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I wonder if JAX would trade Lawrence for DJ and some picks

Batenhorst7 : 12/6/2021 12:20 pm
I know it sounds crazy but Lawrence has not been tearing up the NFL like he did the college nation.

I'd give them Barkley as a bonus

Maybe they are a bit disallusioned
This should be good  
Jerry in_DC : 12/6/2021 12:22 pm : link
..
If they are disillusioned with Lawrence after a partial year  
Mike from Ohio : 12/6/2021 12:23 pm : link
why would they want a different highly drafted QB whose current team is disillusioned with him?

Teams that would be interested in trading for Jones would not be doing it to get a long-term answer at QB. They would be trading to get competition for their starter or a backup.
good idea for a team like gb or pitt  
hassan : 12/6/2021 12:23 pm : link
horrible idea for nyg. team needs more assets to build whole team up not less. Jones and barkley aren’t attractive assets either.
Maybe  
Big Al : 12/6/2021 12:23 pm : link
If the Giants throw in Nate Solder to sweeten the deal..
Why  
snoozy1 : 12/6/2021 12:25 pm : link
You would give them Daniel Jones and Barkley for Lawrence straight up? What have we seen from Lawrence that makes us think he's worth giving away our QB and RB for? This makes no sense.
RE: Maybe  
Batenhorst7 : 12/6/2021 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15483837 Big Al said:
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If the Giants throw in Nate Solder to sweeten the deal..


LOL
RE: Why  
MyNameIsMyName : 12/6/2021 12:26 pm : link
In comment 15483847 snoozy1 said:
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You would give them Daniel Jones and Barkley for Lawrence straight up? What have we seen from Lawrence that makes us think he's worth giving away our QB and RB for? This makes no sense.


Is this serious?
RE: Why  
snoozy1 : 12/6/2021 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15483847 snoozy1 said:
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You would give them Daniel Jones and Barkley for Lawrence straight up? What have we seen from Lawrence that makes us think he's worth giving away our QB and RB for? This makes no sense.


Sorry just saw the "and some picks" so it wouldn't be straight up. We'd be giving Jones Barkley and picks for an unproven Lawrence..?
RE: Why  
Batenhorst7 : 12/6/2021 12:28 pm : link
In comment 15483847 snoozy1 said:
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You would give them Daniel Jones and Barkley for Lawrence straight up? What have we seen from Lawrence that makes us think he's worth giving away our QB and RB for? This makes no sense.


DJ has gotten a fair trial here, so has Barkley
Neither has progressed after a stellar rookie year

Did you happen to catch a few Lawrence games in college

He was the 2nd coming of John Elway

Johnny Unitas would struggle at JAX
I love how some people  
Bleedblue10 : 12/6/2021 12:31 pm : link
Think there are any teams that would want our loser players. Especially for a QB with the talent level of Trevor Lawrence. This is real life not Madden
Are you guys drunk?  
kdog77 : 12/6/2021 12:31 pm : link
What team is going to trade the consensus #1 QB prospect in the 2021 draft for an injury prone QB, RB and RT who all have expiring contracts and mediocre to sub-par production? I don't think Giants could find a team willing to give a 7th round pick for Jones.
You are disillusioned  
JonC : 12/6/2021 12:33 pm : link
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RE: RE: Why  
Batenhorst7 : 12/6/2021 12:33 pm : link
In comment 15483853 snoozy1 said:
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In comment 15483847 snoozy1 said:


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You would give them Daniel Jones and Barkley for Lawrence straight up? What have we seen from Lawrence that makes us think he's worth giving away our QB and RB for? This makes no sense.



Sorry just saw the "and some picks" so it wouldn't be straight up. We'd be giving Jones Barkley and picks for an unproven Lawrence..?


hey Jones and Barkley are on borrowed time anyway
I didnt say 1st round picks

What have we got to lose? Jones and Barkley?
I'm gonna tell you something  
JonC : 12/6/2021 12:34 pm : link
that's very important in life, and that is negative attention is not better than no attention.
I think getting traded for Daniel Jones  
widmerseyebrow : 12/6/2021 12:34 pm : link
would shatter Lawrence's confidence.
RE: I'm gonna tell you something  
Batenhorst7 : 12/6/2021 12:38 pm : link
In comment 15483876 JonC said:
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that's very important in life, and that is negative attention is not better than no attention.


agreed but I'm serious

I think JAX can be wooed

BTW I've been to other message boards and those teams are dying to see us cut loose DJ. They blame systemic Giants disfunction for DJ's struggles
Why would Jacksonville trade  
Koffman : 12/6/2021 12:40 pm : link
their franchise QB for an unproven QB and Saquan? They already have a RB that has out performed Saquan in James Robinson and have Travis Eitienne waiting next year.
LOL  
Straw Hat : 12/6/2021 12:41 pm : link
LOL
RE: I'm gonna tell you something  
jvm52106 : 12/6/2021 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15483876 JonC said:
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that's very important in life, and that is negative attention is not better than no attention.


ha ha, LOVE THIS!
RE: RE: I'm gonna tell you something  
Mike from Ohio : 12/6/2021 12:44 pm : link
In comment 15483893 Batenhorst7 said:
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agreed but I'm serious


This is the problem with your post. It is ludicrous. JAX is giving up a guy they fear is a bust after 13 games for a guy they know is a bust after 2.5 years?
there is an old saying  
GiantsFan84 : 12/6/2021 12:45 pm : link
better to say nothing and have people think you're an idiot than to speak and remove all doubt
Throw in the rights to Barrett green  
Payasdaddy : 12/6/2021 12:47 pm : link
In case he makes a comeback
Send him to Shurmur in Denver  
90.Cal : 12/6/2021 12:47 pm : link
Ask for a 1st, accept a 2nd.
maybe thow in Ebner  
upnyg : 12/6/2021 12:51 pm : link
that would do it
the possibility exists  
Batenhorst7 : 12/6/2021 1:00 pm : link
DJ and Barkely will be sent elsewhere and re-ignite as they did as rookies

maybe the Giants team is weighing both guys down

to the guy who said LAwrence was a #1

Barkley was a #2, and Jones a #6 I believe
also throw in  
thrunthrublue : 12/6/2021 1:02 pm : link
JJ and DG.
I wonder if JAX would trade Lawrence for DJ and some picks  
M.S. : 12/6/2021 1:04 pm : link

There’s a greater chance the Giants go undefeated over the remaining five games.

And those odds are zero.
Hey I have an idea...  
EricJ : 12/6/2021 1:04 pm : link
I will trade you my bag of shit in exchange for yours. To sweeten the deal, I will throw in more shit in exchange for yours.

The next good thread  
section125 : 12/6/2021 1:07 pm : link
you start, will be your 1st.

But keep swinging away.
RE: The next good thread  
Batenhorst7 : 12/6/2021 1:12 pm : link
In comment 15483945 section125 said:
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you start, will be your 1st.

But keep swinging away.


Hey if Gettleman reads this he should get on the horn with
Jacksonville

Listen most of my posts have had 1000s of readers
if I just provide some comic relief in these dark times thats a good thing no?

How would you fix the Giants?
To answer the OP: No they wouldn't  
Producer : 12/6/2021 1:14 pm : link
Lawrence still has enormous value.

DJ and Barkley have no value.

Enormous Value > No Value

See how that works?

Unless you are throwing in 5 first round picks you can't get Lawrence.
RE: RE: The next good thread  
EricJ : 12/6/2021 1:14 pm : link
In comment 15483952 Batenhorst7 said:
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Hey if Gettleman reads this he should get on the horn with
Jacksonville



oh yeah, I am sure Gettleman spends all day on BBI.. AND takes advice from people posting from their mom's basement.
No  
rsjem1979 : 12/6/2021 1:14 pm : link
Jacksonville has 3 more cost-controlled years to evaluate Lawrence. They are not going to give him away for one year of Daniel Jones and a broken RB who is also nearing the end of his contract and is already among the top 10 highest paid RBs in the NFL.

Just, no.

Make them an offer  
HomerJones45 : 12/6/2021 1:19 pm : link
Kahn is probably the only owner in the League more clueless than our own team.
RE: No  
Producer : 12/6/2021 1:19 pm : link
In comment 15483956 rsjem1979 said:
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Jacksonville has 3 more cost-controlled years to evaluate Lawrence. They are not going to give him away for one year of Daniel Jones and a broken RB who is also nearing the end of his contract and is already among the top 10 highest paid RBs in the NFL.

Just, no.


You're burying the lede. Lawrence is still one of the top 5 young QBs everybody in the league would want to have. Maybe top-3. Jones is destined to be a backup.
Great idea.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/6/2021 1:20 pm : link
Forward this to the Giants ASAP.
RE: Great idea.  
Batenhorst7 : 12/6/2021 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15483968 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Forward this to the Giants ASAP.


Im on it

hey did you ever see Eli walking around Hoboken when he lived there?

Just curious

The famous picture of him looking at his flooded lobby coincided with the beginning of our demise

RE: Why  
murman73 : 12/6/2021 2:14 pm : link
In comment 15483847 snoozy1 said:
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You would give them Daniel Jones and Barkley for Lawrence straight up? What have we seen from Lawrence that makes us think he's worth giving away our QB and RB for? This makes no sense.


Why the heck would Jacksonville give up a potential franchise QB for an injury prone draft bust of a RB and a below average NFL QB?
This fan base  
SleepyOwl : 12/6/2021 2:28 pm : link
Has fallen off a cliff
DG might do it.... at this point lol  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/6/2021 2:29 pm : link
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RE: RE: No  
rsjem1979 : 12/6/2021 2:39 pm : link
In comment 15483966 Producer said:
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In comment 15483956 rsjem1979 said:


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Jacksonville has 3 more cost-controlled years to evaluate Lawrence. They are not going to give him away for one year of Daniel Jones and a broken RB who is also nearing the end of his contract and is already among the top 10 highest paid RBs in the NFL.

Just, no.




You're burying the lede. Lawrence is still one of the top 5 young QBs everybody in the league would want to have. Maybe top-3. Jones is destined to be a backup.


That was more of an omission based on how obvious it should be, but you're correct.
RE: RE: Why  
Scuzzlebutt : 12/6/2021 3:08 pm : link
In comment 15483858 Batenhorst7 said:
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In comment 15483847 snoozy1 said:


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You would give them Daniel Jones and Barkley for Lawrence straight up? What have we seen from Lawrence that makes us think he's worth giving away our QB and RB for? This makes no sense.



DJ has gotten a fair trial here, so has Barkley
Neither has progressed after a stellar rookie year

Did you happen to catch a few Lawrence games in college

He was the 2nd coming of John Elway

Johnny Unitas would struggle at JAX


Let’s be honest… Johnny Unitas would struggle with the Giants too.
Sweeteners  
Thegratefulhead : 12/6/2021 3:14 pm : link
Can we throw in DG & Judge too? Asking for friend.
Why hasn’t he been doing well?  
Carl in CT : 12/6/2021 3:22 pm : link
You think he forgot how to play QB? The most talked about QB in years? It’s cause his skill players keep getting hurt, shitty coach, and guess what no OL. Sound familiar?
No thank you.  
Matt M. : 12/6/2021 3:50 pm : link
I think he is clearly a much more talented prospect. However, I am not giving up any draft picks for another QB who has struggled and in a situation that makes him equally difficult to fully judge. I'd rather sign his predecessor, Minshew, for no picks to fill the role of either stop gap, solid backup, and/or legit competitiion for Jones.
This trade idea is absurd on its face  
eugibs : 12/6/2021 4:41 pm : link
but the legitimately terrifying part is the posters taking it seriously and saying the would NOT make this trade from the Giant's perspective. So the Giants miraculously find a trade partner not only willing to take the two biggest turds in our punch bowl, but also inexplicably decide to just hand us the best qb prospect in years less than a year after taking him first in the draft. What say you Giants fans? "Nah, I'm not sold on Lawrence, give me Minshew to compete with Dan Jones."
RE: This trade idea is absurd on its face  
Matt M. : 12/6/2021 4:45 pm : link
In comment 15484314 eugibs said:
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but the legitimately terrifying part is the posters taking it seriously and saying the would NOT make this trade from the Giant's perspective. So the Giants miraculously find a trade partner not only willing to take the two biggest turds in our punch bowl, but also inexplicably decide to just hand us the best qb prospect in years less than a year after taking him first in the draft. What say you Giants fans? "Nah, I'm not sold on Lawrence, give me Minshew to compete with Dan Jones."
Are you that confident, right now, that Lawrence would come in to THIS FRANCHISE and turn things around? As I stated, I think he is a much more talented QB than Jones (and Minshew). But, without still having an OL and a franchise in tatters, would I deal more picks for him? I don't think so. I would rather make an earnest effort to rebuild the OL and get a pass rush and then reload QB in a year or two. Maybe that's just me.
Another way to put it is that our organization and team on the field  
Matt M. : 12/6/2021 4:47 pm : link
are not a better situation than what Lawrence is dealing with in Jacksonville. So, why would we expect different results here?

I often used to think FMiC was  
Blue92 : 12/6/2021 4:47 pm : link
a sanctimonious prick but we, frankly, could use him in threads like this one.
Also, same reason I don't want to spend one of our precious 1st or 2nd  
Matt M. : 12/6/2021 4:49 pm : link
round picks this year on a QB. Fix the other broken pieces first.
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