Judge has had some bad miss steps as a first time Head Coach, but I think he has a shot at being successful...probably not here.
He's been devoted to Players as a Coach who Loves Coaching... He's over invested in the players he has. He has evaluated his roster with a belief and a commitment to developing His Guys. Judge has had substantial input to player evaluation, and he's done a lousy job of it. This is his hard lesson going forward... this team is NO PLACE, and it needs a teardown. He might NOW be just the right guy for the Job, because now he should know his mistakes.
They need to move on....and he will get another shot.
This is truly one of the more bizarre posts.
This is truly one of the more bizarre posts.
Pro tip: read the fucking post before you respond.
Any rookie head coach is not going to have the cash in the bank to call shots that might differ from what management thinks is the correct path. And a rookie head coach won't know initially what he needs to be successful.
They need a guy who has built teams before, quite honest.
Yet the Giants got all hot to trot because BB told them Judge had the makings of a Varsity Quaterback. Which I understand if BB was adamant about it, the choice makes sense. But after the prior two disasters walking out the door with their tail between their legs, I didn’t want to roll the dice again. I wanted someone that had a proven track record that Mara wouldn’t feel the need to stick his nose in their business.
I firmly believe that Mara is getting nosie with football operations after years of suck. And with each passing year of losing he sticks that beak in further and further. We have to get him away from the team and back riding horses somewhere out of state.
This team needs to go out and talk a proven commodity in to coming and fixing the organization. With a promise of full control. Otherwise we are going to be stuck in this viscous cycle for years and years.
Any rookie head coach is not going to have the cash in the bank to call shots that might differ from what management thinks is the correct path. And a rookie head coach won't know initially what he needs to be successful.
They need a guy who has built teams before, quite honest.
Sorry, didn’t read your post prior to mine. But you summed up my thoughts nicely. Just don’t give us a mike smith or John fox please.
I am starting to think Garrett was the only thing keeping this clown from looking like a total joker this whole time.
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and if we just give him a few more years to learn from more mistakes, he'll be fine.
This is truly one of the more bizarre posts.
Pro tip: read the fucking post before you respond.
But that 5 min stretch culminating in the 3 and 33 was a huge red flag. The word embarrassing gets thrown around alot, that, IMO was embarrassing. Not because of the poor play, which is a given, but the lack of structure, getting plays in, getting to the line, subbing out personnel groups when time didnt afford us that luxury, a timeout to salvage a lost drive. It was like a chinese fire drill and its his job, even when the team is playing like trash, to ensure things dont spiral into an absolute clusterfuck. And thats what it became. As someone who wants to see him succeed, that was really disappointing. Cuz thats squarely on him. At the 5 min mark, youre in the 2 minute offense. Urgency. Not panic, but urgency. Purpose. And we're treating it like its mid second quarter in a 10-7 game. Whether the guys perform is on them, but it was apparent that he just either never pushed the button to make it happen, or, worse, he pushed it and it didnt.
Very disappointing and indefensible.
To me, he hasn't shown anything this year that makes me think he's an NFL coach.
I think he should be a goner along with Gettleman so that the next GM can start fresh but not sure that is how ownership sees it.
Hypothetically, who are some of the coaches out there that would be a great pick to replace him? I'm thinking it would be an offensive coach if they did make the move, although I really like Matt Eberflus.
But that 5 min stretch culminating in the 3 and 33 was a huge red flag. The word embarrassing gets thrown around alot, that, IMO was embarrassing. Not because of the poor play, which is a given, but the lack of structure, getting plays in, getting to the line, subbing out personnel groups when time didnt afford us that luxury, a timeout to salvage a lost drive. It was like a chinese fire drill and its his job, even when the team is playing like trash, to ensure things dont spiral into an absolute clusterfuck. And thats what it became. As someone who wants to see him succeed, that was really disappointing. Cuz thats squarely on him. At the 5 min mark, youre in the 2 minute offense. Urgency. Not panic, but urgency. Purpose. And we're treating it like its mid second quarter in a 10-7 game. Whether the guys perform is on them, but it was apparent that he just either never pushed the button to make it happen, or, worse, he pushed it and it didnt.
Very disappointing and indefensible.
He lost me in the first game when he threw the challenge flag that got us a penalty. So unprofessional.
We need someone who will evaluate, cut, resign, and do all the things necessary to build the talent and along with doing the fundamental stuff.
We need someone who will evaluate, cut, resign, and do all the things necessary to build the talent and along with doing the fundamental stuff.
Say goodbye. Sorry Mrs. Judge, but nice try as the OP
Yet the Giants got all hot to trot because BB told them Judge had the makings of a Varsity Quaterback. Which I understand if BB was adamant about it, the choice makes sense. But after the prior two disasters walking out the door with their tail between their legs, I didn’t want to roll the dice again. I wanted someone that had a proven track record that Mara wouldn’t feel the need to stick his nose in their business.
I firmly believe that Mara is getting nosie with football operations after years of suck. And with each passing year of losing he sticks that beak in further and further. We have to get him away from the team and back riding horses somewhere out of state.
This team needs to go out and talk a proven commodity in to coming and fixing the organization. With a promise of full control. Otherwise we are going to be stuck in this viscous cycle for years and years.
Bradshaw- really good post. At this point, the Giants need to hire a safe GM and Mara needs to let go.
That Carl Banks interview where he was sucking up to Pioli was interesting because Banks knows about what is going on inside the Giants org and his behavior reeks of wanting to be on the side of the next GM. I think all the arrows are pointing to Pioli. So you may get your wish.
That said, the game management errors have nothing to do with the quality of the players on the roster. Further, the right way to initiate a rebuild is by bringing in a new GM and head coach at the same time. Judge has not earned the right to interrupt that through the quality of his coaching. If he's collateral damage, so be it.