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Vacchiano: Fromm likely starting next week

Sean : 12/5/2021 5:34 pm
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Ralph Vacchiano
@RVacchianoSNY
Giants QB Daniel Jones is 'likely' out next week, per sources, and may be evaluated by a specialist.

So with Mike Glennon's concussion, Jake Fromm's going to be preparing for his first NFL start this week.


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RE: RE: I'm calling it now  
BillKo : 12/5/2021 5:47 pm : link
In comment 15482375 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15482344 Eric from BBI said:


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after next week, the chorus will be for Brian Lewerke.

I joke. Kind of.



I think you are missing the point. Consider this an open try-out for the QB position. So why wouldn't you want to see different players like Fromm?



Here's what I think you don't get. Those guys are sub NFL talent most likely who are going to get their doors blown of playing behind this talent.

How in the world is that an open tryout? There's zero tryout here. Sounds like a suicide mission.
bw in dc  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/5/2021 5:48 pm : link
It was a joke.

Terps  
GiantTuff1 : 12/5/2021 5:49 pm : link
Fromm's Frosh and Soph years 9.0 yards per attempt. Career at Georgia 8.4 Y/A and 78 TD to 18 INT (4:1)

I know it's Georgia and they are loaded with talent but at least he accomplished this at some level of football.
and of course the game thread will be classic...  
BillKo : 12/5/2021 5:52 pm : link
.....ripping on Fromm for being a minor league QB!!!!!
Feels like a benching of Jones.  
SirLoinOfBeef : 12/5/2021 5:53 pm : link
Covered up in an injury. Maybe he's hurt, but maybe let's see somebody else before I get fired.- Coaches.
RE: Feels like a benching of Jones.  
BigBlueJ : 12/5/2021 5:56 pm : link
In comment 15482410 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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Covered up in an injury. Maybe he's hurt, but maybe let's see somebody else before I get fired.- Coaches.



No way..
RE: GT.  
FStubbs : 12/5/2021 5:56 pm : link
In comment 15482364 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I am getting strong 03 vibes too. At this point...lose out.


I wish it were 03. This team seems more dire.

The 02 team made the playoffs after all.
RE: I'm calling it now  
Hammer : 12/5/2021 5:57 pm : link
In comment 15482344 Eric from BBI said:
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after next week, the chorus will be for Brian Lewerke.

I joke. Kind of.


It's not funny.
Granted, the Bills aren't exactly hurting at QB right now  
BlackLight : 12/5/2021 5:57 pm : link
but it doesn't leave me sunny with optimism that Fromm has been on their practice squad since the start of last season and nobody thought about signing him until last week.

I think if the Bills really thought they had something there, they would've elevated him long ago, if only as insurance for Josh Allen
This is going to be a fun game  
montanagiant : 12/5/2021 5:58 pm : link
Especially the comments after the game
RE: This is going to be a fun game  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 6:01 pm : link
In comment 15482420 montanagiant said:
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Especially the comments after the game


425 kickoff? Visiting cousin in Maine? Yeah, I will be sauced by kickoff.
RE: Feels like a benching of Jones.  
joeinpa : 12/5/2021 6:02 pm : link
In comment 15482410 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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Covered up in an injury. Maybe he's hurt, but maybe let's see somebody else before I get fired.- Coaches.


Do you really think there is an actual possibility that Jones’ injury is not legit!

Yikes!
Fromm  
AcidTest : 12/5/2021 6:07 pm : link
couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.
‘03?  
cosmicj : 12/5/2021 6:07 pm : link
I know what you mean but do you realize what a massive coaching upgrade Jim Fassel would be? Fassel coached a team with a good defense and Danny Kannell starting at QB to almost win a playoff game. Judge meanwhile…
RE: RE: This is going to be a fun game  
montanagiant : 12/5/2021 6:08 pm : link
In comment 15482423 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15482420 montanagiant said:


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Especially the comments after the game



425 kickoff? Visiting cousin in Maine? Yeah, I will be sauced by kickoff.

LMAO...I'm with you brother!
Acid  
cosmicj : 12/5/2021 6:08 pm : link
You’re probably right but in terms of QB prospects to look at, he’s probably one of the most interesting available guys. Kurt Warner was in the arena league and look who WFT is starting. So why not?
We could use Fassel's  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/5/2021 6:08 pm : link
beady eyed sweaty lipped weasel cunning, not play off 8 yards on 3rd and 2.
Yeah let's see a 6'2 non mobile QB  
larryflower37 : 12/5/2021 6:13 pm : link
With arm strength concerns.
This should end well.
RE: Acid  
BigBlueJ : 12/5/2021 6:13 pm : link
In comment 15482435 cosmicj said:
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You’re probably right but in terms of QB prospects to look at, he’s probably one of the most interesting available guys. Kurt Warner was in the arena league and look who WFT is starting. So why not?


Both Kurt and Heinke have NFL arms.
Fromm is likely not  
Breeze_94 : 12/5/2021 6:19 pm : link
Going to save the day. Don’t get your hopes up
RE: Yeah let's see a 6'2 non mobile QB  
montanagiant : 12/5/2021 6:20 pm : link
In comment 15482445 larryflower37 said:
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With arm strength concerns.
This should end well.

There were a couple threads talking him all up to the point of absurdity so this should be very interesting come Sunday
Weak arm or not  
GiantTuff1 : 12/5/2021 6:22 pm : link
If he's not a robot that might present an upgrade.

They need someone competent to see if this offense is salvageable too.

We keep talking about players, but the coaching staff also need to evaluate their own offense to see if that should be altered as well.
vs. Chargers  
dpandri : 12/5/2021 6:27 pm : link
Joey Bosa went out today with a head injury in the 3Q....Fromm should pray he does not play next week....
RE: RE: Yeah let's see a 6'2 non mobile QB  
larryflower37 : 12/5/2021 6:28 pm : link
In comment 15482465 montanagiant said:
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In comment 15482445 larryflower37 said:


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With arm strength concerns.
This should end well.


There were a couple threads talking him all up to the point of absurdity so this should be very interesting come Sunday

He ran the slowest 40 time for a QB at 5+
He is at best with a clean pocket a game manager probably the worst possible option for this team right now.
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He should  
Les in TO : 12/5/2021 6:31 pm : link
Take out some extra insurance playing behind this terrible line.
RE: I'm calling it now  
FStubbs : 12/5/2021 6:33 pm : link
In comment 15482344 Eric from BBI said:
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after next week, the chorus will be for Brian Lewerke.

I joke. Kind of.


Nope, at this point if Jones can't go, you start Fromm every single game and see if he's a lottery ticket.
Davis Webb was ahead of Fromm  
BigBlueNH : 12/5/2021 6:34 pm : link
on the Bills. If Fromm was any good, that would be highly unlikely. Fromm + this OL should be an absolute disaster.
RE: RE: RE: Yeah let's see a 6'2 non mobile QB  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2021 6:39 pm : link
In comment 15482490 larryflower37 said:
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In comment 15482465 montanagiant said:


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In comment 15482445 larryflower37 said:


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With arm strength concerns.
This should end well.


There were a couple threads talking him all up to the point of absurdity so this should be very interesting come Sunday


He ran the slowest 40 time for a QB at 5+
He is at best with a clean pocket a game manager probably the worst possible option for this team right now. Draft profile - ( New Window )


Queue the he can't be worse than Jones crew. He can be. Just like Glennon. This team is an absolute dumpster fire.
RE: Fromm  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 6:46 pm : link
In comment 15482431 AcidTest said:
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couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.


A few things.

I agree that Fromm has physical limitations. Which is why I thought he would be a late round pick in 2020.

Are you surprised he didn't beat out Trubisky? Bills got a competent back-up for a cheap $2.5M contract.

if both Glennon and Jones are out  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/5/2021 6:53 pm : link
the Giants are going to have to sign another QB to back up Fromm
What  
noro9 : 12/5/2021 6:57 pm : link
A absolute fucking disaster this team is.
This site is getting ridiculous  
DonQuixote : 12/5/2021 6:58 pm : link
I've been here for a quarter century or so and I have never seen it so reactionary. Not sure why we ban political threads and not Daniel Jones threads. What's the difference?
RE: RE: Fromm  
AcidTest : 12/5/2021 7:02 pm : link
In comment 15482557 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15482431 AcidTest said:


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couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.



A few things.

I agree that Fromm has physical limitations. Which is why I thought he would be a late round pick in 2020.

Are you surprised he didn't beat out Trubisky? Bills got a competent back-up for a cheap $2.5M contract.


Yes. Fromm was drafted in 2020. If he had shown anything, the Bills would not have signed Trubisky and therefore saved his $2.5 million. But the bigger concern is that he couldn't beat out Webb.

It's all moot. He's going to play. Let's see what he's got.
RE: if both Glennon and Jones are out  
AcidTest : 12/5/2021 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15482586 gidiefor said:
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the Giants are going to have to sign another QB to back up Fromm


They've got Lewerke.
With this Oline!!  
Simms11 : 12/5/2021 7:05 pm : link
Fromm could get sacked like 10 times next week and throw 4-5 picks! This could get extremely ugly......I’m not so sure I want to watch anyway. It’s just downright painful right now.
RE: RE: RE: Fromm  
bw in dc : 12/5/2021 7:07 pm : link
In comment 15482608 AcidTest said:
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Yes. Fromm was drafted in 2020. If he had shown anything, the Bills would not have signed Trubisky and therefore saved his $2.5 million. But the bigger concern is that he couldn't beat out Webb.

It's all moot. He's going to play. Let's see what he's got.


Fair enough.

I agree - let's see what he's got.
Someone told me last week that  
Bill in UT : 12/5/2021 7:10 pm : link
the Giants' medical staff are all from the Hospital for Special Surgery, or some such. There's not a specialist in that group? Really, it's just the same bullshit year after year from the team doctors.
RE: RE: Feels like a benching of Jones.  
SirLoinOfBeef : 12/5/2021 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15482424 joeinpa said:
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In comment 15482410 SirLoinOfBeef said:


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Covered up in an injury. Maybe he's hurt, but maybe let's see somebody else before I get fired.- Coaches.



Do you really think there is an actual possibility that Jones’ injury is not legit!

Yikes!


I don't think Jones has given anyone on the staff enough confidence he's the guy.

Like I said, he may be injured, but it's the severity that I question.

Why not try someone else, can't get that much worse?
Listen to ourselves . . .  
Andrew in Austin : 12/5/2021 7:27 pm : link
We are all basically realizing our likely best option was Jones, who was terrible. We also realize we have a backup quarterback who *should* take out insurance behind our horrific Offensive Line.

We will need 3 - 5 years to rebuild at this rate. At that point, most of our potential "good" players will age out. We really should just be stockpiling draft picks at this point.

What a horrific season.
Jones doesn’t have a real injury and  
Jimmy Googs : 12/5/2021 8:52 pm : link
Glennon is fine too. Fromm is being set up as a patsy.

Conspiracies...
RE: RE: RE: Fromm  
upnyg : 12/5/2021 9:16 pm : link
In comment 15482608 AcidTest said:
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In comment 15482557 bw in dc said:


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In comment 15482431 AcidTest said:


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couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.



A few things.

I agree that Fromm has physical limitations. Which is why I thought he would be a late round pick in 2020.

Are you surprised he didn't beat out Trubisky? Bills got a competent back-up for a cheap $2.5M contract.




Yes. Fromm was drafted in 2020. If he had shown anything, the Bills would not have signed Trubisky and therefore saved his $2.5 million. But the bigger concern is that he couldn't beat out Webb.

It's all moot. He's going to play. Let's see what he's got.

The Bills like Webb as a player/coach. Ive read that they like him with Allen in the QB room. Not sure it was because he's better than Fromm or not. Just better at preparing Allen.
Who gives a fuck if he sucks?  
Matt M. : 12/5/2021 10:10 pm : link
What is it going to do, wreck our season?

I expect him to suck, but want to see for myself in case there's a glimmer of hope.
RE: Fromm  
bradshaw44 : 12/5/2021 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15482431 AcidTest said:
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couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.


Nobody expects anything. But we hope for a miracle. Never know, there is always that 1% chance he’s just a gamer and he comes out and lights it up like a Christmas tree.

As Lloyd Christmas said, “So you’re saying there’s a chance?!?!?”…
RE: Who gives a fuck if he sucks?  
Scooter185 : 12/5/2021 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15483026 Matt M. said:
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What is it going to do, wreck our season?

I expect him to suck, but want to see for myself in case there's a glimmer of hope.


They either catch somw lightning in a bottle or further solidify their draft position

Considering the season is toast there's no real downside
Why not Lewerke?  
Joey in VA : 12/5/2021 10:42 pm : link
He's mobile, he knows more about the offense, and he's a little chubby, getting clobbered should not kill him.
Jones is hurt  
Producer : 12/5/2021 10:51 pm : link
but this also feels like they want to find somebody else.

Just play Fromm  
Jimmy Googs : 12/5/2021 10:59 pm : link
He’ll get killed but if he does ok then at least it will be a good story.

Lord what a mess. Even I couldn’t believe they could play and coach this poorly.

Where are the Defenders of the Faith now...hello?
I could be wrong but this seems  
larryflower37 : 12/6/2021 12:02 am : link
Like the worst possible pickup for the situation/offense we are in .
Signing a non-mobile QB with a weak arm to place behind this line and no running game, screams poor choice.
Hate to pile on DG and Judge but there wasn't a better choice somewhere out there?
Toney will probably be playing QB by the 3rd quarter.
RE: Jones is hurt  
SirLoinOfBeef : 12/6/2021 10:47 am : link
In comment 15483102 Producer said:
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but this also feels like they want to find somebody else.


I agree. It can be both.
Watching Fromm at Georgia, my opinion wasn't very high  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/6/2021 10:49 am : link
reminds me of Danny Wuerfful. That being said, I'm not going to continue to trash some 22 yr old kid working his ass off. Good luck this week Jake, you're going to need it.
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