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NFT: Mets Chat: Mets request permission to interview Quatraro

DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 11:16 am
Extremely highly thought of. Grew up in upstate NY
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Never heard of him but you just have to say  
Metnut : 12/6/2021 11:18 am : link
he’s part of the Tampa Rays and I’m ok with it.
RE: Never heard of him but you just have to say  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 11:21 am : link
In comment 15483678 Metnut said:
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he’s part of the Tampa Rays and I’m ok with it.


He was a finalist for the job that went to Kapler
they aren't lacking for well thought of candidates  
Eric on Li : 12/6/2021 11:22 am : link
buck, bochy, espada, quatraro, ausmus. now they need to make a good decision but all of them have appeal and im sure whichever they choose will stand out for some reason that will also give us optimism they got the choice right.
For what role  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2021 11:22 am : link
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RE: For what role  
KDavies : 12/6/2021 11:24 am : link
In comment 15483691 pjcas18 said:
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manager
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 11:24 am : link
In comment 15483691 pjcas18 said:
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Managerial candidate.
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 11:25 am : link
Moustakas is likely owed too much money for it to make sense for @mets
to take him back in a deal for a SP (to lower the prospect cost) but it might be something they explore
Yankees  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 11:32 am : link
Red Sox and Blue Jays were said to be the most aggressive on Suzuki before the pause.
Minor  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 11:53 am : link
league Rule 5 will take place on Wed at 2PM
Do you mean this guy?  
Optimus-NY : 12/6/2021 11:54 am : link

"Start the reactor Quaid!"
Quatraro  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 12:07 pm : link
spent 3 seasons in Cleveland with both Lindor/Carrasco.
I wonder if there will be a final interview with Cohen for whoever  
Eric on Li : 12/6/2021 12:16 pm : link
rises out of this initial group (even if it's just 1 candidate who stands out). I think I'd guess yes and I think that's probably a good thing. Cohen has showed decent instincts so far (especially not promoting Scott early) and think it's in part because he obviously sees things through a different lens than a baseball lifer since he's not that.

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Andy Martino
@martinonyc
Expect Mets managerial interviews to begin this week -- news on permission requests and actual interviews w/the names reported Friday: Kelly, Quatraro, Espada, Showalter, Ausmus. Other names are on list and may join the party later.
Gotta say I’m glad we have a manager search  
jpkmets : 12/6/2021 12:16 pm : link
to interest us during the lockout. Got a GM and a fine start to FA. Overall it’s not so bad at all to be a Mets fan during the lockout.
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 12:25 pm : link
Interesting note from @Kevin_Goldstein
in most cases players can remain in contact with teams head physicians during the LO as they are considered private contractors #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 12:32 pm : link
@Kevin_Goldstein (formerly of @astros) FO aka with insight on Espada thinks he would be a "great" hire
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 12:50 pm : link
Derrick
12:42
Have you heard what an international draft would look like? Currently players sign ~age 16. Would players be draft eligible at that age?
Kevin Goldstein
12:43
Likely 15-20 rounds. Likely hard slots. Likely hard cap on players signed after the draft. And yes, 16.
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 1:04 pm : link
I guess Suzuki is now following @RedSox on social media? May mean something, may not.
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 2:10 pm : link
Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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There will be a minor league Rule 5 draft on Wednesday at 2 pm.

Baseball America notes that Mets right-handed pitcher Allan Winans is one of the best players available.

Winans had 1.72 ERA 0.81 WHIP between Brooklyn and Binghamton this season.
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 2:38 pm : link
Per @fangraphs @yankees are expected to sign 2 of the top 7 best international players in the world (Mayea and Arias). @mets not connected to any of the top 70. This includes players not yet able to sign (under contracts with NPB teams etc) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 2:52 pm : link
Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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Rays have given the Mets permission to interview Matt Quatraro. Sounds like it could take place tomorrow.

Quatraro has interviewed for the A's managerial opening per @TBTimes_Rays
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Mets  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 3:04 pm : link
have reached out to Showalter.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 12/6/2021 3:16 pm : link
In comment 15484125 DanMetroMan said:
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have reached out to Showalter.


Dan, what's your thinking on this. The Mets want to be data-driven. Showalter's not the type of manager to listen to tips from the office about who the play and where, is he?
Quataro  
Vanzetti : 12/6/2021 4:41 pm : link
Lack of experience would seem to be his major negative; after Rojas do they go in that direction again?
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15484153 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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have reached out to Showalter.



Dan, what's your thinking on this. The Mets want to be data-driven. Showalter's not the type of manager to listen to tips from the office about who the play and where, is he?


I personally believe "manager" to be a pretty overvalued role. A huge part of it is controlling the clubhouse and the media. James Click started his career as a part time data scientist/BP contributor, he's running the Astros, Anthopoulos is on record regard how much he learned from the Dodgers and their analytics team, we all know about the Rays and Dodgers.

Every successful team is moving towards a model where the FO provides data and "light prodding" to their manager and it's a groupthink with decision making. Showalter won't be the hire unless they feel he can work within this type of setup. They have made 36 analytics hires, and are still hiring. If they feel Buck is receptive. His quotes from 2018 seem to imply he'd be open to such a setup, if they don't think he is, he won't be the hire.


"Buck Showalter: “One thing about analytics is that we all question what we don’t understand. You need to learn, so during the spring we do Analytics for Dummies. That’s what we call it. We take our most veteran baseball people, our on-the-field lifers, and bring them upstairs to go over every analytic there is and find the [equivalent of a] .300 batting average in every one of them. We take the black cloud of unknown away from it.

“What we’ve found is that most of our veteran people go, ‘Oh, really? That’s all it is?’ They’re not demeaning it, they’re just saying, ‘Now I understand.’ Know where the .300 batting average of WAR is, and what it tells you. Just as important, what doesn’t it tell you that you have to be aware of.
Quatraro  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 4:53 pm : link
isn't even viewed as an analytics nerd. He's a long-time coach/manager who happens to be coming from a very analytics driven franchise
Dan thank u for posting that quote bc i just found the full article  
Eric on Li : 12/6/2021 5:26 pm : link
and wow does buck seem like perfect guy for this team right now. could not agree with him more re defense and the pros/cons of analytics. If they choose someone else I won't be too disappointed because the whole group seems strong and it means that person stood out from Buck in some way, but i'm really glad he's in this interview process. it seems like he's really a good fit for what this org needs.

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“The responsibility of leadership in today’s public world… Chase Utley is one of them, but it’s hard to find guys who are willing to be publicly viewed as That Guy. There’s the constant scrutiny. You say something to a teammate privately, trying to help him, or maybe constructively criticize, and if it gets out there publicly… it’s just different. Not that guys won’t do it, but there’s so much to being a major-league player that it’s hard to take on that responsibility, too. You used to have three or four of them on a team. That’s something that’s changed, the responsibility and burden of leadership.

The Manager’s Perspective: Buck Showalter on the Changing Game - ( New Window )
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 5:30 pm : link
like Ausmus the least of the names being mentioned but not so strongly that I'll be really upset. I just find him to be the least interesting/intriguing but I won't be going on a long rant about how awful the hire is if he's the pick. I reserve the right to change my tune if they hire somebody truly ridiculous (Larry Bowa? c'mon lol).
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Eric on Li : 12/6/2021 5:35 pm : link
In comment 15484410 DanMetroMan said:
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like Ausmus the least of the names being mentioned but not so strongly that I'll be really upset. I just find him to be the least interesting/intriguing but I won't be going on a long rant about how awful the hire is if he's the pick. I reserve the right to change my tune if they hire somebody truly ridiculous (Larry Bowa? c'mon lol).


Ausmus seems like a compromise candidate. if they want someone with managing experience but more youthful than buck.

wouldn't like it but wouldn't hate it.

buck imo has the highest short term upside.

highest long term upside? who knows but probably not buck just because he's older. but he's 6 years younger than Dusty and if whoever they hire lasts 6 years+ it will be a successful hire.
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15484416 Eric on Li said:
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like Ausmus the least of the names being mentioned but not so strongly that I'll be really upset. I just find him to be the least interesting/intriguing but I won't be going on a long rant about how awful the hire is if he's the pick. I reserve the right to change my tune if they hire somebody truly ridiculous (Larry Bowa? c'mon lol).



Ausmus seems like a compromise candidate. if they want someone with managing experience but more youthful than buck.

wouldn't like it but wouldn't hate it.

buck imo has the highest short term upside.

highest long term upside? who knows but probably not buck just because he's older. but he's 6 years younger than Dusty and if whoever they hire lasts 6 years+ it will be a successful hire.


Ausmus just strikes me as quite vanilla. Smart guy I'm sure (Dartmouth) but I've never really heard anybody rave about him. I'm sure he'd be fine, just wouldn't be enthusiastic about it personally.
vanilla is the exact right description of his resume  
Eric on Li : 12/6/2021 5:48 pm : link
checks all the boxes and while everyone likes vanilla there are usually better options.
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 5:52 pm : link
Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Mets have reached out to interview Astros bench coach Joe Espada. Has strong link to Billy Eppler from when they were both with Yankees. Serious contender.
so if they had to get permission on Quatraro and Espada  
Eric on Li : 12/6/2021 5:55 pm : link
i'd presume the interviews today/tomorrow were Buck + Ausmus? they don't need permission on bochy either right?

in this case it makes sense to do the experienced guys first and let them set a bar. then see if someone else exceeds that bar.
RE: so if they had to get permission on Quatraro and Espada  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 5:57 pm : link
In comment 15484452 Eric on Li said:
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i'd presume the interviews today/tomorrow were Buck + Ausmus? they don't need permission on bochy either right?

in this case it makes sense to do the experienced guys first and let them set a bar. then see if someone else exceeds that bar.


Bochy is in fact employed with the Giants, but I doubt they would need permission as his job is "special advisor" which is basically a part-time role. It's possible out of respect to the Giants, they would still ask for permission (which the Giants obviously would grant).
then logistically they do probably have to ask for permission  
Eric on Li : 12/6/2021 6:02 pm : link
i thought he still had a title there but wasn't sure. for whatever reason im not sure he seems as real of a possibility as the others but who knows.

if he wants in though can you say no to that? he won 30% of the world series last decade lol
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 6:12 pm : link
Have contacted Ausmus per Heyman
man is this search a lot less stressful than the GM  
Eric on Li : 12/6/2021 6:20 pm : link
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Jon Heyman @JonHeyman
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Mets managerial interviews begin today, though it isn’t known who had the leadoff position among candidates. GM Billy Eppler and baseball ops will conduct initial interviews. Owner Steve Cohen will get involved for final interviews.
RE: Quataro  
Mike in NY : 12/6/2021 6:27 pm : link
In comment 15484313 Vanzetti said:
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Lack of experience would seem to be his major negative; after Rojas do they go in that direction again?


The problem is outside of Bochy the only experienced manager who has had any success, although every team did better AFTER he left, is Buck Showalter. The problem I have seen with the recent Mets managers is that they did not have a feel for the game. They always seemed to either be too early or too late when making moves. You will never get it right 100% of the time, but whatever the Mets tried always seemed to backfire.
New York Giants, please take note.  
Gruber : 12/7/2021 7:32 am : link
When Gettleman finally leaves the building, do not make an in-house appointment.
I don't mind  
pjcas18 : 12/7/2021 8:09 am : link
a first time manager. if it's the right person, and obviously sometimes you don't know until you know. So I acknowledge it's a risk.

but Alex Cora, as an example, won a World Series in year 1 of being a manager. Which is why I felt like Beltran, also as an example, would be no less risky than a retread.

Thanks Dan  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/7/2021 8:26 am : link
I would have bet Buck was one of the hardliners for traditional managerial roles.
some more prospect reading (demayo)  
Eric on Li : 12/7/2021 11:37 am : link
guess it's that time of year.
Mets top 20 prospects for the 2022 season - ( New Window )
FWIW  
DanMetroMan : 12/7/2021 11:45 am : link
(and they apparently had a contentious relationship) Dan Duquette claimed Showalter ignored data given to him which was evidenced by xyz pitchers having success after they left. On the same token both Britt Ghiroli/Dan Connolly (both of whom covered the Orioles) called him the best manager they ever covered.
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DanMetroMan : 12/7/2021 11:46 am : link
Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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Only 5 Mets managerial candidates are known so far — Showalter, Ausmus, Espada, Quatraro, Kelly — but with upgraded vetting and a couple interview rounds expected, no hire is expected this week. There also could be a mystery candidate or more (unknown).
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DanMetroMan : 12/7/2021 11:48 am : link
like it's not a lock they even speak to Bochy.
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DanMetroMan : 12/7/2021 11:56 am : link
GENY Mets Report
@genymets
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NEWS: According to @martinonyc
, the #Mets are "hoping" to hire a manager by the end of the next week. #LGM
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pjcas18 : 12/7/2021 1:15 pm : link
Pat Ragazzo
@ragazzoreport
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Sources: Mets ace pitcher Max Scherzer has made it known that he prefers Buck Showalter to be the team’s next manager
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DanMetroMan : 12/7/2021 1:20 pm : link
In comment 15485441 pjcas18 said:
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Pat Ragazzo
@ragazzoreport
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Sources: Mets ace pitcher Max Scherzer has made it known that he prefers Buck Showalter to be the team’s next manager


Not a great look for Ausmus considering he actually managed Scherzer...
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DanMetroMan : 12/7/2021 1:24 pm : link
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
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Bob Geren will interview for the Mets managerial opening this week, I can confirm. @martinonyc
first reported.
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pjcas18 : 12/7/2021 1:27 pm : link
Michael Marino
@MichaelMarino37
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Source: Steve Cohen has told Billy Eppler that he wants Buck Showalter as #Mets manager. He has given Billy the ability to conduct his own search, but Billy is aware of his preference. Additionally, “At least 1 big name Mets player wants Buck and is vocal about it”.
Yikes  
DanMetroMan : 12/7/2021 1:28 pm : link
lol
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