Stating the obvious, Dave Gettleman has been a disaster

what I read about his tenure in Carolina it is very debatable that he was a nice guy as well.

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With this reality.

You can debate what authority he’s had, but it’s not debatable in my view the Giants need someone much better in the role.

Are we sure he's a nice man? He's made some sexist comments.

But he is a disaster. Thanks again EA for recommending him! Doing a solid for a long time pal! YAY!

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He’s a Mara friend.

but I never expected him to be this awful. Just shows how quickly the league is changing - DG had a long, productive football life but the game passed him by.

Set this franchise back probably another 5 years.

was a bad GM his last several years. Gettleman has followed that path of consistency. Mistake after mistake with this franchise, minor and major mistakes.

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He comes off as a scumbag.

since December 29, 2017.

The day Accorsi concluded the fakest GM search in team sports history.

incredible. They actually hired a GM who has been much worse than Reese and Ross. One of the first things Gettleman did of course was to fire Ross.

In comment 15481893 Go Terps said:

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He comes off as a scumbag.

I said "might." I have no idea one way or the other.

The Giants haven’t had strong general management since the moment Mara told Reese on TV to fix it or else.

In comment 15481896 AcidTest said:

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incredible. They actually hired a GM who has been much worse than Reese and Ross. One of the first things Gettleman did of course was to fire Ross.

Let's not romanticize Ross. He was atrocious too.

In comment 15481873 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Are we sure he's a nice man? He's made some sexist comments. But he is a disaster. Thanks again EA for recommending him! Doing a solid for a long time pal! YAY!

Sexist comments?!? Oh no! I don't care if he wins us a Super Bowl. Fire him now for those comments!

His winning percentage as GM has to be near the Mendoza Line.

No doubt about it.

In comment 15481893 Go Terps said:

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He comes off as a scumbag.

“Rome wasn’t built in a day darling”. Gettleman to Kim Jones

bumbling idiot.

That's a damning statement!

1. Didn’t fix the o-line
2. Drafted the wrong QB.
3. Drafted a RB at two
4. 2 couches in 4 years

It’s pretty much text book failure.

There was massive doubt for me with both of those picks at the time: one was a gross miscalculation of where our team was at and positional value (Barkley), and the other was a major reach by all accounts (Jones) because we were desperate to atone for the end of Eli's career.

I have the feeling we hire another lackey at GM that Mara is comfortable with. That lackey will accept being saddled with Judge and/or Jones where better qualified candidates would not.

Hired him?

Not sure if changed the furniture in his office that much but 2 coaches in 4 years is pretty bad as well.

is an embarrassment from management to players to a shitty new stadium. this is what it feels like to be a jets and lions fan

In comment 15481890 Anakim said:

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What a brutal post. Come Anak. Be better. It’s like so many here forgot Reese was the GM of 2 super bowl winning teams. Scott fucking Layden? Show some respect.

The place I had the most confidence in him. He could t build an adequate O-line.. I really feel this team would be at least decent if we were even close to abs on the offensive line, but we are not

and then to make the same mistake you did with Reese - allow him to spend all of your cap space in a "win or else" year - is pretty much malpractice.

We’ve had a lot of those in recent years.

Who we gonna blame next in 2-3 years?

I did agree with Gettleman that the team he inherited needed to be turned over. While there was some talent, they did need a fresh start with new players in the building. The problem is that when you turn over a whole team, you then need to hit on the draft and free agency at a better rate/adding good players and talent then what you had.

So we traded away players, did resign players and made changes. That is all good, but he did not upgrade the team.

Now I do think we have some talent on this team and that the defense has 2 pass rushers away from being very strong and playoff caliber.

The biggest reason that I liked the Gettleman hire was that I thought he would fix the oline. That has been an absolute failure.

I do think the offense has talent on it, but most NFL offenses have talent on it. If you do not have a strong oline, it often does not matter.

I understand the valid arguments against Barkley and Jones.

I actually still like Jones, but understand moving on from him.

I do not trust Gettleman making anymore decisions.

Get the right GM in here and fix the oline and add a pass rusher we will be a much different team. I think we roll with Jones next year--I know most will be upset. However, I am not seeing it with this years draft and I don't think we can trade away a lot of draft picks for a QB.

The "Giants Way"...

Is they aren’t even close. When you watch games around the league, the offenses look completely different. Then you watch the Giants and everything is bad- the QB play, blocking, running backs, and skill players dropping passes. It’s so frustrating. Disfunctional.


Some bad teams at least offer a good, somewhat exciting product on the offensive side. I definitely cannot say that about the Giants.

They have 5 premium picks next year but it feels like they’d need about 15 picks and a complete reboot of the coaching staff and FO to even field a competitive team.

Today’s game was unwatchable. The type of game that puts your fandom to the test. Not sure there is anything to even watch for at this point, besides hoping to find answers (Is Jones a competent starter moving forward, does Saquon still have it, and is Golladay the guy they thought he was when they gave him 72 mil)

the culmination is that he's totally ham-stringed the Giants

... and having to watch Glennon quarterback the team, especially behind this scrub line, is adding insult to injury

In comment 15481937 KDubbs said:

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is an embarrassment from management to players to a shitty new stadium. this is what it feels like to be a jets and lions fan

Yep, mediocrity throughout. Even their own fans would rather wear throwback gear because their current designs are blah and uninspiring... sort of like their stadium!

In comment 15481924 SirLoinOfBeef said:

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That's a damning statement!

Worse than Reese? Reese won two Super Bowls...he's Bill Walsh by comparison.

Dave Gettleman is like Ray Handley to the power of 10. A complete catastrophe.

The Giants would be better off starting as an expansion team with no players than they are right now.

in the past decade.

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In comment 15481890 Anakim said: Quote: . What a brutal post. Come Anak. Be better. It’s like so many here forgot Reese was the GM of 2 super bowl winning teams. Scott fucking Layden? Show some respect.

You're right. He accomplished more than Layden did because he did win two Super Bowls. But Reese was awful in every other season. Flowers and Eli Apple in the top-10? Are you fucking kidding me? There's a reason why Mr. 2 Super Bowls hasn't gotten a GM job since.

I believe many don’t accurately remember when and what Ross did for the Giants.

He was hired in 2007 and according to Reese ran the drafts from 2008 on.

The 2008, 2009, and 2010 drafts were good drafts and a lot of this players contributed to the 2011 championship.

No argument though that the last 2/3s of his tenure is murky. Lots of bad picks and players who only flourished after leaving NY.

I'd argue he's the worst hire in Giants history.

In comment 15481952 Breeze_94 said:

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Is they aren’t even close. When you watch games around the league, the offenses look completely different. Then you watch the Giants and everything is bad- the QB play, blocking, running backs, and skill players dropping passes. It’s so frustrating. Disfunctional. Some bad teams at least offer a good, somewhat exciting product on the offensive side. I definitely cannot say that about the Giants. They have 5 premium picks next year but it feels like they’d need about 15 picks and a complete reboot of the coaching staff and FO to even field a competitive team. Today’s game was unwatchable. The type of game that puts your fandom to the test. Not sure there is anything to even watch for at this point, besides hoping to find answers (Is Jones a competent starter moving forward, does Saquon still have it, and is Golladay the guy they thought he was when they gave him 72 mil)

And to make matters worst my gut is leaning towards no on all 3 of those questions

Now the Titanic, that was a disaster.

Looked a hell of a lot better with Shurmer, the defense was just trash. This is not a personnel issue but a coaching issue.

bad free agent signings. He’s set this franchise back a decade.

34th overall, 6th overall pick, 17th overall pick, 30th overall pick

All fucking stink

And no not a nice man. Actually a grade A prick from all accounts

This was obvious as soon as he opened his mouth. Whether it was his introductory presser or the one after the Barkley pick. Plain as day that the guy is a moron. Dumb, unbelievably arrogant, ignorant. Just listen to him try to string a sentence together.

In comment 15481876 Jerry in_DC said:

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Sshh. Remember folks on BBI think Reese kept us from winning 5 Superbowls.