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Gardner Minshew not worth a 6th round pick, right?

Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 5:00 pm
You can't tell me he'd be worst than Glennon was today. It is utterly mind boggling that the Giants were so confident not just in Jones ability, but Jones ability to stay healthy, that they were stupid enough to go into the season with Glennon as the backup.
Couldn’t interrupt the scholarship  
Sean : 12/5/2021 5:01 pm : link
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what would Minshew have done today?  
BillKo : 12/5/2021 5:02 pm : link
The cast and coaching blow.

Minshew is not the answer to anything.
Pretty obvious...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 5:03 pm : link
that Mara/Gettleman...and maybe even Judge...didn't want their Eli 2.0 to deal with any real competition.
Yeah  
Jerry in_DC : 12/5/2021 5:03 pm : link
That was about prioritizing Jones's comfort level over the good of the team.
Minshew is flawed….  
Vin_Cuccs : 12/5/2021 5:04 pm : link
But he has talent. With an injury prone starting QB, it was beyond foolish to at least not look into him as an option.

Any in typical fashion, Philadelphia has a plan in mind with their roster, and they execute it well.
RE: what would Minshew have done today?  
Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15482189 BillKo said:
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The cast and coaching blow.

Minshew is not the answer to anything.
Who is saying he's the answer to anything? He's a competent backup QB (more competent than Jones) and actually would light a fire under Jones ass because he may actually even be better.

Point being that a game wouldn't be automatically sacrificed due to Jones being out, like it is with Mike fucking Glennon.

"we have one of the worst starting QBs in the league, so let's make sure we don't hurt his feelings by getting one of the better backups in the league".

Kindly stop wasting  
section125 : 12/5/2021 5:06 pm : link
picks/money on Minshew. He will do nothing that we haven't seen already.
RE: Kindly stop wasting  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 5:07 pm : link
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picks/money on Minshew. He will do nothing that we haven't seen already.


A 6th pick exchange for a competent NFL QB is not wasting picks.
RE: Kindly stop wasting  
BillKo : 12/5/2021 5:08 pm : link
In comment 15482213 section125 said:
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picks/money on Minshew. He will do nothing that we haven't seen already.


Dime a dozen QB...
And if Misnhew had played last week instead of Hurts  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 12/5/2021 5:09 pm : link
The Giants would have lost, and their draft position would be even better.
RE: what would Minshew have done today?  
santacruzom : 12/5/2021 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15482189 BillKo said:
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Minshew is not the answer to anything.


That's not true. He's an answer to the question: "Who are some backup QBs that are better than our starting QB?"
And if Minshew had played last week instead of Hurts  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 12/5/2021 5:10 pm : link
The Giants would have lost, and their draft position would be even better.
RE: RE: Kindly stop wasting  
section125 : 12/5/2021 5:10 pm : link
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picks/money on Minshew. He will do nothing that we haven't seen already.



A 6th pick exchange for a competent NFL QB is not wasting picks.


He is not any better than Jones, please stop it.
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section125 : 12/5/2021 5:11 pm : link
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picks/money on Minshew. He will do nothing that we haven't seen already.



A 6th pick exchange for a competent NFL QB is not wasting picks.



He is not any better than Jones, please stop it.


If he was so good, he wouldn't be kicking around the league.
RE: RE: RE: Kindly stop wasting  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 5:12 pm : link
In comment 15482239 section125 said:
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A 6th pick exchange for a competent NFL QB is not wasting picks.



He is not any better than Jones, please stop it.


He's better than Glennon - right?

And he's certainly no worse than Jones.
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section125 : 12/5/2021 5:13 pm : link
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A 6th pick exchange for a competent NFL QB is not wasting picks.



He is not any better than Jones, please stop it.



He's better than Glennon - right?

And he's certainly no worse than Jones.


Yes, he is worse than Jones. Stop the pandering.
RE: RE: what would Minshew have done today?  
BillKo : 12/5/2021 5:14 pm : link
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Minshew is not the answer to anything.



That's not true. He's an answer to the question: "Who are some backup QBs that are better than our starting QB?"


It's probably true and (very debatable) about GM, but the Giants were looking at Jones in terms of long term value. The hope from all of is Jones would have gotten better.

Minshew is exactly now what he will be in 10 years.

We stuck with Jones due to potential upside. Now it has worked out but that's the gamble of trying to find your QB who plays 10 years.
Minshew was absolutely worth a 6th round pick  
SLIM_ : 12/5/2021 5:19 pm : link
He is a cost controlled (next year too) backup who can come in and win a game or 2.

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RE: Minshew was absolutely worth a 6th round pick  
section125 : 12/5/2021 5:23 pm : link
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He is a cost controlled (next year too) backup who can come in and win a game or 2.

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Exactly what they need, another backup QB...save the picks. Blow this shit up and start over.
Minshew played the worst defense in the sport today.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2021 5:23 pm : link
Let’s calm down.
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Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 5:24 pm : link
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picks/money on Minshew. He will do nothing that we haven't seen already.



A 6th pick exchange for a competent NFL QB is not wasting picks.



He is not any better than Jones, please stop it.



If he was so good, he wouldn't be kicking around the league.
The only reason Jones isn't "kicking around the league" is because of his scholarship and where he was drafted.

But this thread isn't about Jones vs Minshew. It's about Glennon vs Minshew, and the fact that it was idiotic not to trade for Minshew. And if Jones was a reason for that, it's even stupider of an action by the GM.

My post is not intended to be a bash Jones thread. It's intended to be a bash Gettleman one.

But don't come in here and act like Jones is unequivocally much better than Minshew. He isn't and if you ask 75% of Giants fans and 100% of fans of other teams, you'll get a resounding "No" to that question.
Minshew absolutely is a better QB than Jones  
Go Terps : 12/5/2021 5:25 pm : link
He was much better in college, and he's been better in the pros.
RE: RE: what would Minshew have done today?  
Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 5:25 pm : link
In comment 15482200 Bear vs Shark said:
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The cast and coaching blow.

Minshew is not the answer to anything.

Who is saying he's the answer to anything? He's a competent backup QB (more competent than Jones) and actually would light a fire under Jones ass because he may actually even be better.

Point being that a game wouldn't be automatically sacrificed due to Jones being out, like it is with Mike fucking Glennon.

"we have one of the worst starting QBs in the league, so let's make sure we don't hurt his feelings by getting one of the better backups in the league".
This post by me was a typo, I meant to say "more competent than Glennon"
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Kindly stop wasting  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 5:26 pm : link
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He's better than Glennon - right?

And he's certainly no worse than Jones.



Yes, he is worse than Jones. Stop the pandering.


I really suggest you revisit Minshew's stats. They are every bit as good as Jones.
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Section331 : 12/5/2021 5:31 pm : link
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picks/money on Minshew. He will do nothing that we haven't seen already.



A 6th pick exchange for a competent NFL QB is not wasting picks.



He is not any better than Jones, please stop it.


Yes he is. 37 TD passes in 20 starts. Minshew is exactly the type of QB the Giants should have targeted.
RE: Minshew absolutely is a better QB than Jones  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 5:33 pm : link
In comment 15482303 Go Terps said:
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He was much better in college, and he's been better in the pros.


I agree.
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section125 : 12/5/2021 5:33 pm : link
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He's better than Glennon - right?

And he's certainly no worse than Jones.



Yes, he is worse than Jones. Stop the pandering.



I really suggest you revisit Minshew's stats. They are every bit as good as Jones.


Why do you get rid of one QB for another one that may be equal to the one you have but probably isn't? Minshew has topped out. I do not think Jones has topped out for a team with a competent oline.
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Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 5:35 pm : link
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He's better than Glennon - right?

And he's certainly no worse than Jones.



Yes, he is worse than Jones. Stop the pandering.



I really suggest you revisit Minshew's stats. They are every bit as good as Jones.



Why do you get rid of one QB for another one that may be equal to the one you have but probably isn't? Minshew has topped out. I do not think Jones has topped out for a team with a competent oline.
Who said get rid of Jones for Minshew? The point is that this team needed a backup QB and Minshew is probably one of the top ones in the league -- and the did not get him.
And for the record  
Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 5:36 pm : link
Minshew might be better than Jones. But my point is that there was zero reason for the Giants to not trade a 6th for Minshew.

Might have won this game, might have even beat Dallas
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section125 : 12/5/2021 5:38 pm : link
In comment 15482324 Bear vs Shark said:
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Who said get rid of Jones for Minshew? The point is that this team needed a backup QB and Minshew is probably one of the top ones in the league -- and the did not get him.


Oh, the old hindsight two step.
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bw in dc : 12/5/2021 5:41 pm : link
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I really suggest you revisit Minshew's stats. They are every bit as good as Jones.



Why do you get rid of one QB for another one that may be equal to the one you have but probably isn't? Minshew has topped out. I do not think Jones has topped out for a team with a competent oline.


I'm not suggesting Minshew is a long-term solution. But for a 6th round pick, it would have been a very shrewd investment.

-- 1. It creates competition.
-- 2. Nice insurance policy for these exact situations.
-- 3. Cheap contract
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Section331 : 12/5/2021 5:41 pm : link
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He's better than Glennon - right?

And he's certainly no worse than Jones.



Yes, he is worse than Jones. Stop the pandering.



I really suggest you revisit Minshew's stats. They are every bit as good as Jones.



Why do you get rid of one QB for another one that may be equal to the one you have but probably isn't? Minshew has topped out. I do not think Jones has topped out for a team with a competent oline.


Minshew has topped out? He played very well today, his first opportunity to play with any semblance of talent. So we can’t evaluate Jones because of a lousy roster around him, but you have zero problem doing that for Minshew. I guess you were wowed with all of that Jacksonville talent.
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section125 : 12/5/2021 5:48 pm : link
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Minshew has topped out? He played very well today, his first opportunity to play with any semblance of talent. So we can’t evaluate Jones because of a lousy roster around him, but you have zero problem doing that for Minshew. I guess you were wowed with all of that Jacksonville talent.


Hey, believe whatever you want. Have at it.
I have  
jtfuoco : 12/5/2021 6:13 pm : link
Watch a ton of minshew over the past few years and there is no doubt that he is equal to skill of Jones but not better but worth a 6th round pick.

but you know that is why he was not brought in he would have messed with the optics of how the organization is being managed when there was no doubt minshew would get in since Jones can't stay healthy and most likely look competitive and show some fire on the sideline and the fans would fall in love with it.
Even if he is worth a 6th round pick  
pjcas18 : 12/5/2021 6:14 pm : link
to what end?

Another JAG QB to get murdered behind a shitty OL with shitty play calling.

No issue with not pursuing Minshew.
let’s not act like it is particularly Giants-y  
wigs in nyc : 12/5/2021 6:20 pm : link
to avoid a quarterback controversy.

For all the belief in ‘competition for roster spots yields best results’ which we see up and down rosters where possible, the league believes remarkably differently, for better or worse, at the QB position which they seem to treat as a marker of organizational stability. The generally accepted philosophy just appears to be different there.
Minshew today...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 6:24 pm : link
20/25, 242, 9.7 YPA, 2 TDs/0 INTs, 78+ QBR.

Pretty damn solid.

Jones best QBR this year was 67.
Love these threads  
UConn4523 : 12/5/2021 6:25 pm : link
until we fix our core issues it’s going to take an elite talent at QB to move the needle for us. Minshew probably runs this offense poorly just like our guys do.

This says more about Hurts, actually. It also says a lot about the EAgles system always giving their QB opportunity - something I mentioned many times in the past.
bw in DC.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 6:25 pm : link
Minshew is better than DJ.
RE: Minshew today...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2021 6:36 pm : link
In comment 15482478 bw in dc said:
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20/25, 242, 9.7 YPA, 2 TDs/0 INTs, 78+ QBR.

Pretty damn solid.

Jones best QBR this year was 67.


He played the WORST defense in the NFL today… 31st in total defense and dead last in scoring defense. Footballoutsiders.com has the Jets as 20% worse than the next closest defense in the sport this season.
RE: bw in DC.  
X : 12/5/2021 6:38 pm : link
In comment 15482481 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Minshew is better than DJ.


How many GMs would agree with that statement?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Kindly stop wasting  
Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 6:42 pm : link
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Who said get rid of Jones for Minshew? The point is that this team needed a backup QB and Minshew is probably one of the top ones in the league -- and the did not get him.



Oh, the old hindsight two step.
Hindsight 2 step? Give me a fucking break, this was literally a few months ago. If you give enough of a fuck, feel free to go through my post history and find me making this thread when the trade went down, because I was 100% made it.
RE: RE: Minshew today...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 6:42 pm : link
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20/25, 242, 9.7 YPA, 2 TDs/0 INTs, 78+ QBR.

Pretty damn solid.

Jones best QBR this year was 67.



He played the WORST defense in the NFL today… 31st in total defense and dead last in scoring defense. Footballoutsiders.com has the Jets as 20% worse than the next closest defense in the sport this season.


And Jones has played against the Falcons (31st defense in PPG), Raiders (29th in PPG), and WFT (25th in PPG).

His QBRs in those games: 49.4, 43, and 59.6.

Any other insights you'd like to add?
RE: RE: bw in DC.  
Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 6:44 pm : link
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Minshew is better than DJ.



How many GMs would agree with that statement?
I don't think this question was the slam dunk you thought it was when you posted it.

But again, this is about going into the season with MIKE GLENNON as the backup QB. How many GMs would say Minshew is better than Glennon? 100%
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2021 6:49 pm : link
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20/25, 242, 9.7 YPA, 2 TDs/0 INTs, 78+ QBR.

Pretty damn solid.

Jones best QBR this year was 67.



He played the WORST defense in the NFL today… 31st in total defense and dead last in scoring defense. Footballoutsiders.com has the Jets as 20% worse than the next closest defense in the sport this season.



And Jones has played against the Falcons (31st defense in PPG), Raiders (29th in PPG), and WFT (25th in PPG).

His QBRs in those games: 49.4, 43, and 59.6.

Any other insights you'd like to add?


Gardner Minshew played the worst defense in the sport today and nimrods are throwing him bouquets. I didn’t bring up Daniel Jones. I just said WGAF about what Minshew did today. Even you can understand that. Maybe not.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Minshew today...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 6:52 pm : link
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20/25, 242, 9.7 YPA, 2 TDs/0 INTs, 78+ QBR.

Pretty damn solid.

Jones best QBR this year was 67.



He played the WORST defense in the NFL today… 31st in total defense and dead last in scoring defense. Footballoutsiders.com has the Jets as 20% worse than the next closest defense in the sport this season.



And Jones has played against the Falcons (31st defense in PPG), Raiders (29th in PPG), and WFT (25th in PPG).

His QBRs in those games: 49.4, 43, and 59.6.

Any other insights you'd like to add?



Gardner Minshew played the worst defense in the sport today and nimrods are throwing him bouquets. I didn’t bring up Daniel Jones. I just said WGAF about what Minshew did today. Even you can understand that. Maybe not.


I get it. But Minshew still delivered a high QBR.

I brought up Jones to show that he had three cracks this year at piss poor defenses (ATL is the second worst to the Jets) and he couldn't get in the same QBR universe as Minshew.
Minshew would suck on this team  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2021 6:53 pm : link
meanwhile people are arguing whether he would suck more or less than Jones

Let's run down our position groups

Oline-Horrific
Running Backs-Pitiful
WRs-Fragile
TEs-Pathetic
QBs-Sad

Minshew isn't coming here and making Chicken salad out of our chicken shit
When Jones played well against bad teams as a rookie,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2021 7:00 pm : link
some said, “Who cares? Those are bad teams.”

As for Minshew, many teams bypassed on the chance to bring him in, including those for which there would never be a QB controversy. Maybe most of the sport just doesn’t think he’s particularly good. Maybe they’re wrong. Who knows??
It's funny how posters forget...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 7:04 pm : link
that Minshew played for Jacksonville for two season and produced 37 TDs/11 INTs, 63% completion, 7+ YPA, and a 44+ QBR.

So he was playing for a team worse than NYG; but he actually had more production than Jones.

Again, I'm not saying Minshew is a long term solution. But this counter that he's inferior to Jones is laughable...
RE: It's funny how posters forget...  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2021 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15482614 bw in dc said:
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that Minshew played for Jacksonville for two season and produced 37 TDs/11 INTs, 63% completion, 7+ YPA, and a 44+ QBR.

So he was playing for a team worse than NYG; but he actually had more production than Jones.

Again, I'm not saying Minshew is a long term solution. But this counter that he's inferior to Jones is laughable...


Minshew played well when Jax had a good team. Better than the Giants. They went to the playoffs. And when they got rid of their talent Minshew stunk...which is why he was benched and replaced
Minshew was...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 7:27 pm : link
6-6 as starter in 2019 when Jax was 6-10 overall.

In 2020, he was 1-7 when Jax was 1-15.

So Jax was never good while he was there.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Minshew today...  
Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 7:38 pm : link
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20/25, 242, 9.7 YPA, 2 TDs/0 INTs, 78+ QBR.

Pretty damn solid.

Jones best QBR this year was 67.



He played the WORST defense in the NFL today… 31st in total defense and dead last in scoring defense. Footballoutsiders.com has the Jets as 20% worse than the next closest defense in the sport this season.



And Jones has played against the Falcons (31st defense in PPG), Raiders (29th in PPG), and WFT (25th in PPG).

His QBRs in those games: 49.4, 43, and 59.6.

Any other insights you'd like to add?



Gardner Minshew played the worst defense in the sport today and nimrods are throwing him bouquets. I didn’t bring up Daniel Jones. I just said WGAF about what Minshew did today. Even you can understand that. Maybe not.
Saying that Minshew is better than the absolute trash we saw from Glennon is not throwing him a bouquet, so spare me the hyperbole and stop putting words in my mouth.
Glennon is ok as backup  
Scooter185 : 12/5/2021 7:45 pm : link
"Because we're not winning without Jones anyway"

today was very winnable with a better backup qb. But downgrading was needed to not cause any controversy
This whole thread is stupid  
bwitz : 12/5/2021 7:51 pm : link
Arguing about who would’ve been the better back up? As if Minshew would’ve given some kind of hope for an already lost season?

Jesus fucking christ.
RE: This whole thread is stupid  
Bear vs Shark : 12/5/2021 8:10 pm : link
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Arguing about who would’ve been the better back up? As if Minshew would’ve given some kind of hope for an already lost season?

Jesus fucking christ.


yeah so stupid, why talk about who is backing up the most important player on a football team, for a specific guy who hasn't even shown he's good yet, who also gets hurt for like 3-4 games every year.

If you can get a young QB who can win games and may at least show enough that you can trade him for an asset, particularly given the Jones situation, you do it.

jesus fucking christ
He should have been traded for absolutely.  
Jimmy Googs : 12/5/2021 8:44 pm : link
Go look in the archives on that thread debating it.

Lots of chuckleheads arguing against it...
RE: RE: This whole thread is stupid  
bwitz : 12/5/2021 8:52 pm : link
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Arguing about who would’ve been the better back up? As if Minshew would’ve given some kind of hope for an already lost season?

Jesus fucking christ.



yeah so stupid, why talk about who is backing up the most important player on a football team, for a specific guy who hasn't even shown he's good yet, who also gets hurt for like 3-4 games every year.

If you can get a young QB who can win games and may at least show enough that you can trade him for an asset, particularly given the Jones situation, you do it.

jesus fucking christ


Blah blah blah

You still don’t get the point and, that’s not surprising.
RE: When Jones played well against bad teams as a rookie,  
bradshaw44 : 12/5/2021 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15482602 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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some said, “Who cares? Those are bad teams.”

As for Minshew, many teams bypassed on the chance to bring him in, including those for which there would never be a QB controversy. Maybe most of the sport just doesn’t think he’s particularly good. Maybe they’re wrong. Who knows??


I believe at one point in college or something he didn’t want to play so he smashed his hand with a hammer. I heard that story somewhere. And if true, I can see why teams would look passed talent and evaluate his personality over talent.
RE: Minshew was...  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2021 10:20 pm : link
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6-6 as starter in 2019 when Jax was 6-10 overall.

In 2020, he was 1-7 when Jax was 1-15.

So Jax was never good while he was there.


My mistake on the years. Thanks for the correction. But my point is the same. As the talent around him left, so did the wins. I actually like Minshew and do think he is worth a 6th rounder. BUT, he would still look like dogshit on this offense
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GiantGrit : 12/5/2021 11:10 pm : link
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Arguing about who would’ve been the better back up? As if Minshew would’ve given some kind of hope for an already lost season?

Jesus fucking christ.



yeah so stupid, why talk about who is backing up the most important player on a football team, for a specific guy who hasn't even shown he's good yet, who also gets hurt for like 3-4 games every year.

If you can get a young QB who can win games and may at least show enough that you can trade him for an asset, particularly given the Jones situation, you do it.

jesus fucking christ



Blah blah blah

You still don’t get the point and, that’s not surprising.


Why comment? Its a good example of how poorly the Giants construct the roster. This is a New York Giants fan forum right? Did anyone here say Minshew would give hope for a lost season?

Go post on Reddit if Gardner Minshew threads trigger you.
The fundamental point here is that the giants  
bhill410 : 12/5/2021 11:31 pm : link
Felt they were a potential playoff team prior to the season starting and then took the decision that it was wise to entrust what they viewed as a playoff roster with a horrible back up qb. If we were say 6-5 going into todays game and had to start glennon we would be freaking out. Just because we are horrible doesn’t excuse the very questionable decision to have Glennon on the roster.
Please there is a very good reason why the Giants wanted Glennon  
Debaser : 12/6/2021 10:02 am : link
Glennon is a back up , knows he is a back up. Minshew is better ; a threat to Jones as a starter; and wants to start.
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