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Draft Order and a look at the last 5 games

superspynyg : 12/6/2021 10:09 am
As I see it there are 4 teams and how they play that will determine spots 4-7 in the draft (Giants, Chicago, Jets, Seattle).

Here is my prediction for the last 5 games for each team and how the draft order will fall:

Giants Jets Chicago Seattle
@LAC L NO L GB L HOU W
DAL L Mia L Min W LAR L
Phi W Jax W Sea L Chi W
Chi W TB L NYG L DET W
Was W Buf L Min L AZ W
3-2 1-4 1-4 4-1

I do think that week 18 AZ having clinched the playoffs and top seed will sit their top stars for the playoffs.

This would leave the draft order as follows:
#4 Jets 4-13
#5 Chi 5-12 and (Pick goes to US!!!!!)
#6 Giants 7-10
#7 Sea 8-9 (Pick goes to Jets)

Based on this, I think we will have 5th and 6th picks in the draft. I also see at least one team Det or Hou taking a QB in the top 3.
It really does not matter...  
EricJ : 12/6/2021 10:10 am : link
we will have 2 picks in the top 10, so hopefully we find two quality contributors that will be on the team for a while.
wait you think  
jvm52106 : 12/6/2021 10:12 am : link
we win 3 games, two against teams in the playoff hunt???

UMMM, NO!
RE: wait you think  
Mike in NY : 12/6/2021 10:14 am : link
In comment 15483540 jvm52106 said:
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we win 3 games, two against teams in the playoff hunt???

UMMM, NO!


Even if we lost to Philly or Washington the draft order would remain the same under this scenario
Although I agree that the Giants end up with picks 5 & 6  
nyjuggernaut2 : 12/6/2021 10:17 am : link
I don't think they finish the season 3-2. 1-4 is most likely. Can't see them beating Philly again, and Washington will be playing for a playoff spot that last game.

5-12 will be the final record IMO.
Did I read this correctly?  
M.S. : 12/6/2021 10:17 am : link

You have the Giants going 3-2 over their last 5 games, ending up with a 7-10 record?

No disrespect, but there's just no way that's gonna happen.

This team may have one more win in it. They don't stand a chance against Dallas, Philly and the Chargers. They will lose to Washington and with a lot of luck they may somehow squeak by da Bears. But I doubt it.

5-12 is the very best I can see. 4-13 just as likely.
We All Want The Giants and Bears  
Bernie : 12/6/2021 10:34 am : link
to go 0-5 at this point. Since they play each other, we want the team who is line for the higher draft pick to lose. Anything beyond 1-5 for NYG would be a waste. I am hoping some how the Giants end up with a top 4 pick. Not likely, but I am hoping.
RE: We All Want The Giants and Bears  
AnnapolisMike : 12/6/2021 10:43 am : link
In comment 15483579 Bernie said:
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to go 0-5 at this point. Since they play each other, we want the team who is line for the higher draft pick to lose. Anything beyond 1-5 for NYG would be a waste. I am hoping some how the Giants end up with a top 4 pick. Not likely, but I am hoping.


I just do not agree with rooting for losses. There are alot of bad teams in the NFL who always draft fairly high and they never get any better. All that happens with a crappy finish is that you end up blowing up the team. The Giants finishing 3-2 would be awesome. Over the long term draft position does not help all that much.
Ok I am a little optomistic on the 3-2  
superspynyg : 12/6/2021 10:46 am : link
but I think that we can beat Philly Chicago and Washington. Whether we do or not is up in the air. In the past we have gone on little runs like that.
We are still going to just miss out on  
90.Cal : 12/6/2021 10:51 am : link
Thibodeaux, Hutchinson and Neal.
Giants must  
Giants : 12/6/2021 11:06 am : link
fix the OL in this draft.
I don’t see us beating anyone in our division  
beatrixkiddo : 12/6/2021 11:13 am : link
Unless Jones comes back and can provide some sort of spark for us to score points. We were lucky Philly didn’t beat us, we have the worst offense in the league, we have a team playing a different era of football that just doesn’t win games in the modern NFL. I would be very surprised to win one game let alone 2 more. Chicago is the only one I see as a possibility, that will be close.
I’m optimistic that Neal will be there when we select  
cosmicj : 12/6/2021 11:14 am : link
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RE: RE: We All Want The Giants and Bears  
Bernie : 12/6/2021 11:35 am : link
In comment 15483593 AnnapolisMike said:
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In comment 15483579 Bernie said:


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to go 0-5 at this point. Since they play each other, we want the team who is line for the higher draft pick to lose. Anything beyond 1-5 for NYG would be a waste. I am hoping some how the Giants end up with a top 4 pick. Not likely, but I am hoping.



I just do not agree with rooting for losses. There are alot of bad teams in the NFL who always draft fairly high and they never get any better. All that happens with a crappy finish is that you end up blowing up the team. The Giants finishing 3-2 would be awesome. Over the long term draft position does not help all that much.


I hate it too and it's hard to sit there and watch the team you love lose (and suck for that matter). But we are looking at a complete rebuild once again and as such, I am all for giving the new GM all of the advantages they can get. And picking early not just in the first round but in every round thereafter cannot hurt.
RE: I’m optimistic that Neal will be there when we select  
M.S. : 12/6/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15483666 cosmicj said:
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Amen to that, brother!
I wish I could comprehend your chart  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/6/2021 12:17 pm : link
but I can't

The Giants aren't going to beat the Chargers, Washington, Philly or Dallas - if Glennon or Fromm is the QB it is unlikely they will beat even Chicago
RE: Ok I am a little optomistic on the 3-2  
k2tampa : 12/6/2021 12:21 pm : link
In comment 15483604 superspynyg said:
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but I think that we can beat Philly Chicago and Washington. Whether we do or not is up in the air. In the past we have gone on little runs like that.


Sorry, even if you think they can go 3-2, you lost all credibility thinking that a 7-10 record will get the Giants the 6th pick and an 8-9 record will get the Jets the 7th pick. You must believe the Falcons, Panthers, Saints and Vikings will all win at least three games and seven teams with 6 wins will each all win at least two games. And the Jets would have strength of schedule advantage over all of them.
Beat Chicago!  
90.Cal : 12/6/2021 12:43 pm : link
Lose the rest!
RE: Beat Chicago!  
k2tampa : 12/6/2021 12:59 pm : link
In comment 15483904 90.Cal said:
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Lose the rest!


We want whichever team has the highest strength of schedule to win that game. But however unlikely, a tie would be more beneficial to keep us both picking ahead of all the 5 win teams (not just the first, but every other round), including the Jets if they beat the Dolphins and Jags.
There are 4 wins that you have to add to the bottom 4 teams  
stoneman : 12/6/2021 1:47 pm : link
since they play each other - SEA/HOU, SEA/DET, JAX/HOU, JAX/NYJ

Hopefully they don't go to DET or HOU so that JAX/NYJ/SEA all move above CHI 4 wins and SOS. Possible the CHI pick is 3 if the wins lined up and an upset or two.
RE: It really does not matter...  
NYDCBlue : 12/6/2021 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15483536 EricJ said:
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we will have 2 picks in the top 10, so hopefully we find two quality contributors that will be on the team for a while.



And with the 5th pick in the 2022 NFL draft. The NY Football Giants select:


Porter Wilson. Punter, Duke University.....
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