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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2021 11:16 am
Extremely highly thought of. Grew up in upstate NY
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Nothing  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:01 pm : link
against Showalter but Dusty Baker is going to the HOF.


24 big league seasons 85+ wins 15! Times including 7 in a row at one point, 8 1st place finishes, 7 2nd place finishes Showalter 20 seasons 85+ wins 8 times, 2 1st place finishes, 4 2nd place finishes.

Baker a truly incredible career, sad he's never won a WS.
MiLB Rule 5 Draft  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:06 pm : link
about to begin. The Mets can pick up to 2 players
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:07 pm : link
hold the #13 pick
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:11 pm : link
@mets select Alex Valverde RHP (Rays AA roster) #Mets
Alex Valverde  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:17 pm : link
mostly pitched out the pen this year, can't find much in terms of recent scouting.
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:23 pm : link
Carlos Ocampo pitched exclusively out of the pen in 2021. He stuck out 67 over 47.2 innings
I preferred Dusty when they were both rumored post-beltran  
Eric on Li : 12/8/2021 2:23 pm : link
but he's obviously taken now.

Buck's 8/20 85 wins+ is probably the best or close among available managers and probably still top 5 among active.

Maddon has a pretty ridiculous 11/16 (I gave him 2 years at 84). Sciocsa had a solid 11/19. Bochy 11/25. Francona 14/21.

let's get buck to the 11+ club. and a WS.
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:25 pm : link
Jacob Resnick
@Jacob_Resnick
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Two new pitchers in the #Mets organization today, via the minor league phase of the Rule 5 Draft:

• Alex Valverde (TB), 25, 11.5 K/9 in Double-A

• Carlos Ocampo (CHC), 23, 120 Whiff+ in Low-A
Video  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:28 pm : link
of Ocampo
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:29 pm : link
@mets lose Allan Winans to the Braves
what could have been  
Eric on Li : 12/8/2021 2:29 pm : link
i guess the way things went injury wise it's hard to see a path to success but who knows.
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:30 pm : link
@mets lose RHP Tommy Wilson (son of Biff Tannen) to @Mariners
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:35 pm : link
@mets lose 2 P and add 2 P during the 2021 MiLB Rule 5 draft
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 2:43 pm : link
Showalter was in front of Eppler again on Wednesday, part of a multi-interview process that the Mets have devised for all the candidates that also includes Zoom sessions with player development, amateur scouting and sports sciences and lasts about five hours. The Mets hope to pare a group of six publicly known candidates down to two or three and conduct face-to-face interviews in New York next week that will include their demanding owner, Steve Cohen.



Eppler believes strongly in analytics and he is going to want to know his manager is not just going to give a cursory look at what is presented or distance himself from that group. He will want to know that Showalter, 66 in May, will continue to relate to today’s players; though that La Russa’s White Sox made the playoffs and Snitker’s Braves beat Baker’s Astros in the World Series is quite an endorsement that the elder set can still do this job at a high level.
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Maybe seem weird  
pjcas18 : 12/8/2021 3:00 pm : link
but after the last year, I'm more hopeful the Mets do thorough background checks on everyone than the interview process which I trust will be done professionally.

Stability means something, and getting the staff in place and the player comfortable matters. So do a thorough check so we don't have to see Showalter fired after 6 months for an email he sent in 2004.
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Mike in NY : 12/8/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15486949 DanMetroMan said:
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@mets lose RHP Tommy Wilson (son of Biff Tannen) to @Mariners



Noooooo! Not Son of Biff! Any scouting reports on the guys we selected other than solid K/9 and actually not terrible control versus what you usually find on younger age related to league arms with those K/9 totals in Minor League Rule 5. Some players with lousy ML experience got drafted too.
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15487041 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15486949 DanMetroMan said:


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@mets lose RHP Tommy Wilson (son of Biff Tannen) to @Mariners




Noooooo! Not Son of Biff! Any scouting reports on the guys we selected other than solid K/9 and actually not terrible control versus what you usually find on younger age related to league arms with those K/9 totals in Minor League Rule 5. Some players with lousy ML experience got drafted too.


Extremely limited info on both. Ocampo was 92-93 in a 2019 scouting report and reportedly has a plus slider, Valverde command issues but also a funky slider that generated k's. Nothing one seems particularly "exciting" on paper stuff wise but they missed bats so... who knows? Hadn't seen either one on any lists of guys who could be interesting and I googled for a while and didn't find really much mention of either guy so.. we'll see
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 5:33 pm : link
In comment 15486891 DanMetroMan said:
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One final name to note as a potential member of Buck Showalter's staff is ex-Met Wayne Kirby. Kirby served as Orioles 1b coach for all 8 seasons Buck managed there, and has served as an MLB 1b coach each of the last 10 seasons


Looks like Ken Rosenthal listens to me (I'm kidding) but funny timing


Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
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Former Padres and Orioles coach Wayne Kirby was unable to strike deal with Angels on coaching position, sources tell @TheAthletic
. Could be candidate to reunite with Buck Showalter if Showalter gets Mets’ job. Pitching coach Jeremy Hefner only current member of Mets’ staff.
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 5:55 pm : link
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
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Brian Butterfield, dismissed as Angels third base coach at the end of last season, would be another possibility to join a Showalter staff with the Mets. Was one of Showalter’s coaches with both the Yankees and Diamondbacks.


Worth noting that Butterfield was in fact hired by Billy Eppler, so if the idea is to give Buck SOME of his own guys, this would seemingly be an ideal spot to do so


I hope @mets
think long and hard about their 3b coach hire. DiSarcina seemed overly cautious to a fault and it's a spot where a strong hire can steal you a few runs (and wins). @mets
finished 27/30 in baserunning (not all of that was lack team speed)
Martino reporting Espada already interviewed  
Eric on Li : 12/8/2021 6:52 pm : link
so that would mean Ausmus yesterday, Espada either yesterday or earlier, Showalter and possibly Quatraro today. Geren/Kelly potentially later this week?

Process moving along seems like there should be a hire by next week.
RE: Martino reporting Espada already interviewed  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 6:53 pm : link
In comment 15487315 Eric on Li said:
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so that would mean Ausmus yesterday, Espada either yesterday or earlier, Showalter and possibly Quatraro today. Geren/Kelly potentially later this week?

Process moving along seems like there should be a hire by next week.


Geren was today as well.
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 6:57 pm : link
So only Don Kelly remains? PS this 5-hour interview process doesn't add up...

Even if it were "only" Showalter/Espada today, they spent 10hours interviewing them today? No break? And Sherman said Geren also was today


Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
#Dodgers bench coach Bob Geren also is interviewing for the #Mets managerial opening today.


Not enough hours in a day for the Mets to have spent 15 hours interviewing 3 candidates by 7 PM...
Happy  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 7:18 pm : link
with the job Eppler is doing but the narrative the Angels system is much improved... 2022 FG's list released and it's UGLY!

1 50 FV
2 45 FV
6 40+

For comparisons sake 2021 Mets list

2 55
2 50
1 45+
3 45
2 40+

And the Mets system was viewed as decent but thin... this list is AWFUL
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This  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 7:19 pm : link
is their third best prospect...

Barring an eventual lefty swing change, Vera looks more like a good utility man or low-end regular, the kind of everyday shortstop who hits near the bottom of the lineup, and he’s FV’d such that we’re projecting that outcome. He has both the athleticism and, based on opinions from outside the org, the baseball aptitude to do that. Because the below-average plate discipline also creates bust risk here, we’re more inclined to take a “believe it when we see it” approach regarding the swing change rather than an anticipatory one.

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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 7:22 pm : link

Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
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Astros bench coach Joe Espada interviewed for the Mets manager opening earlier this week, according to a source. Buck Showalter and Bob Geren went today. Brad Ausmus and Matt Quatraro are believed to have interviewed. First round will possibly wrap up Thursday with Don Kelly.


Still seems hard to believe by 7 PM they had conducted 10 hours of interviewing but it looks like one to go with Showalter the favorite.
Don  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 7:29 pm : link
Kelly is out per Sherman. So 5 candidates remain.
Conceivably  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 7:34 pm : link
the A's could push the Mets hand if the Mets truly aren't sure and the A's look to make an offer to Quatraro or Espada
RE: Don  
Eric on Li : 12/8/2021 7:35 pm : link
In comment 15487386 DanMetroMan said:
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Kelly is out per Sherman. So 5 candidates remain.


didn't wanna be the meat in a cy young sandwich?
Sure  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 7:40 pm : link
seems like this is headed toward Showalter.
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Shecky : 12/8/2021 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15487324 DanMetroMan said:
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So only Don Kelly remains? PS this 5-hour interview process doesn't add up...

Even if it were "only" Showalter/Espada today, they spent 10hours interviewing them today? No break? And Sherman said Geren also was today


Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
#Dodgers bench coach Bob Geren also is interviewing for the #Mets managerial opening today.


Not enough hours in a day for the Mets to have spent 15 hours interviewing 3 candidates by 7 PM...


They’re rotating people, ie one hour with this guy, one with another group etc. could interview four candidates in six actual hours - if that makes sense.
Like everyone, I like Buck here  
Shecky : 12/8/2021 7:52 pm : link
But mostly because I think he’d bring it in the most qualified surrounding staff. This would allow the younger guys to learn from more tours who think the game different,y. But you e got to admit, it is one impressive list of candidates
Seems  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 7:53 pm : link
like a weird way to do it but whatever works. Don't really see the need to cram that all into x days when there is nothing baseball going on but whatever works. Sure seems like it'll be Showalter, Geren is probably the wild card.
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 7:54 pm : link

Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
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Thought Don Kelly would be an interesting candidate for #Mets job. Well-regarded in industry. Was #Tigers teammates with Scherzer from 2010-14. Heard they were close. Their manager in ’14 … Brad Aumus, who is still in mix for NYM job.
Buster Olney
@Buster_ESPN
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If Buck Showalter is hired as the Mets' manager -- and within the industry, he is viewed as the heavy favorite -- it'll be interesting to see if ex-Pirate coach Joey Cora emerges as a candidate for Showalter's staff.
I  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 7:57 pm : link
don't personally find Ausmus to be that impressive. If the idea is that he got a raw deal? Sure but he's finished under .500 3/5 seasons, and if you read hiis interview with theathletic it could put you to sleep. He doesn't strike me as dynamic or outstanding. You don't hear ex-players and writers raving about him and his views on bullpen usage are antiquated aka "this guy pitches the 6th" "this guy is our 7th inning guy".
RE: Like everyone, I like Buck here  
Eric on Li : 12/8/2021 7:58 pm : link
In comment 15487423 Shecky said:
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But mostly because I think he’d bring it in the most qualified surrounding staff. This would allow the younger guys to learn from more tours who think the game different,y. But you e got to admit, it is one impressive list of candidates


Very solid group. I think I’ve talked myself into Buck or bust but I can see a case for any of them. Good to see u back sheck. Stick around, like a backup catcher grinding out year 8.
2014  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 8:03 pm : link
tigers were LOADED

Scherzer, Verlander, Porcello, Anibal Sanchez, Smyly, Price


Miggy, Kinsler, JD Martinez, Victor Martinez, Hunter, Rajai Davis, Austin Jackson

Swept first round... by Showalter's Orioles no less a mediocre roster that somehow won 96 games

Seems like one has to bend over backwards to really vouch for Ausmus as the best hire
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Talk  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 8:06 pm : link
about the opposite of what bullpen management is in 2021

“No, for me, Albie, who had a great year, his best place is in the sixth or seventh inning,” Ausmus said. “There’s really only one time we might have used him, in Game 2, and we had Sanchie.”

PASS  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 8:08 pm : link

Tigers manager Brad Ausmus always goes to the mat for his players. Even when doing so means being generous with the benefit of doubt, suspending some sense of belief or inviting the brunt of criticism on himself.




Castellanos’ miscue is hardly something to be treated in isolation. The Tigers have been a poor baserunning team overall. In fact, the club’s ineptitude on the base paths may be the biggest source of frustration, if it weren’t for the beleaguered bullpen claiming that dubious honor. In the past three seasons combined, the Tigers rank dead-last in BsR, a base-running metric that takes into account “stolen bases, caught stealing and other base running plays” according to FanGraphs. During that span from 2015-17, the Tigers BsR rating was -62.1, or 62.1 runs below average. This season, the Tigers have made 42 outs on the bases, tied for sixth-highest in the league, and five above league-average, according to Baseball Reference. There are only seven teams that rank lower in extra-bases taken percentage.

Some of that, of course, is due to a team’s personnel and lack of speed. But some of that is a result of mental errors.

“I don’t think we make too many mistakes. I think sometimes we’re a little overaggressive, sometime our speed doesn’t, you know, make up for some of the aggressiveness,” veteran outfielder Justin Upton said.
Long  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 8:09 pm : link
interview. Sounds like a nice, extremely boring man and based on other articles, something of a doormat. Puma said he's viewed as a poor tactician in todays paper as well
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Puma  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 8:11 pm : link
Brad Ausmus
Current job: Out of baseball

Strengths: The former catcher certainly has a grasp of how to handle a pitching staff and is said to have a good relationship with Max Scherzer, who pitched for the Tigers for one season with Ausmus as the manager. Ausmus led the Tigers to the postseason that year (2014) and spent three additional seasons on the job before managing the Angels in 2019.

Weaknesses: Ausmus, 52, isn’t regarded as a strong tactician and there are questions how he would handle the New York spotlight and demands that come with serving as the voice for the team. After limited success with the Tigers and Angels he would be a tough sell to the fan base.

(Worth noting Scherzer has endorsed Showalter and not his ex-Manager).
A  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 8:12 pm : link
6th unknown candidate will interview tomorrow morning per Puma
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 8:17 pm : link
lost him via MiLB Rule 5 earlier today

Roch Kubatko
@masnRoch
#orioles acquire minor league RHP Tommy Wilson from #mariners for cash considerations
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2021 8:26 pm : link

Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
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A person with knowledge of the Showalter interview today with Mets officials: "They were pretty impressed with Buck today. It went really well.
any candidate without a track record is a leap of faith  
Eric on Li : 12/8/2021 8:31 pm : link
could be alex cora could be mickey callaway. so pretty much all of them other than Buck we can read the good stuff people write but there's just no way to know.

maybe ausmus is above that since he's managed before. if you squint he's girardi-esque and being mentored by leyland isn't nothing. but again sitting next to francona didn't help callaway.

my mystery candidate guess is Farrell. I think he was mentioned earlier in the lists of names and he kind of fits what they seem to be looking for. Right age, won a WS, managed in big city, etc.
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Eric on Li : 12/8/2021 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15487480 DanMetroMan said:
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Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
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A person with knowledge of the Showalter interview today with Mets officials: "They were pretty impressed with Buck today. It went really well.


this offseason gonna double break the nightengale curse.
He gives me  
Shecky : 12/8/2021 8:54 pm : link
A Bobby V vibe. It makes too much sense for everyone for it not to be buck. Which is probably why everyone assumes he is a lock.
Morosi  
DanMetroMan : 12/9/2021 10:22 am : link
threw out Pete Walker as a potential candidate, extremely well regarded with pitchers but he would be a very, very odd fit with Hefner already here.
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DanMetroMan : 12/9/2021 11:15 am : link
One name I could 100% see @Mets bringing on as part of the FO is ex-Mets intern Jonathan Strangio. Strangio is from Long Island and previously served as one of Billy Eppler's assistant GM's with @Angels
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DanMetroMan : 12/9/2021 11:31 am : link
Jacob Resnick
@Jacob_Resnick
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The #Mets signed 23-year-old RHP Jesus Vargas to a minor league contract.

Vargas pitched five seasons in the Dodgers organization, posting a 3.65 ERA and reaching High-A in 2021.
Vargas  
DanMetroMan : 12/9/2021 11:42 am : link
peaked at #34 in the Dodgers system prior to the 2019 season, 89-92 on the FB.
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