hasn't Daniel Jones ALREADY been evaluated by a specialist?
Who cares
It's actually kind of important, that the starting QB had to wait over a week to get seen by a specialist for a potentially serious neck injury. Organizational incompetence also helped ruin Jones
hasn't Daniel Jones ALREADY been evaluated by a specialist?
Who cares
It's actually kind of important, that the starting QB had to wait over a week to get seen by a specialist for a potentially serious neck injury. Organizational incompetence also helped ruin Jones
It is up to Jones's camp and really Jones to do that. Giants cannot force Jones to see the specialist they can only clear him or not.
hasn't Daniel Jones ALREADY been evaluated by a specialist?
Seriously.
Judge's answers on Jones were strange last week too. The beats were calling Judge out on being so forthcoming about ruling Jones out and he responded "well maybe I'm just in a funny mood"...
I know everyone loves a good conspiracy, but are they lying about the injuries to try new QB's?
Both QB's finished the games and then suddenly are too hurt to play the following week.
It would seem to me if you want to try a new QB who just got here that ruling out the other guys right away would help Fromm get all the reps and prepare to succeed -- as unlikely as that is.
but it doesn't leave me sunny with optimism that Fromm has been on their practice squad since the start of last season and nobody thought about signing him until last week.
I think if the Bills really thought they had something there, they would've elevated him long ago, if only as insurance for Josh Allen
couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.
I know what you mean but do you realize what a massive coaching upgrade Jim Fassel would be? Fassel coached a team with a good defense and Danny Kannell starting at QB to almost win a playoff game. Judge meanwhile…
You’re probably right but in terms of QB prospects to look at, he’s probably one of the most interesting available guys. Kurt Warner was in the arena league and look who WFT is starting. So why not?
You’re probably right but in terms of QB prospects to look at, he’s probably one of the most interesting available guys. Kurt Warner was in the arena league and look who WFT is starting. So why not?
There were a couple threads talking him all up to the point of absurdity so this should be very interesting come Sunday
He ran the slowest 40 time for a QB at 5+
He is at best with a clean pocket a game manager probably the worst possible option for this team right now. Draft profile - ( New Window )
There were a couple threads talking him all up to the point of absurdity so this should be very interesting come Sunday
He ran the slowest 40 time for a QB at 5+
He is at best with a clean pocket a game manager probably the worst possible option for this team right now. Draft profile - ( New Window )
Queue the he can't be worse than Jones crew. He can be. Just like Glennon. This team is an absolute dumpster fire.
couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.
A few things.
I agree that Fromm has physical limitations. Which is why I thought he would be a late round pick in 2020.
Are you surprised he didn't beat out Trubisky? Bills got a competent back-up for a cheap $2.5M contract.
I've been here for a quarter century or so and I have never seen it so reactionary. Not sure why we ban political threads and not Daniel Jones threads. What's the difference?
couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.
A few things.
I agree that Fromm has physical limitations. Which is why I thought he would be a late round pick in 2020.
Are you surprised he didn't beat out Trubisky? Bills got a competent back-up for a cheap $2.5M contract.
Yes. Fromm was drafted in 2020. If he had shown anything, the Bills would not have signed Trubisky and therefore saved his $2.5 million. But the bigger concern is that he couldn't beat out Webb.
It's all moot. He's going to play. Let's see what he's got.
Fromm could get sacked like 10 times next week and throw 4-5 picks! This could get extremely ugly......I’m not so sure I want to watch anyway. It’s just downright painful right now.
Yes. Fromm was drafted in 2020. If he had shown anything, the Bills would not have signed Trubisky and therefore saved his $2.5 million. But the bigger concern is that he couldn't beat out Webb.
It's all moot. He's going to play. Let's see what he's got.
the Giants' medical staff are all from the Hospital for Special Surgery, or some such. There's not a specialist in that group? Really, it's just the same bullshit year after year from the team doctors.
We are all basically realizing our likely best option was Jones, who was terrible. We also realize we have a backup quarterback who *should* take out insurance behind our horrific Offensive Line.
We will need 3 - 5 years to rebuild at this rate. At that point, most of our potential "good" players will age out. We really should just be stockpiling draft picks at this point.
couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.
A few things.
I agree that Fromm has physical limitations. Which is why I thought he would be a late round pick in 2020.
Are you surprised he didn't beat out Trubisky? Bills got a competent back-up for a cheap $2.5M contract.
Yes. Fromm was drafted in 2020. If he had shown anything, the Bills would not have signed Trubisky and therefore saved his $2.5 million. But the bigger concern is that he couldn't beat out Webb.
It's all moot. He's going to play. Let's see what he's got.
The Bills like Webb as a player/coach. Ive read that they like him with Allen in the QB room. Not sure it was because he's better than Fromm or not. Just better at preparing Allen.
couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.
Nobody expects anything. But we hope for a miracle. Never know, there is always that 1% chance he’s just a gamer and he comes out and lights it up like a Christmas tree.
As Lloyd Christmas said, “So you’re saying there’s a chance?!?!?”…
Like the worst possible pickup for the situation/offense we are in .
Signing a non-mobile QB with a weak arm to place behind this line and no running game, screams poor choice.
Hate to pile on DG and Judge but there wasn't a better choice somewhere out there?
Toney will probably be playing QB by the 3rd quarter.
reminds me of Danny Wuerfful. That being said, I'm not going to continue to trash some 22 yr old kid working his ass off. Good luck this week Jake, you're going to need it.
Good for the kid. Go get em.
No kidding.
Hopefully he starts the last 5 games.
I joke. Kind of.
Hopefully he starts the last 5 games.
Agreed. I don’t get people resisting this. There is nothing to lose, just look at Heinicke for WFT.
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hasn't Daniel Jones ALREADY been evaluated by a specialist?
Who cares
HIs family.
4-13. Book it.
I joke. Kind of.
That would be fine too. The unknown is better than the known garbage.
It's a pathetic state of affairs right now. Absolutely pathetic.
This season feels a lot like 2003.
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hasn't Daniel Jones ALREADY been evaluated by a specialist?
Who cares
It's actually kind of important, that the starting QB had to wait over a week to get seen by a specialist for a potentially serious neck injury. Organizational incompetence also helped ruin Jones
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after next week, the chorus will be for Brian Lewerke.
I joke. Kind of.
That would be fine too. The unknown is better than the known garbage.
It's a pathetic state of affairs right now. Absolutely pathetic.
This season feels a lot like 2003.
I think it's worse. In 2003 we at least had Jeremy Shockey to provide entertainment
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hasn't Daniel Jones ALREADY been evaluated by a specialist?
Who cares
It's actually kind of important, that the starting QB had to wait over a week to get seen by a specialist for a potentially serious neck injury. Organizational incompetence also helped ruin Jones
It is up to Jones's camp and really Jones to do that. Giants cannot force Jones to see the specialist they can only clear him or not.
One other comment about DJ's neck injury or what the Giants call a "strain" : Why wasn't he scheduled for a specialist visit last week.
Even the Giants medical staff sucks....
Seriously.
Judge's answers on Jones were strange last week too. The beats were calling Judge out on being so forthcoming about ruling Jones out and he responded "well maybe I'm just in a funny mood"...
I know everyone loves a good conspiracy, but are they lying about the injuries to try new QB's?
Both QB's finished the games and then suddenly are too hurt to play the following week.
It would seem to me if you want to try a new QB who just got here that ruling out the other guys right away would help Fromm get all the reps and prepare to succeed -- as unlikely as that is.
And ruin what? His precious .300 neighborhood record?
Jones stinks. Glennon stinks.
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after next week, the chorus will be for Brian Lewerke.
I joke. Kind of.
That would be fine too. The unknown is better than the known garbage.
It's a pathetic state of affairs right now. Absolutely pathetic.
This season feels a lot like 2003.
It's not like 2003 but will start to be with Fromm and Leweke starting.
I joke. Kind of.
I think you are missing the point. Consider this an open try-out for the QB position. So why wouldn't you want to see different players like Fromm?
We're not going to the playoffs and, if healthy, who in their right mind wants to see Jones anymore?
Because we are incompetent from the head on down?
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after next week, the chorus will be for Brian Lewerke.
I joke. Kind of.
That would be fine too. The unknown is better than the known garbage.
It's a pathetic state of affairs right now. Absolutely pathetic.
This season feels a lot like 2003.
We are definitely in Jesse Palmer territory.
Fromm is decent enough looking to be the next Bachelor too.
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after next week, the chorus will be for Brian Lewerke.
I joke. Kind of.
I think you are missing the point. Consider this an open try-out for the QB position. So why wouldn't you want to see different players like Fromm?
We're not going to the playoffs and, if healthy, who in their right mind wants to see Jones anymore?
His family.
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after next week, the chorus will be for Brian Lewerke.
I joke. Kind of.
I think you are missing the point. Consider this an open try-out for the QB position. So why wouldn't you want to see different players like Fromm?
We're not going to the playoffs and, if healthy, who in their right mind wants to see Jones anymore?
His family.
I'm sure Fromm's family wants to see him play, too.
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after next week, the chorus will be for Brian Lewerke.
I joke. Kind of.
I think you are missing the point. Consider this an open try-out for the QB position. So why wouldn't you want to see different players like Fromm?
Here's what I think you don't get. Those guys are sub NFL talent most likely who are going to get their doors blown of playing behind this talent.
How in the world is that an open tryout? There's zero tryout here. Sounds like a suicide mission.
I know it's Georgia and they are loaded with talent but at least he accomplished this at some level of football.
No way..
I wish it were 03. This team seems more dire.
The 02 team made the playoffs after all.
I joke. Kind of.
It's not funny.
I think if the Bills really thought they had something there, they would've elevated him long ago, if only as insurance for Josh Allen
425 kickoff? Visiting cousin in Maine? Yeah, I will be sauced by kickoff.
Do you really think there is an actual possibility that Jones’ injury is not legit!
Yikes!
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Especially the comments after the game
425 kickoff? Visiting cousin in Maine? Yeah, I will be sauced by kickoff.
LMAO...I'm with you brother!
This should end well.
Both Kurt and Heinke have NFL arms.
This should end well.
There were a couple threads talking him all up to the point of absurdity so this should be very interesting come Sunday
They need someone competent to see if this offense is salvageable too.
We keep talking about players, but the coaching staff also need to evaluate their own offense to see if that should be altered as well.
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With arm strength concerns.
This should end well.
There were a couple threads talking him all up to the point of absurdity so this should be very interesting come Sunday
He ran the slowest 40 time for a QB at 5+
He is at best with a clean pocket a game manager probably the worst possible option for this team right now.
Draft profile - ( New Window )
I joke. Kind of.
Nope, at this point if Jones can't go, you start Fromm every single game and see if he's a lottery ticket.
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With arm strength concerns.
This should end well.
There were a couple threads talking him all up to the point of absurdity so this should be very interesting come Sunday
He ran the slowest 40 time for a QB at 5+
He is at best with a clean pocket a game manager probably the worst possible option for this team right now. Draft profile - ( New Window )
Queue the he can't be worse than Jones crew. He can be. Just like Glennon. This team is an absolute dumpster fire.
A few things.
I agree that Fromm has physical limitations. Which is why I thought he would be a late round pick in 2020.
Are you surprised he didn't beat out Trubisky? Bills got a competent back-up for a cheap $2.5M contract.
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couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.
A few things.
I agree that Fromm has physical limitations. Which is why I thought he would be a late round pick in 2020.
Are you surprised he didn't beat out Trubisky? Bills got a competent back-up for a cheap $2.5M contract.
Yes. Fromm was drafted in 2020. If he had shown anything, the Bills would not have signed Trubisky and therefore saved his $2.5 million. But the bigger concern is that he couldn't beat out Webb.
It's all moot. He's going to play. Let's see what he's got.
They've got Lewerke.
Yes. Fromm was drafted in 2020. If he had shown anything, the Bills would not have signed Trubisky and therefore saved his $2.5 million. But the bigger concern is that he couldn't beat out Webb.
It's all moot. He's going to play. Let's see what he's got.
Fair enough.
I agree - let's see what he's got.
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Covered up in an injury. Maybe he's hurt, but maybe let's see somebody else before I get fired.- Coaches.
Do you really think there is an actual possibility that Jones’ injury is not legit!
Yikes!
I don't think Jones has given anyone on the staff enough confidence he's the guy.
Like I said, he may be injured, but it's the severity that I question.
Why not try someone else, can't get that much worse?
We will need 3 - 5 years to rebuild at this rate. At that point, most of our potential "good" players will age out. We really should just be stockpiling draft picks at this point.
What a horrific season.
Conspiracies...
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couldn't beat out Trubisky or Davis Webb, and as someone said, nobody else signed him off of the Bills PS.His arm is also weak by NFL standards and he's been with the team for less than a week. Fine. Let's see him. But I expect nothing.
A few things.
I agree that Fromm has physical limitations. Which is why I thought he would be a late round pick in 2020.
Are you surprised he didn't beat out Trubisky? Bills got a competent back-up for a cheap $2.5M contract.
Yes. Fromm was drafted in 2020. If he had shown anything, the Bills would not have signed Trubisky and therefore saved his $2.5 million. But the bigger concern is that he couldn't beat out Webb.
It's all moot. He's going to play. Let's see what he's got.
The Bills like Webb as a player/coach. Ive read that they like him with Allen in the QB room. Not sure it was because he's better than Fromm or not. Just better at preparing Allen.
I expect him to suck, but want to see for myself in case there's a glimmer of hope.
Nobody expects anything. But we hope for a miracle. Never know, there is always that 1% chance he’s just a gamer and he comes out and lights it up like a Christmas tree.
As Lloyd Christmas said, “So you’re saying there’s a chance?!?!?”…
I expect him to suck, but want to see for myself in case there's a glimmer of hope.
They either catch somw lightning in a bottle or further solidify their draft position
Considering the season is toast there's no real downside
Lord what a mess. Even I couldn’t believe they could play and coach this poorly.
Where are the Defenders of the Faith now...hello?
Signing a non-mobile QB with a weak arm to place behind this line and no running game, screams poor choice.
Hate to pile on DG and Judge but there wasn't a better choice somewhere out there?
Toney will probably be playing QB by the 3rd quarter.
I agree. It can be both.