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Does it make sense to get a head start on the offseason?

Anakim : 12/5/2021 10:56 pm
Meaning, does it make sense to can Judge now and see what Graham can do? And to can Gettleman and make Kevin Abrams the interim GM? Not that I want either guy to have those respective positions, but I know ownership always look in-house.
It makes perfect sense  
blueblood : 12/5/2021 10:57 pm : link
but the Giants wont do it.
Firing Dave now provides the red meat the fans crave  
The_Boss : 12/5/2021 11:14 pm : link
And would give John a head start over organizations that haven’t fired their GM yet. But we all know it won’t happen.
The organization doesn't have a plan.  
larryflower37 : 12/6/2021 12:17 am : link
So anything they do is reactionary.
Gettleman/Judge should have been on thin ice to start and had someone grooming or ready to step in if things turned out poorly. If Abrams/Graham are the guys have them ready to jump in.
It's a tough business and feeling shouldn't be important.
There is nothing wrong with having young aggressive people ready to takeover.
Except this is not run like a business.
Not the Mara way  
JohnF : 12/6/2021 2:22 am : link
Plus, who from the outside would want to come here if DG gets humiliated? The only choices left after that would be people in house, which would simply prolong the suck.

The proper move would be to make Abrams the actual GM on a temporary basis behind the scene (while doing a GM search), letting DG "retire" gracefully. Yes, we all want blood, but that's not always the best way to get things done.

We know 2022 will be a disaster, so let Judge ride it out while the new GM prepares for a new coaching staff for 2023 (similar to what they did with Fassel in 2003).

You're not going to get any improvement in 2022 with a new coaching staff because of the cap and dead money restrictions, plus the fact that the rookies will need seasoning. If done right, the team could be competitive by 2025.

Then again, this presumes John Mara actually is capable of making the proper moves. That has yet to be seen.
It makes about as much sense as...  
Milton : 12/6/2021 3:20 am : link
...giving Judge and Gettleman an extension right now.
No, it does not make sense to do it now...  
EricJ : 12/6/2021 6:13 am : link
and will serve no purpose at all. The players who have not given up will absolutely do so the moment they see their coach canned. It tells them the owner has given up on them. Remember, Mara is still trying to sell the idea of attending the few remaining games.

Nothing will be accomplished by firing either guy today. There is no coach or GM who is sitting at home ready to take a job elsewhere if we do not hire him before the end of this season.

We want Mara to make the right decision... not any decision to appease the mob.
With Gettleman it does..  
Sean : 12/6/2021 7:03 am : link
Everyone knows he’s gone. He’s 19-41 as GM and has been given more than enough time. Let Judge coach the final 5 games, but start the GM search asap.
RE: With Gettleman it does..  
Mdgiantsfan : 12/6/2021 7:52 am : link
In comment 15483242 Sean said:
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Everyone knows he’s gone. He’s 19-41 as GM and has been given more than enough time. Let Judge coach the final 5 games, but start the GM search asap.


Could the team anniunce that Getts will not be retained and let him finish out the season? That would hopefully check two boxes. First letting fans know Getts is out after this season but without firing him. And secondly allowing them to start the search process without having to do so under the cover of darkness.
RE: RE: With Gettleman it does..  
Sean : 12/6/2021 7:54 am : link
In comment 15483270 Mdgiantsfan said:
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In comment 15483242 Sean said:


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Everyone knows he’s gone. He’s 19-41 as GM and has been given more than enough time. Let Judge coach the final 5 games, but start the GM search asap.



Could the team anniunce that Getts will not be retained and let him finish out the season? That would hopefully check two boxes. First letting fans know Getts is out after this season but without firing him. And secondly allowing them to start the search process without having to do so under the cover of darkness.

Sure, but I don’t see why Gettleman needs to be treated with all this respect. He’s been awful and has had more than enough time to fix it.
GM and scouts IMO  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 7:55 am : link
should go (the scouts they don't plan to keep at least), it drives me crazy that teams keep those roles in place until after the draft.

No one will convince me that this is a good practice for any reason.

Coach, not sure it will matter unless by making Graham the HC it could somehow get the Giants compensation from his new team (assuming someone else wants him as HC)
Sorry, after Graham's  
section125 : 12/6/2021 8:37 am : link
performance yesterday I wouldn't hire him either. That end of 2nd qtr sequence was embarrassing. Sitting back and letting Tua dink and dunk down the field before half time was a killer(well one of them).
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