Do the Giants win another game?

Maybe both. But they'd have to get Jones back for that.

shot we have is Chicago.

but they will

performance with Jones out, so they better win some games. Even though they shouldn't. Would love to get ahead of the Jets.

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we've already faced the Rams.

WFT in a meaningless game at the end of the season is no great bet either. I’m not saying the Giants will, should or possibly even could beat either of those teams at this point, but those two games are the easy ones to choose for a fluke win

ain’t beating WFT.

that's the only possible W I see left on the schedule. Could possibly steal one from WFT, which likely will happen since it'll probably ruin our draft pick, costing us Evan Neal, and fucking up the future some more.

if he's out against WFT, chalk that up as a loss

Cares?

And will be highly motivated. We have a chance against Chicago and then if WFT is eliminated, that wk 17 game. 5-12 is likely outcome.

and maybe WFT. I would LOVE to beat the Eagles again. Followed closely by Dallas, but that would most likely mean JJ would stick around and after yesterdays lost I am convinced he is not a good HC, at least not at this point in his life.

If Jones plays then yes they'll win games and probably would have won yesterday. I think Glennon was the obvious problem yesterday. If Glennon has to play out the rest of the season I can see them losing out. Who knows if Fromm is any better

In comment 15483347 bronxct1 said:

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If Jones plays then yes they'll win games and probably would have won yesterday. I think Glennon was the obvious problem yesterday. If Glennon has to play out the rest of the season I can see them losing out. Who knows if Fromm is any better

Fromm was probably a week or two away from punching movie tickets.

debacle, they will not win another game.

Are not the future, which makes the games more meaningless to me; to say nothing of the high probability that neither is the Online from rt. Tackle to left guard

I ve reached the pt in the season where losses won’t bother me because of better draft capital. However, against the Eagles and Dallas I will be invested in hoping for wins.

ThaT changes for me if Jones comes back, I still view him as a possibility for the future.

Please Terps and the usual crowd, no need to tell me how wrong I am, that message has been received loud and clear.

To Sean, hard to believe they won’t win another game, but right now you d have to acknowledge it s a possibility.

just enough to hurt their draft position. Personally I think Judge is coming back no matter what. But I hope that's not true. What top talent GM candidate wants a GM job with no authority over the coaching staff and one of the owners with the title SR VP Player Personnel and his nephew co 2nd in command of personnel.

Probably not.

4-13 sounds about right.

In comment 15483361 arniefez said:

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just enough to hurt their draft position. Personally I think Judge is coming back no matter what. But I hope that's not true. What top talent GM candidate wants a GM job with no authority over the coaching staff and one of the owners with the title SR VP Player Personnel and his nephew co 2nd in command of personnel.

Scott Pioli will.

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that would not hurt their draft position. Whoever loses that game beneifts the Giants since they have both team's picks in the first round

none of those teams are that good. Bears stink like us, we've already beaten Philly, WTF is beatable as our the Chargers (very in and out team), and the Cowboys we usually always play tough no matter what. We could also lose them all, we are that kind of team,

All this assumes we get Jones back, if not then we could lose them all for sure

In comment 15483369 Sean said:

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In comment 15483361 arniefez said: Quote: just enough to hurt their draft position. Personally I think Judge is coming back no matter what. But I hope that's not true. What top talent GM candidate wants a GM job with no authority over the coaching staff and one of the owners with the title SR VP Player Personnel and his nephew co 2nd in command of personnel. Scott Pioli will.

True. But if I had to bet, I'd say Judge will go.

we have to play chicago

maybe we can end that game in a tie

those top 5 draft picks, and starting pushing DG and his staff out the door.

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those top 5 draft picks, and starting pushing DG and his staff out the door.

If the remaining slate goes as poorly as this past week do you think there is a chance Judge is let go? I feel they'll look for any reason to keep him.

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none of those teams are that good. Bears stink like us, we've already beaten Philly, WTF is beatable as our the Chargers (very in and out team), and the Cowboys we usually always play tough no matter what. We could also lose them all, we are that kind of team, All this assumes we get Jones back, if not then we could lose them all for sure

Dallas will be playing for either #1 seed or a home playoff berth. No chance they beat Dallas.

The defense is pretty good and they have some weapons. Count me as one who does want to see Jones succeed. Of all the problems on this team he is down the list of importance. And if the Giants don't fix the OL before getting a new QB...it will be rinse and repeat.

In comment 15483376 LTIsTheGreatest said:

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that would not hurt their draft position. Whoever loses that game beneifts the Giants since they have both team's picks in the first round

we don't know that yet. it could cause a team to jump ahead of us.

Especially if Jones doesn’t come back this year, which to me seems likely he’s done.

What a disaster this has become. I’m typically an optimistic fan/person but I’m shot with this team. Hopefully, somehow, this ship starts to get righted during the off-season.

In comment 15483402 j_rud said:

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In comment 15483398 JonC said: Quote: those top 5 draft picks, and starting pushing DG and his staff out the door. If the remaining slate goes as poorly as this past week do you think there is a chance Judge is let go? I feel they'll look for any reason to keep him.

If they continue with the half measures as expected, no. First hurdle is get get DG and Abrams out of there, and that might prove to be too much for Mara to pull the trigger.

last 3 opponents. Ending the season with a 5-12 record.

5-12 season, which was on the heels of a
6-10 season, which was on the heels of a
4-12 season, which was on the heels of a
5-11 season, which was on the heels of a
3-13 season.

Who here has written a post at any time in the last 5 years stating the arrow was pointing up?

very unlikely. With Jones, they probably struggle to one or two wins

He will be forced an entire new offensive staff most likely. That is just more patchwork half measures.

4-13 is the best thing for the franchise. JonC is right, starts with Gettleman.

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ain’t beating WFT.

If jones plays we will. And that’s not a complement to Jones. He just shows up for the skins but nobody else. Sometimes I wonder if certain uniform colors affect some QBs play. It’s very strange that he plays decent against them and pretty much nobody else.

in maintaining the status quo, they've got get DG out of there, forget about elevating Abrams and find a way out of their safe zone.

If it means cleaning house on the coaching staff, so be it, they stink too. The awful decision making, drafting, UFA usage, and gameday performances speak loudest.

Clean. House.

We've played too many games with too many key pieces missing. On top of an OL that, if healthy, is barely adequate - and it's not healthy.

I honestly wonder how much we can complain about actual offensive output when you see what we trot out there most of the time. Better argument is "how did we get here" (duh, I know).

the Giants beating the Bears to get them 5 wins.

...that's what I think happened with the New Orleans and Philly game.

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In comment 15483367 M.S. said:

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Probably not. 4-13 sounds about right.

Which probably still has the Giants picking 5th or 6th.

In comment 15483417 JonC said:

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In comment 15483402 j_rud said: Quote: In comment 15483398 JonC said: Quote: those top 5 draft picks, and starting pushing DG and his staff out the door. If the remaining slate goes as poorly as this past week do you think there is a chance Judge is let go? I feel they'll look for any reason to keep him. If they continue with the half measures as expected, no. First hurdle is get get DG and Abrams out of there, and that might prove to be too much for Mara to pull the trigger.

Chris Mara. So definitely we won't be cleaning house for real.

Sure that we win the final 2 games and use that to justify making 0 meaningful changes in the offseason

they are coming on defensively and they will run the ball down our throats. I do not even think we will beat Chicago, how sad that will be. I mean Nagy is getting run out of town and he made the playoffs in 2 of his first 3 years. Not that I think Nagy deserves to keep his job, he stinks, but that is how bad Judge is.

think Chicago is a win for us. We might win but we are NOT better than the Bears.

The Bears also have the motivation to win and hurt our draft spot (with their pick) and all of the guys on that team know they are playing for their jobs with a new staff coming in soon.

I think we lose to the Bears and we lose out the rest of the way.

try to let us win.

other then that maybe we pull off a win in Chicago. should be another boring Defense battle

We are crap

Remember those posts? Those were fun.

Hopefully they lose out, and lose huge in each one.

Time to get busy