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HewlettGiant : 12/5/2021 4:39 pm
Being evaluated for a concussion
At least he didn't sprain his neck  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
That would probably be a sign of the apocalypse
In Jake Fromm State Farm  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
We trust
...  
broadbandz : 12/5/2021 4:41 pm : link
The guy flat out sucks, but no one is winning on this offense with Darious SLayton and Evan Engram as your main targets.
here  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/5/2021 4:42 pm : link
comes the Jake Fromm era!

Super Bowl...Super Bowl...Super Bowl...
Maybe that is why  
Giants73 : 12/5/2021 4:42 pm : link
It took him so long to go through progressions
RE: ...  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/5/2021 4:42 pm : link
In comment 15482062 broadbandz said:
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The guy flat out sucks, but no one is winning on this offense with Darious SLayton and Evan Engram as your main targets.


We can all vent but you probably bring truth to the current situation.
Lonk...  
BamaBlue : 12/5/2021 4:44 pm : link
RE: here  
bluesince56 : 12/5/2021 4:44 pm : link
In comment 15482065 Eric from BBI said:
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comes the Jake Fromm era!

Super Bowl...Super Bowl...Super Bowl...


This will give Mara another excuse to blame injuries
Let's hope...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 4:44 pm : link
Jones can recover quickly so we have a chance to possibly score 13 PPG.
My guess it was a play from early in the game  
SLIM_ : 12/5/2021 4:44 pm : link
took a shot in the face after passing. Being 6-7, I fail to see how that would not be a penalty.
It's true  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2021 4:44 pm : link

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Giants say Mike Glennon does have a concussion, post game evaluation confirms.
So Jake Fromm is QB1 if Daniel Jones is not cleared to play.
RE: here  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/5/2021 4:45 pm : link
In comment 15482065 Eric from BBI said:
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comes the Jake Fromm era!

Super Bowl...Super Bowl...Super Bowl...


No one is saying this, but what do you have to lose?

Another game? You already know what you are getting in Glennon and that isn’t much
In  
AcidTest : 12/5/2021 4:46 pm : link
Fromm we trust.

Best wishes to Glennon. Get well soon.
McNally's_Nuts  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/5/2021 4:46 pm : link
I heard the same argument made about Mike Glennon this week.

What do we have to lose?

Sunday's game thread is going to be joy, joy, joy.
I think Glennon has a blind spot  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/5/2021 4:46 pm : link
to safeties. One problem at least Jones doesn't have.
Toney  
Jerry in_DC : 12/5/2021 4:47 pm : link
Just do it. We don't scroe anyway - let's have some fun
Play Toney at QB if he’s healthy  
jeff57 : 12/5/2021 4:48 pm : link
That way he can throw to himself
I don’t think there is a word to describe him  
gmenrule-va : 12/5/2021 4:49 pm : link
Pathetic, embarrassing. Atrocious,incompetent, disgraceful, or even miserable seem to be compliments for his performance today.
RE: Toney  
KDubbs : 12/5/2021 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15482110 Jerry in_DC said:
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Just do it. We don't scroe anyway - let's have some fun


when your coaches coach like its the old days, they probably dont know how to have fun. i mean we cant even go for it on 4th and 2 at 4-7 down 10-6
Midway through the  
section125 : 12/5/2021 4:52 pm : link
3rd quarter Glennon just lost it. He was pretty calm and then he wouldn't throw the ball away and just seemed panicked...

Nevertheless, this was so poorly coached I do not know what to say. Even Graham at the end of the 2nd quarter went into a shell and allowed the Dolphins to go right down the field. Cannot drop back and let Tua dink and dunk down the field. Up until then he was pretty much smothered except for one drive.

Everyone needs a new job at Giantsville.
RE: here  
PepperJ52 : 12/5/2021 4:54 pm : link
In comment 15482065 Eric from BBI said:
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comes the Jake Fromm era!

Super Bowl...Super Bowl...Super Bowl...

I feel you. Broken 😞
Anyone else  
GiantTuff1 : 12/5/2021 4:56 pm : link
Feel the timing of these injuries is fishy?

Jones out to see how the offense operates with someone else.

Now Glennon potentially out to try out the new guy?

Both Jones and Glennon finished the games.

If the Giants wanted to test different scenarios without getting egg on the players face and causing a media storm, faking or exaggerating injuries would be one way to do it.
Glennon did  
Big Rick in FL : 12/5/2021 4:56 pm : link
Suffer a concussion per all of the beat writers.
Eric.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 4:56 pm : link
We are getting destroyed regardless. Fuck it.
Jesus  
mattlawson : 12/5/2021 4:57 pm : link
.
RE: I think Glennon has a blind spot  
CV36 : 12/5/2021 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15482106 Spiciest Memelord said:
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to safeties. One problem at least Jones doesn't have.


He does. I everything below 6’7”
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Go Terps : 12/5/2021 4:58 pm : link
The best thing for this organization is for Glennon and Jones to be placed on season ending IR. We know what they are, and don't need to see more.
It was pretty obvious  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/5/2021 4:58 pm : link
Dolphins were avoiding the middle mid-deep field. Yet your corner is playing off 8 yards on 3rd and 2. Should have also sent McKinney in as a robber to mix things up.
RE: Let's hope...  
JoeFootball : 12/5/2021 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15482084 bw in dc said:
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Jones can recover quickly so we have a chance to possibly score 13 PPG.


18.4
RE: .  
JoeFootball : 12/5/2021 5:06 pm : link
In comment 15482163 Go Terps said:
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The best thing for this organization is for Glennon and Jones to be placed on season ending IR. We know what they are, and don't need to see more.


You said Glennon was as good as Jones, What happened?
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Go Terps : 12/5/2021 5:08 pm : link
In comment 15482216 JoeFootball said:
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The best thing for this organization is for Glennon and Jones to be placed on season ending IR. We know what they are, and don't need to see more.



You said Glennon was as good as Jones, What happened?


I said the offense would perform about the same. And it did.

Both guys completely suck.
RE: RE: RE: .  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 5:08 pm : link
In comment 15482223 Go Terps said:
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The best thing for this organization is for Glennon and Jones to be placed on season ending IR. We know what they are, and don't need to see more.



You said Glennon was as good as Jones, What happened?



I said the offense would perform about the same. And it did.

Both guys completely suck.


No, the offense, as mediocre as it was with Jones, is better than what we saw with Glennon
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j_rud : 12/5/2021 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15482216 JoeFootball said:
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The best thing for this organization is for Glennon and Jones to be placed on season ending IR. We know what they are, and don't need to see more.



You said Glennon was as good as Jones, What happened?


They performed about as well as they would have if Jones played. You're kidding yourself if you think he'd have put 20+ points in the Dolphins D. There were probably 2 plays today that Jones would have made, Engram down the near sideline and the crossed to Ross. Otherwise I didn't see much of a difference.
RE: RE: Let's hope...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 5:10 pm : link
In comment 15482207 JoeFootball said:
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Jones can recover quickly so we have a chance to possibly score 13 PPG.



18.4


Well, with today's dismal effort, it's down to 17.6 PPG.
Some talented doctors  
Route 9 : 12/5/2021 5:11 pm : link
How can they tell if there's damahe compared to the way he plays normally?
RE: Some talented doctors  
Route 9 : 12/5/2021 5:11 pm : link
In comment 15482244 Route 9 said:
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How can they tell if there's damahe compared to the way he plays normally?


Damage
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DonQuixote : 12/5/2021 5:11 pm : link
In comment 15482216 JoeFootball said:
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The best thing for this organization is for Glennon and Jones to be placed on season ending IR. We know what they are, and don't need to see more.



You said Glennon was as good as Jones, What happened?


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RE: Anyone else  
SirLoinOfBeef : 12/5/2021 5:12 pm : link
In comment 15482151 GiantTuff1 said:
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Feel the timing of these injuries is fishy?

Jones out to see how the offense operates with someone else.

Now Glennon potentially out to try out the new guy?

Both Jones and Glennon finished the games.

If the Giants wanted to test different scenarios without getting egg on the players face and causing a media storm, faking or exaggerating injuries would be one way to do it.


I do. Giants can't just bench anyone. Fishy.
RE: RE: RE: .  
JoeFootball : 12/5/2021 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15482223 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15482216 JoeFootball said:

9 doesn't equal 18.4, Glennon and your beloved Judge could barely get a play off. Jones has been covering for everyone on that sideline. He's probably hoping to get cut or traded

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In comment 15482163 Go Terps said:


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The best thing for this organization is for Glennon and Jones to be placed on season ending IR. We know what they are, and don't need to see more.



You said Glennon was as good as Jones, What happened?



I said the offense would perform about the same. And it did.

Both guys completely suck.
Mike Glennon is a backup  
Essex : 12/5/2021 5:14 pm : link
Daniel Jones is a starter in this league. You want to say a bottom third starter, I can't disagree with that, but the difference between the two of them is stark. Glennon is absolutely awful. Jones might not be a guy to build around, but he can play football and you can gameplay around him.
Both visits to Florida this year  
Route 9 : 12/5/2021 5:20 pm : link
Giants scored 9 points with Glennon
Giants scored 10 points with Jones
The  
Toth029 : 12/5/2021 5:21 pm : link
Engram pass was a missed TD.

Pretty blind to say it was just a basic pass he missed.

Also had a number of missed 3rd down throws.
This Oline is god awful  
mdthedream : 12/5/2021 5:24 pm : link
We need to fix the Oline. We can't run or pass protect so how do we know if Jones is good or not? Get us a OT and more.
RE: Mike Glennon is a backup  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 5:28 pm : link
In comment 15482264 Essex said:
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Daniel Jones is a starter in this league. You want to say a bottom third starter, I can't disagree with that, but the difference between the two of them is stark. Glennon is absolutely awful. Jones might not be a guy to build around, but he can play football and you can gameplay around him.


Daniel Jones' career is the David Carr scenario version 2.0
RE: RE: Mike Glennon is a backup  
j_rud : 12/5/2021 5:31 pm : link
In comment 15482311 dpinzow said:
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Daniel Jones is a starter in this league. You want to say a bottom third starter, I can't disagree with that, but the difference between the two of them is stark. Glennon is absolutely awful. Jones might not be a guy to build around, but he can play football and you can gameplay around him.



Daniel Jones' career is the David Carr scenario version 2.0


Waiting for a Jones apologist to unironically remind us that David Carr has a Super Bowl ring...
One possible positive  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/5/2021 5:32 pm : link
DJ doesn't have a complete meltdown in bad situations and throw 4 interceptions, which there were probably plenty of situations to. He keeps fighting, often hopelessly.
I cannot get over that JJ quote per Ralph V.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 5:32 pm : link
I...loss for words.
Maybe we could just forfeit  
Simms11 : 12/5/2021 5:36 pm : link
the last 5 games!
Sadly  
DonQuixote : 12/5/2021 5:45 pm : link
After maybe a quarter century on this site, I am beginning to hate it. I am not sure why we ban political threads when literally everything is tribal.
RE: RE: Mike Glennon is a backup  
DonQuixote : 12/5/2021 5:47 pm : link
In comment 15482311 dpinzow said:
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Daniel Jones is a starter in this league. You want to say a bottom third starter, I can't disagree with that, but the difference between the two of them is stark. Glennon is absolutely awful. Jones might not be a guy to build around, but he can play football and you can gameplay around him.



Daniel Jones' career is the David Carr scenario version 2.0

Are you referring to the David Carr who is near the top of the NFL in a number of passing metrics?
RE: RE: RE: Mike Glennon is a backup  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 5:49 pm : link
In comment 15482390 DonQuixote said:
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Daniel Jones is a starter in this league. You want to say a bottom third starter, I can't disagree with that, but the difference between the two of them is stark. Glennon is absolutely awful. Jones might not be a guy to build around, but he can play football and you can gameplay around him.



Daniel Jones' career is the David Carr scenario version 2.0


Are you referring to the David Carr who is near the top of the NFL in a number of passing metrics?


I'm referring to the organizational dysfunction around the QB and the inability to build an offensive line. The Texans at least had the excuse of being an expansion team when they drafted Carr
RE: I cannot get over that JJ quote per Ralph V.  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 5:50 pm : link
In comment 15482319 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I...loss for words.


It is unbelievable. A quote like that joins the endless moronic quotes issued by Gettleman over the years...
RE: One possible positive  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2021 5:52 pm : link
In comment 15482318 Spiciest Memelord said:
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DJ doesn't have a complete meltdown in bad situations and throw 4 interceptions, which there were probably plenty of situations to. He keeps fighting, often hopelessly.


If there is one way to describe how Jones plays, “hopeless” isn’t a bad choice.
RE: I cannot get over that JJ quote per Ralph V.  
BigBlueShock : 12/5/2021 5:53 pm : link
In comment 15482319 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I...loss for words.

Which quote?
RE: RE: I cannot get over that JJ quote per Ralph V.  
dpinzow : 12/5/2021 5:53 pm : link
In comment 15482408 BigBlueShock said:
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I...loss for words.


Which quote?


Something to the effect of the offense made some great plays with Glennon at QB
RE: RE: RE: Mike Glennon is a backup  
PetesHereNow : 12/5/2021 5:55 pm : link
In comment 15482390 DonQuixote said:
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Daniel Jones is a starter in this league. You want to say a bottom third starter, I can't disagree with that, but the difference between the two of them is stark. Glennon is absolutely awful. Jones might not be a guy to build around, but he can play football and you can gameplay around him.



Daniel Jones' career is the David Carr scenario version 2.0


Are you referring to the David Carr who is near the top of the NFL in a number of passing metrics?


You have your Carrs confused. David is the one who is retired because he got the snot knocked out of him behind a pitiful offensive line. Derek is the one on the Raiders who is currently doing quite well for them.
Bring on Fromm  
UConn4523 : 12/5/2021 6:12 pm : link
would actually be a must see game IMO.
RE: Bring on Fromm  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 6:15 pm : link
In comment 15482443 UConn4523 said:
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would actually be a must see game IMO.


Indeed.
Had a long conversation  
Biteymax22 : 12/5/2021 6:20 pm : link
With my father after the game about how he seemed to regress as the game went on. Footwork, processing speed etc…. I guess this explains it.

My question is this. I get Fromm had 4 or so practices. Obviously if they checked the concussion right after the game someone knew he wasn’t right during it. How did they not notice something medically off and get a new QB in the game?
when did it happen? He seemed OK in the first half and then it was  
Debaser : 12/5/2021 6:37 pm : link
like he was playing horribly bad in the second half.
It took the entire second half  
cjac : 12/5/2021 6:39 pm : link
For the signals in his brain to make it down to the rest of his body
Fromm  
Debaser : 12/5/2021 6:40 pm : link
What do you think you are going to see? Has there ever been a QB who just came in and light it up let alone with this coaching staff? They didn't look like they got these guy ready to play at all.
Is it possible  
Joe Beckwith : 12/5/2021 6:51 pm : link
that they are smokescreening for an actual SUCK FOR/ TANK FOR/FLOP FOR, or some other cute phrase meaning ‘We’ll try hard to win, but once we are unlikely to win , we’ll just sort of try?
Maybe  
Scooter185 : 12/5/2021 7:09 pm : link
They should have traded for Minshew
RE: when did it happen? He seemed OK in the first half and then it was  
Shecky : 12/5/2021 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15482522 Debaser said:
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like he was playing horribly bad in the second half.


Happened on the first Phillips sack. His head hit the turf very hard.
sorry random but I don't remember  
Leg of Theismann : 12/5/2021 8:41 pm : link
why didn't we keep McCoy this past offseason?

This thread title just made me think of this
 
ryanmkeane : 12/5/2021 10:08 pm : link
Sucks that he has a concussion. But honestly - that might have been one of the worst games at the QB position I’ve watched in nearly 20 years.
RE: …  
christian : 12/5/2021 10:31 pm : link
In comment 15483019 ryanmkeane said:
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Sucks that he has a concussion. But honestly - that might have been one of the worst games at the QB position I’ve watched in nearly 20 years.


Those might be related concepts.
He played well most of the first half  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2021 10:36 pm : link
In the second he seemed late and inaccurate with most of his throws. If the concussion happened earlier in the second half, how was this missed by both the NFL spotters and the Giants’ coaching staff?

Well, nevermind on the second part of that. This coaching staff doesn’t seem to watch the games much.
RE: Fromm  
Jimmy Googs : 12/5/2021 10:40 pm : link
In comment 15482535 Debaser said:
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What do you think you are going to see? Has there ever been a QB who just came in and light it up let alone with this coaching staff? They didn't look like they got these guy ready to play at all.


You could be right. But then again you’re typically wrong so that gives me hope for Fromm...
....  
BrettNYG10 : 12/5/2021 10:44 pm : link
How did they miss this during the game?
RE: ....  
christian : 12/5/2021 10:47 pm : link
In comment 15483095 BrettNYG10 said:
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How did they miss this during the game?


The whole operation is a mess.

I’m even beginning to believe the IT guy who claims he got beat up at work.
RE: RE: ....  
BrettNYG10 : 12/5/2021 11:00 pm : link
In comment 15483096 christian said:
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How did they miss this during the game?



The whole operation is a mess.

I’m even beginning to believe the IT guy who claims he got beat up at work.


I hate this team so much, lol.
The IT guy was probably making them feel insecure about their  
NoGainDayne : 12/6/2021 12:03 am : link
technology skills and the abuse started when he simply refused to call them visionaries
RE: ....  
NoGainDayne : 12/6/2021 12:10 am : link
In comment 15483095 BrettNYG10 said:
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How did they miss this during the game?


What do you mean? Glennon played with more poise than DJ, how were they supposed to know? Glennon wasn't throwing the ball at any opposing teams DL or running into LBs. Not to mention if he was staring blankly off in the distance or being lectured on the sideline about what he was missing they call that a regular football game for DJ.

Or maybe JJ just had all his attention monopolized by the big plays he was seeing from his team!
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