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This is the first Giants team I just don't like

jvm52106 : 12/5/2021 7:00 pm
Even a little bit. There just isn't one thing you can hang your hat on as fan. There isn't one player, one group, a style of play or a coach on this team that draws your attention or gives you any hope.

I think there is some talent here, some, but the play style, the identity of the team is just cutesy coach speak, a sort of amorphous blob of a scheme that does nothing to inspire, nothing to take a game over.

Week after week we March out there, and display the same ineptitude we did last week, the week before, the month before- hell back to training camp.. Yet our coaches speak of building the right way, doing things repetively,do things to build and grow, then talking about seeing those things after another demoralizing loss, another week where TDs seem like SB appearances- few and far between with a lot struggle and needing some like!

I am beyond mad, beyond frustrated, this organization is a joke and it is time to sweep clean the stench of the last 6 years away and starting clean with a new outside view and plan- GM, Coach and anything they want to do....
Here is the thing  
HewlettGiant : 12/5/2021 7:07 pm : link
Losing organizations keep firing coaches every 2 years rinse and repeat.

Frankly I want judge out of here, I see no progress and no sense that things are getting turned around, but I have zero faith in those who will be doing the hiring.


jvm52106  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/5/2021 7:09 pm : link
Fans on BBI said the same thing in 2017 and 2019. I vividly remember these posts.

Fans hate teams that lose.
2017 team had a bunch of players who flat out quit.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2021 7:11 pm : link
No quit in this bunch, just high levels of suck.
RE: jvm52106  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2021 7:12 pm : link
In comment 15482625 Eric from BBI said:
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Fans on BBI said the same thing in 2017 and 2019. I vividly remember these posts.

Fans hate teams that lose.


So we have a lot of hate.
RE: jvm52106  
jvm52106 : 12/5/2021 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15482625 Eric from BBI said:
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Fans on BBI said the same thing in 2017 and 2019. I vividly remember these posts.

Fans hate teams that lose.


I didn't. At the time Barkley seemed like a guy we could build around. Jones looked like he had promise- 24 TD passes but this, this is different. We just don't do anything. Our defense is a group of pieces but God only knows what your overall scheme is. We just are VANILLA all around!!!! Judge is over his head and his arrogance is only exceeded by his lack of success..
I've hated the  
M.S. : 12/5/2021 7:15 pm : link

2017-2021 teams.
I will always love the Giants  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2021 7:17 pm : link
but I agree that this iteration of the team isn’t fun to root for. Too many guys missing time, too many high draft picks and big time free agents underperforming and too many guys making mental mistakes over and over again.
The vast majority of skill players  
Ike#88 : 12/5/2021 7:22 pm : link
always hurt on a regular basis. Touchdowns are like a mirage on the horizon in Lawrence of Arabia. Special teams making mistakes that hurt every week when the head coach is supposed to be able to coach special teams. Constant problems getting plays into the game and burning timeouts to avoid the penalty. We look like a collection of individuals not a team. Opponents are happy to see the Giants next on their schedule. Who is a star player to go see? I root for the players but man I hate the people in charge.
This isn't a team...this  
rebel yell : 12/5/2021 7:30 pm : link
is just a bunch of individual players collecting paychecks. I'll always love the Giants...but I don't particularly like any of these individual players.
They used the same strategy they used against Bridgewater against Tua  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 12/5/2021 7:55 pm : link
Why would you concede every short pass against an accurate quarterback without a big arm? They made both Bridgewater and Tua look like all time all pros as they basically completed every pass. Don't they ever learn?

And that is the defense which is head and shoulders better than the anemic offense.
I can’t agree  
Sammo85 : 12/5/2021 7:56 pm : link
Giants have had some teams that quit in prior years in Fassel and Coughlin years. It’s clear McAdoo lost team halfway though 2nd season.

I don’t hate this team, I hate how they’ve been diseased through “in house”logic and inherently mis-constructed with players that don’t seem to complement each other well in today’s NFL and don’t seem capable of playing consistently and in clutch time, winning football. Maybe that’s coaching too.
RE: I can’t agree  
jvm52106 : 12/5/2021 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15482765 Sammo85 said:
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Giants have had some teams that quit in prior years in Fassel and Coughlin years. It’s clear McAdoo lost team halfway though 2nd season.

I don’t hate this team, I hate how they’ve been diseased through “in house”logic and inherently mis-constructed with players that don’t seem to complement each other well in today’s NFL and don’t seem capable of playing consistently and in clutch time, winning football. Maybe that’s coaching too.



apathy is worse than hate.. I just cannot find anything likeable about this team. I cannot stand Judge though- complete fraud.
RE: They used the same strategy they used against Bridgewater against Tua  
MeanBunny : 12/5/2021 8:54 pm : link
The defense kept this to 3 in most of first half. How long does a defense have to be out there for offense to generate points?
The offense is not Garrett's fault. It appears it's basically BAD talent. Good on paper or college but just too stupid to function in NFL. Jones is dumb as a brick and uses his head as a battering ram. Saquon belongs in a discoteque.Whoever trains the receivers needs to be fired. Like THE TRAINER. They all get hurt in routine plays. Joe Judge is an upmanager and not putting the screws to this wasted bunch of babies. Always makes excuses for the players...and they SUCK. SUCK SUCK SUCK.we spent how much on Golliday and we can't even feed the guy the ball. Shep is a crybaby too...drop his ass in a trade.
Yep  
JaxGiant : 12/5/2021 8:55 pm : link
I'm not a fan of this incarnation of the team at all. I feel like every week I'm like "who's that guy?!" It's really hard to be a fan of any of these guy, they just don't give you much. If I had a short list of guys I like watching, I'd say in no particular order :

McKinney

Holy shit. I can't think of anyone else. That's sad. I'm looking forward to this thing getting blown up.
I go to all the games  
State Your Name : 12/5/2021 8:57 pm : link
And I don’t even watch them. I just drink and talk to people.
RE: RE: jvm52106  
Johnny5 : 12/5/2021 9:03 pm : link
In comment 15482644 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15482625 Eric from BBI said:


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Fans on BBI said the same thing in 2017 and 2019. I vividly remember these posts.

Fans hate teams that lose.



I didn't. At the time Barkley seemed like a guy we could build around. Jones looked like he had promise- 24 TD passes but this, this is different. We just don't do anything. Our defense is a group of pieces but God only knows what your overall scheme is. We just are VANILLA all around!!!! Judge is over his head and his arrogance is only exceeded by his lack of success..

Meh. If the OL didn't suck everyone would be sing a different tune here. A decent OL and some pass rush and this team is right in the mix.
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jvm52106 : 12/5/2021 9:27 pm : link
In comment 15482910 Johnny5 said:
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In comment 15482644 jvm52106 said:


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In comment 15482625 Eric from BBI said:


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Fans on BBI said the same thing in 2017 and 2019. I vividly remember these posts.

Fans hate teams that lose.



I didn't. At the time Barkley seemed like a guy we could build around. Jones looked like he had promise- 24 TD passes but this, this is different. We just don't do anything. Our defense is a group of pieces but God only knows what your overall scheme is. We just are VANILLA all around!!!! Judge is over his head and his arrogance is only exceeded by his lack of success..


Meh. If the OL didn't suck everyone would be sing a different tune here. A decent OL and some pass rush and this team is right in the mix.


No, that just isn't true..m
RE: Here is the thing  
Metnut : 12/5/2021 9:29 pm : link
In comment 15482622 HewlettGiant said:
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Losing organizations keep firing coaches every 2 years rinse and repeat.

Frankly I want judge out of here, I see no progress and no sense that things are getting turned around, but I have zero faith in those who will be doing the hiring.



Losing organizations like the Bears keep around loser coaches like Nagy for years for the sake of “continuity.” If the coach isn’t capable of doing the job then don’t waste another year, try and hire a good coach.

Lots of teams turn things around quick in the NFL.
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Johnny5 : 12/5/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15482943 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15482910 Johnny5 said:


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In comment 15482644 jvm52106 said:


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In comment 15482625 Eric from BBI said:


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Fans on BBI said the same thing in 2017 and 2019. I vividly remember these posts.

Fans hate teams that lose.



I didn't. At the time Barkley seemed like a guy we could build around. Jones looked like he had promise- 24 TD passes but this, this is different. We just don't do anything. Our defense is a group of pieces but God only knows what your overall scheme is. We just are VANILLA all around!!!! Judge is over his head and his arrogance is only exceeded by his lack of success..


Meh. If the OL didn't suck everyone would be sing a different tune here. A decent OL and some pass rush and this team is right in the mix.



No, that just isn't true..m

Your opinion. I disagree. With a better pass rush and better OL play we are right in the mix. My opinion. To bad we don't have a front office that knows how to draft OL.
I don't know  
youngd1974 : 12/5/2021 11:55 pm : link
Ray Handley, Dave Brown, Kent Graham. Of course, McAdoo. I had high hopes for Judge. Thought he would turn this thing around. I thought wrong.
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