Against a fairly new Ravens team and I was sitting in section 330 or the like. I was not prepared at all for the amount of cold and wind those seats presented that day in December. It was miserable, and I think we lost w/Dave Brown at the helm.
It says the pats took off well over a minute off the clock between 2nd and third down. Says ran 2nd down play at 1:50. And 3rd down not until 0:44. Enabling them to knee to end game. Huh?
It says the pats took off well over a minute off the clock between 2nd and third down. Says ran 2nd down play at 1:50. And 3rd down not until 0:44. Enabling them to knee to end game. Huh?
Yeah, that just happened. Just one more call that goes the Patriots way, no biggie.
It says the pats took off well over a minute off the clock between 2nd and third down. Says ran 2nd down play at 1:50. And 3rd down not until 0:44. Enabling them to knee to end game. Huh?
Yeah, that just happened. Just one more call that goes the Patriots way, no biggie.
Stop, my god.. Yes it did happen because the bills had an injured player and no timeouts. The clock is stopped for player to get off the field then clock gets set to time it was at when the player was injured and play clock reset to 40 seconds. They both restart on the whistle. TV ref for MNF agreed with the way it was handled.
So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
It says the pats took off well over a minute off the clock between 2nd and third down. Says ran 2nd down play at 1:50. And 3rd down not until 0:44. Enabling them to knee to end game. Huh?
Yeah, that just happened. Just one more call that goes the Patriots way, no biggie.
Stop, my god.. Yes it did happen because the bills had an injured player and no timeouts. The clock is stopped for player to get off the field then clock gets set to time it was at when the player was injured and play clock reset to 40 seconds. They both restart on the whistle. TV ref for MNF agreed with the way it was handled.
We've never talked before, so stop what, exactly?
Was watching it on Peyton & Eli and they just don't care to address these things.
Also, I don't care about this explanation, I mean if this is the rule ok, it was a fair result today. But it is a bullshit rule and should be changed, you should never be allowed to chew more than 40 seconds between plays, especially in the last 2 minutes of the game. Sad ending.
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
Exactly.
The league sees it as a FLOP to get an extra clock stoppage.
I get it, and it's important not to let this happen.
But the rule is just plain stupid, the play ended at 1:45, get the clock back at 1:45 and run the 40 second playclock, this way no one gets rewarded in a very dumb rule. This would be the right way to do it.
RE: So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
It’s a good rule. There needs to be some sort of disincentive, otherwise teams would fake injuries in order to 1) get a “free” TO to talk strategy during the injury and/or 2) give a breather to gut rest of the unit on the field.
RE: RE: So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
It’s a good rule. There needs to be some sort of disincentive, otherwise teams would fake injuries in order to 1) get a “free” TO to talk strategy during the injury and/or 2) give a breather to gut rest of the unit on the field.
Good points, I still don't like the rule but it is not a dumb rule as I thought. Just an anticlimactic way to end the game, was hoping to see a hail mary attempt in that wind.
RE: RE: RE: So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
It’s a good rule. There needs to be some sort of disincentive, otherwise teams would fake injuries in order to 1) get a “free” TO to talk strategy during the injury and/or 2) give a breather to gut rest of the unit on the field.
Good points, I still don't like the rule but it is not a dumb rule as I thought. Just an anticlimactic way to end the game, was hoping to see a hail mary attempt in that wind.
on last year with COVID opt outs were not paying attention.
All Bill needed was a decent game manager at QB. Wasn’t about Covid. We saw what he did with Matt Cassel in the 11-5 no Brady season. We knew he could do this. He’s truly the greatest coach ever.
RE: RE: RE: So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
Exactly.
The league sees it as a FLOP to get an extra clock stoppage.
But if the clock rewinds when the injured player is dealt with there’s no harm no foul. Rule makes no sense at all - I get a potential point about giving defense a ‘breather’ but this situation was not that.
Buffalo was robbed of 20 seconds with the ball at midfield. Probably does nothing with it but the probability was >20%
Bigger picture Why is the bills running game still so bad every year (forget the Allen part - the moss / singletary / Breida disaster)?
That game sorta reminded me of a Parcells Giants team
Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Yeah, Mac Jones looked amazing last night.
1st place schedule. Four of their losses were: Steelers, Titans (with Henry), Colts and Pats. The one loss they would like to have back is the Jags, I am sure.
Bills are a dangerous team. Their average margin in their wins is 26 points. With Allen and those wideouts, they are the kind of team that can get hot and steamroll through the playoffs- if they can get there. They have the Bucs next and another date with the Pats along with Jets, Falcons and Panthers.
RE: So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
RE: RE: So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
The Giants were basically the team that forced this rule when they had two players fall "injured" on a long drive approaching the EZ...
Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Yeah, Mac Jones looked amazing last night.
LOL. Payton was a riot at the end of the broadcast. Praises Mac Jones for his great handoffs, and said he was really "sticking the ball in there" (meaning the RB's gut)
Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Yeah, Mac Jones looked amazing last night.
LOL. Payton was a riot at the end of the broadcast. Praises Mac Jones for his great handoffs, and said he was really "sticking the ball in there" (meaning the RB's gut)
Thank you for telling us what he meant (most of us aren't as dumb as you).
it aint the playcalling as much as just knowing how to get your players to do their best and knowing what that best is, when its the best time to change and how.
It's like belichick is playing madden on Ps2 and just knows how to execute about 20 different plays on offense and defense involving 3-4-5 different formations. They can't stop the run? I'll fucking keep doing it until they stop it and if they stop it i will pivot to another methodology and win that way. LAst year he couldn't because he has a roster of players ranked in the 50 and 60s Now he's got a bunch of 702 and 80s and he's going to fuck up the NFL once again.
No one will beat the Pats in January up there in NE. Get ready for another appearance from them in the super bowl.
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
..it reminds me of when the defense commits a penalty and the clock stops, this happened back in our opener versus Dallas years back.
OBJ caught a first down from Eli that should have iced the game, but he was also personal fouled on the play (half distance to goal) BUT the play clock was stopped until the next snap.
So although Dallas gave up yardage, they most importantly stopped the clock.
Not sure if that rule was changed.
Giants then ended up bungling the goal line offense as we all remember...........
RE: RE: RE: So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
Exactly this. It's a horrible rule. Force the team to take the player off the field for at least the next play. If you really wanted to make sure it wasn't abused, make it for the rest of the set of downs OR one play. Wind the clock as soon as the injured touches the white boundary. There would be no benefit to the defense other than a few seconds rest, but chances are they'd be replacing a player with someone who is worse than whoever was on the field. So probably a net negative.
RE: RE: RE: So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
Obviously you wouldn't use a key player to manipulate the clock in this scenario; it would be a rotational piece.
And stopping the clock long enough for a player to "limp" off the field would effectively be the same as a timeout.
You guys do watch football, right?
RE: RE: RE: RE: So a team is penalized for its player getting hurt??
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
Obviously you wouldn't use a key player to manipulate the clock in this scenario; it would be a rotational piece.
And stopping the clock long enough for a player to "limp" off the field would effectively be the same as a timeout.
You guys do watch football, right?
How's it like a timeout when both the play clock and game clock are restarted?
When you have a timeout, the play clock of course starts, but the game clock doesn't start until the play starts.
That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
Obviously you wouldn't use a key player to manipulate the clock in this scenario; it would be a rotational piece.
And stopping the clock long enough for a player to "limp" off the field would effectively be the same as a timeout.
You guys do watch football, right?
How's it like a timeout when both the play clock and game clock are restarted?
When you have a timeout, the play clock of course starts, but the game clock doesn't start until the play starts.
Because they're both stopped for the entirety of the "injury."
Championship game vs Washington comes to mind.
I feel like I’ve seen some of that this weekend and no flags
Sudden change?
Long way to go.
But how ironic is it that the Chiefs are now a better defensive team than they are on offensive team...??
8 7 now.
They've both scored a TD in the first quarter.
Giants couldn't score one all game against the friggin Dolphins in perfect Miami conditions.
The Pats had two guys back for the return. The problem was Harry was one of them.
But let's be honest - it really was a bad luck bounce...
I was thinking the same.
I was also thinking that it must be nice to have a non-dysfunctional team.
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I would have used my timeouts to extend the first quarter with the wind.
I was thinking the same.
I was also thinking that it must be nice to have a non-dysfunctional team.
Same here
I live north of Baltimore. It's pretty windy here too. But I'm sure it's worse where you are.
I hate to admit it too, we would be losing 3 yards a play if we had to face either of these Bills/Pats teams in this environment.
Probably because 90% of the time we barely gain a yard.
yeah I was thinking the same thing. Dominating the line
And the wind is blowing hard here in northern Dutchess County but I hear it's worse further upstate.
We are going tell you what we are going to do now try and stop us.
Nope, the threat of a pass has to be maintained. Watch Jones throw a TD here on the 2nd play of 4th..
Mac Jones has 1 pass attempt all game so far.
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Nope, the threat of a pass has to be maintained. Watch Jones throw a TD here on the 2nd play of 4th..
Jones is the hood ornament on this offense
The winds are insane and the Bills have been giving up runs up the middle all night.
Not looking good for the Bills.
haha - only in this case I was hoping it would be good
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all the Giants fans who don’t understand the importance of the offensive line …. Behold the Patriots
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all the Giants fans who don’t understand the importance of the offensive line …. Behold the Patriots
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Agree 1000%
But that's all Bill..
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all the Giants fans who don’t understand the importance of the offensive line …. Behold the Patriots
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all of the Giant fans who don’t understand the importance of talented skill players who have the physical skills to improvise . . . Behold Josh Allen
And yet, they still lost
🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, that just happened. Just one more call that goes the Patriots way, no biggie.
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all the Giants fans who don’t understand the importance of the offensive line …. Behold the Patriots
+1.
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all of the Giant fans who don’t understand the importance of talented skill players who have the physical skills to improvise . . . Behold Josh Allen
Behold..the QB who couldn't get the ball in the endzone. Where have I seen that before?
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It says the pats took off well over a minute off the clock between 2nd and third down. Says ran 2nd down play at 1:50. And 3rd down not until 0:44. Enabling them to knee to end game. Huh?
Yeah, that just happened. Just one more call that goes the Patriots way, no biggie.
Stop, my god.. Yes it did happen because the bills had an injured player and no timeouts. The clock is stopped for player to get off the field then clock gets set to time it was at when the player was injured and play clock reset to 40 seconds. They both restart on the whistle. TV ref for MNF agreed with the way it was handled.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
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It says the pats took off well over a minute off the clock between 2nd and third down. Says ran 2nd down play at 1:50. And 3rd down not until 0:44. Enabling them to knee to end game. Huh?
Yeah, that just happened. Just one more call that goes the Patriots way, no biggie.
Stop, my god.. Yes it did happen because the bills had an injured player and no timeouts. The clock is stopped for player to get off the field then clock gets set to time it was at when the player was injured and play clock reset to 40 seconds. They both restart on the whistle. TV ref for MNF agreed with the way it was handled.
We've never talked before, so stop what, exactly?
Was watching it on Peyton & Eli and they just don't care to address these things.
Also, I don't care about this explanation, I mean if this is the rule ok, it was a fair result today. But it is a bullshit rule and should be changed, you should never be allowed to chew more than 40 seconds between plays, especially in the last 2 minutes of the game. Sad ending.
Right now, he's probably the leader for DPOTY.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
Exactly.
Right now, he's probably the leader for DPOTY.
He's played great and is certainly a candidate, but I do feel like right now it's TJ Watt's to loose, the Steelers won multiple games because of him.
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
Exactly.
The league sees it as a FLOP to get an extra clock stoppage.
And let the fellating the Patriots in NE begin.
Won’t be watching any local news for a couple of weeks.
Thanks Buffalo.
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
Exactly.
The league sees it as a FLOP to get an extra clock stoppage.
I get it, and it's important not to let this happen.
But the rule is just plain stupid, the play ended at 1:45, get the clock back at 1:45 and run the 40 second playclock, this way no one gets rewarded in a very dumb rule. This would be the right way to do it.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
It’s a good rule. There needs to be some sort of disincentive, otherwise teams would fake injuries in order to 1) get a “free” TO to talk strategy during the injury and/or 2) give a breather to gut rest of the unit on the field.
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
It’s a good rule. There needs to be some sort of disincentive, otherwise teams would fake injuries in order to 1) get a “free” TO to talk strategy during the injury and/or 2) give a breather to gut rest of the unit on the field.
Good points, I still don't like the rule but it is not a dumb rule as I thought. Just an anticlimactic way to end the game, was hoping to see a hail mary attempt in that wind.
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
It’s a good rule. There needs to be some sort of disincentive, otherwise teams would fake injuries in order to 1) get a “free” TO to talk strategy during the injury and/or 2) give a breather to gut rest of the unit on the field.
Good points, I still don't like the rule but it is not a dumb rule as I thought. Just an anticlimactic way to end the game, was hoping to see a hail mary attempt in that wind.
agree, very anticlimactic
All Bill needed was a decent game manager at QB. Wasn’t about Covid. We saw what he did with Matt Cassel in the 11-5 no Brady season. We knew he could do this. He’s truly the greatest coach ever.
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
Exactly.
The league sees it as a FLOP to get an extra clock stoppage.
But if the clock rewinds when the injured player is dealt with there’s no harm no foul. Rule makes no sense at all - I get a potential point about giving defense a ‘breather’ but this situation was not that.
Buffalo was robbed of 20 seconds with the ball at midfield. Probably does nothing with it but the probability was >20%
Bigger picture Why is the bills running game still so bad every year (forget the Allen part - the moss / singletary / Breida disaster)?
going on the road to some cold climate, with hostile fans, and somehow pulling out a victory.
A real confidence boost to the team.
But that was so very long ago.
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
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Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Yeah, Mac Jones looked amazing last night.
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all the Giants fans who don’t understand the importance of the offensive line …. Behold the Patriots
+1.
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all of the Giant fans who don’t understand the importance of talented skill players who have the physical skills to improvise . . . Behold Josh Allen
Behold..the QB who couldn't get the ball in the endzone. Where have I seen that before?
DJ has 7 losses with a bottom 5 nfl roster. Allen has 5 losses with a team that went to the conference championship. What’s the big deal?
is as good as the Giants'?
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Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Yeah, Mac Jones looked amazing last night.
Bills are a dangerous team. Their average margin in their wins is 26 points. With Allen and those wideouts, they are the kind of team that can get hot and steamroll through the playoffs- if they can get there. They have the Bucs next and another date with the Pats along with Jets, Falcons and Panthers.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
The Giants were basically the team that forced this rule when they had two players fall "injured" on a long drive approaching the EZ...
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Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Yeah, Mac Jones looked amazing last night.
Those handoffs!
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Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Yeah, Mac Jones looked amazing last night.
LOL. Payton was a riot at the end of the broadcast. Praises Mac Jones for his great handoffs, and said he was really "sticking the ball in there" (meaning the RB's gut)
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Does not look close to the team we saw the first half of this season
I would put them down as most disappointing team of the season. Really thought they would be serious contenders for best in the AFC.
And who remembers a year ago, when so many folk concluded that the Pats owed it all to Tom Brady? Belichick is a frickin' genius. We could have had Mac Jones instead of trading down, quarterback competition, but I'm sure we would have screwed up his development with our OLine.
Yeah, Mac Jones looked amazing last night.
LOL. Payton was a riot at the end of the broadcast. Praises Mac Jones for his great handoffs, and said he was really "sticking the ball in there" (meaning the RB's gut)
Thank you for telling us what he meant (most of us aren't as dumb as you).
It's like belichick is playing madden on Ps2 and just knows how to execute about 20 different plays on offense and defense involving 3-4-5 different formations. They can't stop the run? I'll fucking keep doing it until they stop it and if they stop it i will pivot to another methodology and win that way. LAst year he couldn't because he has a roster of players ranked in the 50 and 60s Now he's got a bunch of 702 and 80s and he's going to fuck up the NFL once again.
No one will beat the Pats in January up there in NE. Get ready for another appearance from them in the super bowl.
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
OBJ caught a first down from Eli that should have iced the game, but he was also personal fouled on the play (half distance to goal) BUT the play clock was stopped until the next snap.
So although Dallas gave up yardage, they most importantly stopped the clock.
Not sure if that rule was changed.
Giants then ended up bungling the goal line offense as we all remember...........
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In comment 15484844 MetsAreBack said:
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
Exactly this. It's a horrible rule. Force the team to take the player off the field for at least the next play. If you really wanted to make sure it wasn't abused, make it for the rest of the set of downs OR one play. Wind the clock as soon as the injured touches the white boundary. There would be no benefit to the defense other than a few seconds rest, but chances are they'd be replacing a player with someone who is worse than whoever was on the field. So probably a net negative.
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In comment 15484844 MetsAreBack said:
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
Obviously you wouldn't use a key player to manipulate the clock in this scenario; it would be a rotational piece.
And stopping the clock long enough for a player to "limp" off the field would effectively be the same as a timeout.
You guys do watch football, right?
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In comment 15485073 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15484844 MetsAreBack said:
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
Obviously you wouldn't use a key player to manipulate the clock in this scenario; it would be a rotational piece.
And stopping the clock long enough for a player to "limp" off the field would effectively be the same as a timeout.
You guys do watch football, right?
How's it like a timeout when both the play clock and game clock are restarted?
When you have a timeout, the play clock of course starts, but the game clock doesn't start until the play starts.
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By belichick. Start to finish brilliant game.
agree
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In comment 15485227 BillKo said:
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In comment 15485073 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15484844 MetsAreBack said:
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That’s actually a fucking rule? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why wouldn’t the clock simply stop on the injury and wind when he’s helped off the field? Absurd on every level.
You have to consider the way this could be manipulated if this wasn't the rule: if you're out of timeouts and trailing late in the game, you can have a player get banged up on every play to stop the clock.
But the player has to leave the field for one play.
And yes you're stopping the clock, but it's not like a timeout. Once the player leaves the field, the playclock would continue and time continues to drain.
I think it's a bad rule given a player could really be hurt.
Using remaining TO's is sufficient for an injury within 2 minutes IMO.
Obviously you wouldn't use a key player to manipulate the clock in this scenario; it would be a rotational piece.
And stopping the clock long enough for a player to "limp" off the field would effectively be the same as a timeout.
You guys do watch football, right?
How's it like a timeout when both the play clock and game clock are restarted?
When you have a timeout, the play clock of course starts, but the game clock doesn't start until the play starts.
Because they're both stopped for the entirety of the "injury."
Is this really difficult to understand?