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nygiants16 : 12/6/2021 4:45 pm
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Tom Thibodeau says club may make some lineup changes for San Antonio game. Said he still wants to mull things over.

Quick or Rose into the starting lineup?

Thibs go crazy and start Obi with Randle?
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Don't get me wrong I'm happy with the result so far  
Stu11 : 12/7/2021 10:24 pm : link
But got we are horrific on fast breaks. I mean every other team in the league a 2 or 3 on 1 is a dunk or a lay-up. For us it's a horror show.
RE: Don't get me wrong I'm happy with the result so far  
adamg : 12/7/2021 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15486141 Stu11 said:
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But got we are horrific on fast breaks. I mean every other team in the league a 2 or 3 on 1 is a dunk or a lay-up. For us it's a horror show.


I want to say these are growing pains for RJ. But idk. He looks sloppy too often when he's forced to make a play.
Just letting the spurs hang around  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2021 10:31 pm : link
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RE: Don't get me wrong I'm happy with the result so far  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2021 10:34 pm : link
In comment 15486141 Stu11 said:
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But got we are horrific on fast breaks. I mean every other team in the league a 2 or 3 on 1 is a dunk or a lay-up. For us it's a horror show.


Knicks dont have the most athletic players on their team, a lot of them are slow and methodical, not many lobs on fast breaks
Randle the closer  
adamg : 12/7/2021 10:36 pm : link
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Randle played like a star tonight  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2021 10:37 pm : link
Burks and Rj had it going in the first half, so he rebounded and dished..

2nd half needed some of his scoring amd he took over, took what the d gave him..

Great pass to Rj on that play
Clutch 3  
adamg : 12/7/2021 10:38 pm : link
Great game for RJ
RE: Randle played like a star tonight  
adamg : 12/7/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15486154 nygiants16 said:
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Burks and Rj had it going in the first half, so he rebounded and dished..

2nd half needed some of his scoring amd he took over, took what the d gave him..

Great pass to Rj on that play


15/7/8 and a block and a steal
Well it looks like we'll thankfully stop the bleeding  
Stu11 : 12/7/2021 10:39 pm : link
Maybe we should give up playing at MSG this year.
32 for RJ.  
bceagle05 : 12/7/2021 10:40 pm : link
Glorious.
He's unconscious from 3  
adamg : 12/7/2021 10:41 pm : link
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Great win  
adamg : 12/7/2021 10:46 pm : link
Easy win
Good RJ game.  
Mike from SI : 12/7/2021 10:47 pm : link
Obviously he's not always going to be that hot from 3, but we need more performances like this.
does anyone have any theories on Kemba?  
Leg of Theismann : 12/7/2021 11:08 pm : link
as in why he isn't at least coming off the bench for even just SOME minutes? It's weird to me that he went from starting to just zero minutes. I was all for benching him for Burks but I just don't see why you wouldn't put him out there against the other teams bench just to get some buckets.

Do you think Thibs is literally just like "nope, can't play good enough defense to deserve to be on the floor." Is it that simple?

Do you think this is punishment for anything that maybe Thibs and the team are keeping under wraps?

Is there something we don't know about his health that they don't want to showcase because they want to be able to move him in a coming trade they are planning?

I'm down for any and all conspiracy theories you guys can come up with lol

Am I overthinking this?
btw I wasn't able to watch every minute of the game tonight  
Leg of Theismann : 12/7/2021 11:15 pm : link
one question: did it look like we had good energy/intensity for all 48 minutes tonight? Any short stretches of lapse in energy like we typically have (even in wins)?

I've been curious to see how the team would respond after the 3 game losing streak because A LOT of people have specifically been calling out the Knicks for their lack of energy and lazy defense. Was hoping certain guys heard that.
RE: does anyone have any theories on Kemba?  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2021 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15486183 Leg of Theismann said:
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as in why he isn't at least coming off the bench for even just SOME minutes? It's weird to me that he went from starting to just zero minutes. I was all for benching him for Burks but I just don't see why you wouldn't put him out there against the other teams bench just to get some buckets.

Do you think Thibs is literally just like "nope, can't play good enough defense to deserve to be on the floor." Is it that simple?

Do you think this is punishment for anything that maybe Thibs and the team are keeping under wraps?

Is there something we don't know about his health that they don't want to showcase because they want to be able to move him in a coming trade they are planning?

I'm down for any and all conspiracy theories you guys can come up with lol

Am I overthinking this?


I just think its hard to play him, rose and quick off the bench together..

If Thibs went with Quick or Rose to start, i think Kemba would be coming off the bench
RE: btw I wasn't able to watch every minute of the game tonight  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2021 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15486185 Leg of Theismann said:
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one question: did it look like we had good energy/intensity for all 48 minutes tonight? Any short stretches of lapse in energy like we typically have (even in wins)?

I've been curious to see how the team would respond after the 3 game losing streak because A LOT of people have specifically been calling out the Knicks for their lack of energy and lazy defense. Was hoping certain guys heard that.


energy was good all game, no real lapses
Kemba  
Mike from SI : 12/7/2021 11:30 pm : link
I think it's mostly the defense.
21 whole minutes for Evan Fournier tonight.  
bceagle05 : 12/7/2021 11:54 pm : link
Expanded roles for IQ and Burks appear to me coming at Fournier’s expense.
My favorite part about Rjs game last night  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2021 7:37 am : link
was not the 3s, not the 11 for 20, it was thr passes he made when the defense collapsed, he hit shooterd for a few wide open 3s..That is the part of Rjs game that i want to see evolve..

My issue with Rj will always be when he forces, if he misses a good shot, i have no problems, its bad shots i dont like
One of the pods I listen to  
Jan in DC : 12/8/2021 8:01 am : link
mentioned that the +/- with Kemba on the floor is historically bad. Like over -100 bad. Even if it's not a great stat, that sort of thing is hard to ignore.
Glad RJ had a great game  
JohninSC : 12/8/2021 8:15 am : link
Kid was due. Hopefully he can give us some consistency and keep playing like that.
Rj said he has been sick for a couple of weeks  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2021 8:15 am : link
said he hasnt been able to get into the gym as much, wonder if that contributed to his slump? Some thought he was hurt, maybe it was just him sick
Noel out tonight, Taj starting.  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2021 6:42 pm : link
Musical chairs continues at center.
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