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Jake Fromm Georgia Highlights

shadow_spinner0 : 12/6/2021 5:36 pm
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Play #1  
mattlawson : 12/6/2021 5:44 pm : link
Run it over and over again
I don't understand the knocks on his arm strength  
Jay on the Island : 12/6/2021 5:50 pm : link
I am not saying that he's Josh Allen but he has more zip on his throws than many reporters give him credit for IMO.
From Walter Football  
BigBlueJ : 12/6/2021 5:56 pm : link
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Strengths:
Accurate passer
Pocket composure
Excellent decision-maker
Good ball placement
Throws a very catchable ball
Good timing
Shows anticipation
Quality field vision
Able to loft in touch passes
Natural feel; instinctive passer
Leads receivers for more yardage after the catch
Moves eyes through progressions
Good internal clock
Mastered is offense
Intangibles
Intelligent
Hard worker
Good character
Good fit in a west coast offense
Very experienced
Had success against good competition




Weaknesses:
Arm strength limitations
Can't fire fastballs into tight windows
Could struggle to challenge NFL defenses downfield
Not a running threat
Shorter than ideal
Concerning decline in play as a junior
Game manager
Not a play-maker; needs teammates to provide big plays


Jake Fromm
He is a  
BigBlueJ : 12/6/2021 5:57 pm : link
poor man's Daniel Jones.
RE: From Walter Football  
shadow_spinner0 : 12/6/2021 6:04 pm : link
In comment 15484455 BigBlueJ said:
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Weaknesses:
Can't fire fastballs into tight windows
Could struggle to challenge NFL defenses downfield
Not a running threat
Game manager
Not a play-maker; needs teammates to provide big plays

not exactly ideal for a team with tons of offensive injuries, a bad OL and an offensive scheme that doesn't scheme receivers open. Lets see how he does tho.
He’s the perfect WCO backup QB  
Anakim : 12/6/2021 6:22 pm : link
Very accurate, won’t turn the ball over. He won’t win you games, but he won’t lose you games either. He’s the epitome of a game manager.
The irony here is  
SteelGiant : 12/6/2021 6:31 pm : link
He would be a good QB for Jason Garrett offense scheme
I know less than nothing about college ball  
GruningsOnTheHill : 12/6/2021 6:45 pm : link
but I do know that Georgia has one of the top football programs. Looking at these highlights, this kid makes some fantastic throws. Why hasn't he been given a shot in the NFL?
Sy'56 review of Fromm...  
Jimmy Googs : 12/6/2021 6:48 pm : link
Jake Fromm / Georgia / 6’2 – 219
Grade: 76

Summary: Junior entry from Warner Robbins, Georgia. Three-year starter who took over the job in 2017 as a result of an injury to Jacob Eason. Fromm starred, winning the SEC Freshman of the Year Award and never gave up the job afterward. Justin Fields, the Ohio State quarterback who is likely going to be a top 10 pick in 2021, transferred from Georgia because he couldn’t beat Fromm out. Fromm won a ton of games and was a two-year team captain. While his tools won’t impress, he knows how to gain a coach’s trust. He plays within himself, he makes smart decisions, and he knows when to alter his aggression. The issue is a lack of true upside and he just doesn’t seem to have the physical potential to take over a game when necessary. He is likely heading toward backup duty but also likely to get a shot at some point.
Watching that video  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/6/2021 6:59 pm : link
made me remember what a clean pocket looks like. Time after time after time.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/6/2021 7:00 pm : link
I expect nothing from Fromm, but fuck it...I never want to see Glennon behind center ever again.
RE: Watching that video  
Adirondack GMen : 12/6/2021 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15484524 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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made me remember what a clean pocket looks like. Time after time after time.

Clean pocket compliment of #71&79. Andrew Thomas and Isaiah Wilson!
RE: He is a  
mattlawson : 12/6/2021 7:04 pm : link
In comment 15484456 BigBlueJ said:
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poor man's Daniel Jones.


Perfect, cuz we broke.
RE: RE: Watching that video  
mattlawson : 12/6/2021 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15484530 Adirondack GMen said:
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In comment 15484524 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:


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made me remember what a clean pocket looks like. Time after time after time.


Clean pocket compliment of #71&79. Andrew Thomas and Isaiah Wilson!



Sounds like  
Dankbeerman : 12/6/2021 7:19 pm : link
Colt Mccoy
Look ... he’s had 2 weeks in an already broken system so logically  
Spider56 : 12/6/2021 7:20 pm : link
you really can’t expect anything from him ... BUT in the eyes of the eternal optimist ...

except for being an inch shorter, his scouting report reads exactly like that of Mac Jones... the film shows accuracy at 50+ yards in the air, he won 36 of the 43 games he played at Georgia with 78 TDs and only 18 interceptions on nearly 1000 attempts. He’s played at the highest level and cannot do any worse that what we’ve seen in blue this year. The Jests had their 1 game wonder and maybe the Jints can too.
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RE: I know less than nothing about college ball  
shadow_spinner0 : 12/6/2021 7:47 pm : link
In comment 15484512 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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but I do know that Georgia has one of the top football programs. Looking at these highlights, this kid makes some fantastic throws. Why hasn't he been given a shot in the NFL?


He makes good throws but when people watch game film, they didn't see elite arm talent. He was also helped by the fact he had a great OL (Giants own Andrew Thomas and Isiah Wilson) and a terrific run game, especially that 2017 team with Chubb, Michel and Swift. From didn't lead them to a title game, he didn't prevent them either. I say give him a shot but don't hold your breath for him. Hopefully he can show enough to just take us through the season with a healthy QB.
What you DO notice  
Dave on the UWS : 12/6/2021 8:24 pm : link
is excellent accuracy and a quick release.
He reminds me of Montana and Kurt Warner  
Batenhorst7 : 12/7/2021 5:53 am : link
Great Footwork and balance

Moves well in the pocket

Throws a well placed and extremely catchable ball

puts air under the ball thus the arm strength criticism

He looks better on film than Jones and Glennon for sure and I
realize its a highlight reel

no one expected anything from Warner and Montana either coming out of college

He should start Sunday for sure
Im amazed he fell in our laps for Zero  
Batenhorst7 : 12/7/2021 5:55 am : link
Good Grief

Daniel Jones does not have this kids intangibles
RE: He reminds me of Montana and Kurt Warner  
Giantology : 12/7/2021 5:57 am : link
In comment 15484892 Batenhorst7 said:
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Great Footwork and balance



You are out of your fucking mind.
It's a good highlight film, but when have you ever seen a bad  
Ira : 12/7/2021 6:06 am : link
highlight film?
RE: RE: He reminds me of Montana and Kurt Warner  
Batenhorst7 : 12/7/2021 6:09 am : link
In comment 15484894 Giantology said:
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Great Footwork and balance





You are out of your fucking mind.


He reminds me of their style of play. Not saying he should be fitted for the gold jacket just yet.

Both guys were the greatest game managers of all time
We yanked him off a practice squad  
AnnapolisMike : 12/7/2021 6:58 am : link
The best we maybe can hope for is a good backup QB for a change.
Yes it was a highlight reel but the facts are facts.  
Spider56 : 12/7/2021 8:40 am : link
He’s always been a winner (played in the LL World Series), excelled against the highest level of college football competition, and was the reason Justin Fields went to Ohio St. He’s probably better than anyone coming out this year ... so at least give him a chance.
Reminds me of  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2021 8:41 am : link
Danny Wuerfful
quote from an "anonymous NFL exec""  
Victor in CT : 12/7/2021 9:25 am : link
“We did a lot of work on him,” one NFL personnel executive told FanSided of Fromm, on the condition of anonymity to speak freely about a player on another team. “And, honestly, at best, he’s just a guy.

“He doesn’t have a lot of arm strength, he isn’t mobile, he’s just not an NFL quarterback.”

some more positive comments too, but there's a reason he lasted til the 5th round in a QB starved league.
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We'll...  
Brown_Hornet : 12/7/2021 9:25 am : link
...get to see how he plays with defenders in his face.

Also, he can hit those small windows at the NCAA level...they close quicker in the NFL.

If he can play a Heinicke role (very similar college bios), the Giants can address other needs in the draft and FA allowing them to push QB decisions to 2023.
RE: We'll...  
rnargi : 12/7/2021 9:39 am : link
In comment 15485057 Brown_Hornet said:
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...get to see how he plays with defenders in his face.

Also, he can hit those small windows at the NCAA level...they close quicker in the NFL.

If he can play a Heinicke role (very similar college bios), the Giants can address other needs in the draft and FA allowing them to push QB decisions to 2023.


In those highlights, I saw three blitz beaters and one legit pressure on him. Everything else he had time to get a cup of coffee and a pedicure in the pocket. Also, as you point out, tight windows in the endzone in college are out of bounds in the pros. At least 5 of those completions were one foot in with no chance for the second. That does not translate to the NFL, those are incomplete passes. I think this is another example of when everything is perfect, he can be good. Behind our line, this statue will be buried.
Full. Bloom. Love.  
Greg from LI : 12/7/2021 9:49 am : link
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Brown_Hornet : 12/7/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15485077 rnargi said:
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...get to see how he plays with defenders in his face.

Also, he can hit those small windows at the NCAA level...they close quicker in the NFL.

If he can play a Heinicke role (very similar college bios), the Giants can address other needs in the draft and FA allowing them to push QB decisions to 2023.



In those highlights, I saw three blitz beaters and one legit pressure on him. Everything else he had time to get a cup of coffee and a pedicure in the pocket. Also, as you point out, tight windows in the endzone in college are out of bounds in the pros. At least 5 of those completions were one foot in with no chance for the second. That does not translate to the NFL, those are incomplete passes. I think this is another example of when everything is perfect, he can be good. Behind our line, this statue will be buried.
So, if we build a better line and get him some weapons....
...you're saying there's a chance~

That link Victor posted is worth reading  
cosmicj : 12/7/2021 10:02 am : link
Watching Fromm will be interesting, maybe the only reason to watch the game v the Chargers.
There's a show on Netflix  
Giantophile : 12/7/2021 10:07 am : link
Called QB1 that follows 3 of the top HS QB prospects in the country. He's one of them, seemed like a good kid. Southern jock type but easy to root for. Glad he's getting the nod over Glennon
You guy's really want this guy over Glennon?  
Debaser : 12/7/2021 11:03 am : link
The guy got knocked out and finished the game. He didn't look that bad against Cowboys at all. After Gollday got hurt he no one but WR activated from the practice squad.

This guy is not an NFL QB due to lack of arm talent. It might be like a pick 6 on the first throw if not just a poor man's colt mccoy.
Trying to pick a QB in the Draft has proven near impossible  
Batenhorst7 : 12/7/2021 12:02 pm : link
Unless it was John Elway or Joe Borrow there are hits and misses constantly

You just cannot tell until the guy gets a shot

The knock on Joe Montana was he did not have a rocket arm

Only Belichek liked Jones coming out of Alabama

Fromm will get his moment to shine, and if he lights it up there will be a lot of posters in hiding on here
RE: Trying to pick a QB in the Draft has proven near impossible  
Debaser : 12/7/2021 12:26 pm : link
In comment 15485324 Batenhorst7 said:
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Unless it was John Elway or Joe Borrow there are hits and misses constantly

You just cannot tell until the guy gets a shot

The knock on Joe Montana was he did not have a rocket arm

Only Belichek liked Jones coming out of Alabama

Fromm will get his moment to shine, and if he lights it up there will be a lot of posters in hiding on here


Ok whatever we'll see .. .I'll be rooting like hell for the dude . He is a giant and anybody but Jones at this point including Glennon who I am convinced won't look much better even if he does clear concussion protocol.
RE: RE: Trying to pick a QB in the Draft has proven near impossible  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/7/2021 12:28 pm : link
In comment 15485361 Debaser said:
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Unless it was John Elway or Joe Borrow there are hits and misses constantly

You just cannot tell until the guy gets a shot

The knock on Joe Montana was he did not have a rocket arm

Only Belichek liked Jones coming out of Alabama

Fromm will get his moment to shine, and if he lights it up there will be a lot of posters in hiding on here



Ok whatever we'll see .. .I'll be rooting like hell for the dude . He is a giant and anybody but Jones at this point including Glennon who I am convinced won't look much better even if he does clear concussion protocol.


Glad that only took 1 game.
RE: RE: RE: Trying to pick a QB in the Draft has proven near impossible  
Debaser : 12/7/2021 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15485367 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Unless it was John Elway or Joe Borrow there are hits and misses constantly

You just cannot tell until the guy gets a shot

The knock on Joe Montana was he did not have a rocket arm

Only Belichek liked Jones coming out of Alabama

Fromm will get his moment to shine, and if he lights it up there will be a lot of posters in hiding on here



Ok whatever we'll see .. .I'll be rooting like hell for the dude . He is a giant and anybody but Jones at this point including Glennon who I am convinced won't look much better even if he does clear concussion protocol.



Glad that only took 1 game.


What does that mean?
RE: Trying to pick a QB in the Draft has proven near impossible  
Debaser : 12/7/2021 3:00 pm : link
In comment 15485324 Batenhorst7 said:
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Unless it was John Elway or Joe Borrow there are hits and misses constantly

You just cannot tell until the guy gets a shot

The knock on Joe Montana was he did not have a rocket arm

Only Belichek liked Jones coming out of Alabama

Fromm will get his moment to shine, and if he lights it up there will be a lot of posters in hiding on here


Joe Montana? All these guys that you guys are saying Montana Brady. They all had great coaches with great systems. Not take anything away from them but, all of those things came together , and they simply got better. Also Montana was drafted 80 somthing overall in the 3rd round not 5th round.

Having said that I would like to see Fromm next week. It would be too hard for Glennon to comeback after concussion and play well so quick; if he is capable of playing well. Or maybe put Glennon in late in the game if Fromm is stinking up the place.
noodle arm, low mobility, and debatable decision making  
islander1 : 12/7/2021 3:06 pm : link
don't get excited folks...I'll be shocked if he's any better than Glennon.

Maybe for a couple games, no tape on him since Georgia.
We are 4-8, out of any playoff thinking and the two QBs ahead of him  
Jimmy Googs : 12/7/2021 3:10 pm : link
on the depth chat are hurt. So who cares that he isn't likely going to turn into the next Tom Brady?

Fromm is all there is right now...

If you read the Fromm Q&A, and watched the tape on him  
Batenhorst7 : 12/7/2021 3:26 pm : link
At this point there is nothing not to like about the guy

Warner was bagging groceries just before he got his shot due to injuries.

Montana was terrific in college but not well regarded in the draft. dont remember how Joe got his 1st start

The key wording I saw and felt from my own view was-
"throws a catchable ball"

Sounds easy but very hard to do in the NFL- both Montana and Warner threw catchable balls

In todays NFL, Rodgers throws a very catchable ball.

Its all all about footwork, throwing on the run, and situational awareness. Jones and Glennon struggle with all those attributes.

The bazooka arm is not as important as the above

Parcells famously said- "QB is 90% between the ears"
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