a more incompetent offense in my life. And a part of that is the constant playing for field position. The red zone inefficiencies are tops. This might be the worst passing game in the NFL.
Three FGs today...did  
rebel yell : 12/5/2021 4:25 pm : link
we ever light it up! This team is a disgrace. I envision a few more injury defections in the coming week. Should be a real beauty against the Chargers next week.
With Jones neck injury  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 4:26 pm : link
that pushes up the timetable to possibly draft a QB in round 2, assuming there's a worthy Qb available. Bring in a veteran stopgap if possible, and if neither pan out, we'll probably be in a position to draft one of the top QBs in 2023.

Yes, that's how bad it is
That MOFO Judge  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:28 pm : link
just said he saw a lot of good things out there today. He's clueless. Don't let him back on the plane.
George Custer......  
thrunthrublue : 12/5/2021 4:28 pm : link
A better leader than JJ. Should be a class action lawsuit for incompetence (nyg fans v Maras) if DG and JJ and the terrible scouts are around before the '22 draft begins......
Hey Mara  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:29 pm : link
Wake the fuck up.
Judge actually talking like there were positives today  
RDJR : 12/5/2021 4:30 pm : link
in the postgame presser.
Judge is encouraged  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:31 pm : link
by his special teams. He's out of his freakin mind.
Listening to the Joe  
Shady Lurker : 12/5/2021 4:32 pm : link
Judge press conference. I am just so over this guy. Listening to him talk you'd think that the team was competitive.
RE: .  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/5/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15481786 Go Terps said:
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There's no baby to throw out with the bathwater. There is only bathwater.


The only thing in this bathroom is a toilet full of a diarrhea
Can we’re put to  
g56blue10 : 12/5/2021 4:33 pm : link
Rest at least that Glennon is as good as Jones.. this offense won’t function till we can block
Judge Presser  
Bubblerjuke : 12/5/2021 4:34 pm : link
Can't believe what I'm hearing from the head coach. This guy is delusional.
RE: Mineshew as our  
Debaser : 12/5/2021 4:34 pm : link
In comment 15481851 LG in NYC said:
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as we build out the rest if the team?

There is not a single individual on this team (player or coach) who I would waste a breath trying to defend.

losing is one thing... being boring, pathetic and having a pu$$y HC is an entirely different thing altogether.


The time for minshew was when he was third stringer not even active on a roster . They trade Flacco and now minshew is th backup playing better then the starter
Judge  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:35 pm : link
is so far removed from reality. He needs to call this offense out. He needs to call Barclay out. He needs to call Glennon out. He needs to call the punter out. A good coach would not roll this bullshit out to the press.
when Mara  
BigBlueCane : 12/5/2021 4:36 pm : link
changed the power structure that existed under Young to what it is today, he diluted both the credit for when things go well and the blame for when things are this bad.

That's your inflection point.

Restore the old school power structure. No more committees and consensus, etc...

at the very least, you'll get real accountability back in the building.
RE: Listening to the Joe  
Simms11 : 12/5/2021 4:36 pm : link
In comment 15481998 Shady Lurker said:
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Judge press conference. I am just so over this guy. Listening to him talk you'd think that the team was competitive.


Pleased with effort....oline getting better, etc, etc 😀 totally unbelievable...

Yea, I know, what else is supposed to say?
Joe - you're 4 and 8  
jerseyboyLAX : 12/5/2021 4:36 pm : link
THERE'S NO TIME LEFT TO MAKE CORRECTIONS. GEEZUS.
Judge  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:37 pm : link
just said he's encouraged in all three phases. How can you roll out this nonsense to Giant fans and the press. Not an NFL head coach.
RE: Hutchinson and Neal  
Simms11 : 12/5/2021 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15481821 WillVAB said:
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Would be great building blocks if the Giants and Bears keep losing. The foundation of this roster needs to be rebuilt.


Would be a Dream, but Detroit and Jax will most likely bear us to the punch on one of them
RE: Judge  
GiantGrit : 12/5/2021 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15482019 Maggot Brain said:
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is so far removed from reality. He needs to call this offense out. He needs to call Barclay out. He needs to call Glennon out. He needs to call the punter out. A good coach would not roll this bullshit out to the press.


With today's athletes that is a great way to have them quit on you instantly. That does nothing for players these days.

I'm with moving on from Judge but I see no benefit to handling a press conference that way.
LMAO  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:39 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."
RE: LMAO  
HewlettGiant : 12/5/2021 4:40 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."


This is the definition of being pissed on and being told it's raining
RE: RE: Hutchinson and Neal  
The_Boss : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15482040 Simms11 said:
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In comment 15481821 WillVAB said:


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Would be great building blocks if the Giants and Bears keep losing. The foundation of this roster needs to be rebuilt.



Would be a Dream, but Detroit and Jax will most likely bear us to the punch on one of them


It’s looking like a 5 blue chippers sort of draft..and the NYG will draft 6…take it to the bank.
RE: I guess  
EricJ : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15481904 PaulN said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't the problem after all...


so you think they designed a whole new offense after Garrett was fired? They are still running Garrett's offense. He was PART of the problem and had to go. Amazed that you cannot wrap your mind around that.
I get that he has to say something like that, but the whole culture  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
around football coaches is laugh out loud funny.
RE: LMAO  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."


JFC - he needs to be fired tonight.

Mississippi State dodged a bullet with this clown...
RE: LMAO  
pjcas18 : 12/5/2021 4:45 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."


I think someone else should maybe be evaluated for a concussion besides Glennon.
RE: Lions win  
Carson53 : 12/5/2021 4:47 pm : link
In comment 15481832 jeff57 said:
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On last play
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Yipee-kayee. About time.
RE: LMAO  
Carson53 : 12/5/2021 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."
.

Get the boots out with commentary like that folks!
A ridiculous quote  
Matt M. : 12/5/2021 4:49 pm : link
Why lie at this point. I think straight shooting that they suck might be more impactful to a lockeroom full of guys used to losing.
Eric do you  
BigBlueJ : 12/5/2021 4:49 pm : link
think going forward you can also keep the tweet frame up in the post game, a lot of nuggets come out after the game as well.
I will say  
GiantTuff1 : 12/5/2021 4:50 pm : link
I liked what they TRIED to do on offense.

You can see they were trying to create situations to get Barkley and Golloday touches, and worked Barkley inside, outside, in space. Nothing was working. Why? A combination of a horrid line, a mediocre QB, and the Giants top players (Barkley and Golloday) not being real game changers is killing anything before it has a chance to succeed.

I think more than anything it is a major indictment of this roster. They are trying to scheme things on offense now, and it is clear their horses only have 3 legs and may need to be brought behind the barn.
RE: George Custer......  
FStubbs : 12/5/2021 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15481965 thrunthrublue said:
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A better leader than JJ. Should be a class action lawsuit for incompetence (nyg fans v Maras) if DG and JJ and the terrible scouts are around before the '22 draft begins......


George Custer was actually clutch at the end of the civil war, blocking Lee's retreat from Richmond and forcing him into Appomattox where he was forced to wave the white flag on the war.
RE: I will say  
FStubbs : 12/5/2021 4:55 pm : link
In comment 15482123 GiantTuff1 said:
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I liked what they TRIED to do on offense.

You can see they were trying to create situations to get Barkley and Golloday touches, and worked Barkley inside, outside, in space. Nothing was working. Why? A combination of a horrid line, a mediocre QB, and the Giants top players (Barkley and Golloday) not being real game changers is killing anything before it has a chance to succeed.

I think more than anything it is a major indictment of this roster. They are trying to scheme things on offense now, and it is clear their horses only have 3 legs and may need to be brought behind the barn.


I agree with this. Barkley can't get it done and Golladay seems like the next Barrett Green.
Until the fix the OL it really doesn't matter who the QB is,  
PatersonPlank : 12/5/2021 4:55 pm : link
who runs the ball, or who the WR's are. No one will look any good
“I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 4:57 pm : link
Too bad it was the other team
RE: LMAO  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 4:59 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."


That is a parody account right?
Unless it's Belichick himself...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 5:01 pm : link
his coaching tree is an unmitigated disaster. And it should be chopped down and used for firewood.
A lot of  
Ron Johnson : 12/5/2021 5:01 pm : link
People here are going to be very disappointed.

Judge and Jones are not going anywhere
RE: A lot of  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2021 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15482186 Ron Johnson said:
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People here are going to be very disappointed.

Judge and Jones are not going anywhere


I think most of us expect them to be back. This team has been making the wrong decisions consistently for a decade. No reason to think Mara is suddenly going to start running this organization well.
RE: RE: RE: Hutchinson and Neal  
Regular Coffee : 12/5/2021 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15482058 The_Boss said:
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In comment 15482040 Simms11 said:


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In comment 15481821 WillVAB said:


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Would be great building blocks if the Giants and Bears keep losing. The foundation of this roster needs to be rebuilt.



Would be a Dream, but Detroit and Jax will most likely bear us to the punch on one of them



It’s looking like a 5 blue chippers sort of draft..and the NYG will draft 6…take it to the bank.


Maybe we could re-draft Cyclops
RE: Until the fix the OL it really doesn't matter who the QB is,  
Debaser : 12/5/2021 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15482149 PatersonPlank said:
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who runs the ball, or who the WR's are. No one will look any good


What point are you ultimately trying to make ? That jones could be good and we should keep him till the oline is improved?

That is total stupidity. For a second Glennon looked like he could be the better QB. On what planet does a back up ever look better than the starter?

I saw Glennon miss some easy throws but at the same time some throws to golladay looked like a pro QB that jones cannot do. I also saw a team horribly coached like never that bad at this level. Also why did they waste practice on jones? They know damn well what is wrong with him and how much time he is going to miss yet they waste practice on him. This team looked totally lost on offense with no one knowing where to even lineup .
I think Golladay  
Carson53 : 12/5/2021 5:06 pm : link
must be made of glass, gets hit a few times, he needs to come out of the game. Good investment there...
Francesa  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 5:06 pm : link
Giants lose 20-9, can't find the end zone and Joe Judge is "pleased". At the podium he looks and sounds like a babbling fool.
I know it sucks to lose  
CV36 : 12/5/2021 5:07 pm : link
but we are bad. We have pulled out a few wins but we are not good. This team was never going to the playoffs. Most of us had them as a 5-6 win team. What I would like to see is them playing people you think can develop. Sit Barkley, I’m tired of his agressive running style and him moving the pile. See if Fromm is a solid backup. Get Peart more time. Play Wilson. Get them some reps this season.
The Pope weighs  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 5:11 pm : link
Giants lose 20-9, can't find the end zone and Joe Judge is "pleased". At the podium he looks and sounds like a babbling fool.


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RE: RE: Until the fix the OL it really doesn't matter who the QB is,  
PatersonPlank : 12/5/2021 5:17 pm : link
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who runs the ball, or who the WR's are. No one will look any good



What point are you ultimately trying to make ? That jones could be good and we should keep him till the oline is improved?

That is total stupidity. For a second Glennon looked like he could be the better QB. On what planet does a back up ever look better than the starter?

I saw Glennon miss some easy throws but at the same time some throws to golladay looked like a pro QB that jones cannot do. I also saw a team horribly coached like never that bad at this level. Also why did they waste practice on jones? They know damn well what is wrong with him and how much time he is going to miss yet they waste practice on him. This team looked totally lost on offense with no one knowing where to even lineup .


I didn't mention Jones, you have Jones Derangement Syndrome. You bring him up on every thread, every day.

My point is, and I hesitate even engaging with you because I know you will blow up and make it personal, is that lots of posters saying we need this guy and need that guy. However its not going to matter until we fix the OL. No one will help.

Oh, and Glennon sucks. The fact that you think he looked good tells me all anyone here needs to know. He was horrible, he really shouldn't even be on a roster.
This organization is like Jonestown  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/5/2021 5:18 pm : link
in what universe do you deliberate whether to start a gimpy Solder or not? He's a "name" to the Giants, like how bbi'ers get caught up with "names" that are no longer what they used to be like OBJ or Russell Wilson.
RE: RE: Hutchinson and Neal  
k2tampa : 12/5/2021 5:24 pm : link
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Would be great building blocks if the Giants and Bears keep losing. The foundation of this roster needs to be rebuilt.



Would be a Dream, but Detroit and Jax will most likely bear us to the punch on one of them


Both of them will be gone.
RE: RE: LMAO  
Dennis : 12/5/2021 5:31 pm : link
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."



This is the definition of being pissed on and being told it's raining


LOL.
RE: LMAO  
PatersonPlank : 12/5/2021 5:37 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."


This sounds to me like a coach desperately afraid of losing his players. He's afraid to criticize anything or anyone publicly.
RE: RE: RE: Until the fix the OL it really doesn't matter who the QB is,  
Debaser : 12/5/2021 5:37 pm : link
In comment 15482275 PatersonPlank said:
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who runs the ball, or who the WR's are. No one will look any good



What point are you ultimately trying to make ? That jones could be good and we should keep him till the oline is improved?

That is total stupidity. For a second Glennon looked like he could be the better QB. On what planet does a back up ever look better than the starter?

I saw Glennon miss some easy throws but at the same time some throws to golladay looked like a pro QB that jones cannot do. I also saw a team horribly coached like never that bad at this level. Also why did they waste practice on jones? They know damn well what is wrong with him and how much time he is going to miss yet they waste practice on him. This team looked totally lost on offense with no one knowing where to even lineup .



I didn't mention Jones, you have Jones Derangement Syndrome. You bring him up on every thread, every day.

My point is, and I hesitate even engaging with you because I know you will blow up and make it personal, is that lots of posters saying we need this guy and need that guy. However its not going to matter until we fix the OL. No one will help.

Oh, and Glennon sucks. The fact that you think he looked good tells me all anyone here needs to know. He was horrible, he really shouldn't even be on a roster.


You’re full of shit. Who are there mythological posters and who are they clamoring for? I don’t think anyone disagrees that the oline sucks and needs a complete overhaul. I think all the arguments about bringing anyone in assumes there will be changes to the oline. And that Barkley will still suck and jones will still suck behind that oline maybe not as bad but Still not good enough.

Further when did I say Glennon was good? He stunk it up especially in the second half. He played pretty good in the first qtr. they should have gone for it on all the 4th and shorts do it could have been a different game. This team also looks worse without Garrett
RE: The Pope weighs  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15482245 jeff57 said:
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Giants lose 20-9, can't find the end zone and Joe Judge is "pleased". At the podium he looks and sounds like a babbling fool.
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He isn't wrong.
RE: RE: LMAO  
FStubbs : 12/5/2021 6:14 pm : link
In comment 15482341 PatersonPlank said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."



This sounds to me like a coach desperately afraid of losing his players. He's afraid to criticize anything or anyone publicly.


Assuming he did lose these players - would the result really look any different?
RE: RE: RE: LMAO  
PatersonPlank : 12/5/2021 6:19 pm : link
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."



This sounds to me like a coach desperately afraid of losing his players. He's afraid to criticize anything or anyone publicly.



Assuming he did lose these players - would the result really look any different?


Probably not, but I think losing the locker room would be the one thing that gets him fired and he knows it
RE: RE: RE: RE: LMAO  
dlauster : 12/5/2021 6:22 pm : link
In comment 15482459 PatersonPlank said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."



This sounds to me like a coach desperately afraid of losing his players. He's afraid to criticize anything or anyone publicly.



Assuming he did lose these players - would the result really look any different?



Probably not, but I think losing the locker room would be the one thing that gets him fired and he knows it


But Christ, the players must know he’s lying right? Big plays?
RE: Judge  
VinegarPeppers : 12/5/2021 6:37 pm : link
Call Barkley out for dropping two passes but don’t even pretend even pretend there are holes to hit behind the worst OL in Giants history.


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is so far removed from reality. He needs to call this offense out. He needs to call Barclay out. He needs to call Glennon out. He needs to call the punter out. A good coach would not roll this bullshit out to the press.
RE: RE: RE: Until the fix the OL it really doesn't matter who the QB is,  
VinegarPeppers : 12/5/2021 6:44 pm : link
The neophyte always blames the skill players. Most of them don’t even know the offensive lineman‘s names. They would trade both first round draft choices to Seattle for Russell Wilson at 34 years old or for Deshaun Watson who may go to jail. Neither one would have success behind the creepiest o-line and giants history .


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who runs the ball, or who the WR's are. No one will look any good



What point are you ultimately trying to make ? That jones could be good and we should keep him till the oline is improved?

That is total stupidity. For a second Glennon looked like he could be the better QB. On what planet does a back up ever look better than the starter?

I saw Glennon miss some easy throws but at the same time some throws to golladay looked like a pro QB that jones cannot do. I also saw a team horribly coached like never that bad at this level. Also why did they waste practice on jones? They know damn well what is wrong with him and how much time he is going to miss yet they waste practice on him. This team looked totally lost on offense with no one knowing where to even lineup .



I didn't mention Jones, you have Jones Derangement Syndrome. You bring him up on every thread, every day.

My point is, and I hesitate even engaging with you because I know you will blow up and make it personal, is that lots of posters saying we need this guy and need that guy. However its not going to matter until we fix the OL. No one will help.

Oh, and Glennon sucks. The fact that you think he looked good tells me all anyone here needs to know. He was horrible, he really shouldn't even be on a roster.
Don’t worry guys  
Dave on the UWS : 12/5/2021 7:39 pm : link
they will use their first pick on someone to help evaluate Jones. They have no clue.
RE: RE: RE: Until the fix the OL it really doesn't matter who the QB is,  
joeinpa : 12/5/2021 8:44 pm : link
In comment 15482275 PatersonPlank said:
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Patterson, you can’t engage this guy, I stopped weeks ago.


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who runs the ball, or who the WR's are. No one will look any good



What point are you ultimately trying to make ? That jones could be good and we should keep him till the oline is improved?

That is total stupidity. For a second Glennon looked like he could be the better QB. On what planet does a back up ever look better than the starter?

I saw Glennon miss some easy throws but at the same time some throws to golladay looked like a pro QB that jones cannot do. I also saw a team horribly coached like never that bad at this level. Also why did they waste practice on jones? They know damn well what is wrong with him and how much time he is going to miss yet they waste practice on him. This team looked totally lost on offense with no one knowing where to even lineup .



I didn't mention Jones, you have Jones Derangement Syndrome. You bring him up on every thread, every day.

My point is, and I hesitate even engaging with you because I know you will blow up and make it personal, is that lots of posters saying we need this guy and need that guy. However its not going to matter until we fix the OL. No one will help.

Oh, and Glennon sucks. The fact that you think he looked good tells me all anyone here needs to know. He was horrible, he really shouldn't even be on a roster.
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