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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/5/2021 4:00 pm
"It can't get worse."

Response: "It can always get worse."
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Only five games left.  
bceagle05 : 12/5/2021 4:20 pm : link
Hope everyone enjoys the holiday season with friends and family, and this will all be over.
Didn't think the Giants would have much chance to win today  
US1 Giants : 12/5/2021 4:20 pm : link
Time to look for the draft seeding. Want a new GM and ready to let Judge go if that is what the new GM wants. Gotta believe Judge will be gone.

Would like to see Fromm play next week.
RE: Mineshew as our  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 12/5/2021 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15481851 LG in NYC said:
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as we build out the rest if the team?

There is not a single individual on this team (player or coach) who I would waste a breath trying to defend.

losing is one thing... being boring, pathetic and having a pu$$y HC is an entirely different thing altogether.



If Philadelphia FO has any brains, they’ll re-sign him. Meanwhile our FO is still sold on Lloyd Christmas as our qb.
RE: I guess  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15481904 PaulN said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't the problem after all, and Joe Judge threw him under the bus. That tells you something about his character.


This is still Garrett's offense. He just isn't calling the plays. This offense needs a new vision. Which means new coaching. New players would also help too.
Raanan  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:21 pm : link
A 20-9 loss to Miami. With only 250 yards of total offense.

The Giants are now 4-8. Even the biggest dreamers can't sell the hope of the playoffs.

It's time to start thinking about next year.
3 touchdowns in the last 4 games  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/5/2021 4:23 pm : link
You have to try and suck that much.

Just pathetic all around
Unfortunately, whatever GM comes in  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2021 4:23 pm : link
will still have Chris Mara fooling around in scouting, and John Mara “suggesting” who he’d like to have on the coaching staff and as draft picks.

I know everyone prefers the up and coming coach and GM, but I feel like there is a better chance that “retreads” will not be exposed to as much Mara meddling which makes them immediately better choices.

We can fire many of the problems with this team, but we can’t fire root of the problems which are all named Mara.
Schneier  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:23 pm : link
The #Giants have three offensive touchdowns in their last four games. I’ve never seen a more incompetent offense in my life. And a part of that is the constant playing for field position. The red zone inefficiencies are tops. This might be the worst passing game in the NFL.
Three FGs today...did  
rebel yell : 12/5/2021 4:25 pm : link
we ever light it up! This team is a disgrace. I envision a few more injury defections in the coming week. Should be a real beauty against the Chargers next week.
With Jones neck injury  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 4:26 pm : link
that pushes up the timetable to possibly draft a QB in round 2, assuming there's a worthy Qb available. Bring in a veteran stopgap if possible, and if neither pan out, we'll probably be in a position to draft one of the top QBs in 2023.

Yes, that's how bad it is
That MOFO Judge  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:28 pm : link
just said he saw a lot of good things out there today. He's clueless. Don't let him back on the plane.
George Custer......  
thrunthrublue : 12/5/2021 4:28 pm : link
A better leader than JJ. Should be a class action lawsuit for incompetence (nyg fans v Maras) if DG and JJ and the terrible scouts are around before the '22 draft begins......
Hey Mara  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:29 pm : link
Wake the fuck up.
Judge actually talking like there were positives today  
RDJR : 12/5/2021 4:30 pm : link
in the postgame presser.
Judge is encouraged  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:31 pm : link
by his special teams. He's out of his freakin mind.
Listening to the Joe  
Shady Lurker : 12/5/2021 4:32 pm : link
Judge press conference. I am just so over this guy. Listening to him talk you'd think that the team was competitive.
RE: .  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/5/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15481786 Go Terps said:
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There's no baby to throw out with the bathwater. There is only bathwater.


The only thing in this bathroom is a toilet full of a diarrhea
Can we’re put to  
g56blue10 : 12/5/2021 4:33 pm : link
Rest at least that Glennon is as good as Jones.. this offense won’t function till we can block
Judge Presser  
Bubblerjuke : 12/5/2021 4:34 pm : link
Can't believe what I'm hearing from the head coach. This guy is delusional.
RE: Mineshew as our  
Debaser : 12/5/2021 4:34 pm : link
In comment 15481851 LG in NYC said:
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as we build out the rest if the team?

There is not a single individual on this team (player or coach) who I would waste a breath trying to defend.

losing is one thing... being boring, pathetic and having a pu$$y HC is an entirely different thing altogether.


The time for minshew was when he was third stringer not even active on a roster . They trade Flacco and now minshew is th backup playing better then the starter
Judge  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:35 pm : link
is so far removed from reality. He needs to call this offense out. He needs to call Barclay out. He needs to call Glennon out. He needs to call the punter out. A good coach would not roll this bullshit out to the press.
when Mara  
BigBlueCane : 12/5/2021 4:36 pm : link
changed the power structure that existed under Young to what it is today, he diluted both the credit for when things go well and the blame for when things are this bad.

That's your inflection point.

Restore the old school power structure. No more committees and consensus, etc...

at the very least, you'll get real accountability back in the building.
RE: Listening to the Joe  
Simms11 : 12/5/2021 4:36 pm : link
In comment 15481998 Shady Lurker said:
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Judge press conference. I am just so over this guy. Listening to him talk you'd think that the team was competitive.


Pleased with effort....oline getting better, etc, etc 😀 totally unbelievable...

Yea, I know, what else is supposed to say?
Joe - you're 4 and 8  
jerseyboyLAX : 12/5/2021 4:36 pm : link
THERE'S NO TIME LEFT TO MAKE CORRECTIONS. GEEZUS.
Judge  
Maggot Brain : 12/5/2021 4:37 pm : link
just said he's encouraged in all three phases. How can you roll out this nonsense to Giant fans and the press. Not an NFL head coach.
RE: Hutchinson and Neal  
Simms11 : 12/5/2021 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15481821 WillVAB said:
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Would be great building blocks if the Giants and Bears keep losing. The foundation of this roster needs to be rebuilt.


Would be a Dream, but Detroit and Jax will most likely bear us to the punch on one of them
RE: Judge  
GiantGrit : 12/5/2021 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15482019 Maggot Brain said:
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is so far removed from reality. He needs to call this offense out. He needs to call Barclay out. He needs to call Glennon out. He needs to call the punter out. A good coach would not roll this bullshit out to the press.


With today's athletes that is a great way to have them quit on you instantly. That does nothing for players these days.

I'm with moving on from Judge but I see no benefit to handling a press conference that way.
LMAO  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:39 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."
RE: LMAO  
HewlettGiant : 12/5/2021 4:40 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."


This is the definition of being pissed on and being told it's raining
RE: RE: Hutchinson and Neal  
The_Boss : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15482040 Simms11 said:
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In comment 15481821 WillVAB said:


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Would be great building blocks if the Giants and Bears keep losing. The foundation of this roster needs to be rebuilt.



Would be a Dream, but Detroit and Jax will most likely bear us to the punch on one of them


It’s looking like a 5 blue chippers sort of draft..and the NYG will draft 6…take it to the bank.
RE: I guess  
EricJ : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15481904 PaulN said:
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Jason Garrett wasn't the problem after all...


so you think they designed a whole new offense after Garrett was fired? They are still running Garrett's offense. He was PART of the problem and had to go. Amazed that you cannot wrap your mind around that.
I get that he has to say something like that, but the whole culture  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
around football coaches is laugh out loud funny.
RE: LMAO  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."


JFC - he needs to be fired tonight.

Mississippi State dodged a bullet with this clown...
RE: LMAO  
pjcas18 : 12/5/2021 4:45 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."


I think someone else should maybe be evaluated for a concussion besides Glennon.
RE: Lions win  
Carson53 : 12/5/2021 4:47 pm : link
In comment 15481832 jeff57 said:
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On last play
.

Yipee-kayee. About time.
RE: LMAO  
Carson53 : 12/5/2021 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."
.

Get the boots out with commentary like that folks!
A ridiculous quote  
Matt M. : 12/5/2021 4:49 pm : link
Why lie at this point. I think straight shooting that they suck might be more impactful to a lockeroom full of guys used to losing.
Eric do you  
BigBlueJ : 12/5/2021 4:49 pm : link
think going forward you can also keep the tweet frame up in the post game, a lot of nuggets come out after the game as well.
I will say  
GiantTuff1 : 12/5/2021 4:50 pm : link
I liked what they TRIED to do on offense.

You can see they were trying to create situations to get Barkley and Golloday touches, and worked Barkley inside, outside, in space. Nothing was working. Why? A combination of a horrid line, a mediocre QB, and the Giants top players (Barkley and Golloday) not being real game changers is killing anything before it has a chance to succeed.

I think more than anything it is a major indictment of this roster. They are trying to scheme things on offense now, and it is clear their horses only have 3 legs and may need to be brought behind the barn.
RE: George Custer......  
FStubbs : 12/5/2021 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15481965 thrunthrublue said:
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A better leader than JJ. Should be a class action lawsuit for incompetence (nyg fans v Maras) if DG and JJ and the terrible scouts are around before the '22 draft begins......


George Custer was actually clutch at the end of the civil war, blocking Lee's retreat from Richmond and forcing him into Appomattox where he was forced to wave the white flag on the war.
RE: I will say  
FStubbs : 12/5/2021 4:55 pm : link
In comment 15482123 GiantTuff1 said:
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I liked what they TRIED to do on offense.

You can see they were trying to create situations to get Barkley and Golloday touches, and worked Barkley inside, outside, in space. Nothing was working. Why? A combination of a horrid line, a mediocre QB, and the Giants top players (Barkley and Golloday) not being real game changers is killing anything before it has a chance to succeed.

I think more than anything it is a major indictment of this roster. They are trying to scheme things on offense now, and it is clear their horses only have 3 legs and may need to be brought behind the barn.


I agree with this. Barkley can't get it done and Golladay seems like the next Barrett Green.
Until the fix the OL it really doesn't matter who the QB is,  
PatersonPlank : 12/5/2021 4:55 pm : link
who runs the ball, or who the WR's are. No one will look any good
“I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 4:57 pm : link
Too bad it was the other team
RE: LMAO  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 4:59 pm : link
In comment 15482050 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
Asked why he's encouraged by an offense that scored 9 points and totalled 250 yards, Giants coach Joe Judge said this:

"I saw a lot of players make a lot of big plays."


That is a parody account right?
Unless it's Belichick himself...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 5:01 pm : link
his coaching tree is an unmitigated disaster. And it should be chopped down and used for firewood.
A lot of  
Ron Johnson : 12/5/2021 5:01 pm : link
People here are going to be very disappointed.

Judge and Jones are not going anywhere
RE: A lot of  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2021 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15482186 Ron Johnson said:
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People here are going to be very disappointed.

Judge and Jones are not going anywhere


I think most of us expect them to be back. This team has been making the wrong decisions consistently for a decade. No reason to think Mara is suddenly going to start running this organization well.
RE: RE: RE: Hutchinson and Neal  
Regular Coffee : 12/5/2021 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15482058 The_Boss said:
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In comment 15482040 Simms11 said:


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In comment 15481821 WillVAB said:


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Would be great building blocks if the Giants and Bears keep losing. The foundation of this roster needs to be rebuilt.



Would be a Dream, but Detroit and Jax will most likely bear us to the punch on one of them



It’s looking like a 5 blue chippers sort of draft..and the NYG will draft 6…take it to the bank.


Maybe we could re-draft Cyclops
RE: Until the fix the OL it really doesn't matter who the QB is,  
Debaser : 12/5/2021 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15482149 PatersonPlank said:
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who runs the ball, or who the WR's are. No one will look any good


What point are you ultimately trying to make ? That jones could be good and we should keep him till the oline is improved?

That is total stupidity. For a second Glennon looked like he could be the better QB. On what planet does a back up ever look better than the starter?

I saw Glennon miss some easy throws but at the same time some throws to golladay looked like a pro QB that jones cannot do. I also saw a team horribly coached like never that bad at this level. Also why did they waste practice on jones? They know damn well what is wrong with him and how much time he is going to miss yet they waste practice on him. This team looked totally lost on offense with no one knowing where to even lineup .
I think Golladay  
Carson53 : 12/5/2021 5:06 pm : link
must be made of glass, gets hit a few times, he needs to come out of the game. Good investment there...
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